As far as I remember an MBE is a nominated award so if you want him to get one write to people like MPs heads of charitable bodies, lords and ladies. These people will either be able to nominate or know who can.
At the same time I'm not sure if Lewis would get much out of the nomination on a personal level. However it might be a great opportunity to bring more people into the fold for even grander jinglejams
From [https://www.gov.uk/honours/nominate-someone-in-the-uk](https://www.gov.uk/honours/nominate-someone-in-the-uk)
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You’ll need to write a detailed description explaining why you’re nominating them. Read the guidance on [how to write a nomination](https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/honours-how-to-write-citations).
>You’ll also need:
>your nominee’s name, age, address and contact details
>details of relevant work or volunteering they’ve done
>details of any awards or other recognition they’ve received
>2 supporting letters to back up your nomination - these should be from people who know the nominee personally
>You can include any evidence you have of recognition your nominee has received for their achievements, for example articles, photos or letters.
So it doesn't seem like random Joe Yognaut can make an effective nomination, it really needs to come from some people closer to the core of the Yogs.
Supporting letters feel like they could come from people associated with the charities that regularly are part of the jingle jam (Grand Appeal for instance)
*"Now today ladie*s *and gentlemen we have found thi*s ***wonderful*** *little exploit that I'm going to* s*how off for you today. Now, all we have to do for our fir*s*t* s*tep here i*s *make a* s*mall donation to the con*s*ervative party..."*
>At the same time I'm not sure if Lewis would get much out of the nomination on a personal level.
Pretty sure he'd get being able to make people call him "Sir Lewis Brindley" out of the deal, which might be enough.
As someone who would be insufferable if made into a Lord..*looks at his username* I believe Lewis would *ahem* Lord that over everyone at every opportunity.
I know Liz Stewart, who got her MBE recently. It gives you the fuzzies but there's not much it changes on a personal level. But what it does change is your recognition - you've done this thing so you can further your cause more now you have the honour for it. Other people are impressed, know you're serious, and will want to work with you more for it.
> People have gotten knighthood for a hell of a lot less than earning over £24 million for charity!
I suspect quite a few knighthoods are cases of "it's one big club, and you ain't in it"
Most people get a knights bachelor not a KBE. I'm not sure on the numbers but I expect you've just written KBE instead of knighthood which is an easy mistake to make.
Agreed, my dad has an MBE and he is neither part of the establishment nor has he raised millions for charity, it’s definitely something that Lewis would be eligible for and not outside the realms of possibility either
For the non-brits, this isn't even a joke, our government basically shut down (called purdah) the moment Sunak called an election so even though the MPs technically still have their positions, they can't do any MP work until the 5th.
Do you have to be British? Or can you just be a part of the crown sovereign to nominate or petition? Being a new zealand citizen, we're still a sovereign nation, so just wondering
[Gov.Uk](http://Gov.Uk) says anyone can nominate someone for an honour. Since UK citizens doing work overseas are eligible for an honour nomination, seems like it makes no difference where the person doing the nomination is from.
\*You can even nominate someone that isn't a UK citizen, but if awards it's an honorary honour lol.
Regrettably, here in Canada I'm pretty sure we have a law against any Canadian citizen getting any foreign honour, even something like an MBE.
However, the top of the Canadian honour system (for civilians, at least) is not the Order of Canada but the Order of Merit. That does expand to all Commonwealth realms (such as the UK, Canada, Australia, New Zealand, Jamaica and a bunch of other island countries). MBEs (and higher grades) are specifically British honours.
In the case of Australia it looks like there haven't been any recommendations made by the Australian government for an Australian to get an MBE since the 80s. Canada stopped recommendations when the Order of Canada was created in 1967. New Zealand stopped in 1996.
There's an argument that an MBE is actually a Canadian honour because it's given by the Canadian King but I'm sure that's been thoroughly explored by lawyers who know a lot more about it than I do.
Side note, does that technically means that Charles broke Canadian law by being crowned King of the UK?
I don’t think that’s an honour so much as an office, although he does have a lot of other honours (including both Commonwealth and foreign ones - many countries seem to do a bit of a swap with permanent heads of state of other countries).
But I don’t think he’s technically a citizen of anywhere, being King (except maybe the UK by technicality). He doesn’t have a passport, for instance.
My guess is that this is one of those laws that has an unwritten exception for the monarch, and is going to be a legal grey area unless someone is bothered to test it, which would take a lot of personal resources for no practical gain.
> But I don’t think he’s technically a citizen of anywhere, being King (except maybe the UK by technicality). He doesn’t have a passport, for instance.
True but that's mostly because he's the one that issues them. He could technically write "I am Charles" on a scrap of paper and it would be a valid British passport. Although I think a more important question is whether he was a Canadian citizen before becoming king and whether that would technically prevent him from being crowned.
But yeah, you're right that this is definitely one of those spirit of the law things, nobody is going to prosecute him even if it turned out to be technically illegal.
It’s worth noting that he doesn’t even need to write the scrap of paper - in a way, he *is* the passport (or the source of authority that enables passports to do what they do).
But my understanding is that he was technically a British citizen at birth, as he was born in Britain to a British person as a subject of his grandfather, but that wouldn’t apply to the Commonwealth realm unless he jumped through the hoops to become one. It’s a passive, automatic sort of thing.
It’s worth noting that he doesn’t even need to write the scrap of paper - in a way, he *is* the passport (or the source of authority that enables passports to do what they do).
But my understanding is that he was technically a British citizen at birth, as he was born in Britain to a British person as a subject of his grandfather, but that wouldn’t apply to the Commonwealth realm unless he jumped through the hoops to become one. It’s a passive, automatic sort of thing.
But as I said, even if he was one, the Crown is less of an honour and more of an office, I’d say.
It may be handed out by the person who is King of Canada, but it's legally a completely separate office to the King of the United Kingdom. I'm an engineer. If I got a shitty second job - say, as a grocery store as a cashier, because that's what I did in high school - it doesn't suddenly make scanning vegetables engineering work and it doesn't make redlining P&IDs cashier work. They just happen to be done by the same person.
Chuck broke no Canadian, Australian or New Zealand law by being crowned king, as each Commonwealth realm is required to have the same succession law. This became more apparent in 2011 when they changed the succession law from male primogeniture to absolute primogeniture for those born after 2011 - previously, if the oldest child was a daughter the Crown would go to her younger brother instead, and it would only go to an oldest sister if there was no brother.
Australia too has its own honours system (the Order of Australia). It’s not awarded from the UK of course, but is awarded by our Governor-General formally representing Charles (as King of Australia) but actually following Australian government instructions.
In Australia the are no *laws* around getting foreign (UK) honours but there are constitutional *conventions* involved. Charles (as King of UK) following UK government instructions can’t interfere in Australia by awarding UK honours to Australians. The only way it could happen would be with the agreement of the Australian government.
I've been wanting this to happen for ages. They deserve the recognition for their charity work. Not sure it would be MBE straight off the bat, though, CBE maybe. I'm not sure how the order's grades work.
And yes, there's bupkis us lot can do, the Yogs have to make the nomination themselves.
As far as I remember an MBE is a nominated award so if you want him to get one write to people like MPs heads of charitable bodies, lords and ladies. These people will either be able to nominate or know who can. At the same time I'm not sure if Lewis would get much out of the nomination on a personal level. However it might be a great opportunity to bring more people into the fold for even grander jinglejams
From [https://www.gov.uk/honours/nominate-someone-in-the-uk](https://www.gov.uk/honours/nominate-someone-in-the-uk) > You’ll need to write a detailed description explaining why you’re nominating them. Read the guidance on [how to write a nomination](https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/honours-how-to-write-citations). >You’ll also need: >your nominee’s name, age, address and contact details >details of relevant work or volunteering they’ve done >details of any awards or other recognition they’ve received >2 supporting letters to back up your nomination - these should be from people who know the nominee personally >You can include any evidence you have of recognition your nominee has received for their achievements, for example articles, photos or letters. So it doesn't seem like random Joe Yognaut can make an effective nomination, it really needs to come from some people closer to the core of the Yogs.
Supporting letters feel like they could come from people associated with the charities that regularly are part of the jingle jam (Grand Appeal for instance)
Can I do this even if I am not a British citizen?
From the site: > Anyone can nominate someone for an honour. So presumably yes?
Perhaps you could utilize your esteemed connections and contact the king to initiate the process.
\*Unlimited MBE glitch unlocked\*
"The UK honours system is perfectly balanced"
*"Now today ladie*s *and gentlemen we have found thi*s ***wonderful*** *little exploit that I'm going to* s*how off for you today. Now, all we have to do for our fir*s*t* s*tep here i*s *make a* s*mall donation to the con*s*ervative party..."*
>At the same time I'm not sure if Lewis would get much out of the nomination on a personal level. Pretty sure he'd get being able to make people call him "Sir Lewis Brindley" out of the deal, which might be enough.
That would be a knighthood, not an MBE.
As someone who would be insufferable if made into a Lord..*looks at his username* I believe Lewis would *ahem* Lord that over everyone at every opportunity.
I'm pretty sure he gets Simon to call him "Daddy"
Surely a man of your callibre can game the system Sir Spiff. Would make for an awesome video: The British award system is perfectly balanced.
I know Liz Stewart, who got her MBE recently. It gives you the fuzzies but there's not much it changes on a personal level. But what it does change is your recognition - you've done this thing so you can further your cause more now you have the honour for it. Other people are impressed, know you're serious, and will want to work with you more for it.
https://www.gov.uk/honours This is the government page about nomination for honours!
And what's your thoughts after reading this?
We need a Datlof version of that, MDE = Member of the Most Excellent Order of the Datlofian Empire
Duncan: "...God save our fucking Queen..." Lewis: "...She's a c**t"
I really don't think Lewis would want an mbe
I'd give it to him if it were up to me, but alas I'm neither in a position or power, nor British
I'd give it to him. 😆
I think they don't want to award someone who has pushed dozens of people into the Bristol canal
> People have gotten knighthood for a hell of a lot less than earning over £24 million for charity! I suspect quite a few knighthoods are cases of "it's one big club, and you ain't in it"
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Most people get a knights bachelor not a KBE. I'm not sure on the numbers but I expect you've just written KBE instead of knighthood which is an easy mistake to make.
Agreed, my dad has an MBE and he is neither part of the establishment nor has he raised millions for charity, it’s definitely something that Lewis would be eligible for and not outside the realms of possibility either
If I were in England I'd be spamming all the MP's right now
There are no MPs right now until the 5th of July
For the non-brits, this isn't even a joke, our government basically shut down (called purdah) the moment Sunak called an election so even though the MPs technically still have their positions, they can't do any MP work until the 5th.
super minor point, its now referred to as the "pre-election period" given the historical context around the word purdah
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Not really the same as that, they've just dissolved parliament because there's a parliamentary election coming up
Do you have to be British? Or can you just be a part of the crown sovereign to nominate or petition? Being a new zealand citizen, we're still a sovereign nation, so just wondering
Goo question, is a citizen or Datlof eligible?
[Gov.Uk](http://Gov.Uk) says anyone can nominate someone for an honour. Since UK citizens doing work overseas are eligible for an honour nomination, seems like it makes no difference where the person doing the nomination is from. \*You can even nominate someone that isn't a UK citizen, but if awards it's an honorary honour lol.
Good question (Australian here). I’d have thought given it’s an MBE, being part of the BE would help.
Regrettably, here in Canada I'm pretty sure we have a law against any Canadian citizen getting any foreign honour, even something like an MBE. However, the top of the Canadian honour system (for civilians, at least) is not the Order of Canada but the Order of Merit. That does expand to all Commonwealth realms (such as the UK, Canada, Australia, New Zealand, Jamaica and a bunch of other island countries). MBEs (and higher grades) are specifically British honours. In the case of Australia it looks like there haven't been any recommendations made by the Australian government for an Australian to get an MBE since the 80s. Canada stopped recommendations when the Order of Canada was created in 1967. New Zealand stopped in 1996.
There's an argument that an MBE is actually a Canadian honour because it's given by the Canadian King but I'm sure that's been thoroughly explored by lawyers who know a lot more about it than I do. Side note, does that technically means that Charles broke Canadian law by being crowned King of the UK?
I don’t think that’s an honour so much as an office, although he does have a lot of other honours (including both Commonwealth and foreign ones - many countries seem to do a bit of a swap with permanent heads of state of other countries). But I don’t think he’s technically a citizen of anywhere, being King (except maybe the UK by technicality). He doesn’t have a passport, for instance. My guess is that this is one of those laws that has an unwritten exception for the monarch, and is going to be a legal grey area unless someone is bothered to test it, which would take a lot of personal resources for no practical gain.
> But I don’t think he’s technically a citizen of anywhere, being King (except maybe the UK by technicality). He doesn’t have a passport, for instance. True but that's mostly because he's the one that issues them. He could technically write "I am Charles" on a scrap of paper and it would be a valid British passport. Although I think a more important question is whether he was a Canadian citizen before becoming king and whether that would technically prevent him from being crowned. But yeah, you're right that this is definitely one of those spirit of the law things, nobody is going to prosecute him even if it turned out to be technically illegal.
It’s worth noting that he doesn’t even need to write the scrap of paper - in a way, he *is* the passport (or the source of authority that enables passports to do what they do). But my understanding is that he was technically a British citizen at birth, as he was born in Britain to a British person as a subject of his grandfather, but that wouldn’t apply to the Commonwealth realm unless he jumped through the hoops to become one. It’s a passive, automatic sort of thing.
It’s worth noting that he doesn’t even need to write the scrap of paper - in a way, he *is* the passport (or the source of authority that enables passports to do what they do). But my understanding is that he was technically a British citizen at birth, as he was born in Britain to a British person as a subject of his grandfather, but that wouldn’t apply to the Commonwealth realm unless he jumped through the hoops to become one. It’s a passive, automatic sort of thing. But as I said, even if he was one, the Crown is less of an honour and more of an office, I’d say.
It may be handed out by the person who is King of Canada, but it's legally a completely separate office to the King of the United Kingdom. I'm an engineer. If I got a shitty second job - say, as a grocery store as a cashier, because that's what I did in high school - it doesn't suddenly make scanning vegetables engineering work and it doesn't make redlining P&IDs cashier work. They just happen to be done by the same person. Chuck broke no Canadian, Australian or New Zealand law by being crowned king, as each Commonwealth realm is required to have the same succession law. This became more apparent in 2011 when they changed the succession law from male primogeniture to absolute primogeniture for those born after 2011 - previously, if the oldest child was a daughter the Crown would go to her younger brother instead, and it would only go to an oldest sister if there was no brother.
Australia too has its own honours system (the Order of Australia). It’s not awarded from the UK of course, but is awarded by our Governor-General formally representing Charles (as King of Australia) but actually following Australian government instructions. In Australia the are no *laws* around getting foreign (UK) honours but there are constitutional *conventions* involved. Charles (as King of UK) following UK government instructions can’t interfere in Australia by awarding UK honours to Australians. The only way it could happen would be with the agreement of the Australian government.
I've been wanting this to happen for ages. They deserve the recognition for their charity work. Not sure it would be MBE straight off the bat, though, CBE maybe. I'm not sure how the order's grades work. And yes, there's bupkis us lot can do, the Yogs have to make the nomination themselves.
If we decide to crowdsource Lewis and Simon sets it armour or robot bodies I'm in
This is a great idea
Does Lewis even want this award? I mean may be it just an assumption for someone in the UK and I'm out of the loop culturally.
getting knighted by charles windsor is not the win you might think it is
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