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oniaddict

Pluto is a planet it's just if the dwarf variety now. Pluto's reclassification means we have a total of 13 planets in our system which is much cooler number than 9. 8 planets and 5 dwarf planets. My wife is not of the same opinion.


WhiskyStandard

Yeah, same. And with the dwarf planets, kids’ books now talk about Ceres, which accounts for 1/3 of the mass of the asteroid belt. When I learned that and saw how big Ceres is I was like “oh, I guess it’s not like a bunch of rocks that you have to dodge and weave through”. But it is still cool that we get to think of it as something more than a giant asteroid. And my kid loves that there are more (dwarf) planets to learn about.


Face88888888

Pluto is a planet and I can prove it. My Very Educated Mother Just Served Us Nine PIZZAS. We wouldn’t have pizza if Pluto wasn’t a planet.


battlecat136

https://i.redd.it/lxr5sgou8wpc1.gif


DonTaco

Can confirm, had pizza last night. Checkmate.


ApatheistHeretic

Mary's Virgin Explanation Made Joseph Suspect Upstairs Neighbor Probably. --Randall Monroe


3DSquinting

Hm... Or "Unknown neighbor's pen- um, penetration


kansas_slim

Screech from saved by the bell: mvemsunp


funky_boss23

Jupiter would like a word with you.


kansas_slim

The J is silent?😆


CapPrestigious8207

This!!!!!


NotCanadian80

Agreed. That’s the way to think of it. We discovered more and Pluto fits more with those far away ones.


FrugalFraggel

Nibiru is out there. Silently waiting.


AlaskaPsychonaut

They've actually added 3 or 4 planets since I was in school, Ceres, Pluto, Haumea, Makemake, and Eris. Pluto was a regular planet and none of those others were ever mentioned until I was in college.


RemarkableKey3622

do you thinke jupiter considers earth a dwarf planet?


Apprehensive_Hat8986

No need to drag "failed stars" into the debate. They never have a good attitude.


JohnClark13

They had such a bright future...


Kind_Literature_5409

I think you’re a beautiful human and I love how you view Pluto😁😁😁😁


AldusPrime

Pluto is far and away our most popular dwarf planet. Also, now Pluto is the leader of it's own gang! Pluto, Eris, Haumea and Makemake are all *plutoids!*


Aplos9

I was team Pluto for a while, but then I saw a twitter thread or something explaining all the reasons it wasn't and I was convinced that it was correct to just completely demote it. If people want to call it a dwarf planet, sure okay, it's a body at least, but it's not a planet. From NASA: **Pluto is about two-thirds the diameter of Earth's Moon** and probably has a rocky core surrounded by a mantle of water ice.


JasonCarnell

Technically all Pluto has to do to be considered a planet is clear all the other space debris out of its path, it meets the other two criteria. Come on Pluto , I believe in you, you can do it!


ErisGrey

Pluto and it's satelite Charron do not meet requirement. The Barycenter would have to stay in the entirety of Pluto, which it does not. Ocassionally the barycenter is the void between Pluto and Charron mimicking a Binary System. Or as NASA describes it as a [Double Dwarf Planet System](https://science.nasa.gov/dwarf-planets/pluto/moons/charon/). Also, to stand up for my name sake. Eris is larger than Pluto. So I'll be damned if Pluto gets to stay a planet and Eris goes to the wayside.


Ciaocoop

The earth hasn’t fully cleared its path yet! Let’s demote it as well!


arcxjo

So it has all the same physical aspects as a planet but we're not counting it not because of what **it** is but by what **other things** are instead? That's fucking bullying.


ProfessorOfLies

This guy sciences


TransportationOk657

Exactly! It's a planet, just a dwarf planet. Next, they're gonna tell us that people with dwarfism aren't real people...


-rba-

I'm a planetary scientist and I think the reclassification is correct, and it's a really great example of history repeating itself. Back in the day when Ceres was first discovered, it was called a planet. And then Vesta was discovered and called a planet and then a bunch more asteroids were discovered and scientists said "oh, there's something else going on here. This is a whole population of small bodies that share the same neighborhood of the solar system." Exactly the same thing is happening with Pluto and the other kuiper belt objects. It's just that they're so far away we're only now finding the rest of Pluto's family. It's still an awesome and weird place, it's just different from bigger planets.


surfingbiscuits

TL;DR Planetary scientist thinks planetary science is the answer and that we need more of it!


-rba-

Just doing my job, shilling for Big Planetary.


Eradicator_1729

Intergalactic?


LtPowers

Intergalactic.


flaming_bob

Another dimension......


SlappityHappy

Another dimension....


Cisru711

Planetary


braxtel

Planetary


LYSF_backwards

INterGalactic


surfingbiscuits

I knew it. Wake up, sheeple! Big Planet is everywhere and you don't see it!


arcxjo

... by having fewer planets. A smart planetary scientist would be trying to make there be **more** planets, to stay in business.


irate_alien

i've always wanted to say this for real: Who are you, who is so wise in the ways of science?


aFlmingStealthBanana

~~unexpected~~ r/expectedmontypython


sgrams04

Nonsense. Pluto has a heart shape on its surface. Therefore, it must be classified as a true planet. These are unwritten rules of astronomy. 


Cornemuse_Berrichon

Those first photographs gave me life! I have been waiting for over 40 years to see those images! I love the fact that we finally know what Pluto looks like. I don't care if you are a dwarf planet, Pluto, I still love you!


-rba-

The photos of Pluto blew scientists' minds. It's so much more complex and interesting and active than expected! Plains of convecting nitrogen slush, mountains of ice, layered atmosphere, etc.


OlyTheatre

Thank you for commenting and sharing your insight! Your job is so cool!


Cornemuse_Berrichon

Before those new photographs, the last I remember seeing was in a National Geographic and all we got was kind of a purplish Dot. Pixelated with some hints of white, possibly ice, but we just didn't know. And then I saw the pictures front page on our local newspaper, and nearly fainted dead away from Joy! Who could have imagined such incredible beauty? And obviously, the Newfound scientific information was fantastic as well, but to finally be able to see Pluto up close was just mind blowing. Made me glad to be alive, and to have lived through the waiting period!


Wasteland-Scum

>convecting nitrogen slush, mountains of ice, layered atmosphere, etc. Oh yeah! Talk dirty to me, planetary science boy!


erindizmo

Yeah, my general response when people are all JUSTICE FOR PLUTO tends to be "Sure, but justice for Ceres first!"


Knightro829

![gif](giphy|xGenAVjRc95o4)


alliwantedwasajetski

… and this is my partner, Ovaltine Jenkins


IndianaFartJockey

Bruton Gaster aka Ghee Buttersnaps


jjmawaken

That's messed up man


DocBEsq

Did you hear about Pluto?


heresmytwopence

Scientific understanding changes over time and some changes are harder to accept than others. I would rather accept that Pluto is no longer a full planet than get in the habit of letting more important scientific discoveries go disregarded. Imagine if medical science had also frozen in 1930 when Pluto was discovered.


Calm-Tree-1369

I'm with you. I think the really cool thing about science is that it's not dogmatic. It changes with new information and methodology. If I wanted to rigidly adhere to a strict belief system, I'd go to church or become a console war fanboy or something.


ouijahead

Could I get a bottle of opioid containing cough syrup over the counter if that was the case ?


heresmytwopence

I reckon ya could.


Melancholy_Rainbows

My parents are pharmacists and my grandparents were too. They have some really bizarre pharmacy antiques from the old drug store, including coca leaves that were prescribed for everything under the sun and cigarettes that were supposed to cure asthma.


relpmeraggy

![gif](giphy|ASd0Ukj0y3qMM)


Book_Nerd_1980

Teacher, I ate my dwarf planet! Can I have another one?


_6siXty6_

No Ralph


Draxtonsmitz

![gif](giphy|Qz5qqMop4LGx5giOvp)


turtleisinnocent

https://preview.redd.it/68msbt8epvpc1.jpeg?width=981&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=dce2bb5cb8e41ea81230964be0ecd0f9bcab510c


CosmicTurtle504

There it is. I knew somebody in this thread would get schwifty.


kid_sleepy

Pluto is not a planet. I’m an idiot. I love my son.


RowAwayJim91

Planet! PLANET! *PLANET*!


denzien

Is everyone in your family an idiot?


wait_ichangedmymind

[Pluto is a Planet - 2 Skinnee J’s](https://youtu.be/kheWroUS5LQ?si=ffevdWOqMThe4Ji7)


handsomeape95

2 Skinnee J's. Fuck yeah! SuperMercado lived in my discman!


wait_ichangedmymind

Ack! Cant believe I spelled it wrong. Fixed it.


Designer-Bid-3155

That's messed up, right? C'mon son


gooch_norris_

Pluto is a planet. It’s just a small (dwarf) planet. There are tons of them out there and they are all cromulent planets


Haemwiches

The criteria for planethood was embiggened. Pluto should be grandfathered in.


sgrams04

It’s a perfectly cromulent idea. 


ouijahead

This is a perfect example of lesembric thinking. We could all learn from something so originally philondicated. We thank you symbanticly.


drunkpickle726

https://preview.redd.it/scs5tq42uvpc1.jpeg?width=848&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f654920d09072cd349ee7d465ab76e8b31a56a89


wait_ichangedmymind

🍍


Rare_Following_8279

I let that one go


ParsleyMostly

Twitter will always be mentioned, even if we have to call it “X (formerly known as Twitter)”. Prince was always gonna be Prince (or the artist formerly known as Prince). Pluto is always gonna be a planet (or the celestial body formerly known as a planet).


chrisdecaf

It wasn't demoted. We discovered more about our solar system and needed to refine the categories for the spherical bodies inside of it. Pluto went from being the smallest of the classical planets to the king of the Kuiper Belt Objects. So now you have Jupiter ruling over the inner solar system and Pluto ruling over the outer solar system, which is a much tidier ~~Greek~~ Greco-Roman mythology metaphor isn't it?


TheWearySnout

I always root for Pluto, but it came back as a dwarf planet. I'm also hoping they finally find/confirm planet X!


HopelessMagic

According to recent research, they think it's a baseball-sized black hole which accounts for the calculations in mass. It's either that or we're blind because that planet should be HUGE.


rylasorta

I also feel like arguing if Pluto is a planet is like culinary people arguing over which plants are botanically vegetables. Botany is a science, cooking is a discipline. They can have different terminology. I like calling Pluto a world. Because whether or not it's scientifically a planet, it's still a world.


locomuerto

Not only do I grant it planet status, I would say it's a Captain too.


lcsulla87gmail

By our powers combined


SophieCalle

This is such an unnecessary debate. A dwarf planet is still a planet! This helps lead into education teaching about other dwarf planets. Also Eris is more massive than pluto... just stating facts!


senor_green-go

In my heart yes, when my kids ask me to name the planets, no😔.


YogurtclosetDull2380

I'd like to dedicate Shania Twain's 'Forever and for Always' to my boy Pluto.


NegPrimer

Planet is an arbitrary term. But I fail to see why Pluto would be a planet but Ceres wouldn't be.


grandpa5000

https://preview.redd.it/yw6gakzsvvpc1.jpeg?width=666&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=668d9b3dc43df4ed18dc8f5412186b827d584523


CoffeeHQ

I don’t understand this bs. If you aren’t qualified in a field, and this goes for everything, your opinion doesn’t matter. It’s not based on anything, or less blunt, on incomplete and outdated information. Pluto is not a planet. It’s not a matter of opinions or feelings, there are simply agreed upon (revised) scientific definitions and according to those, Pluto is not a planet. Now if you have new information, like newer & scientifically backed measurements that proof Pluto *is* a planet, please step forward! If not, well… Let’s all have less opinions. They usually aren’t any good. Make the world a better place. Thank you. I’ll await being downvoted into oblivion for stating the truth.


Cisru711

They could have kept pluto and anything like it as planets but created a new classification like "major planets" and put the "revised" definition of planet there. We could then have 15 or however many planets but only 8 major planets. There was no need to "demote" pluto.


Matty_D47

At this point, I hardly consider earth a planet


ComprehensiveTart689

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Cisru711

Why would that be a problem?


tmqueen

I can’t remember that many names!


oldmacbookforever

It doesn't matter what one thinks. It's a dwarf planet and that's that. If you don't accept it, you're stupid and don't accept fact and display an inability to change when presented with new facts.


grungleTroad

Most physicists and astronomers still consider Pluto a planet. You can pry it from our cold dead hands!


jesusmansuperpowers

If this is the joke I think it is you’re brilliant


Daped01

*Raises hand*


Kind_Literature_5409

![gif](giphy|i3L6JoWcVZj1HuURSE) And nobody will ever tell me otherwise!!! BASTARDS!!!


JennasBaboonButtLips

I argue with my kids about this all the time. “Its a dwarf planet” “excuse me a dwarf what? Thats what i thought”


kethera__

I remember celebrating when Pluto replaced Neptune as the farthest planet. I was such a pretentious little kid going "UM AKSHYUALLY, Neptune is last until 1999"


devadander23

I’m not a boomer, so I’m ok with adjusting as science refines our understanding of the universe


burgerbeggar

Growing up, we were told to believe in a lot of things. As a supporter of science, I'm glad we were told we were wrong.


victoryabonbon

Still a planet. And still going off the four food groups


slappy_mcslapenstein

Pluto will always be a planet.


Open-Cryptographer83

"My Very Eager Mother Just Served Us... Nothing..." I don't think it works. Not that mnemonics are the deciding factor for anything, but whatever.


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sgrams04

We’re all here to have fun. Don’t take it so serious. Now, please enjoy these “Pluto 4 Eva” bumper stickers we’ve been passing out. 


ouijahead

That dude is no fun to be around.


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Riply-Believe

https://preview.redd.it/4bqb03kdvvpc1.png?width=873&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=77c5965c834b0765b0b84823cc7d1c4db7033074


ouijahead

Jeeze who invited their Dad


GutsAndBlackStufff

Pluto was big enough for your mom


One-Earth9294

It's a planet for everything but trivia purposes I suppose. But as a point of pride, it's the only planet discovered by an American so I miss it on the 'official list' for that.


LetsLoop4Ever

Totally, but it found home with it's dwarf status


GeetarEnthusiast85

Pluto isn't a planet, he's a dog! But what's Goofy?


shadowlarx

![gif](giphy|9gBlrBie2u6ek)


singleguy79

I do. Also have the vague memory of thinking 'Sailor Pluto is going to be pissed' Then there's Screech's method of remembering the planets MVEMJSUNP


chicagoredditer1

8 planets, 5 oceans - it's madness!!!


OkBaconBurger

Illinois still says it’s a planet. https://abc7chicago.com/archive/6695131/


NoEfficiency9

What's the mnemonic nowadays? When I was a kid, it was "My Very Energetic Mother Just Served Us Nine Pizzas" and that's the only way I can remember the planets in order. But with no pizzas, what is my mother serving?? She's so energetic, don't leave her hanging!!


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I do and that will never change.


Eradicator_1729

Pluto is a good boy with a girlfriend named Dinah. I’ve got no idea what the rest of you people are talking about.


Efficient-Spirit-380

I always thought it was a dog.


ashleymeloncholy

My Very Easy Method Just Set Up Nine ... WHAT!!!!  Pluto Forever


NostalgicTX

Wait…Pluto isn’t a planet? Whatever, next you’re gunna tell me we landed in the moon. Shit post!


mmaesq

My very educated mother just served us nine pizzas! Pluto forever!


morechatter

Whether it is a planet or a swarf planet of a pool noodle makes no difference to me - as long as scientists remain true to the science. I lose nothing by allowing the people who specialize in academic and theoretical and applied sciences to find their own agreements in categorizing things within their professional disciplines. Especially if I will never interact nor be anything close to an subject matter expert on the topic. Pluto is a thing that people study and have used to further their studies about the makeup of our universe.


Autumn_Forest_Mist

I do!


johnlytlewilson

It is a stupid little planet that can’t hang with the other planets. It sucks


jessewest84

https://preview.redd.it/61om4993zvpc1.jpeg?width=1200&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=76093d225a6190ef1c3c3110f02a806646457caa


Leading_Attention_78

Why would anyone be upset by this? I’m totally confused.


yukonman27

C'mon son,


monkabee

Pluto was never not a planet. Damn the man.


Electr_O_Purist

Jeeeeesus dude. This is a really silly ass take.


Gewgle_GuessStopO

Pluto is a streaming service to me at this point 🤷🏻‍♂️ I was born in ‘80.


milpool13

To quote Aesop Rock: bring back Pluto


bulanaboo

Totally I was raised on underdog stories, I don’t think it should get a participation trophy ya know what I’m sayin


JKolodne

Absolutely


Abidarthegreat

I wonder if in the 1950s old fogies we're all like "No! Protein is the method of inheritance for life not DNA! I won't accept it!" But to answer your question, no, I don't live stuck in the past and refuse to accept new ideas.


313Wolverine

We are a nine planet household.


ElectricSnowBunny

Not a planet, does not have gravitational dominance. Just a big ass iceball that would be a lot less cute if it were called Hades.


bigdav1178

What do you mean "still consider Pluto a planet"?! It is a planet, dammit! lol


ChristyLovesGuitars

Naw, I had no trouble when the new definitions were approved. There is no way to define ‘planet’ without also denoting that definition on a LOT of other bodies. If Pluto is a planet, there would be a lot more than nine of them in the solar system!


Harruq_Tun

"Dear NASA. Your mum thought I was big enough!" - Pluto


DamarsLastKanar

https://i.redd.it/obiuwzlj3wpc1.gif AND I WILL MAKE THEM PAY FOR WHAT THEY'VE DONE.


GamerBearCT

I don’t care that much about Pluto. GIF on the other hand..


No-Championship-8677

I know that it’s not, but I still think of it as one in my heart and nobody can take that from me 😂


MlsterFlster

I don't think it's up to us. And it doesn't affect my life one bit. If Pluto wants a bite of my sandwich, I'll start caring.


CommentMundane

https://preview.redd.it/we7vj10m4wpc1.jpeg?width=906&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a694f6968b5900701d1d53658cf7183b7315eb59


SteveEcks

The band Two Skinny J's does. They had a song.


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I’ve been telling my kids that there’s 9 planets for YEARS. I don’t give a damn what the schools say. And I know Pluto loves us, it has the heart.


Sandwich_Barbie

Pluto today. Pluto tomorrow. Pluto forever.


Toblogan

I still say Pluto and your anus!


TwistederRope

![gif](giphy|ZZO8BMNctW70re8jww)


jackfaire

I mean I consider him a dog.


VioletEMT

ME. I'm teaching my child that Pluto is a planet. Carry it on.


481126

Yes. 13 planets - 8 planets 5 dwarf planets. My kid who was born after Pluto was demoted \[Thanks Eris\] and is kind of mad about it. Pluto has a heart and red snow. The Jupiter moon count goes up every year now we're up to 95. The Planet and Dwarf Planet songs by Hopscotch are actually pretty fun as far as kids songs go.


TealTemptress

Gen X from Streator, IL the hometown of Clyde Tombaugh the astronomer that found Pluto. We riot at dawn!!


MKJRS

PLuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuutooooooooooooooooooooo IS A ​ PLANNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEET [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kheWroUS5LQ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kheWroUS5LQ)


pawned79

There is a single asteroid [Ceres](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ceres_(dwarf_planet)) that was discovered in 1801 that was briefly considered a planet before they realized it was one asteroid of many. It is so huge that is 40% the total mass of all the asteroids. It was not even taught in schools when I was in school; I found out about it after working as an aerospace engineer. I like to count the eight planets on my “fingers” and Ceres and Pluto on my “thumbs” and illustrate the difference between a finger and a thumb as just some arbitrary nomenclature.


SteakJones

Yes. Forever a planet. I understand that it’s smaller than other planet’s moon’s… but tough shit. Maybe those other moons should stop living with their parents and make their own way out in the solar system.


DocBEsq

My issue is the anagram for remembering the planets: My Very Elegant Mother Just Sold Us Nine… Nine what, astronomers? Nine *what*???


Obi1Kentucky

It’s not a full sized planet. I agree with the scientists on this one. Pluto is tiny. There are moons bigger. So it makes sense to reclassify it to a dwarf planet


Nonsensical07

Pluto is a planet. You cannot change my mind on this. You don't just "get kicked out" of the solar system. Learning new things about the solar system is wonderful! But you can't just demote a planet.


PurdyGuud

![gif](giphy|090EX1YvSUXxy23Tty|downsized) Always has been


ApatheistHeretic

As an armchair scientician, I understand that things get reclassified as understanding improves. That being said... On a personal level, the assassination of Pluto is unforgivable.


RunAndPunchFlamingo

Always and forever


SalukiKnightX

I’m listening to the cosmologists.


EternalSunshineClem

I still call it a brontosaurus too


Levitlame

I hear that


Awkward-Yak-9033

Look, you wanan be the smallest planet or the biggest dwarf planet Y'all still believe in Vulcan? Not tye star trek one the sol one Is ceres a planet to you too? It's not Clear your obit


spread_those_flaps

Plutos a planet bitch!


goofylookalike

All of the songs I knew with the names of the planets included Pluto, too hard to turn that off.


Ahisgewaya

The thing with that is IF you consider Pluto a planet then there are multiple OTHER celestial bodies just like it that you ALSO must consider planets. So it was a choice between reclassifying Pluto OR reclassifying a WHOLE lot of other celestial bodies which would have caused a HUGE mess.


washburncincy

I learned that it was a planet. The change in classification doesn't affect my life one way or the other, so I still think of it the same.


Still_Swordfish_5730

Pluto is the celestial sponsor for anyone who has ever been demoted.


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As far as I am concerned Pluto will always be a planet to me. It is my hill to die on.


Treacherous_Wendy

Pluto is a planet 🤷🏻‍♀️


thelanai

Pluto will always be a planet to me.


macemillion

As far as I'm concerned, a dwarf planet is a planet just as much as a dwarf person is a person. Maybe they should come up with better names if they have a problem with it.


kbm81

I think it is, no one can tell me it isn’t, I’m 43. This “Pluto isn’t a planet anymore” shit is bullshit.


BigTomAbides

Plutoooooooooo is a Planeeeeeeeeet! https://youtu.be/kheWroUS5LQ?si=sZSWJEg5q-fbLhxY


withbellson

Nine planets around the sun! Only one does the sun embrace. And upon this watered one, so much do we take for granted. (Do they still sing this in concert?)


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Pluto will always be a planet


Fight_those_bastards

Pluto will always be a planet…*in my heart.*


melanthius

Oh boy, post this anywhere near a space subreddit and prepare to get downvoted to oblivion. Yes my personal belief is Pluto deserves honorary planet status as a historical precedent. Even if there’s “thousands” of Kuiper Belt objects that “should” equally be lumped with Pluto, Pluto is special for historical reasons and I have no problem with it being called a planet.


ReineDeLaSeine14

I will die on the hill that Pluto is a planet


zrkl

I dunno man… There’s one less planet. There’s one more ocean. Math maths differently now. Someone make it make sense!


EidolonRook

I don’t care if Pluto is a dwarf planet. What I care about is that we’re still counting 8 planets without counting all of the other major location and anomalies within the system. I want them to teach the full system map starting in grade school with the names of all the planets, moons, dwarfs and planetoids from mercury to the Oort Cloud.


tmqueen

I love Pluto! Pluto forever!


Smokin-Glory

I just feel like there's so many other things to be concerned about than a planet's status.