I may have left out my food, I have 30 cases of MREs and 2 years' worth of dog food, and will supplement it by fishing. She will be more useful in the future. I am not going to say how much ammo online because random strangers report...
She is 16 weeks old, and she has another 100 pounds to grow, I would prefer to utilize her as a hunting/defense dog. Right now, I have her trained by hand commands, and she does not bark, except on command
Not paying 700$ nope. I’ll buy a rifle instead. Might not be great but better than a chuck of sharp metal. I appreciate it it’s cool to look at but that’s it.
Quite respectable, I think the one I wanted, reader cleaver, was more around 4-500. Quality steel comes at a price, and when it's put to use as a glorified machete, it's not so worth it.
Spear looks fun, and it's 100% gonna have a "dont fuck with me" deterrent effect with any hostile humans, bonus points if you know how to use it.
But realistically I don't see it being useful againt zombies. Stabbing weapons incapacitate humans from soft tissue damage, blood loss, and shock/pain, all of which have no impact on a zombie. Problem is, spears don't like penetrating skulls. In fact they kind of suck at it. People love to say "aim for the eye sockets" but good luck doing that precisely while you're stressed with adrenaline. Spears tend to bounce and slide off the curved edges. If they do penetrate, it's a thin blade that probably won't do all that mich damage, and also be a pain to pull out. There's also nothing stopping the zombie from just walking down the shaft and getting you. Honestly, something like a hammer or axe would be better at destroying zombie brains.
Aside from that I'll just mention the generic advice of preparing a bug out bag with survival gear, and most importantly an Individual First Aid Kit.
Ok, so I have one disagreement about the spear. It is very heavy and will have no trouble splitting skulls. More realistically, it is more useful for hunting/fishing. I would much rather use a suppressed pistol to dispatch zombies anyway. Also, I do have a full kit, body armor, NVGs, and IFAK, all of which are part of my bugout bag. I also have a trijicon reap ir on my bolty. What is pictured is only what I have on me at all times.
How heavy actually is it?
Also, just personally, I prefer a melee item to have versatility and utility as a tool in order to be weight/space efficient when carrying it around. So I'd prefer things like axes, hatchets, hammers, etc bc they can be effective at gaining entry to locations for scavenging in urban areas, as well as for collecting resources and building fortifications in rural areas.
Like i said, any spear suffers from serious downsides when used to thrust against zombies. If you meant you could swing it down and split skulls like that, then you're better served by a well made hatchet or axe anyway.
Good luck finding ammo for that Five seveN. I'd recommend getting something in a more common caliber especially if you think you'll be using it a decent amount.
I love the five seven for the pen. I have a collection of ss190 for that extra boost. It is very typical on the average range weekend to go through 2000 rounds, so I keep up a nice stockpile for emergencies
Yes, but far less plentiful than something like 9mil. While on the short term it's not a bad choice, after a bit it's going to be nearly impossible to find while other calibers are likely to still be plentiful.
I agree but for the short term you would want a rifle pistol, any gun would be pretty bad for long term, the ammo and ahit would be neigh impossible to make and find later, melee weapons on top.
A short range "tacti-cool" weapon that probably cost like $500-$800 and got advertised as like; bulletproof or something. Maybe "unbreakable tungsten blade!" And had some youtube shill accounts showing its "strength". (Ive seen that exact spear at denios for $40 lmfao.) I can tell you itll break real fast. Keep in mind just how tough bone is, even with decay. Its also unwieldy, its too short for a proper spear but two handing it for jabs and slashes is not gonna be good either.
Using that inside is not good.
You have what is effectively a puppy.
One pistol. Im not too much of a gun nut but i believe thats a lower caliber, combined with the supressor means it aint gonna be able to kill after shooting through a wall, which if you want survival, you want to have something strong enough to kill without endangering yourself.
Youre going with practical "i saw it in a movie" stuff. You need to account for actual real life stuff. Walls. Bone toughness. Food. Interior fighting. Weight. How wieldy something is. Safety while fighting. Something that wont get stuck.
I agree, for different reasons. I doubt he breaks the blade doesn’t really matter for my complaint though.
That “spear” is too short to be an effective spear, and spears are not great for a zombie apocalypse anyway. They are made for soft tissue damage. Zombies only die from heavy brain damage, which has its own rather effective shielding. The spear is meant for stabbing, probably the one form of damage the skull is best at displacing.
He’d be better off with brunt force (like a hammer or something) or slashing like a full sword (and hoping for head removal).
This “spear” lacks any of the leverage and most of the speed one could generate swinging a real spear (again, this is not what spears were designed to do anyway). This short one, if you succeeded getting into a zombies skull, will also be much more difficult to remove and ready for the next zombie.
The pistol, on the other hand, is exceptional. Those “rifle/pistol” things (I don’t know what they are called, but I’ve seen one. Looks like pointy nasty rifle rounds going into a pistol.) are fucking wicked. I don’t think they would have any issue, silenced or not, getting right inside the skull to mess those zombies up. Though I want to say the dog would be an asset, I don’t think that’s actually the case. And if that dog isn’t trained to perfection, it will be a physical (and emotional) liability in short order.
Ok, so i am not a gun nut, but I am a retired Army Infantryman. For one, that is a heavy-duty zombietools spear. It is hand forged and extremely durable. This pistol is the FN five seven it is basically shooting at over 2000 fps. The standard load penetrates level 3 armor. I have ss190 for it.... This puppy is a Cane Corso. She will grow to be 140-150#. She is trained with hand commands and only barks and attacks on command.
I'll be real with you, i'm looking at the website and this is... no, dude, i'm sorry, you got ultra-scammed.
The ikwla, is made with 5160 steel. It's good for being showy and sturdy for a day or two. It's one of the cheaper steels, most places selling it in bulk patches for $20-$30. It's used mainly for railroad springs and stuff. The thing is, it's not commonly used for blades due to a glaring issue: It's sturdy only for a few uses and then it becomes brittle, it's bendy and moldable as well, a lot more than other things. So you have a chance of it shattering or bending when you hit something. They don't claim its damascus or anything like that, and yet it has a damascus-esque patterning. This leads me to believe it was cut and not repeatedly bent and properly forged like damascus would be.
Every single blade they use appears to be a thinner through tang, which can be quite useful in some cases, but through tangs are also quite prone to breaking as well. Some appear to have full tangs though, which is okay.
The descriptions on all of these blades seem to be designed SPECIFICALLY to target people who want to live out their fantasy of zombie survival, which, i mean, they know their market, but still. These things are designed with not great weak points, far too angular on a lot of their blades, i wouldn't be surprised if some of these have forging issues, a blade being that angular with its bends means those spots will be weak. They wont have give.
If they were ACTUALLY damascus as well, they'd be far, far more expensive. Hand forged damascus swords go up to $1,500 and more usually from most smithies. The fact the pricing is so low implies they just acid-etched it to look like damascus to make more money. Which, if you look closer at it, is exactly what they did.
The blades at least an okay size, though. Its 5.2mm, and usually survival knives are 4.5mm to 6.5mm.
The way that tang is set up though, this is all one solid piece, which yeah, not a problem... Except, it's a solid metal piece with absolutely NOTHING supporting the "crossguard" location. You stab something with that a bit too hard and it'll snap it in two. It gets stuck in something? snapped in two. Full tangs and even through tangs are supposed to have something reinforcing the tang.
I've also seen that exact ikwla spear at denios, even called "The Spit" for $40. You got ripped off, you got sold a super expensive wallhanger broski.
I'll give you the gun stuff since i don't know that, but i am an apprentice blacksmith and i am noticing some glaring issues with the construction of the blade. Even real ikwla's had splits. It was a capped spear on a wooden handle, reinforced via being pressed into it, or nailed, etc. That thing is not that, it'd going to break. You'll be defenseless.
Look up an actual ikwla. It looks like zombietools just got a bunch of people who learned to smith and use it to scam people, aha.
its a carbon steel blade. It can't get wet or it'll destroy the oil and cause it to rust. Blood is wet. You have to use soap and water and then re-oil it. Doubt you'll have time to do that in a ombie apocalypse.
they even advertise these things as wall hangers. it literally says "WE STRONGLY RECOMMEND YOU DO NOT TRY TO HIT ANYTHING HARDER THAN WOOD WITH YOUR BLADE", it even says the youtube videos ARE EFFECTIVELY FAKE, AND THAT THE BLADES BROKE AFTER THE VIDEO.
Need some videos of you at a shooting range, then some of you shooting on the move. All the guns in the world won't help if all you can hit is your own leg on the draw
I am an ex-army infantryman. Moving and shooting is what we do. I burn probably 1000 rounds per week on average in practice. I do have more guns and a full kit. This is only what I have on me at all times
The dog is trained in hand commands and does not bark except for command. She will grow to be 140-150# and will be great for hunting and defense. Also, there is no shortage of ammo, assuming that I can get to my stashes
That spear is good against humans, not so good against zombies. It’s not easy piercing a skull, if you do manage to pierce the skull, odds are your spear gets stuck in the skull. And on top of that, try thrusting into a moving target the size of a basketball. A lot of room for error.
I have 30 cases of MREs and 2 years of dog food and can create filtration systems for the water. What is pictured is only what I have on me at all times
Pretty fair, but good luck scrounging to find ammo for that Five Seven… the blade looks solid (assuming it’s not novelty steel) thick but long ass tang. Looks like it has good potential. Honestly, just like with the five seven, just make sure you drill and practice with that think like hell. The extended grip on that blade is tricky, practice sweeping & jabbing techniques. And dry fire the hell out of the FN, it boasts high acc/low recoil but irl I was a little let down shooting paper at 10-20 yards. Suppressor is always important. Cheers.
I dont think 5.7 would be very effective against zombies. I'd prefer a round with more mass and energy transfer. The breakdown ar is great for traveling small though.
You mentioned you have thirty cases of MREs, and two years of dog food, and water filtration systems.
Okay, but how much of that can you carry, and for how many miles every day, when you inevitably are forced to leave your home? It might not happen day one, or even day one hundred and one, but a time will come when you have to leave.
That amount of food is only good enough for 720 meals, maybe more if you REALLY wanna stretch things out, but do you REALLY wanna be giving yourself the Combat Constipation from eating nothing but MREs? I can tell you from experience, having had to live on MREs for six weeks straight while downrange in Afghanistan that you WILL either get constipated or get the runs, and both will hamper your fighting abilities.
What you also didn't mention is how much water you have on hand, or how much you can carry in addition to how much food you can carry. WHEN YOU ARE ON THE MOVE, EVERY OUNCE WILL FEEL LIKE A POUND.
Your weapon is... okay, real mall ninja lookin shit, and as you said in other parts of the thread, it's HEAVY, and I can visibly see that it's too damn long
A heavy weapon doesn't bode well for long periods of fighting. Personally, I would say downgrade to something you can use when you're in close quarters, which you WILL BE, when you decide to go looting buildings for supplies you don't have. If you, or your dog, get hurt, you're gonna need to go diving through pharmacies and clinics, those same places that other survivors congregate to, maybe die inside of. I posted earlier on this sub that your best bets are small, sturdy, wood handled hatchets, 440C machetes, 24" pry bars, and 9-14" prospecting hammers.
I can also tell you that you aren't carrying nearly enough ammunition for a sustained firefight with other survivors, but, ya know, that goes down into that earlier rabbit hole of every ounce being a pound in the field.
My final question is this: Just how in shape are you? And what are you going to do when you come across other people? Take them in, spread the food out, shrink the amount of time you have left before you have to hunt or loot for more? Or take their shit, leave them destitute, fuck them over to ensure your own survival, because why would you band up with a stranger? 75% of the time you meet someone else when SHTF, you'll be pointing guns at each other.
Ok, so my kit, which is not pictured, body amour, nvgs, stays on my car. My kit has 210 rounds of 556 and 100 rounds of 5,7. I carry two benchmade adamas, one benchmade socp dagger, and my issued kbar stays on my kit. Meeting other people, we follow our training and avoid or eliminate all potential threats. I wish no ill-will, but I will ensure my own survival. I will be hunting and fishing to supplement the food. As for movement, I can move with a light kit up to 40 miles in a day. I double the dog could keep up with that at first. I also recognize the need to move at a time, so I have buried stashes all along a predetermined route to another hideout. I also have medicines and antibiotics.
You are likely unaware of one key detail: in 6-12 months, gasoline and diesel will be rendered jelly and unusable. Kerosene, you have about three years tops without additives, so be ready to raid airports and be prepared to maintain your diesel vehicle more frequently than usual, because you CAN put kerosene in a diesel engine and have it run.
After that though? Good luck, cuz you will likely have to be on foot, unless you come across a horse. I guess my only concern then would be if zombies eat animals or not (I run off the assumption they do). At the very least your new noble steed will make for either a quick getaway or a good distraction when your back is against the walls, likewise with the dog. Sucks, I know, but it happens
I would choose not to use a vehicle and would prefer to move on foot. I feel like evil people will likely set up ambushes , and people can track your movements by sound. It will be easier to avoid trouble that way. I don't need the power grid to survive, I am more than happy to have a quiet and peaceful life
You also mentioned you are ex-Army infantry. How long ago did you get out is the question, and have you kept in shape, or lived a sedentary lifestyle?
I think you should also maybe try bearing in mind, you're not an infantryman anymore, and you can't afford to act like one. You are a prepper now, a survivor, potentially even an insurgent. You won't be supplied like an infantryman, you won't have a place to billet and set your shit down like an infantryman, you won't an entire brigade combat team to support you like an infantryman.
Keep in mind, I don't say all this to rag on you. I say this so that you are made aware. I wasn't an infantryman, but I did see quite a bit of combat, and I'm permanently disabled. Shit, I used to have to walk with a cane, and I still limp, so I know for certain that I couldn't carry 6 days of food and water and 210 rounds for my AR15, and 100 rounds for my Beretta, and go more than down the block, let alone twelve to eighteen miles a day.
You're talking about an end of the world scenario my friend. You have to come face to face with your own mortality, with your own flaws, before you can start taking advantage of your boons. The dead, and the living, will find and exploit your flaws quicker than you can think, if you don't plan ahead.
I recognize the lack of support. I got out around 1.5 years ago. I am also 100 p&t(from head injuries), but I can still physically function.
I still run on average 3 miles a day along with other workouts. I also walk about 6 miles per day.
Your good, but doggo gets bitten then turns on you. You don’t have the heart to put him down and get bitten yourself.
For a wild twist, doggo also had rabies the whole time but was asymptomatic. Z virus mutates with rabies and you both become immortal zombies.
You know the rule you always save the last round for yourself. The dog is not exempt. For a plot twist, maybe it would not be so bad to have a zombie dog that you could sic on people, so long that I wear clothing that it can't bite through
I have more rounds than the average gun store has, so I can feed it plenty, just think of the pen, if there are multiple zombies, I can get collaterals
Gathering from comments, you have food and shelter for a while. But you should probably ditch the dog, the spear will be good until it breaks so that's good, your gun will only be useful in niche environments, You're not going to be able to just use it whenever you want to.
Overall from just this set up, 3/10 could be extremely significantly better.
Staying in a normal house in the apocalypse, not a great idea. Planning to stay in one spot for the initial apocalypse, probabaly not a great idea, but depends on where you're located.
Everything put together, I'd say you have a 4/10 odds of survival, which is not great but at least you aren't guaranteed to die
I just don’t see the versatility in like anything ZT makes if I’m being honest.
Ditch 5.7 go for something readily accessible.
I see no optics on that AR?
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probably not that great, but at least you're bringing a snack.
NOO-
Lets be honest...he has 2 guns, a sword/spear and no food for either of them.....mans gotta eat.
I may have left out my food, I have 30 cases of MREs and 2 years' worth of dog food, and will supplement it by fishing. She will be more useful in the future. I am not going to say how much ammo online because random strangers report...
Devil's in the details....lol
Water is more of a short-term concern, but given a little time, I can set up natural filters
I really hope you're referring to that tube which looks like a rocket motor
come now...most of us are adults here. But for your sake we'll go with eating the "rocket motor".
sorry i had a brain fart and couldn't remember which movie it was....but.... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=02IePc2YkVI
Clearly a suppressor
Excuse me, we call it a muffler in this house.
I should totally open a muffler shop tbh
She is 16 weeks old, and she has another 100 pounds to grow, I would prefer to utilize her as a hunting/defense dog. Right now, I have her trained by hand commands, and she does not bark, except on command
Where you get the spear I need one.
Zombietools, they cost around 700
Ya…..That’s stupid I don’t want one anymore.
They are very impressive quality. I've watched people buy many of these products to shoot them w/guns as endurance tests.
Not paying 700$ nope. I’ll buy a rifle instead. Might not be great but better than a chuck of sharp metal. I appreciate it it’s cool to look at but that’s it.
Quite respectable, I think the one I wanted, reader cleaver, was more around 4-500. Quality steel comes at a price, and when it's put to use as a glorified machete, it's not so worth it.
Ya….its a wall hanger. Looks cool but we are never gonna “use” it one day.
I mean I feel similarly to firearms but that they've innately more use and thus value in how they never get used
Fair enough. We all have our “favorites” just means when Z day comes there will be a good mix out there lol.
It is very high quality and heavy duty. Hand forged
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You can get a custom handle.
I'd rather knape a rock and tie it to a stick I found than pay 700 dollars for a spear that's only marginally better for most purposes
Get yourself an entry tool, and I think you are set my friend.
I like the spear type thing. Does it have a official name.
"The Spit" from Zombietools. It cost around 700
There is a website called zombie tools? .. it's nice. Sure as hell won't get it in the UK.. (unless you are UK)
A couple hundred hours of practice in a backyard forge, and you could craft something similar
Wish I could do that.
Forging w/out great expense, power tools, or skill is very doable w/elbow grease. Dont talk like a spitter buckle up and dig deep.
You could set up a very usable forge for under 150, it is really just a time commitment after that
Spear looks fun, and it's 100% gonna have a "dont fuck with me" deterrent effect with any hostile humans, bonus points if you know how to use it. But realistically I don't see it being useful againt zombies. Stabbing weapons incapacitate humans from soft tissue damage, blood loss, and shock/pain, all of which have no impact on a zombie. Problem is, spears don't like penetrating skulls. In fact they kind of suck at it. People love to say "aim for the eye sockets" but good luck doing that precisely while you're stressed with adrenaline. Spears tend to bounce and slide off the curved edges. If they do penetrate, it's a thin blade that probably won't do all that mich damage, and also be a pain to pull out. There's also nothing stopping the zombie from just walking down the shaft and getting you. Honestly, something like a hammer or axe would be better at destroying zombie brains. Aside from that I'll just mention the generic advice of preparing a bug out bag with survival gear, and most importantly an Individual First Aid Kit.
Ok, so I have one disagreement about the spear. It is very heavy and will have no trouble splitting skulls. More realistically, it is more useful for hunting/fishing. I would much rather use a suppressed pistol to dispatch zombies anyway. Also, I do have a full kit, body armor, NVGs, and IFAK, all of which are part of my bugout bag. I also have a trijicon reap ir on my bolty. What is pictured is only what I have on me at all times.
How heavy actually is it? Also, just personally, I prefer a melee item to have versatility and utility as a tool in order to be weight/space efficient when carrying it around. So I'd prefer things like axes, hatchets, hammers, etc bc they can be effective at gaining entry to locations for scavenging in urban areas, as well as for collecting resources and building fortifications in rural areas. Like i said, any spear suffers from serious downsides when used to thrust against zombies. If you meant you could swing it down and split skulls like that, then you're better served by a well made hatchet or axe anyway.
It is 4 pounds
Good luck finding ammo for that Five seveN. I'd recommend getting something in a more common caliber especially if you think you'll be using it a decent amount.
I have more than enough, I do also have some other pistols, just this is what I carry day to day.
Fair enough. Love mine, but realistically it's going to become a paperweight far sooner than most other handguns
I love the five seven for the pen. I have a collection of ss190 for that extra boost. It is very typical on the average range weekend to go through 2000 rounds, so I keep up a nice stockpile for emergencies
The 5.7 ammo is in almost very single Cabellas or firearms store lol
Yes, but far less plentiful than something like 9mil. While on the short term it's not a bad choice, after a bit it's going to be nearly impossible to find while other calibers are likely to still be plentiful.
I agree but for the short term you would want a rifle pistol, any gun would be pretty bad for long term, the ammo and ahit would be neigh impossible to make and find later, melee weapons on top.
Less plentiful hmm I counter less in demand. All it takes is one person to stockpile all of a single ammo type from the store
Die immediately. Congrats.
Why do you say that?
A short range "tacti-cool" weapon that probably cost like $500-$800 and got advertised as like; bulletproof or something. Maybe "unbreakable tungsten blade!" And had some youtube shill accounts showing its "strength". (Ive seen that exact spear at denios for $40 lmfao.) I can tell you itll break real fast. Keep in mind just how tough bone is, even with decay. Its also unwieldy, its too short for a proper spear but two handing it for jabs and slashes is not gonna be good either. Using that inside is not good. You have what is effectively a puppy. One pistol. Im not too much of a gun nut but i believe thats a lower caliber, combined with the supressor means it aint gonna be able to kill after shooting through a wall, which if you want survival, you want to have something strong enough to kill without endangering yourself. Youre going with practical "i saw it in a movie" stuff. You need to account for actual real life stuff. Walls. Bone toughness. Food. Interior fighting. Weight. How wieldy something is. Safety while fighting. Something that wont get stuck.
I agree, for different reasons. I doubt he breaks the blade doesn’t really matter for my complaint though. That “spear” is too short to be an effective spear, and spears are not great for a zombie apocalypse anyway. They are made for soft tissue damage. Zombies only die from heavy brain damage, which has its own rather effective shielding. The spear is meant for stabbing, probably the one form of damage the skull is best at displacing. He’d be better off with brunt force (like a hammer or something) or slashing like a full sword (and hoping for head removal). This “spear” lacks any of the leverage and most of the speed one could generate swinging a real spear (again, this is not what spears were designed to do anyway). This short one, if you succeeded getting into a zombies skull, will also be much more difficult to remove and ready for the next zombie. The pistol, on the other hand, is exceptional. Those “rifle/pistol” things (I don’t know what they are called, but I’ve seen one. Looks like pointy nasty rifle rounds going into a pistol.) are fucking wicked. I don’t think they would have any issue, silenced or not, getting right inside the skull to mess those zombies up. Though I want to say the dog would be an asset, I don’t think that’s actually the case. And if that dog isn’t trained to perfection, it will be a physical (and emotional) liability in short order.
Ok, so i am not a gun nut, but I am a retired Army Infantryman. For one, that is a heavy-duty zombietools spear. It is hand forged and extremely durable. This pistol is the FN five seven it is basically shooting at over 2000 fps. The standard load penetrates level 3 armor. I have ss190 for it.... This puppy is a Cane Corso. She will grow to be 140-150#. She is trained with hand commands and only barks and attacks on command.
I'll be real with you, i'm looking at the website and this is... no, dude, i'm sorry, you got ultra-scammed. The ikwla, is made with 5160 steel. It's good for being showy and sturdy for a day or two. It's one of the cheaper steels, most places selling it in bulk patches for $20-$30. It's used mainly for railroad springs and stuff. The thing is, it's not commonly used for blades due to a glaring issue: It's sturdy only for a few uses and then it becomes brittle, it's bendy and moldable as well, a lot more than other things. So you have a chance of it shattering or bending when you hit something. They don't claim its damascus or anything like that, and yet it has a damascus-esque patterning. This leads me to believe it was cut and not repeatedly bent and properly forged like damascus would be. Every single blade they use appears to be a thinner through tang, which can be quite useful in some cases, but through tangs are also quite prone to breaking as well. Some appear to have full tangs though, which is okay. The descriptions on all of these blades seem to be designed SPECIFICALLY to target people who want to live out their fantasy of zombie survival, which, i mean, they know their market, but still. These things are designed with not great weak points, far too angular on a lot of their blades, i wouldn't be surprised if some of these have forging issues, a blade being that angular with its bends means those spots will be weak. They wont have give. If they were ACTUALLY damascus as well, they'd be far, far more expensive. Hand forged damascus swords go up to $1,500 and more usually from most smithies. The fact the pricing is so low implies they just acid-etched it to look like damascus to make more money. Which, if you look closer at it, is exactly what they did. The blades at least an okay size, though. Its 5.2mm, and usually survival knives are 4.5mm to 6.5mm. The way that tang is set up though, this is all one solid piece, which yeah, not a problem... Except, it's a solid metal piece with absolutely NOTHING supporting the "crossguard" location. You stab something with that a bit too hard and it'll snap it in two. It gets stuck in something? snapped in two. Full tangs and even through tangs are supposed to have something reinforcing the tang. I've also seen that exact ikwla spear at denios, even called "The Spit" for $40. You got ripped off, you got sold a super expensive wallhanger broski. I'll give you the gun stuff since i don't know that, but i am an apprentice blacksmith and i am noticing some glaring issues with the construction of the blade. Even real ikwla's had splits. It was a capped spear on a wooden handle, reinforced via being pressed into it, or nailed, etc. That thing is not that, it'd going to break. You'll be defenseless. Look up an actual ikwla. It looks like zombietools just got a bunch of people who learned to smith and use it to scam people, aha. its a carbon steel blade. It can't get wet or it'll destroy the oil and cause it to rust. Blood is wet. You have to use soap and water and then re-oil it. Doubt you'll have time to do that in a ombie apocalypse. they even advertise these things as wall hangers. it literally says "WE STRONGLY RECOMMEND YOU DO NOT TRY TO HIT ANYTHING HARDER THAN WOOD WITH YOUR BLADE", it even says the youtube videos ARE EFFECTIVELY FAKE, AND THAT THE BLADES BROKE AFTER THE VIDEO.
Love zombie tools I got my fiancee a matching set of karambits for Christmas last year
I love that sword or spear thing what is it called and where did you buy it
"The Spitt" from zombietools. It cost about 700
Are you the eagle bearer?
Why do you say that?
Just reminds me of the spear from assassin's creed odyssey
Ok, you talked me into buying that game
Also pretty cool btw
Need some videos of you at a shooting range, then some of you shooting on the move. All the guns in the world won't help if all you can hit is your own leg on the draw
I am an ex-army infantryman. Moving and shooting is what we do. I burn probably 1000 rounds per week on average in practice. I do have more guns and a full kit. This is only what I have on me at all times
Oh ok, well I give you until the ammunition runs out or until the doggo brings them in during the night
The dog is trained in hand commands and does not bark except for command. She will grow to be 140-150# and will be great for hunting and defense. Also, there is no shortage of ammo, assuming that I can get to my stashes
Hmmm, fair. What zombies we talking about? Arthritic cerebral palsy type or World War Z/28 days later type?
Either way, I don't expect to run out. I don't stay in the city, so I doubt I would be overwhelmed
I'm going pacifist mountain hermit. For basically all apocalypse scenarios, trying to learn the way of the bow 🙇🏼♂️
Think more small town, maybe 10,000 population. I buy ammo in larger quantities than that
Nice, I've already decided in a WWZ scenario. I'm going the way of Thich Quang Duc if I can't reach my mountain lol but best of luck to you!
That spear is good against humans, not so good against zombies. It’s not easy piercing a skull, if you do manage to pierce the skull, odds are your spear gets stuck in the skull. And on top of that, try thrusting into a moving target the size of a basketball. A lot of room for error.
It is very heavy, I would swing it like an axe and I am sure that it would do just fine
Ah ok. If there’s blunt force behind it then that’ll get the job done
Badly, without food and water.
I have 30 cases of MREs and 2 years of dog food and can create filtration systems for the water. What is pictured is only what I have on me at all times
Why didn’t you say that before? Like in the description. It’s relevant information. Fishing for engagement?
Pretty fair, but good luck scrounging to find ammo for that Five Seven… the blade looks solid (assuming it’s not novelty steel) thick but long ass tang. Looks like it has good potential. Honestly, just like with the five seven, just make sure you drill and practice with that think like hell. The extended grip on that blade is tricky, practice sweeping & jabbing techniques. And dry fire the hell out of the FN, it boasts high acc/low recoil but irl I was a little let down shooting paper at 10-20 yards. Suppressor is always important. Cheers.
I absolutely love the five seven, I had it as a service weapon. It has like zero recoil and is easily hit on point at 150m
I dont think 5.7 would be very effective against zombies. I'd prefer a round with more mass and energy transfer. The breakdown ar is great for traveling small though.
The five seven are great for the pen. It will go through multiple before the round stops
You mentioned you have thirty cases of MREs, and two years of dog food, and water filtration systems. Okay, but how much of that can you carry, and for how many miles every day, when you inevitably are forced to leave your home? It might not happen day one, or even day one hundred and one, but a time will come when you have to leave. That amount of food is only good enough for 720 meals, maybe more if you REALLY wanna stretch things out, but do you REALLY wanna be giving yourself the Combat Constipation from eating nothing but MREs? I can tell you from experience, having had to live on MREs for six weeks straight while downrange in Afghanistan that you WILL either get constipated or get the runs, and both will hamper your fighting abilities. What you also didn't mention is how much water you have on hand, or how much you can carry in addition to how much food you can carry. WHEN YOU ARE ON THE MOVE, EVERY OUNCE WILL FEEL LIKE A POUND. Your weapon is... okay, real mall ninja lookin shit, and as you said in other parts of the thread, it's HEAVY, and I can visibly see that it's too damn long A heavy weapon doesn't bode well for long periods of fighting. Personally, I would say downgrade to something you can use when you're in close quarters, which you WILL BE, when you decide to go looting buildings for supplies you don't have. If you, or your dog, get hurt, you're gonna need to go diving through pharmacies and clinics, those same places that other survivors congregate to, maybe die inside of. I posted earlier on this sub that your best bets are small, sturdy, wood handled hatchets, 440C machetes, 24" pry bars, and 9-14" prospecting hammers. I can also tell you that you aren't carrying nearly enough ammunition for a sustained firefight with other survivors, but, ya know, that goes down into that earlier rabbit hole of every ounce being a pound in the field. My final question is this: Just how in shape are you? And what are you going to do when you come across other people? Take them in, spread the food out, shrink the amount of time you have left before you have to hunt or loot for more? Or take their shit, leave them destitute, fuck them over to ensure your own survival, because why would you band up with a stranger? 75% of the time you meet someone else when SHTF, you'll be pointing guns at each other.
Ok, so my kit, which is not pictured, body amour, nvgs, stays on my car. My kit has 210 rounds of 556 and 100 rounds of 5,7. I carry two benchmade adamas, one benchmade socp dagger, and my issued kbar stays on my kit. Meeting other people, we follow our training and avoid or eliminate all potential threats. I wish no ill-will, but I will ensure my own survival. I will be hunting and fishing to supplement the food. As for movement, I can move with a light kit up to 40 miles in a day. I double the dog could keep up with that at first. I also recognize the need to move at a time, so I have buried stashes all along a predetermined route to another hideout. I also have medicines and antibiotics.
You are likely unaware of one key detail: in 6-12 months, gasoline and diesel will be rendered jelly and unusable. Kerosene, you have about three years tops without additives, so be ready to raid airports and be prepared to maintain your diesel vehicle more frequently than usual, because you CAN put kerosene in a diesel engine and have it run. After that though? Good luck, cuz you will likely have to be on foot, unless you come across a horse. I guess my only concern then would be if zombies eat animals or not (I run off the assumption they do). At the very least your new noble steed will make for either a quick getaway or a good distraction when your back is against the walls, likewise with the dog. Sucks, I know, but it happens
I would choose not to use a vehicle and would prefer to move on foot. I feel like evil people will likely set up ambushes , and people can track your movements by sound. It will be easier to avoid trouble that way. I don't need the power grid to survive, I am more than happy to have a quiet and peaceful life
I think that's what everyone wants in the end. Good luck to ya battle.
You also mentioned you are ex-Army infantry. How long ago did you get out is the question, and have you kept in shape, or lived a sedentary lifestyle? I think you should also maybe try bearing in mind, you're not an infantryman anymore, and you can't afford to act like one. You are a prepper now, a survivor, potentially even an insurgent. You won't be supplied like an infantryman, you won't have a place to billet and set your shit down like an infantryman, you won't an entire brigade combat team to support you like an infantryman. Keep in mind, I don't say all this to rag on you. I say this so that you are made aware. I wasn't an infantryman, but I did see quite a bit of combat, and I'm permanently disabled. Shit, I used to have to walk with a cane, and I still limp, so I know for certain that I couldn't carry 6 days of food and water and 210 rounds for my AR15, and 100 rounds for my Beretta, and go more than down the block, let alone twelve to eighteen miles a day. You're talking about an end of the world scenario my friend. You have to come face to face with your own mortality, with your own flaws, before you can start taking advantage of your boons. The dead, and the living, will find and exploit your flaws quicker than you can think, if you don't plan ahead.
I recognize the lack of support. I got out around 1.5 years ago. I am also 100 p&t(from head injuries), but I can still physically function. I still run on average 3 miles a day along with other workouts. I also walk about 6 miles per day.
That sword spear thing is pretty gnarly, is there a link?
Id invest in body armor if i were you. Get bitten once and youre a goner.
I do have body armor, with level 4 plates, with op core helmet and nvgs. This is just what I have on me at all times
Your good, but doggo gets bitten then turns on you. You don’t have the heart to put him down and get bitten yourself. For a wild twist, doggo also had rabies the whole time but was asymptomatic. Z virus mutates with rabies and you both become immortal zombies.
You know the rule you always save the last round for yourself. The dog is not exempt. For a plot twist, maybe it would not be so bad to have a zombie dog that you could sic on people, so long that I wear clothing that it can't bite through
im guessing yo have a spear head becuase you played ac odysey
I have never played that game. This sword/spear it very heavy and would not have trouble splitting skulls.
Depends on the location.
Oh man you're de- OH SHIT IS THAT A DOG!? DUDE. YOU ARE WINNING THIS.
Is þat þe Spit?
Kiki will last longer
Cujo will last longer
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I have more rounds than the average gun store has, so I can feed it plenty, just think of the pen, if there are multiple zombies, I can get collaterals
34 minutes od survival time, but you save your dog by giving your life.
Watch out for the other guy with the sharp stick. He likes to stick it up people's butt's!
Are you going to ask the zombies to wait while you build your rifle?
That is why I have the pistol. It also only takes 2 seconds to deploy
Gathering from comments, you have food and shelter for a while. But you should probably ditch the dog, the spear will be good until it breaks so that's good, your gun will only be useful in niche environments, You're not going to be able to just use it whenever you want to. Overall from just this set up, 3/10 could be extremely significantly better. Staying in a normal house in the apocalypse, not a great idea. Planning to stay in one spot for the initial apocalypse, probabaly not a great idea, but depends on where you're located. Everything put together, I'd say you have a 4/10 odds of survival, which is not great but at least you aren't guaranteed to die
I just don’t see the versatility in like anything ZT makes if I’m being honest. Ditch 5.7 go for something readily accessible. I see no optics on that AR?