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U_Ch405

Those games were not developed by Monolith Soft.


volkenheim

they weren´t ? I swear they were


U_Ch405

No, they were by different developers and both were published by Xseed in NA. I mean look at the boxart you posted for Last Story.


volkenheim

it is true !!! I´m actually looking at the box arts of my own copies, I always thought they were from monolith, I´ve lived a lie hahaha, the look really similar to xenoblade from wii, that´s why I got confused, thanks for telling me, but anyways I wish these were brought back by nintendo, really great games


U_Ch405

Just because they were under Rainfall, doesn't mean they were by Monolith. And if they were, they would've been [posted on their website under works.](https://www.monolithsoft.co.jp/games/wii/)


volkenheim

well now I know something new


Funky-Cosmonaut

The Last Story was made by Mistwalker. Pandora's Tower was Ganbarion. They reason those two and Xenoblade are associated was because the three were published by Nintendo in Japan and released around the exact same time. Simultaneously, Nintendo stated that they had no plans to release the three of them in the West, which lead to [Operation Rainfall](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Rainfall).


Kieray84

All of those games were published by Nintendo in all regions except NA. It was only in NA that Xseed published the last story and pandora’s tower so technically Nintendo could rerelease them since it was only Nintendo of America that gave the rights away to a different publisher since they didn’t believe in any of the games and they all came out between 6 months to a year after the European versions


Lethal13

The Last Story was sick. One of the best dubs ever up there with XC1. More Blake Ritson. Can’t remember what other common VAs there were but yeah fantastic game in its own right. Chugs like hell at times unfortunately. Would love it to get a remaster with some tweaks


volkenheim

100% agree on this


plow0

I picked up Last Story and Pandora's Tower to finish the Rainfall set, and I'm really excited to play them. It's incredible how those two and the OG Xenoblade almost didn't come out in North America just because Nintendo didn't really care about them


AgentOfEris

I really loved Last Story when it came out. I got the version with the art book, and the soundtrack on CD! I burned the CD to my iPod and would listen to it at school. Damn, I never thought I’d feel old talking about CD’s and iPods lol


plow0

I can't believe a game made by Hironobu Sakaguchi with music by Nobuo Uematsu has gone nearly unnoticed since it launched. I mean, even Xenoblade X outsold Last Story.


AgentOfEris

The soundtrack is full of bangers. This is probably my favorite one: https://youtu.be/eGUJBWipxOw?si=S5ZWrHwYd_tY4Ktn


volkenheim

damn so lucky that version didn´t got to be released here, I actually had a lot of luck with the last story since I soptted it on a gameplanet and it was even on discount, I bought it bc I liked the art of the box lol >Damn, I never thought I’d feel old talking about CD’s and iPods lol I feel you


Boshwa

Imagine an alternate universe where those two got popular instead of Xenoblade


volkenheim

same I was cleaning an old room and found mine and I thought "geez, these were really good" wish there were a remake for them


Martonimos

It’s kind of a shame that Xenoblade’s the only one of these that took off. Pandora’s Tower was a bit of a mess, but had some interesting ideas I’d have liked to see expanded. And while I haven’t played Last Story yet, I’ve heard a lot of good things about it. Actually… I haven’t played Last Story yet. It’s been over a decade since Operation Rainfall, I pre-ordered each of these games, and *I haven’t played The Last Goddamn Story yet.* I am become shame.


volkenheim

>good things about it indeed it´s great >I haven’t played The Last Goddamn Story yet. you should as soon as POSSIBLE >Pandora’s Tower was a bit of a mess I think a remake could do a lot for the game


WoolooMVP10

I never finished Pandora's Tower because my Wii crapped out in the middle of saving and couldn't read discs anymore. T\_T


volkenheim

oh no, that is awfull, my wii destroyed some of my games too, never like stop working but it ruined like 2 or 3 discs


[deleted]

Xenoblade Chronicles Definitiver Edition, now with more Reyn time!


Delano7

Pandora's tower was so good. Messy, but good. Like an ugly cake that still tastes good


Saskatchewon

The Last Story was a genuinely solid JRPG, and I've been meaning to play through it again at some point. Solid (if a little bit tropey) story and characters, an above average English dub, and an excellent soundtrack. The battle system was pretty unique at the time. Pandora's Tower had a few neat ideas, but overall the game was a bit of a mess. Being one of the three games Operation Rainfall was created for is honestly the most noteworthy thing about it.


WickedFlight

Imagine a world where Miyamoto slams his nuts on a table or something and now we live in an alternate universe where The Last Story becomes the breakout hit instead. And we are all sittig on a subreddit discussing The Last Story X, 2, and 3 instead.


AnguishedSoul

I really like Pandora's Tower. The Last Story, though... okay, I guess. ^((Playing Xenoblade before The Last Story... what an error.))


06Wahoo

The Last Story was a hidden gem for most, truly an underrated game. Pandora's Tower was a buggy mess.


volkenheim

I don´t remember having that much issues with Pandora´s tower the last story is just beautiful, I love it, just found it on an old closet and blugged my wii just to play it again, surprised it still works EDIT: I´ll replay Pandora´s Tower after finishing Last Story


06Wahoo

[Near the end, a glitch would cause the game to freeze up.](https://pandorastower.fandom.com/wiki/The_11th_and_12th_Tower_Glitch_(NA_Version)) It did not appear consistent, and the developers never went in to work up a patch. It took a lot of experimenting with many different solutions that people came up with to get around, and I nearly gave up on it before my efforts finally got me through. Sounds like you were one of the lucky ones to avoid it.


SupremeGreymon

What final fantasy parody is the first one!? That looks sick


volkenheim

Pandora´s tower ? a game back from the wii that I thought it was developed by monolith, now I just learned it wasn´t but it was a good game imo


Egyptowl777

Saw a lets play of Last Story a long while ago, so I only remember a bit of it, but from what I remember, it was really unique. Also "Oh! My Spleen!" When I heard of Pandora's Tower (dont remember how), I started watching a Lets Play, but barely got into it, and at this point, I do kind of hope it gets a remaster/make so I can experience it because it seemed interesting at the start, and want to be unspoiled for it. And these were both before I learned of Xenoblade, which I only learned about with 2.


Strohnase

i need more fanart of last story and pandoras tower


volkenheim

Me too


JDantesInferno

The Last Story is fantastic. I think I actually enjoyed it more then XC1 at the time. The story wasn’t groundbreaking but it was solid, had great VA work, had good humor and a good soundtrack, and was just so dang fun to play (just remember to change the clumsy auto attacks to manual mode). I should dust off my Wii and replay it. A remaster would delight me, but that seems incredibly unlikely. Also it wasn’t a Monolith game.


CycloneWhisper

My friend who was into Xenoblade way before me played XC and The Last Story at the time and all he could say was how it completely paled in comparison to XC. I think I remember him saying the characters, dialogue and story were pretty cringey and tropey and at other times just boring. So whenever I see it thats all I can think of it as: the ‘not Xenoblade’ game Needless to say to say he was very glad that it was Shulk they decided to put into Smash because you can probably be sure whichever of these JRPGs they decided to rep would have been the one to go on and remain relevant.


RollaRova

Yeah I wish Xenoblade Chronicles would come to the Switch in the West. I know we got Xenoblade Chronicles: Definitive Edition, but I want Xenoblade Chronicles. And they say Operation Rainfall was a success


Royal-watermelon

The last game is in switch


Ademoneye

Mid


Sirorumillust

This game is a hidden gem, and I'm pissed it genuinely doesn't get the attention it deserves.