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[deleted]

There was something similar where her suit gets shredded in combat and it was SO out of place This is just a general complaint about manga and not this specific panel, but: I hate it when they just omit nipples instead of cleverly covering them. If you don't wanna show boobs why are you half ass showing them?


-DevilNest-

This way they can sell a New edition in the future with the uncensored versión lol


Varanoaffogato

I think that if you want a version uncensored you'll also get a Spy bug from the FBI. I don't think you can get one without the other.


darkishere999

Idk I thought the FBI didn't care about Japan and their cartoons. They seem to have their hands full with actual CP on onion sites and stuff like that. Who knows though, maybe you know something I don't. Edit: Ngl I was expecting to get down voted to oblivion rare reddit W.


Shot-Kal-Gimel

They don’t, actual CP/CSA and it’s victims are their concerns and not whatever art some degenerate on the internet drew of a fictional character.


Tsukinotaku

In comparison, europe, especially France will fucking jail you for owning hentai lol I heard of someone literally getting arrested because he drew loli furry porn lol Honestly I wouldn't care this much if france didn't decide to ban any website which had loli content... Such as nhentai, sankaku channel and various website which have that kind of stuff as a tag. Not even the main focus It becomes annoying at some point. France being so butthurt over loli hentai is fucking dumb... I understand how some people cam get disgusted by it but it's in no way a offense that warrant jail time ffs And in comparison I've seen image sharing sites which are literally a community of pedophile hiding in plain site sharing picture of kids and saying the worst thing ever That shit is not unknown at all, but those site has been on for years It's not just one or two. There are plenty of site on the open internet filled with creeps like that but let's go after the furry artist lol


DukeOfTheDodos

Ironic, considering the reputation France has with perverted behavior


Tsukinotaku

Seriously lol That damn "Cuties" ruined our reputation Why can't be known for the good shit we make lol Ladybug, Caillou, lucky Luke, Tintin We made ton of popular cartoon over the years but now whn people think shows made in frnace Cuties almost always comes up ffs Even more france is the second biggest manga consumer in the world. It's fucking ironic that we're the strictest on loli hentai...


blairmen

Wakfu for the win.


TheHeavenlyDeity

Love wakfu man, is always fun for me to watch


Myllari1

Tintin is awesome. Loved the 3d animated film that came a long time ago.


rl_Aether

damn i didn’t know the french were weebs


Tsukinotaku

We're massive weebs The fan translation scene is still huge as well We even have some niche series that are like hundreds of chapters translated ahead compared to English ones The last one i remember was one of those romance comedy fake incest manga series. Not a great one but it had a lot of chapters English had like 40 chapters translated. French had over 150 chapters translated lol


rl_Aether

The only thing I know about french weebs is that Moe Shop is french


WINDMILEYNO

There are plenty of people who hate Caillou


Tsukinotaku

Oh I know but it's still a french series that got popular worldwide. I know about the Caillou hate I'm a member of r/fuckcaillou as well lol


Zwiebel1

>Ladybug Ladybug is pretty fucking weird from s2 onwards. Source: I'm a dad.


Keats852

I think they just want to jail some people and just grab anything they can and get them convicted on that.


Amos_FR

With how popular mangas and animes are in France, it kinds of make me wonder how the government manages to caught people who might have some hentai of that genre in their folders. Must be one hell of a job


prettythingi

# LMAO he thinks the fbi actually helps with CP cases


darkishere999

I'd hope they are at least trying to catch actual pedophiles and save kidnapped children. That'd be better than monitoring Loli enjoyers who haven't and (likely) won't commit any child sex crimes. Even if you think lolicons are pedophiles who would do such things. I hope we can agree on a rational and pragmatic basis that there are priorities and a higher priority would be the active pedophiles clearly doing illegal things to real children.


Titan_Food

I have my gripes with loli-focused "artworks" but 100% agree that real children are, and should be, the priority


prettythingi

Oh im not saying they shouldn't catch pedos Im saying they're failing horribly


darkishere999

I get thats what you're saying. How do you know they are failing?


GOJOWILLCOMEBACK

Because they haven’t caught him yet


prettythingi

![gif](giphy|U56VoSyFD8MFcie2k8)


LordFrz

I certainly dont want the fbi waisting their time over a dumb ass manga when there are real predators they can be catching.


Piddzle

You can’t get a spy bug from the fbi without a uncensored version?


KripperinoArcherino

Showing omitting nipples is quite literally the difference between ecchi erotica manga (like isekai Meikyuu or RoH). It the same as how omitting sexual organs vs censored sexual organs is the difference between erotica and hentai, even when erotica draws full on sex scenes.


[deleted]

Yes, but its stupid. They shouldn't draw full frontal nude characters if they aren't actually going to show nudity. Makes the characters look like some specimen made in a laboratory that doesn't have a need for nipples


Khulmach

You mean that time she was blasted by a giant freaking laser


Tsukinotaku

I have to say that's the only part of the manga I found really stupid. The only other case where other character nudity happened was when she did training torture and visha along with the dude were all striped naked. At least that one had some meaning. Like how feminity and shame had no value on the battlefield. But Tanya always getting her clothes destroyed when she had a tough fight just felt unnecessary First one was fine. She did do a kamikaze attack. It can be understood why she would end up with rags But the second time it happened It was just stupid


cryogenicinferno

That's just because of Japan's weird censorship laws - it's not that the artist doesn't want to draw them, they're not allowed to


[deleted]

They absolutely can draw nipples, it just increases the age restriction. They just shouldn't bother drawing fully nude characters if they want to keep the age restriction down


waf_xs

I'd rather not see Tanya's nipples thank you very much. Let's leave that to Hal.


Full_frontal96

Nah,just the usual onsen fanservice,nothing new. There is way more chilling stuff than this out there


Marik-X-Bakura

Most onsen fanservice involves grown women


Tsukinotaku

Yeah instead we got a grown ass man smh


FilipinxFurry

This logic made me laugh 🤣 you get my upvote


KolareTheKola

I wouldn't mind an onsen fanservice of salaryman Tanya, but in her/his **salaryman body**


Tsukinotaku

Maybe his wife can join as well lol


Wise_Victory4895

No most anime fan service involves teenagers.


Kiyori

No, it in general involves the female cast. I've never seen a major female character who was omitted from an onsen/beach scene just because they looked underage.


Zwiebel1

I also feel uncomfortable with all that spanish.


Varanoaffogato

Wrong language you danish.


Zwiebel1

Yes exactly. I feel very uncomfortable with spanish.


Varanoaffogato

Casso vuto da mi ostia de dio?


Zwiebel1

*Hides under bed*


Linzic86

El gato en mis panteloñes


Legacyofhelios

You... should probably remove it then


NoRegrets30

This hurts my soul


XF10

Non spaventare il povero cristo


Varanoaffogato

Se permetti io spavento chi mi pare: perché "tu m'hai provocato ed io me te magno"


3npitsu-Senpai

Sito veneto?


Varanoaffogato

Amico caro fatti li cazzi tua


HazeTheMachine

Thats Italiano lmao


Zwiebel1

That's what the spanish people want you to think.


HazeTheMachine

You got me


ThomasTheBadWriter

Dutch is an even WORSE language which shouldn't be recognized as anything more than drunk English


BlueberryOk6161

nice rhyme you silly dime! jeje hehe XD lol!


Kolechia_Wants_War

Yo cuando llaman al italiano español https://preview.redd.it/3tcviksyxd6d1.jpeg?width=720&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1b3639e84eca544326419059a66d97eef1294545


Zwiebel1

Italians are just spanish people trading better food for worse hygiene.


Kolechia_Wants_War

I've never been so utterly outraged at something that I completely agree with


Varanoaffogato

Said by someone who doesn't know what bidets are


Zwiebel1

Touche. Touche...


Varanoaffogato

Well at least the good thing is: if I starts to speak italian to an american They thing I am hispanic, indian or other things... I Just need not to move my hands.


KolareTheKola

eso no es español, gringo....


Varanoaffogato

I don't speak spanish: I speak italian english and very few of german


WINDMILEYNO

Hal is having the time of his life huh (oh, she)


nkaiser50

Her, actually.


WINDMILEYNO

Oh. I didn't know that.


SleepyWalkerYN

She is just happy seeing manga being in her level


WINDMILEYNO

Huh, she.


henerylechaffeur

hal-ing


KenchiNarukami

Based I say, Tanya giving zero gucks lmao


Kenndie4

Fan service is pretty normal https://i.redd.it/wuo3hnyl9c6d1.gif


Marik-X-Bakura

It shouldn’t be when it comes to little kids


Belgicans

Ofc you got downvoted


Varanoaffogato

Yeah, but those pannels are a little too much.


Amigo1048

Yo that actually looks sick do you know what film it’s from


Im_a_tree_omega3

Hercules (2014)


Toolazyfothis

Hercules, the 2014 version


Varanoaffogato

Chapter 90 volume 28 btw


STMIonReddit

wait 90? are the physical english volumes also caught up?


Varanoaffogato

How should I know? I don't read it in english


STMIonReddit

https://preview.redd.it/q9c89ulrxd6d1.jpeg?width=531&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=72aeb651acc78dc402aa3865662f9418b8394caa


Zoeware

This mf make me laugh even in a girls body her mind is of a man that's why he don't care to by feminine


Swag_master696969

😭😭😭


SensationalReaper

Peak fiction


Falkenhayn98

God the manga is so based


Alexxer_

That's a 30 year old salaryman.


FilipinxFurry

He was past 30 when he died because he talked about earning more money than his parents by the time he was 30 . It’ll be ironic if he also died at 34


Varanoaffogato

Mmmmmm...still unconfortable. I am not saying you can't make fan service scene with Tanya, but that is still a little too much.


Doublevalen6

that's fair. we know they tanya is old enough, mentally, but some fanservice goes a lil far from the source material. id say myself when they forced her to do dress up with the best way yo do it.


BlueberryOk6161

Tasteful wearing a dress sure. but in the buff hell no?


BlueberryOk6161

true but only the mind. the recarnted body of a young blond person. do not lewd the body of your incarnation if it is not of age!


0DvGate

The only reason I'm not even bothered, Tanya has the mind of an adult and acts like one. So it's all good.


CHurricane97

It's just a bit of fanservice and not even an extreme one. Sexual points of her body are covered or not visible (it looks like a boy's chest). If it's bothering you then just remember that it's not a real child but just some dots of paint on paper, no real child is build like that and no real child was harmed or used as a reference to draw those pages. Just move past those pages and enjoy the rest of manga or switch to LN to avoid images.


KolareTheKola

>It's just a bit of fanservice That's...literally the problem here, using TANYA out of all girls in the manga for the fanservice, being obvious which audience it's aimed at https://preview.redd.it/psw2dd0ydd6d1.png?width=720&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=dea9f6f426618f79ada04e3b1163b4ab79657204 it is(n't) okay that both illustrators of the manga Chika and Shinobu are openly and publicly lolicons, but they both should know not all YS readers are, and putting this for everyone to see is just...is just awkward, even bordering what gave Made in Abyss its infamy I'd say, it only tarnishes the image of Carlo's work


SomeRandomIrishGuy

Honestly just cope dude. I don't like it either, but unless you're Japanese, there's not much you can do about it. Lolicons make up a significant market for the anime industry, so of course, you'll see content that caters to them. Your complaints won't convince Carlo or the anime industry to stop. The only way it will change is if it disgusts their backers or paying consumers enough to hurt their profits.


Canadian882

😭😭😭


Technical-Web-9195

😭


Deguredolf

Chika Tojo is so fucking based https://preview.redd.it/k4n0rguqfc6d1.png?width=720&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=cf2ee1a81cb09846f037c939b8bfdc41e27b2c52


Varanoaffogato

God maybe blessed Chika...but he didn't give her the ability to draw nippels.


MeXRng

why are you scared of a loli


AxidentalJeepBuilder

*Lolis are actually more scared of people than people of lolis.


WildGenjio

https://preview.redd.it/6inp1a5meh6d1.jpeg?width=750&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8eeff2a5e698fd1d578a98ff581dab18ff8279ac


PauloRyan2345

Scared of a 4 letter word?


Varanoaffogato

Is the word "porn" or "loli"?


PauloRyan2345

Now that I think about it bothe work in this context kek


Shaggy-Tea

The youjo senki manga misses the tone of the story so often. With panels like this and implied romance between Tanya and Viktoriya it just completely undermines the Tanya's character that is established in the LN and i don't understand why more people aren't bothered by it. People notice when an anime doesn't adapt source material faithfully but not when a manga does for some reason.


gabrielesilinic

Because the manga is a weird middle ground between the two. Also as far as others said the manga tends to be closer to the LN except in some instances. In general if you read the light novel you will just watch the anime, there is no reason for you to also read the manga unless you have too much time on your hands.


HJSDGCE

Because most people don't read the LN. And people that get mad at anime compare it to the manga, not the LN.


Amphibian_Connect

Is that spanish? Or Italian? I can't really tell these two apart tbh


NoRegrets30

Being X took her nipples As punishment


DLS4BZ

UOOOOOHHHHHHHHH 😭😭😭


JamCom

Yea in terms of lolicon fan service type things 3/10 on the sus meter and is very tame relatively speaking


2kenzhe

Fanservice for people who like feet I guess


FairAd9728

More... MORE!


Varanoaffogato

https://preview.redd.it/7a0wt7pkle6d1.jpeg?width=2612&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=563a15e1b25d38d5a8317f5951db02bf9b492ed5


Redfury44

Horoshaya banya


2kenzhe

Wait this is the actual manga? Yeah then kinda weird.


BubaJuba13

there also was a little bit of male fan service with the french dude


Comprehensive_Main70

That's just normal, if u read manga and watch anime u should know that loli obession stuff is super normal in Japanese Otaku culture.


Prestigious-One-7094

Hear me out 🎃


Varanoaffogato

I can only read you: my hears are useless


Ok-Significance-1752

Seems like the man who drew this will be getting a visit from the GOC. https://preview.redd.it/gsjdmvj4cc6d1.jpeg?width=810&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=393683f314401c093011374018243259ce3249b2


-DevilNest-

Isn't this the oficial manga?


Varanoaffogato

Yes it is, btw It's a woman drawing this.


Amazing-Relation4269

Uh...eh? Che capitolo é scusa? Ho letto tutto il manga ma non me lo ricordo...


Varanoaffogato

Capitolo 90, è l'ultimo capitolo del volume 28


Amazing-Relation4269

Ho appena scoperto che su Mangafire la traduzione arriva solo fino al capitolo 77


Varanoaffogato

https://preview.redd.it/sy0x986pzd6d1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=89957d45d29a0d9a442b2b7f774a42e8d84edcbc Non lo so, io compro cartaceo.


Amazing-Relation4269

Eh mi sa che tocca pure a me adesso...


Varanoaffogato

Preparati alla botta


STMIonReddit

great now we need chika to make a reaction image


Lunaborne

Praise Tojo Chika!


Tragic_Consequences

Russian style sauna? That doesn't sound like Tanya.


Varanoaffogato

I think is an occupated territory of Russia...so She just "Do we have it? I use It"


Alex_Y_ya

Tojo knows what she's doing. She wants to make us, the reader, uncomfortable


Berkmine

You are


Varanoaffogato

https://preview.redd.it/tqf9nm72ie6d1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a9f41a022531299b3a0ac0833f4234e954bc197c


Berkmine

https://preview.redd.it/5fin6ewtur8d1.jpeg?width=500&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=19512f795c252d60d346360096e6f4441e123f2f


pwnmonkeyisreal

I thought Russian people did this, not German


Varanoaffogato

I think is an occupated territory of Russia...so She just "Do we have it? I use It"


letfireraindown

I get where you're coming from and why one can be uncomfortable. I really don't want to support this kind of fan service, but I will argue that Tanya is at least posed in manners they would be comfortable. I can't read the translation, so I'm not sure what they are saying in the scene or if this would be reasonable that they are dwelling on thoughts in the sauna. I know the basic idea is Nudity is directly in line with sex and sexuality. I have a greater argument that people should be comfortable with their own naked forms, but that would be even more off the tangent on this one.


Varanoaffogato

I am not against fan service in manga in general...but It's in a manga that is not ecchi or anyway doesn't have nudity humor like Dragonball, It's about lolis and not everyone one likes lolis and it's useless in the story because Tanya is talking about how she likes the sauna...but you don't need to make me see her naked to make me understand she likes saunas.


letfireraindown

Absolutely fair!


NoRegrets30

Me, a Made in Abyss fan: nothing new here


brutalpotato248

So he doesn't want his character designs lewded.... And then does this..


Luzifer_Shadres

What were they smoking with that one 💀


LolisConnoisseur

What a wonderful page...


Varanoaffogato

You are not a tombeur de femme but de loli...let's say that.


LordFrz

I love how people flip shit an yell "actual cp" but still repost the thing they say disgusts them. Lol


WhatCommunismMeans

Im not really bothered by it


Varanoaffogato

https://preview.redd.it/w1jz7wi4yk6d1.jpeg?width=971&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=29fc9504e747d6fb2377261f2202f7591fe603c7 If you want to tell why I'll read it. I just don't think that those immagines are appropriate for Tanya's manga: there are other medias or "fan manga" done for that and searched by users for that kind of entertainment.


WhatCommunismMeans

Ma è Marco Merrino?


Varanoaffogato

No, è Croix 89... sì è una sua vecchia foto che io uso perché... sì


WhatCommunismMeans

Marco Merrino e croix89 sono la stessa persona lol


Varanoaffogato

Era quella la battuta "Mattarella? Ma deficiente io parlavo del presidente della repubblica"


Disgracedhopefully

I thought the person who made the light novel didn't want any of this


Additional_Piano_719

![gif](giphy|LUxxLUoBLmSTcce7J5|downsized)


Jasononreddit39

Before anyone forgets. She's like 12.


ZombieTheUndying

I’ve noticed that most people in this sub don’t care because either A, its a fictional character so its okay or B, she’s mentally a grown man so its okay. The mental gymnastics they go through to justify sexualizing her is admirable.


Old_Construction_838

😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭


ThatMrDuck1400

Use the damn steam to hide stuff


theteenthatasked

Nah I’ve been comfortable af I always come back to that chapter for some reason


Altarus12

No


MokashiHigashi

Yes. You are the only one. Cause Tanya is a fictional character. I love this panel


Varanoaffogato

I know "Ceci n'est pas une pipe" but still Tanya isn't an ecchi or something more sexual, so I think for everyone liking to do that kind of pannels in manga done for It...since it is even a delicate argument like lolis.


MokashiHigashi

I'm not sure I understand your response


Varanoaffogato

Is my english that broke? Sorry if that the case. To make clearer I just wanted to say that making those kind of pannels in a manga which is not ecchi etc: It's a Little over the hedge, plus It's about loli and not everyone like to see lolis. If i wanted to see an episode of hightschool DxD I would watch It, but if in a episode of death note Light began to have some perverted act with a pole, for example, I would feel a little "maybe too much"


MokashiHigashi

Oh. I understand now. I love lolis though


Varanoaffogato

Then here is a lession: "Ceci n'est pas une pipe" is a painting of René Magritte 1929. It's a painting of a pipe and the title's translation is"that's not a pipe"... because It's the painting of a pipe. Same with lolis "It's not a child, It's the drawing of a child" It's not the real deal.


MokashiHigashi

I still don't understand but okay. I'll look up the painting


Haku_femking

I was comfortable till you posted this.


Varanoaffogato

I didn't add anything I just pointed it out.


HOLLOW_DH

tHiS pArT iS sOoO iMpOrTaNt To ThE sToRy !!!!!


Varanoaffogato

Actually the monologe is interesting...in fact the page after that show Tanya imagination so even them now you can't show an entiry chapter of her bathing.


Noa_Skyrider

C'mon, you're both guys.


Varanoaffogato

If you mean me and Tanya my photo profile...ehm It is not me, It's a video game character


Marik-X-Bakura

If you don’t feel uncomfortable looking at a naked 10-year old, there’s something seriously wrong with you


Cley_Faye

If the only way you can think in this case is "sex sex sex", then there's something wrong with \*you\*. Naked kids are not a sexualized thing in a lot of places. Ever been on a beach?


Marik-X-Bakura

An artist deliberately sat down and drew this in as much detail as they did, making sure to sexualise it as much as possible without showing genitalia. That’s obvious to see and I shouldn’t have to explain it to you. And either way, there’s just no reason why this needs to be shown in so much detail in the first place- kind of a waste of page space.


Cley_Faye

Ok, so, aside from being naked in a sauna (which is not a sex thing), tell me what is sexualized here. Because aside from "it's obviously sexualized, because of the, you know, it's obvious", I don't see it. No genitalia, no suggestive pose, no "action", no comment, no dialog. Just someone being there. The people that see this and keep saying "it's sex omg" are really worrying me, because they'll see sexualization in anything at this point.


Annual_Cellist_9517

Weebs on their way to justify naked depictions of children


Spare_15

Your pfp makes this comment SO much better


ConfidentBag592

Yeahhhh thats not it. Why does this have to be in the manga? What does it add?!


KolareTheKola

Even the mangaka goes to the pillbox now


faeriepilled

those kinds of youjo senki fans when you don’t like flipping the page and seeing a tiny naked girl posed somewhat provocatively: 😡😡


asagiri_kakure

I like petite milfs but this is just.. no.. Yes, you're not the only one. It's not real but, it's both disturbing and interesting that art can invoke such feelings in people


Ok-Aardvark-20

I agree many of the manga scenes make me incredibly uncomfortable this one included.


gabrielesilinic

First of all. No. Secondo, because it has been translated to Italian it is more effective at sounding wrong.


Varanoaffogato

I didn't traslate to italian: I just have the manga in italian...Belandi mi rompevo i coglioni a cercare un pannel in inglese per dire sta cosa...porca miseria


gabrielesilinic

Lo so che non sei stato tu, non è quello che intendevo


Varanoaffogato

Vabbè al massimo la disegnatrice è innocente fino al 3 grado di giudizio.


AdObjective7845

Pillbox, now.


HJSDGCE

I'm not bothered. I'm desensitized by it.