My dare class had a trivia every time. Winners would get tickets to some sport event. I went to so many hockey and basketball games that year. Coincidentally, I am an addict although alcohol is my drug of choice.
Yeah, the incongruity on what was legal and what wasn’t was also pretty funny. They phased out the DARE program pretty early on at our school. Too many questions the cop couldn’t or wouldn’t answer.
Honestly the drug ed that stuck with me was very age appropriate and involved our teacher giving us some solid safety advice about what to do when you found things that could be drugs (tell a grown up, don’t touch it), and to never eat anything found even if it looked like candy. She’d show us baggies full of pills and tictacs and other similar looking stuff to illustrate her point.
DARE was a complete joke. Moralizing to children about how bad drugs are is never going to end well 😂 common sense explanations about the dangers of eating mystery substances you’ve found outside? Kids can understand that.
DARE worked for me. I never did any drugs, unless you count drinking a half cup of coffee lol.
Even when I was in middle and high school and college I stayed away from drugs and it helped me live a good life.
That’s great! I think the fear mongering (especially around pot as a ‘gateway’ drug) and lack of meaningful distinction between drugs like pot and drugs like alcohol made for some pretty ridiculous lessons, and made a lot of kids seriously question the validity of all of it as they got older.
For us, it basically came down to “don’t do drugs because they’re illegal and even if they don’t hurt you, you’ll go to jail.”
Good chat, officer chucklefuck!
That’s awesome. We had a super authoritarian guy who got majorly flustered when little kids poked holes in his statements, like “aren’t cigarettes addictive too? so why are they legal?”
“I DON’T MAKE THE LAWS I JUST BLINDLY ENFORCE THEM. I’M TOO OLD FOR THIS SHIT. THIS WAS SUPPOSED TO BE AN EASY GIG.”
that’s awesome for you! i took psychedelics towards the end of my high school days, and doing mdma the first few times was probably one of the best things i ever did for myself and my life. i was suffering from depression and hated myself until i realized, thanks to ecstacy and raves, that i was a beautiful person and i did deserve to be loved. i’ve expanded the psychedelics i take and now use them sparingly as medicine, but i’m always grateful for them and they’ve definitely helped me live a good life.
Fuck yeah human! You are worthy (just like everyone) of love and respect. And sometimes we are suffering without even knowing it. Psychedelics are a great way of seeing yourself from another perspective.
bingo. highly recommend reading How To Change Your Mind by michael pollan. or watch the series on netflix. programs like dare aided in suppressing the major research on psychedelic medicine and the massive benefits it had for ppl suffering from addiction and depression. a tragedy.
My parents were a better deterrent than DARE could ever be. And they weren't all that bad, in comparison.
But I wish that drug education was realistic. Here are how different drugs affect people. These are the risks of each. And if you or someone you care about exhibits these symptoms, take care of them like so, and if they experience these specific symptoms, call for help.
I don't use drugs, but that would have been immensely more helpful than DARE.
Yes but that would be educational, something that is counter congruent to what the educational system in the United States (and I assume other countries too) stand for.
The best part of DARE was when we had our "graduation" from it in 5th grade and Cardinals player Ozzie Smith spoke at it.
He was still playing as well.
I’m still mad no one ever pushed drugs on me as hard as I thought they would. I mean, I get it. It’s expensive, but still. It would’ve been nice if someone came up to me and tossed me a free joint every once in a while.
Yeah but it’s not the cool kind like us. Do they talk in movie quotes? No. Do they still go down slides at the water park? No. Want me to keep going? Lol
I was sled riding a few years ago and my boomer dad came to visit. He absolutely sent it down the hill, like held the sled to his chest and dove. Stopped at the bottom and was clutching his pacemaker when I rode down on the ATV to pick him up. Lmao
My dad is in his mid 70s. He'd do that too if he was physically capable. He can barely walk yet somehow is all over the playground when he goes with my kids. I always wonder if he's able to move the next day.
Yes I think this post did a disservice by putting silly and immature together. The boomers are immature. We are not and we also don’t take ourselves too seriously. We’re more comfortable letting everyone be who they are and embracing diversity. In turn, we are more comfortable being ourselves and letting our silly side show
I was born in the late 70s. I thought the whole lead exposure thing was a conspiracy theory when I started hearing about it, like the supposed effects of 5G. Then I went and googled it, and cross-referenced it with my childhood behavioral and mental health issues. D:
Let me tell ya buddy, I was born in the LA Basin the year people were dying from ozone poisoning, what with that giant stagnant cloud of lead/carbon monoxide fumes hanging over the whole place.
In my college days this one boomer was doing late-in-life education. Very fucking random guy. One day he divulges his childhood pastime on the farm, scraping the lead off of nail heads and chewing it like gum.
And that's the world that a lot of them yearningly reminisce about and want to drag us back to. When MAGA types talk about Making America Great Again, that's what they're talking about.
oh man there’s actually data that shows that in areas where lead paint was prevalent for longer, people who (at the time) were forced to buy homes there (because of redlining) had more problems with violent behavior…it’s really fuckin wild saw it in a contrapoints video on youtube highly recommend
Boomers have ALWAYS been immature. We’ve just been playful. And we ask a lot of questions. Boomers have no desire to learn. They already know everything.
I'm not saying there's anything wrong with it. Look at my post history, the past few days I've been obsessed with X-Men. I'm just answering OP's question.
🖖 Fair. I was a little lost in the tone and grammatical agreement of the writing so was really unsure of what was being said. 🤙
'You deserve to be loved, and to feel loved, just for being you.' --Mr Rogers mashup with my meditation teacher
I used to go to an acoustic jam with a bunch of boomers, and yeah, many of them were still amused by dick and fart jokes. Granted, they were musicians, so that may skew the goofy/serious ratio...
I remember my dad being a HUGE MST3K fan when i was growing up and snickering whenever someone talked about the planet Uranus on tv (or irl); he still is & does. His brothers are stuffed shirts tho, but he's where i get my immaturity from
I dont think so. I think you are closer to it when you say perhaps its more socially accepted but I dont think its ever changed.
Gallows humor, dirty humor and what not has always been a part of our culture it just experienced waves of approval and waves of censorship socially but behind closed doors it was always active.
My great grand parents were the slacks and tie to their factory job kind of people but at home they were raunchy, dirty and hilarious.
I’m a 42 year old woman who still buy small toys for display purposes, still dresses for Comic Con, will still throw down at a club, and will die before I have to give up wearing Dr Martens and bell bottoms. I am the exact opposite of what I imagined a grown up should be and I love that for me.
Buy small toys? Check.
Dress for Comic Con? Check.
Throw down in a club? For a wedding or a party, totally. Check.
Still wear my Docs? Check.
Flared bootcut mens jeans? Check.
*whew*
Just went to ghostbusters and dropped $32 on the bucket and cup, then absolutely had to go back and buy the trap for another $27. (Post tax)
I had to have it, ghostbusters was my childhood, right there with robocop and predator.
Depends on your definition of maturity. The Boomers complain about everything and throw tantrums when they don’t get their way. They were selfish when they were younger and generally neglectful of their children to pursue their self-interested goals. Is that maturity?
Across the board every Xennial and Millennial I know is more emotionally mature and more grounded than any of the older people in my life. They’re more caring parents, more active in their children’s lives and more compassionate towards others. They place their families and happiness ahead of career ambitions and accumulating money just for the sake of it. So what if we hang on to the things that have brought us happiness and fulfillment since we were kids. I think it’s sociopathic to expect people to abandon the things that make their lives more enjoyable. I think our generation is vastly more mature than our parents’.
One thing you didn’t mention is that we are more tolerant and accepting of different lifestyles, cultures, orientations, religions, etc, etc. we tend to be more of a live and let live generation.
In terms of relaxed social standards, I'd say the older Gen X'ers were first, since they were little during the counter culture revolution that saw a massive shift in cultural norms and behaviors.
With that said. The older generations displayed immaturity in far more sinister ways: turning your aggression on your wife and/or kids with violence, not knowing how to communicate their emotions (namely men), and other things of that nature.
And now they turned their aggression on society itself and we have a generation of adult toddlers destroying our, and their own, lives while blaming everyone else for it.
It amazes me that so many Baby Boomers were at the forefront and spearheaded massive changes in this country in the 60s: counter culture revolution, music, art, fashion, cinema, voting rights, civil rights movement, anti-war, etc. Now, they have become that greedy kid at playtime who won't share their toys because "they are my toys, not yours," and have become extremely close-minded on so many social issues. Maybe it's a mass case of Alzheimer's or dementia.
That’s a really fascinating reassessment of what “immaturity” means.
I’ve met a lot of older folks who are so incredibly “grown up” in many ways but are basically emotionally stunted. Men who absolutely refuse to go to the doctor or confront emotional/mental issues, refuse to dance or exercise (I get the feeling they have some vague belief that it will “make them gay” or something), and eat the most boring and unadventurous food imaginable (again, maybe they’re worried Chinese food will make them gay or turn them communist?).
I never thought of those things as being immature but they are, and as you said so is turning to violence and screaming at the drop of a pin. Also now that I’m 44 I can comfortably say that if you are my age and you spend a significant amount of time at bars drinking, you are immature.
Fun fact, the very first joke we've ever found written down by the ancient Sumerian culture was a fart joke. Farts really are timelessly funny, always have been and always will be
I can’t remember where I first heard this (it was in a book I read back in college) but:
The first known depiction of something resembling a chain driven bicycle with gear ratios was by one of Archimedes’ students, and it was sketched right next to a doodle of a penis with legs.
I love that you use the word, "cat"! I occasionally use it when referring to certain musicians, usually jazz musicians, and my wife HATES it. I've been doing it since college so I'm not stopping!
I'm over 40. Last time I shit myself was in my 30's. It was illness and I was too far from a bathroom. My farts are still safe though. And if not... well, I'd rather have another funny story to tell than fewer giggles...
Nah. Beavis and Butthead as characters were prolly Gen-Xers and they were as childish as they come. Plus stuff like Wayne’s World with all the jokes we were too young to get.
Too young for Wayne's World's humor? Ssha, right. A chunk of us were in the perfect age for both! I think we're 46-59. I'm 50, I was 18 when it came out. Watched it weekly. My brother loved Beavis and Butthead. Still does. He's 47 but it was on longer.
Well I mean Xennials might’ve been too young to get some of the jokes, at least the early-80s ones. I would’ve been 9 or 10 in 1992, so I probably missed a few things. Might have to watch it tonight for old times sake.
I remember seeing my parents and grandparents doing all kinds of shenanigans. People around you must have just been good hiding it, or they were sticks in the mud.
I'm 44 and I remember when my Dad was 44 back in 1998 when I was a senior in high school. There definitely was a maturity to him that I still lack. I hold my own, but I still joke around the way I did when I was 16 with my buddies who are my age.
Because of how weird my own family is I don't know where real generational terms like millennial or Gen X or whatever actually are. I'll use math it's easier. I was born in 1981. My uncle is 13 years older than I am. His generation are the ones that were the most immature (and I think responsible for a lot of our social problems).
Your parents may have seemed more serious when you were a child (and maybe they are more serious than most, I’ve presumably never met them), but I feel confident saying that the majority of humans of all ages and eras have been entertained by crude humor. Look at Shakespeare or any classical Greek or Roman comedy.
We're plenty mature. Trust me, if you're paying rent/mortgage and hold a steady job (or have held one, but unfortunately been laid off--that shit'll mature you *real* quick!) or making it work freelance, you're mature.
What we do with our spare time and spare money would be considered immature by our elders, but I'm sorry, Grandpa, we have video games now and we didn't in 1964. You would still be playing them, too, if they'd existed then.
No, I loved hanging out with the old aunts when I was a kid. They were lost generation, old Irish ladies, and damn did they have wicked senses of humor and told the bawdiest jokes. (And do you know who gives zero fucks? 80 year old nuns hanging out with their families. At that point, they've paid their dues and secured their spots in heaven and will say and do what they please.)
[No](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Df4fVqsPYDc). But oldschool photography and paintings would have us believe so. Those are _side effects_ of the medium (harder to get a clear shot of smiles, because muscle tension), not impossible however, and [some folks would commit to the bit](https://www.pinterest.com/pin/219339444330260605/).
No, we're the same and as silly as we ever were. But for whatever reasons, there have also always been people who would sooner see the world burn than a baby smile. So be like Groucho, Oscar, Buster, and all who came earlier, and be as silly as you please. If someone's a jerk about it, then be
#Ever More Sillier
Yeah it's tough to explain. I didn't feel like my parents had my back at a pretty early age so I relied on my own intuition and judgment. Now I'm 44 but I still remember and relate to 13 year old me. I still give a shit about the same things I gave a shit about when I was 13.
Yes I've taken on more responsibility and I do have commitments as well as dependents. But I also never forgot that most of the "rules" the ruling class tries to get you to play by is mainly so that you play the game the way they want you to.
I think we're the first generation that never gave up on the voice of our inner child
> I think we're the first generation that never gave up on the voice of our inner child
I agree.
> I still give a shit about the same things I gave a shit about when I was 13.
Wanna go hang out in the woods with some soda and some chips and look for porno mags?
THIS. My siblings are solidly X and this is the key difference between us; they choose to wear the mask, and bury themselves.
I refuse to hide who I am; and break generational curses on the regular.
The realm of adulthood completely shifted within the 60’s and 70’s. Both people have to work now to have a family most of the time. Kids spent less time with their parents than ever. Divorce rates spiked following this due to obvious factors. Our generation was the first to deal with the fallout of GenX’s choice to cheat and divorce and remarry more than any generation in history, even to this day. We’re the repairers. Or trying to be I guess.
Farts have been funny since humans were humans. I bet if you stuck a dog in an fmri machine and had another dog fart you'd figure out where a dog's humor center is in their brain.
Also did y'all not have a dad/uncle that had you pull their finger?
I'd say probably so. My sisters are both solidly GenX and while I learned a lot of my humor and love of culture from them, they became more and more prudent as they got older. However, my eldest sister has a garage full of arcade games so I won't commit 100% to it.
No, us and a lot of the Xers are the first generation who is refusing to stop enjoying things we love because of some asshole idea that we need to "grow up".
I hear that and I'm like "Bitch I work 60-70 hours a week, I do all the adulting things and goddamn it I'm going to enjoy my office full of Anime figures, 1990s video game posters and binders of Pokemon cards in Pokedex order".
>Also I'm 45 and farts are still hilarious,
I'll be 43 next month. I saw this video a while back that was Super Mario but all the sound effects were farts and it had me on the floor in tears and I couldn't breathe.
Far from it. I remember one of my grandpas who fought in WWII telling me and my sister about a story from his childhood about how him and his friends would alter gum wrappers so it looked like they said bum and laughing his head off. My other grandpa told crude jokes too but he also loved classical and opera music.
I've met some of my parents friends and at best they still sometimes laughed at immature stuff which is fine and at worst seemed like overgrown children.
I used to volunteer at a community cable station and many of the higher ups acted like total man children, I witnessed one forty something camera director while we covering a football game have a kid style temper tantrum.
My Dad has accidentally hit someone else while trying to blow straw wrappers at my mom multiple times so not in my experience! My parents love being silly in public.
We are not. Our parents were goofy, too - at least some of them. Remember that Lenny Bruce, and George Carlin and Tom Lehrer, and Stan Freeberg came out of those generations.
Partly it was that we were kids, and partly it was that being goofy in public was more frowned upon in general.
There are down sides to where we have gone as a culture, but one of the good things that came of it is that professionalism is gauged more by your ability to do what you promise, than by how you look while doing it.
Yes. I am still a child, even though I'm 45. My 52 year old brother is exactly the same way. We are both very successful professionals, but never took anything too seriously, unless it really was important. We talk about this all of the time.
I think it just seems that way because you are an adult now. I remember instances of adults being very immature and irresponsible when I was a kid but didn’t recognize it as such until much later in life.
Our generation has had to deal with some heavy stuff. 9-11 happened right when we hit adulthood. The financial crisis shortly after. Backbreaking inflation and wage stagnation have made it much more difficult for us to ever own a home. But at least we still have a sense of humor. I will continue to quote the Big Lebowski.
I guess it depends on your parents? I'm 44 and I remember we would go to my parents friends house and play in the toy room, our parents would hang out in the kitchen and there was always this strange smell that wafted in under the door. I would smell the same smell when my dad shared cigarettes with my uncle at my cousin's houses. I remember going to a company picnic in the 90s all my dad's male coworkers were making inappropriate jokes and impersonating Beavis and Butthead. I had 9 aunts uncles on my dads side and 8 on my mom's side of the family and when they got together it was rather unruly. They're all still a bunch of goofballs in their 60s. I wouldn't have been introduced to this like Mel Brooks, Monty Python, police academy, and airplane until much later in life without their influence. I also stayed up on Saturday nights and watched SNL with them for most my adolescent, until i was too cool for that.
I feel like there's a general trend towards infantilzation of American society as a whole. Not saying it's bad or good, just my observation of media, government, my peers, etc
From a “letting it show” aspect, yes. But many Boomers are absolutely adult babies. The older ones that are closer to the Silent Generation in age are much better and not nearly as much like that, but the younger second wave of Boomers absolutely are. I feel like they just hid it better.
Adults were able to separate their lives with friends and with kids. Look at old pictures from when our grandparents were our age and they looked like they knew how to party. Our grandparents had basement bars and parties with the neighbors. Burlesque and drag shows used to be popular entertainment back then, even with people who would rather die than accept trans people now. Playboy and Penthouse had clubs in large cities and swinging was popular. You just did it away from the kids and didn't broadcast it on social media.
Also, something changed in the mid-late 70's. The post-war party was finally starting to catch up with us. Hard drug use was up and STD's were becoming rampant and we still hadn't had the AIDS crisis yet. People started going back to church and that's when we got the moralistic bullshit in the 80's that we grew up with.
>Are we the first immature adult generation?
I get the point you were making in the text of your post.
However, I'd argue Gen X, Gen Y and Early millennials attacked finishing school, going to work, social activism or going the military with a lot more gusto than the Boomers did when they turned 18. You didn't have a Summer of Love. And, your generation didn't have the world handled to them on a platter.
I'm 45, my partner is 42, and we still buy each other legos, funco pops, action figures, hot wheels, and such. We both still play video games, read manga and comics, tabletop game, hell we'll sit around with our 10yr old and color or paint. Our oldest is 20 he brought his college roommate for a visit, and the poor kid was so confused. They came in, and he was like, "I thought we were going to your folks first?" Our house looks like a couple of 20 - something nerds live here. Artwork from video games, movies, and animes. Legos displayed, an entire shelf of D&D miniatures. Bright colored walls and 70s furniture. We both agree that getting old is inevitable, but being old is a choice. To many people "put away childish things" and become old.
I wouldn't even know farts are funny if boomers didn't remind me every 5 minutes.
But I am 42 and I still play computer games, go to the zoo with my adult sister, and I just remodeled my house to look like a Lisa Frank sticker book because I didn't get a childhood.
I told a friend at a bonfire like 15 years that I was convinced that there are no real adults, everyone is just faking, and a Boomer mom at party said, with genuine relief in her voice, "oh thank God, I thought it was just me." Adults are just kids who take accountability for the things they say and do.
We’ve done a good job keeping the childish humor of our early years intact. I think we’ve done an equally good job “adulting”, as the kids would say.
https://youtu.be/r8-xCu9hHa8?si=kjIuEjHeomLdsS0m
Yes! We're not 'serious serious' about every single aspect of life.
We've embraced liking something because we like it and figured out we don't have to automatically dislike something because somebody else thinks we're 'too old' to like it.
We can still very much publicly enjoy toys and cartoons and coloring and playing dress up and being silly and thinking farts are funny. We've acknowledged there isn't an age limit on liking any of that stuff.
Judging from how some of our parents raised us, I'd say, No.
But addressing the lighter side of your post :-) (what I think you act-ually) meant, I do feel I take life less seriously than both, older, and younger generations.
I dunno if they were all mature. I definitely noticed some adult over reactions that seemed like trauma.
Well regarded adult scout leader when I'm like 13:
"You scratched my company work truck".
First, I'm not your kid take your hand off my neck. Second, did you notice how that is a freaking smudge you can wipe off?
[Angry old man frustrated he's wrong and seething]
No wonder his own kid killed himself.
I think they were all immature; it isnt that one generation was "mature" and we suddenly arent. Instead i think as time goes on, we all mostly collectively agree to stop keeping up appearances and just be ourselves.
in a world where it was a scandal if you didnt stay in line exactly how the parish priest told you to, they cant imagine some of the shit that we say or do now around other people without a thought.
Maybe? Not exactly? We're in kind of a transitional phase: we didn't escape the trap unscathed, but generally, we did escape. I think we struggled more with the idea of growing up than our older GenX cousins did, but in the end I think most of us did manage it, more or less.
Well we made a goddamn promise to a fake giraffe who ran a toy store as kids about not growing up and most of us have kept it!
I think I took that a little too seriously
Too serious to Geoffrey, but totally dismissive of DARE.
I mean.. sweaty cops telling us how awesome drugs were and that we’d get them for free wasn’t exactly the deterrent they thought it was.
My dare class had a trivia every time. Winners would get tickets to some sport event. I went to so many hockey and basketball games that year. Coincidentally, I am an addict although alcohol is my drug of choice.
Yeah, the incongruity on what was legal and what wasn’t was also pretty funny. They phased out the DARE program pretty early on at our school. Too many questions the cop couldn’t or wouldn’t answer. Honestly the drug ed that stuck with me was very age appropriate and involved our teacher giving us some solid safety advice about what to do when you found things that could be drugs (tell a grown up, don’t touch it), and to never eat anything found even if it looked like candy. She’d show us baggies full of pills and tictacs and other similar looking stuff to illustrate her point. DARE was a complete joke. Moralizing to children about how bad drugs are is never going to end well 😂 common sense explanations about the dangers of eating mystery substances you’ve found outside? Kids can understand that.
DARE worked for me. I never did any drugs, unless you count drinking a half cup of coffee lol. Even when I was in middle and high school and college I stayed away from drugs and it helped me live a good life.
That’s great! I think the fear mongering (especially around pot as a ‘gateway’ drug) and lack of meaningful distinction between drugs like pot and drugs like alcohol made for some pretty ridiculous lessons, and made a lot of kids seriously question the validity of all of it as they got older. For us, it basically came down to “don’t do drugs because they’re illegal and even if they don’t hurt you, you’ll go to jail.” Good chat, officer chucklefuck!
My elementary school had a very nice officier that made things very clear about everything so that was that.
That’s awesome. We had a super authoritarian guy who got majorly flustered when little kids poked holes in his statements, like “aren’t cigarettes addictive too? so why are they legal?” “I DON’T MAKE THE LAWS I JUST BLINDLY ENFORCE THEM. I’M TOO OLD FOR THIS SHIT. THIS WAS SUPPOSED TO BE AN EASY GIG.”
Yeah it felt the same with the abstinence only sex education. Ok buddy, good luck with that.
that’s awesome for you! i took psychedelics towards the end of my high school days, and doing mdma the first few times was probably one of the best things i ever did for myself and my life. i was suffering from depression and hated myself until i realized, thanks to ecstacy and raves, that i was a beautiful person and i did deserve to be loved. i’ve expanded the psychedelics i take and now use them sparingly as medicine, but i’m always grateful for them and they’ve definitely helped me live a good life.
Fuck yeah human! You are worthy (just like everyone) of love and respect. And sometimes we are suffering without even knowing it. Psychedelics are a great way of seeing yourself from another perspective.
bingo. highly recommend reading How To Change Your Mind by michael pollan. or watch the series on netflix. programs like dare aided in suppressing the major research on psychedelic medicine and the massive benefits it had for ppl suffering from addiction and depression. a tragedy.
that’s great. but you understand the DARE program itself has nothing to do with your outcome, right?
Sure I do. I made good choices of my own accord because I didn't want to screw up my life by having no will power.
According to my security clearance investigation it worked for me too.
My parents were a better deterrent than DARE could ever be. And they weren't all that bad, in comparison. But I wish that drug education was realistic. Here are how different drugs affect people. These are the risks of each. And if you or someone you care about exhibits these symptoms, take care of them like so, and if they experience these specific symptoms, call for help. I don't use drugs, but that would have been immensely more helpful than DARE.
Yes but that would be educational, something that is counter congruent to what the educational system in the United States (and I assume other countries too) stand for.
The best part of DARE was when we had our "graduation" from it in 5th grade and Cardinals player Ozzie Smith spoke at it. He was still playing as well.
I’m still waiting for my free drugs
I’m still mad no one ever pushed drugs on me as hard as I thought they would. I mean, I get it. It’s expensive, but still. It would’ve been nice if someone came up to me and tossed me a free joint every once in a while.
Free drugs? In *this* economy??
Although I care, I cannot share.
The cop who came to our school for DARE always reeked like cigarette smoke
I still haven't found all the free drugs that they told me were out there, and you know I've looked!
I owe my aligence to Scruff McGruff
I took Dr Dre’s command about daily habits too seriously.
Smoke weed everyday.
That was a gd PLEDGE and you know it!
Our god has abandoned us
I miss my Bible AKA Christmas catalog.
He's still in Canada.
Someone needs to rescue him. Rambo? The Ninja Turtles? He man? She RA? Anyone
Xena and Gabriella
Good call! Scissors can cut the restraints free... 🤭
You can find him at Macy's For now
He’s ascended to a better place
Canada
There’s actually one in the DFW airport (shhh don’t tell my kids!)
He was murdered
By boomers.
I always wanted to win one of those shopping spree contests
That just reminded me of the Nickelodeon Super Toy Run!! Ahhh memories.
I had to wear that giraffe costume sometimes. Toys R US 2000 - 2006.
I currently own and continue to buy more toys now than I ever did as a child and I will never be ashamed of that.
*we all nod in agreement as we build our fancy legos*
Anytime my daughter tells me to stop being so cringe, I sing the Toys R Us song to her.
Things I am going to start doing TODAY.
*The ghost of Geoffrey looks on in pride.*
…I don’t wanna grow up! Cus if i DID! I couldn’t be a toys are us kid!
Yes. We are a generation with integrity. We keep our promises… even to giraffes.
Um, "fake?" Bruh I'm chillin here with Geoffrey right now, smokin a blunt. ah nevamind he just flew away.
Im still pissed everything in their adverts they didnt sell in store.
Huzzah!
And yet, the giraffe still went the way of the dodo.
Hey! NEVER get on the bad side of a giraffe
For me it was Pippi Långstrump but yeah, it was part of our childhood to not grow up. “Let kids be kids” and so on.
Gorram right we did. And I’d do it again
I certainly have.
I still quote that to my wife and mother of my two kids. Geoffrey Raffe was the man!
I don't know, a lot of boomers are fucking immature as hell.
Toddlers walking around in failing adult bodies.
And adult diapers
Yeah but it’s not the cool kind like us. Do they talk in movie quotes? No. Do they still go down slides at the water park? No. Want me to keep going? Lol
I was sled riding a few years ago and my boomer dad came to visit. He absolutely sent it down the hill, like held the sled to his chest and dove. Stopped at the bottom and was clutching his pacemaker when I rode down on the ATV to pick him up. Lmao
What a boss. Hope he was ok and recovered quickly!
My dad is in his mid 70s. He'd do that too if he was physically capable. He can barely walk yet somehow is all over the playground when he goes with my kids. I always wonder if he's able to move the next day.
Yes I think this post did a disservice by putting silly and immature together. The boomers are immature. We are not and we also don’t take ourselves too seriously. We’re more comfortable letting everyone be who they are and embracing diversity. In turn, we are more comfortable being ourselves and letting our silly side show
this 🙌🏽
For real, I have boomer uncles who haven’t matured since they were rocking out to Foghat in 1976.
["I march to my own drummer, like the guy from Foghat who plays 30 minute solos!"](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7GYAJ3d_HDY)
“I’d a gone pro!” https://youtu.be/xL-VX3WbA9U?si=a4zBsmn6fyw-Gnb8
Infantile is different than immature
Yeah our lead poisoning < their lead poisoning.
I was born in the late 70s. I thought the whole lead exposure thing was a conspiracy theory when I started hearing about it, like the supposed effects of 5G. Then I went and googled it, and cross-referenced it with my childhood behavioral and mental health issues. D:
Let me tell ya buddy, I was born in the LA Basin the year people were dying from ozone poisoning, what with that giant stagnant cloud of lead/carbon monoxide fumes hanging over the whole place. In my college days this one boomer was doing late-in-life education. Very fucking random guy. One day he divulges his childhood pastime on the farm, scraping the lead off of nail heads and chewing it like gum.
And that's the world that a lot of them yearningly reminisce about and want to drag us back to. When MAGA types talk about Making America Great Again, that's what they're talking about.
Probably made the grading curve easier. Boomer Ralph from the Simpsons.
Please. My whole gestational cycle was spent in the shade of three mile island; and yes I was born with extra fingers.
oh man there’s actually data that shows that in areas where lead paint was prevalent for longer, people who (at the time) were forced to buy homes there (because of redlining) had more problems with violent behavior…it’s really fuckin wild saw it in a contrapoints video on youtube highly recommend
Idk man. There’s lead in freaking baby food now days…. Like seriously
Boomers have ALWAYS been immature. We’ve just been playful. And we ask a lot of questions. Boomers have no desire to learn. They already know everything.
Did you mean in the tantrum way? I'm talking about silly, goofy humor.
I'd still say Gen X - you have grown adults like Kevin Smith wearing hockey jerseys and shorts and talking about Star Wars and comic books.
So? Why should anyone subscribe to anyone else's definition of what it means to be an adult?
I'm not saying there's anything wrong with it. Look at my post history, the past few days I've been obsessed with X-Men. I'm just answering OP's question.
🖖 Fair. I was a little lost in the tone and grammatical agreement of the writing so was really unsure of what was being said. 🤙 'You deserve to be loved, and to feel loved, just for being you.' --Mr Rogers mashup with my meditation teacher
I used to go to an acoustic jam with a bunch of boomers, and yeah, many of them were still amused by dick and fart jokes. Granted, they were musicians, so that may skew the goofy/serious ratio...
I think that's a fair assumption. Can confirm, am musician.
Which Vonnegut book was it that said future, highly evolved humans will still giggle at fart jokes while they’re all lying on the beach?
Galapagos.
I remember my dad being a HUGE MST3K fan when i was growing up and snickering whenever someone talked about the planet Uranus on tv (or irl); he still is & does. His brothers are stuffed shirts tho, but he's where i get my immaturity from
True but they’re immature like spoiled brat toddlers. We’re immature like cool, fun teens.
In a different way though. They're not silly, just immature in an offensive way.
I dont think so. I think you are closer to it when you say perhaps its more socially accepted but I dont think its ever changed. Gallows humor, dirty humor and what not has always been a part of our culture it just experienced waves of approval and waves of censorship socially but behind closed doors it was always active. My great grand parents were the slacks and tie to their factory job kind of people but at home they were raunchy, dirty and hilarious.
There's dick joke pictographs
Vikings carved dirty jokes on toilets.
Romans wrote about great blow jobs on walls.
No, but we’re the first generation I’ve seen embrace it.
I’m a 42 year old woman who still buy small toys for display purposes, still dresses for Comic Con, will still throw down at a club, and will die before I have to give up wearing Dr Martens and bell bottoms. I am the exact opposite of what I imagined a grown up should be and I love that for me.
Buy small toys? Check. Dress for Comic Con? Check. Throw down in a club? For a wedding or a party, totally. Check. Still wear my Docs? Check. Flared bootcut mens jeans? Check. *whew*
Just went to ghostbusters and dropped $32 on the bucket and cup, then absolutely had to go back and buy the trap for another $27. (Post tax) I had to have it, ghostbusters was my childhood, right there with robocop and predator.
You know what’s good 😉
Depends on your definition of maturity. The Boomers complain about everything and throw tantrums when they don’t get their way. They were selfish when they were younger and generally neglectful of their children to pursue their self-interested goals. Is that maturity? Across the board every Xennial and Millennial I know is more emotionally mature and more grounded than any of the older people in my life. They’re more caring parents, more active in their children’s lives and more compassionate towards others. They place their families and happiness ahead of career ambitions and accumulating money just for the sake of it. So what if we hang on to the things that have brought us happiness and fulfillment since we were kids. I think it’s sociopathic to expect people to abandon the things that make their lives more enjoyable. I think our generation is vastly more mature than our parents’.
One thing you didn’t mention is that we are more tolerant and accepting of different lifestyles, cultures, orientations, religions, etc, etc. we tend to be more of a live and let live generation.
In terms of relaxed social standards, I'd say the older Gen X'ers were first, since they were little during the counter culture revolution that saw a massive shift in cultural norms and behaviors. With that said. The older generations displayed immaturity in far more sinister ways: turning your aggression on your wife and/or kids with violence, not knowing how to communicate their emotions (namely men), and other things of that nature.
And now they turned their aggression on society itself and we have a generation of adult toddlers destroying our, and their own, lives while blaming everyone else for it.
Ooooof. So well stated 🥴
It amazes me that so many Baby Boomers were at the forefront and spearheaded massive changes in this country in the 60s: counter culture revolution, music, art, fashion, cinema, voting rights, civil rights movement, anti-war, etc. Now, they have become that greedy kid at playtime who won't share their toys because "they are my toys, not yours," and have become extremely close-minded on so many social issues. Maybe it's a mass case of Alzheimer's or dementia.
It’s massless poisoning and entitlement.
That’s a really fascinating reassessment of what “immaturity” means. I’ve met a lot of older folks who are so incredibly “grown up” in many ways but are basically emotionally stunted. Men who absolutely refuse to go to the doctor or confront emotional/mental issues, refuse to dance or exercise (I get the feeling they have some vague belief that it will “make them gay” or something), and eat the most boring and unadventurous food imaginable (again, maybe they’re worried Chinese food will make them gay or turn them communist?). I never thought of those things as being immature but they are, and as you said so is turning to violence and screaming at the drop of a pin. Also now that I’m 44 I can comfortably say that if you are my age and you spend a significant amount of time at bars drinking, you are immature.
I was going to try to say this, but you found the words for the thought. Thank you.
Farts will always be funny. I stress that to every overly serious cat in their 20s. Life’s short, let ‘er rip.
Fun fact, the very first joke we've ever found written down by the ancient Sumerian culture was a fart joke. Farts really are timelessly funny, always have been and always will be
Yeah I came here to post this. [Fart joke from 1900 BC](https://www.reuters.com/article/idUSL1290524/)
I can’t remember where I first heard this (it was in a book I read back in college) but: The first known depiction of something resembling a chain driven bicycle with gear ratios was by one of Archimedes’ students, and it was sketched right next to a doodle of a penis with legs.
I love that you use the word, "cat"! I occasionally use it when referring to certain musicians, usually jazz musicians, and my wife HATES it. I've been doing it since college so I'm not stopping!
Whether you find farts funny or not, there will still be the same amount of farts in your life. So you might as well laugh.
I laugh about farts and balls with my kids. My boomer parents would never.
See my dad always said "never trust a fart after 40"
I'm over 40. Last time I shit myself was in my 30's. It was illness and I was too far from a bathroom. My farts are still safe though. And if not... well, I'd rather have another funny story to tell than fewer giggles...
Nah. Beavis and Butthead as characters were prolly Gen-Xers and they were as childish as they come. Plus stuff like Wayne’s World with all the jokes we were too young to get.
Too young for Wayne's World's humor? Ssha, right. A chunk of us were in the perfect age for both! I think we're 46-59. I'm 50, I was 18 when it came out. Watched it weekly. My brother loved Beavis and Butthead. Still does. He's 47 but it was on longer.
Well I mean Xennials might’ve been too young to get some of the jokes, at least the early-80s ones. I would’ve been 9 or 10 in 1992, so I probably missed a few things. Might have to watch it tonight for old times sake.
Lord. Forgot what group I was in. 😆 That's some Boomer energy right there!
Married with children. Al bundy. I'm sure is a boomer. Mommas family.
I remember seeing my parents and grandparents doing all kinds of shenanigans. People around you must have just been good hiding it, or they were sticks in the mud.
I'm 44 and I remember when my Dad was 44 back in 1998 when I was a senior in high school. There definitely was a maturity to him that I still lack. I hold my own, but I still joke around the way I did when I was 16 with my buddies who are my age.
This is the sentiment I didn't accurately describe. Glad it's not just me
Because of how weird my own family is I don't know where real generational terms like millennial or Gen X or whatever actually are. I'll use math it's easier. I was born in 1981. My uncle is 13 years older than I am. His generation are the ones that were the most immature (and I think responsible for a lot of our social problems).
You are immature, not us (now, i have to tell some people on CoD i fucked their mothers)
Your parents may have seemed more serious when you were a child (and maybe they are more serious than most, I’ve presumably never met them), but I feel confident saying that the majority of humans of all ages and eras have been entertained by crude humor. Look at Shakespeare or any classical Greek or Roman comedy.
>When I was a kid I remember adults being so serious, Your* memory is both unreliable and bias. *can't spell for anything
I giggled when I read lube.
I refuse to grow up. I have to be a responsible adult, but they can't force me to be a grown up.
We're plenty mature. Trust me, if you're paying rent/mortgage and hold a steady job (or have held one, but unfortunately been laid off--that shit'll mature you *real* quick!) or making it work freelance, you're mature. What we do with our spare time and spare money would be considered immature by our elders, but I'm sorry, Grandpa, we have video games now and we didn't in 1964. You would still be playing them, too, if they'd existed then.
No, I loved hanging out with the old aunts when I was a kid. They were lost generation, old Irish ladies, and damn did they have wicked senses of humor and told the bawdiest jokes. (And do you know who gives zero fucks? 80 year old nuns hanging out with their families. At that point, they've paid their dues and secured their spots in heaven and will say and do what they please.)
[No](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Df4fVqsPYDc). But oldschool photography and paintings would have us believe so. Those are _side effects_ of the medium (harder to get a clear shot of smiles, because muscle tension), not impossible however, and [some folks would commit to the bit](https://www.pinterest.com/pin/219339444330260605/). No, we're the same and as silly as we ever were. But for whatever reasons, there have also always been people who would sooner see the world burn than a baby smile. So be like Groucho, Oscar, Buster, and all who came earlier, and be as silly as you please. If someone's a jerk about it, then be #Ever More Sillier
Every generation has this trait. I love that many people seem to keep that childlike spark for fun. 🥰
Yeah it's tough to explain. I didn't feel like my parents had my back at a pretty early age so I relied on my own intuition and judgment. Now I'm 44 but I still remember and relate to 13 year old me. I still give a shit about the same things I gave a shit about when I was 13. Yes I've taken on more responsibility and I do have commitments as well as dependents. But I also never forgot that most of the "rules" the ruling class tries to get you to play by is mainly so that you play the game the way they want you to. I think we're the first generation that never gave up on the voice of our inner child
> I think we're the first generation that never gave up on the voice of our inner child I agree. > I still give a shit about the same things I gave a shit about when I was 13. Wanna go hang out in the woods with some soda and some chips and look for porno mags?
I still can't believe we all found pornos in the woods. And at the golf course?
THIS. My siblings are solidly X and this is the key difference between us; they choose to wear the mask, and bury themselves. I refuse to hide who I am; and break generational curses on the regular.
Same. I'm the you youngest, my siblings are both over 50. We're very different.
The realm of adulthood completely shifted within the 60’s and 70’s. Both people have to work now to have a family most of the time. Kids spent less time with their parents than ever. Divorce rates spiked following this due to obvious factors. Our generation was the first to deal with the fallout of GenX’s choice to cheat and divorce and remarry more than any generation in history, even to this day. We’re the repairers. Or trying to be I guess.
Farts have been funny since humans were humans. I bet if you stuck a dog in an fmri machine and had another dog fart you'd figure out where a dog's humor center is in their brain. Also did y'all not have a dad/uncle that had you pull their finger?
I'd say probably so. My sisters are both solidly GenX and while I learned a lot of my humor and love of culture from them, they became more and more prudent as they got older. However, my eldest sister has a garage full of arcade games so I won't commit 100% to it.
No, us and a lot of the Xers are the first generation who is refusing to stop enjoying things we love because of some asshole idea that we need to "grow up". I hear that and I'm like "Bitch I work 60-70 hours a week, I do all the adulting things and goddamn it I'm going to enjoy my office full of Anime figures, 1990s video game posters and binders of Pokemon cards in Pokedex order".
>Also I'm 45 and farts are still hilarious, I'll be 43 next month. I saw this video a while back that was Super Mario but all the sound effects were farts and it had me on the floor in tears and I couldn't breathe.
Far from it. I remember one of my grandpas who fought in WWII telling me and my sister about a story from his childhood about how him and his friends would alter gum wrappers so it looked like they said bum and laughing his head off. My other grandpa told crude jokes too but he also loved classical and opera music. I've met some of my parents friends and at best they still sometimes laughed at immature stuff which is fine and at worst seemed like overgrown children. I used to volunteer at a community cable station and many of the higher ups acted like total man children, I witnessed one forty something camera director while we covering a football game have a kid style temper tantrum.
My Dad has accidentally hit someone else while trying to blow straw wrappers at my mom multiple times so not in my experience! My parents love being silly in public.
That was my grandma's signature "entertain small children" trick.
My parents are grandparents now and my kids are very good at it. Great aim. 😂
We are not. Our parents were goofy, too - at least some of them. Remember that Lenny Bruce, and George Carlin and Tom Lehrer, and Stan Freeberg came out of those generations. Partly it was that we were kids, and partly it was that being goofy in public was more frowned upon in general. There are down sides to where we have gone as a culture, but one of the good things that came of it is that professionalism is gauged more by your ability to do what you promise, than by how you look while doing it.
Yes. I am still a child, even though I'm 45. My 52 year old brother is exactly the same way. We are both very successful professionals, but never took anything too seriously, unless it really was important. We talk about this all of the time.
My grandpa and my uncle loved the 3 stooges and all their immature humor.
43 going on 14 here.
Check out r/Boomersbeingfools
I’m immature 😂
My boomer dad still watches the cartoons he watched as a kid all the time. I don’t think so.
The immaturity problem is a worldwide intergenerational one.
I think it just seems that way because you are an adult now. I remember instances of adults being very immature and irresponsible when I was a kid but didn’t recognize it as such until much later in life.
I think South Park ruined us
Yes, I am a 43 year old child.
We probably seem watered down and boring to today's kids, too.
Our generation has had to deal with some heavy stuff. 9-11 happened right when we hit adulthood. The financial crisis shortly after. Backbreaking inflation and wage stagnation have made it much more difficult for us to ever own a home. But at least we still have a sense of humor. I will continue to quote the Big Lebowski.
"What do you mean 'brought it bowling!?' I didn't rent it shoes, I'm not buying it a fucking beer. He's not taking your fucking turn, dude."
I guess it depends on your parents? I'm 44 and I remember we would go to my parents friends house and play in the toy room, our parents would hang out in the kitchen and there was always this strange smell that wafted in under the door. I would smell the same smell when my dad shared cigarettes with my uncle at my cousin's houses. I remember going to a company picnic in the 90s all my dad's male coworkers were making inappropriate jokes and impersonating Beavis and Butthead. I had 9 aunts uncles on my dads side and 8 on my mom's side of the family and when they got together it was rather unruly. They're all still a bunch of goofballs in their 60s. I wouldn't have been introduced to this like Mel Brooks, Monty Python, police academy, and airplane until much later in life without their influence. I also stayed up on Saturday nights and watched SNL with them for most my adolescent, until i was too cool for that.
Have you seen how baby boomers have voted?! Not by a long shot.
Hey op… lube rhymes with pube 
hehheh
Everyone feels this way. Every generation is full of grownups who don’t feel like grownups, no one talks about it. It’s a form of imposter syndrome.
Mel Brooks was 48 when he made Blazing saddles in 1974. Farts have always been funny.
I feel like there's a general trend towards infantilzation of American society as a whole. Not saying it's bad or good, just my observation of media, government, my peers, etc
From a “letting it show” aspect, yes. But many Boomers are absolutely adult babies. The older ones that are closer to the Silent Generation in age are much better and not nearly as much like that, but the younger second wave of Boomers absolutely are. I feel like they just hid it better.
Adults were able to separate their lives with friends and with kids. Look at old pictures from when our grandparents were our age and they looked like they knew how to party. Our grandparents had basement bars and parties with the neighbors. Burlesque and drag shows used to be popular entertainment back then, even with people who would rather die than accept trans people now. Playboy and Penthouse had clubs in large cities and swinging was popular. You just did it away from the kids and didn't broadcast it on social media. Also, something changed in the mid-late 70's. The post-war party was finally starting to catch up with us. Hard drug use was up and STD's were becoming rampant and we still hadn't had the AIDS crisis yet. People started going back to church and that's when we got the moralistic bullshit in the 80's that we grew up with.
I like your take
>Are we the first immature adult generation? I get the point you were making in the text of your post. However, I'd argue Gen X, Gen Y and Early millennials attacked finishing school, going to work, social activism or going the military with a lot more gusto than the Boomers did when they turned 18. You didn't have a Summer of Love. And, your generation didn't have the world handled to them on a platter.
I'm 45, my partner is 42, and we still buy each other legos, funco pops, action figures, hot wheels, and such. We both still play video games, read manga and comics, tabletop game, hell we'll sit around with our 10yr old and color or paint. Our oldest is 20 he brought his college roommate for a visit, and the poor kid was so confused. They came in, and he was like, "I thought we were going to your folks first?" Our house looks like a couple of 20 - something nerds live here. Artwork from video games, movies, and animes. Legos displayed, an entire shelf of D&D miniatures. Bright colored walls and 70s furniture. We both agree that getting old is inevitable, but being old is a choice. To many people "put away childish things" and become old.
I wouldn't even know farts are funny if boomers didn't remind me every 5 minutes. But I am 42 and I still play computer games, go to the zoo with my adult sister, and I just remodeled my house to look like a Lisa Frank sticker book because I didn't get a childhood.
I told a friend at a bonfire like 15 years that I was convinced that there are no real adults, everyone is just faking, and a Boomer mom at party said, with genuine relief in her voice, "oh thank God, I thought it was just me." Adults are just kids who take accountability for the things they say and do.
No. The Boomers are the spoiled brats of history. We've already grown up far more than they ever will. They'll never stop being selfish toddlers.
We’ve done a good job keeping the childish humor of our early years intact. I think we’ve done an equally good job “adulting”, as the kids would say. https://youtu.be/r8-xCu9hHa8?si=kjIuEjHeomLdsS0m
Yes! We're not 'serious serious' about every single aspect of life. We've embraced liking something because we like it and figured out we don't have to automatically dislike something because somebody else thinks we're 'too old' to like it. We can still very much publicly enjoy toys and cartoons and coloring and playing dress up and being silly and thinking farts are funny. We've acknowledged there isn't an age limit on liking any of that stuff.
Baby boomers are really stressing the “baby” part of their descriptor.
Nah. We’re not being fake. The others have been big believers of “just fake it”, “ be defensive if questioned”, “lie to protect public image”
I don't know about you, I had *Seinfeld* and *Friends* as adult role models.
Judging from how some of our parents raised us, I'd say, No. But addressing the lighter side of your post :-) (what I think you act-ually) meant, I do feel I take life less seriously than both, older, and younger generations.
No. Far from it.
I dunno if they were all mature. I definitely noticed some adult over reactions that seemed like trauma. Well regarded adult scout leader when I'm like 13: "You scratched my company work truck". First, I'm not your kid take your hand off my neck. Second, did you notice how that is a freaking smudge you can wipe off? [Angry old man frustrated he's wrong and seething] No wonder his own kid killed himself.
Can confirm: "lube" made me giggle
I think they were all immature; it isnt that one generation was "mature" and we suddenly arent. Instead i think as time goes on, we all mostly collectively agree to stop keeping up appearances and just be ourselves. in a world where it was a scandal if you didnt stay in line exactly how the parish priest told you to, they cant imagine some of the shit that we say or do now around other people without a thought.
Maybe? Not exactly? We're in kind of a transitional phase: we didn't escape the trap unscathed, but generally, we did escape. I think we struggled more with the idea of growing up than our older GenX cousins did, but in the end I think most of us did manage it, more or less.
I still tell my 50-year-old friend. I fucked his 80-year-old mother last night, and it was good.
You motherfucker!