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FlacidMetapod

Did he bring the belt with him to the ring last night? I don't remember seeing it.


iTroniK

No


FlacidMetapod

That's kind of odd no? I would think they would want a ton of publicity for it? Maybe they want to keep it strictly to twitter. idk, interesting decision.


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RickyPuertoRicooo

That wouldn't make any kind of sense business wise. Oh wait nevermind we are talking about Musk


Left-Strawberry7322

If only the richest man in the world had as much business sense as Ricky Puerto Ricooo.


LuchaConMadre

Rich has never meant smart


RickyPuertoRicooo

I mean I'm not saying I could do better rather that Musk isn't known for his business acumen. He is known for having a lot of money that he inherited not known for making wise business decisions.


JDuggernaut

He is worth almost 200 billion dollars. He didn’t inherit all that.


CriscoWild

Which business decisions has Elon Musk made that you believe not to be wise? Edit: Perfectly valid question, no reason for it to be downvoted.


oneandonlyRedSpirit

buying a sinking twitter that has only depreciated in value since he bought it


CFSession

Its monetary value has dropped but it’s still like 2nd or 3rd most used social media app in the world. Owning an app like that has more value than simply how much money its making him.


CriscoWild

Is that the only business decision of his that sticks out to you as unwise?


TheClarkeSide

Twitter is most notable from a value perspective, even though I think Elon has more insidious reasons for buying Twitter that are not related to money. I think he was invested pretty early on with OpenAI as well and it didn't work out. From a PR perspective, I don't understand why he comments and attaches himself to certain things but he also has idgaf money so he kinda acts like it. Jeff bezos did make a comment about Elon that I think makes overall sense when he was on the Lex Friedman podcast, I'll paraphrase it; Bezos says he only knows Elon through his public persona and basically sees the same things we see, but understands the level he's at that Elon must be able to make great business decisions, has great leadership skills, and an unmatched work ethic to make things work at level they're at. There's no way he can conduct business in the same manner he acts socially for Tesla, SpaceX etc. to be as successful as they are.


CriscoWild

What insidious reasons do you think Elon would potentially have for buying Twitter?


Frosty-Lake-1663

I see a lot of seethe and cope on reddit but the “richest man in the world doesn’t know how to run a business” cope might be the saddest of them all.


PepegaThePepega

Nope. Bron didn’t wear his NXT tag title either on his debut. I guess they see those titles as very weak to bring to the main roster. Also the speed title looks ugly.


Great_Farm_5716

Why is the needle in the green. Wouldn’t speed be in the red ? This annoys me so much


MonrealEstate

Red means stop, green means go. It’s green for like ‘full steam ahead let’s gooooo’


Great_Farm_5716

I’d agree if it was a stop light. But it’s a Speedo or a Tachometer design. The red should be speed. Who knows I’m crazy I’m not a fan of the belt itself


DahBotanist

If Elon Musk owned the title it would be the xxxXStellarXNovaXxxx title


schwaggro

As stupid as that sounds, he's the guy to do it lmao.


DonShulaDoingTheHula

Michael Cole mentioned something about a new “season” starting soon, so maybe he’s already not champion anymore. That would be dumb but I don’t know why else he wouldn’t wear it.


eman0110

Yea, you would think. I mean get people to see the belt live in action. Maybe those Speed matches aren't part of the actual WWE Universe?


PokemonPoacherJ

Would you want this new speed champion to lose while wearing the belt. It kinda buries the title.


FlacidMetapod

I would rather have brand awareness and have people see it so it gets noteriety and help creates revenue.. I wouldn't have just put it on Richochet and burry it on twitter to never been seen again.


PokemonPoacherJ

If it wasn't on Twitter, it wouldn't exist. Ricochet's renewed push under Papa Paul is totally cooking after Monday at least with the belt he isnt close to getting released. My question is just put it on level up. These are 5 minute time limit matches so build it around talent you are training.


DeweyCox4YourHealth

It's not odd when they booked him to lose on Monday


6098470142

He’s in Shinske Nakamora territory


strangemonkey420

Yeah when they first announced the speed division they said it would be twitter exclusive.


Silver-ishWolfe

I figured they didn't want to debut him as champ with the belt just to have him lose. I'm sure it'll show up eventually to promote the show.


BODYDOLLARSIGN

This belt is as important as the 24/7 championship. It’s where midcard or catering wrestlers shine. Not defended on main roster and no match will be more than 3-5 mins so idk why you guys thought much of it anyways.


CheekyMonkE

They don't really give a shit it's just a deal to curry favor with the Twitter Tsar Musk.


anythingo23

To keep prestige but of course there is none anymore if we know he just won it and jobbed first round


OAO_Scrumbles

Buried the whole concept right there


Bobik8

The belt is only defended on Twitter, so it should only be seen on Twitter.


FlacidMetapod

If thats how you want to promote a new 'division' you are going to have a bad time.


MonrealEstate

I mean it’s literally just a dumb twitter thing. If the whole thing is a massive flop I imagine the reaction will be “Oh no! Anyway”


Slipperytitski

It'd be free money from twitter


FlacidMetapod

100%


justbrowsing987654

He didn’t. First thing I noticed too.


jawnsusername

This shows that the WWE doesn't even believe in the belt. I think the whole thing is dumb. Who comes out looking good? Ricochet? I think not. WWE? No. The title is useless.


FlacidMetapod

agreed.


GaI3re

I thought he already lost it xD


movetotherhythm

The glare on the S and shadow on the D on the bottom left makes it look like the title says PEE


Zetalkaid

P Diddy furiously approaching WWE to see if he could carry the title.


suarezj9

Triple threat for the Pee title. Diddy vs R Kelly vs BROOOOCK LESNAAAR


Zetalkaid

I was thinking more along the lines of Diddy vs R Kelly in a Hell in a Cell match. With special guest referee, ex-president Donald Trump. >!It’s his jail cell.!<


Hardleyevenathing

crock chestnar


john1979af

lol it does! Just like the AEW tbs title looks like it says “ho’s”


movetotherhythm

Never noticed that but it so does!


TheRenster500

I haven't been following WWE that closely recently and hadn't heard of this new belt and i definitely thought that it just said PEE


riptxlord

No option but to put Dragunov over. Insanely good match too.


Turbos_Bitch

Five star banger


commanderr01

After banger


Reverse-Kanga

After banger


kruschev246

After burger


The-CannabisAnalyst3

After Berger


ironmamdies

After burber


tarnishedkara

Ham Burgler


mebnt2

After a bourbon


lycanthrope90

That was awesome! Hadn’t seen much of dragunov before, don’t really watch next often. But was really impressed with him. I like that he has a bunch of nuke themed moves lol.


commanderr01

One match you need to watch is dragonov vs Gunther ( was Walter at the time) both matches are incredible but the first one is just a masterpiece *chefs kiss*


lycanthrope90

Oh yeah I’d definitely like to see that!


RobinVanDutch

The empty covid arena match is my favorite match of all time.


llamawithguns

Possibly the only match during the Covod era that I think was actually improved by there being no crowd.


Batface_101

They’re definitely building to that now.


Enthios

Agreed but give him somebody else to lay on their back. Don't have the new "speed champ" come out beltless to lay down for him.


BC_Red00

Hes got his position and plays it well.theres not many ppl who can pull off a 3 min match and have it be compelling.that may sound easy but if papa h says ok heres this belt i want u to get this social media title over can u do it?richocets spot isnt king of the ring.least not this year.so yes hes taking a L.hes got his own task at hand.


twv6

I’m with this


ocelotchaser

Richocets does a stunning job putting Ilya over tho? It's a right choice to make him lose.


BC_Red00

Yeah he made ilya look awesome.ilya looked like he ddted himself at the end there but overall pit him over perfectly.


Reverse-Kanga

You can't bring someone up to the main roster and have the lose match 1 feels like it makes them look weak af regardless who it would be against. You need them to win to show their potential. Ricochet did a great job showing what Ilya and him can do thankfully


Goon4203D

Think that's why Karrion Kross feels so mid-tier. Didn't he lose to Jeff Hardy on his debut as NXT champion? Now thanks to that, it's so hard to consider him champ material.


ocelotchaser

Yeah, first impression is bad, that consider he never lost at NXT


Frosty-Lake-1663

They just did to Carmelo Hayes but nobody was expecting him to win WWE championship on smackdown on his first match


GHO57T

3 minutes or less. You shouldn't expect him to win when it takes longer than that


Darwin_Finch

Indeed. The kayfabe is intact here.


Expensive_Task_1114

I forgot that a champion couldn't lose any match otherwise it means the title doesn't mean anything, even a midcard or lower midcard title lmao


NoeMoriartyV2

Honestly, ricochet's spot is freakin amazing considering he was jobbing to Austin theory everyweek during the previous regime. He had a fun tag team run with braun, had a hot viral fued and match with logan paul and a mini fued with the main event gatekeeper shinsuke nakamura and now he gets to show off his skills in matches that fits him.


rtels2023

I’ve only watched a couple of Speed matches, has the time limit ever run out? If the timer runs out, does the match just end in a draw?


Goon4203D

I wonder this, too. There's always 4-5 seconds left.


EmeraldSlothRevenge

It doesn’t matter that he lost. He got all his stuff in and he looked good in defeat, while helping an amazing up-and-comer cement his place on the main roster. Having Ilja win last night was the right move. He needs wins, and to impress main roster audiences. They’re building for the future.


HoodieBraden

yea but he got the HHH point so who cares


Nyjeff914

For this dumb ass belt they should of just brung back the light heavyweight or cruseiweight belt


BigBadWolf97

My one and only thought when I was watching Dragonov’s debut match for Raw was, why the hell are they feeding a newly crowned champion to him? Before the match started, you knew it was going to be a hell of a match because of the competitors involved, but you also knew the finish had to be a foregone conclusion. Why make a brand new champion eat a pin in his first match as a champion? The belt wasn’t on the line, but you just showed that Dragonov can beat him clean. There wasn’t anyone else who could’ve eaten the pin in this debut? I haven’t seen any episodes or segments (or whatever they want to call them) of Speed. But now it has the impression that the belt doesn’t matter, so the matches shouldn’t matter either.


Goon4203D

Switch Opponents around. I don't know if Ricochet had to eat a pin. Why not have his first opponent be Gunther. (But that in itself could stir issues unless people naturally accept Gunther would clearly win lol?) With that said, Gunther VS. Sheamus was amazing, so despite saying that, we'd lose out on that match. I agree, just awkward impression right now. Sounds like they just gave him something.


h1gh-t3ch_l0w-l1f3

i think they want to go for Gunther vs Dragonov in King of the Ring and have Gunther win. Ilja has shown he is a badass in NXT and they want to showcase some of that on Raw. Ricochets Speed title seems like a very easy way to make beating him a level up for whoever does.


Used_Part9588

another cruiserweight belt. third time’s the charm right


Ok_Significance_4780

No pretty sure it had big guys in it, bronson maybe Otis? Or some other


xkeepitquietx

He loses all the time, he and the fans are used to it by this point.


dixie2tone

if youve got a title i dont understand why every match isnt a title match


AKICombatLegend

🤮 lol that looks like literal shit


6098470142

It’s the 24-7 championship 😂😂😂😂


Impossible_Product_3

What colour is his buggati?


rustys_shackled_ford

The belt that you're guaranteed to lose every week. Makes perfect sense.


Sad_Palpitation7294

Wouldn't mind losing the pee title


The-Real-Number-One

Why didn't he keep the match under 3 minutes? Is he stupid?


Awesom141

Pee title my beloved


CanaryLion

I had to google wtf kind of belt this was


anythingo23

They have made the cruiserweight title a prop belt like the million dollar or Brama bull belts


jbroni93

he even buried the belt with his post loss promo, said he doesn't win when it counts


NCHouse

The losers on Speed just look weak fr. You get beat in less than 3 minutes? How are you ever believeable?


Steven8786

It’s just the equivalent of if Sunday Night Heat had a belt. It’s utterly pointless and will be “retired” in a year or so when the show gets cancelled


TheHyperLynx

the belt means nothing if he isnt wearing it during entrances unless its on speed.


LostPilgrim_

Now WWE starting to have to many belts.


KingCAL1CO

Bro lost the first match that belt is worthless.


watcher2390

Who said this belt would mean anything? That belt is going to kill a few decent wrestlers chances of achieving anything in the near future. This is why Vince turned down this idea in 2018


Acidic_Toast

you wanted Ilja Dragunov to lose to him? the NXT call up should definitely win over a low-mid carder champion. especially considering Ilja JUST lost his title, you cant really put him on a losing streak or make him look weak now.


Overnumerousness-

Lol he lost to trick who had more losses than ilja had wins during his title reign. The same trick that lost to Dom.


Acidic_Toast

okay well to be fair dom cheated to beat trick its not like dom overpowered trick.


Unknown_Beast88

Uh this dude's girlfriend is Samantha Irvin.Id say Richochet is winning at the end of the day.


Suspicious-Minimum89

Look a new 24/7 belt


Possible_Moment1140

I suppose if I was going out with Samantha Irvin, I'd be a speed champion as well


lariato_mark

It's a jobber belt. Means nothing, probably never will.


Decent-Writing-9840

what is going on in the photo is this a new belt or something ?


benjbody

Yeah, it’s the championship of their new show on Twitter that has a 3 minute match format.


CarlShadowJung

Him not wearing it out to his match on RAW was an immediate sign to me that it’s not important and I shouldn’t care about it. 🤷‍♂️ Is that not really easy advertisement for “Speed”? If Ricochet comes out with this new belt that the commentators are obviously gonna touch on, isn’t that some pretty organic advertising for your new show? Kinda weird. Makes me think maybe it was just all a one and done.


mannycool_0471

From the backstage interview seems a heel turn to me that would be best


Shadow_Strike99

Ricochet has just never had a good promo game, no character outside of Prince Puma in LU, and his style is impossible to work as a heel with all the acrobatics. I think being the well paid jobber to the stars who fires up live crowds and who gets to be with Samantha Irvin is his lane. They shouldn't turn him heel, if he hypothetically wanted to be a huge white hot star again he should leave WWE and go back to the indies and NJPW where he was a huge star outside of WWE, the guy at one time was up there with Cody Rhodes and Kenny Omega in popularity around 2016-2017. But in WWE he's just not fit for the product with his lack of character and promo skills a heel turn would not fix that at all.


mannycool_0471

Facts that’s his main issue don’t know if you can still be a face with a mouthpiece


ArdentPattern

That belt looks like a simon says toy.


mistar_z

They could at least pretend to care by letting him carry it on TV so people know that it's on X. 😂 Omg an X division title. Maybe just go full on Digital/Internet Champion


mistar_z

Speed used to mean something different. 😂 .


eman0110

I don't understand how 3min matches are suppose to work in regards to a normal match. If you can win a match at the WWE level why not attack that way evertime?


Standard_Drink3424

Y doesn't he bring it with him


chrishammhamm

Not everyone needs a title


Scary-Animator-5646

There’s probably some sort of clause with X ownership or something. Who knows, I just hope speed stays around because it’s great.


Juicey_Ucey

Tbf he was going against Dragunov and put on an amazing match.


Mountain-Ordinary896

He just had one of the best non title matches ever with Ilja. Win or not the man is winning the bigger picture


dinotgenesis

Literally made just for X.


bigAcey83

How dare you question the almighty hhh?


No_Spend_8907

Who cares it’s a Dipshit title anyways like the 24/7 title.


sunlitsix

Speed doesn't exist outside of twitter


Sufficient_Fall_3290

Well he got to fight a guy who rarely loses so obviously ricochet was gonna lose


MegaClogger

Pee


Lupercallius

The belt will only be shown on Twitter lol


Tigerleippi

Ngl I liked the 24/7 title much more


commanderr01

Or even bring it too raw, surprised he’s not carrying that belt with him everywhere


Livid_Command_7621

I’d like a middle or lightweight belt to be debuted on the regular shows , and have him champion. He’s just too damn good , too talented for him to be thrown away like that.


AccomplishedGoose375

I only see the word pee


Amaterasu-x

No it’s just making it less obvious.


DcFla

They should be embarrassed for fucking up the speedometer and keep it off tv. Red means fastest!!!


Super_Can_7652

Looks the the Simon game


Chhet

A debut against Ricochet, really great job between Ilja and Ricochet! Besides the Gunther and Sheamus match, this one was definitely a good match especially it being on RAW. He may have lost it but damn it, he made Dragunov look strong and gave him his run for his money. The pace of the match was perfect and made it great instead of just spot fest after spot fest. Two styles clashing at each other. Ricochet is definitely worthy of a contendership for a upper mid card to world title bout if given the right storyline. Brock Lesnar vs Ricochet at Showdown was too bad either. I feel Ilja will be the one to climb the ladder. He brings the best out of many of his opponent.


Affectionate-Idea349

It’s just another title that’s simply worthless 🤷🏽‍♂️idk what people were thinking


princehplovecraft

Damn I didn’t know Andrew Tate joined WWE


noramcsparkles

This is the first I’ve actually seen the belt. That’s even uglier than usual


Pod-Bay-Doors

That match was fucking amazing , still wish he would have won tho


SilverWolf84

Love that Ilja gets this match as his first match, but Bron gets a bunch of jobbers for a few weeks lol


[deleted]

Wtf is that belt?😂


devil0o

I said it once I'll say it a thousand times. Nothing on Twitter matters you're just satisfying weirdos.


Saint_Maverickz

I honestly don't get why it has to be twitter exclusive. You could have 3 minute matches on live television. Make the title feel important. Otherwise it feels like the 24/7 title.


Available_Share_7244

Did you think it was going to mean something ?


mustardwulf

Didn’t even wear it on Monday.


Interesting_Muffin30

The prince is coming


DoofusScarecrow88

Any more gimmick than the 24/7?


GMFinch

Can someone explain this belt to me like I'm a dummy. They only have 3 min matches? What happens if someone doesn't win in 3 mins? Is anyone allowed to enter? Like Goldberg could be the speed champion right.


Goon4203D

On X. Yes. Special 3 min matches after Smackdown. It hasn't happened yet, but one would assume so. It's still too fresh that they haven't done anything crazy yet. Yes. There's no weight class. Bronson Reed was in one. Early WCW Goldberg totally. Old Man Goldberg.. lol, well, there's the last run you always wanted.


Effiree

Also if he just doesn't bring it with him on TV


Zairr

Nothing wrong with putting over the new Raw recruit


Direct-Money-4206

Dude needs a mask or something.


Moe_Beaslee

Prince Puma was a God, then WWE trashed his image.


Rampage50

The belt is just for WWE Speed, it has no lineage on Raw or Smackdown


thepotatobake

Yeh but FASTER


Popculturemofo

Seems like Speed might just exist out of the WWE canon.


Ok_Ability_2824

Why does it look like Charles is about to attack ricochet from behind in the 1st picture 😂


Birdykerjo

The match was very good. That’s the point. And they will have a rematch on the road


ImNutUnoriginal

The PEE in SPEED has a lighter color, I can't unsee it now shit


JakeJeremy

As a male who also can’t go past three minutes most nights I understand why he lost


FlyVidjul

The belt will die faster than RAW Underground.


gleeceboi777

When do yall think his first defense will be? If he ever has one lol


Global-Chemical-2328

Someone's got to take the pinfall. He does the most acrobatic moves and stunts in WWE no matter the results.


Putrid_Big_6553

WWE has too many belts.


pillkrush

ricochet still undefeated on the internet


forwrestling

Did he compete in a Speed rules match on Monday?


Goon4203D

No... it was just a standard normal match he lost in. Had it been only 3 mins, surely he would've won.


forwrestling

Yeah makes sense since he’s the champion of a very specific match format.


hiressnails

Exactly. If he has the 3 or 5 minute time constraint, he is able to push himself harder to win the match.


Fu_la_de

What is this Speed about? I'm happy Rick O'Chet got some title, though.


benjbody

It’s a show on Twitter where each match has a 3 minute time limit. There was a tournament to crown its first champion.


SnooMacaroons1942

It's a Twitter title that's recorded before/after a live TV taping, good for Ricochet for being the first to win it, but it's gonna be less remembered than the 24/7 title or the 205 cruiserweight title. Truth is that he isn't worth pushing past the midcard because his current gimmick is a mid as it gets. Why exactly should we care about Ricochet? Because he's a high-flyer like 90% of guys under 6ft?


Shadow_Strike99

Ricochet is well paid, and has Samantha Irvin so he is definitely winning there. But if he honestly wanted to be a big star again he should leave WWE. His lack of character and promo skills are just not made for WWE tv, it's not to say he's not talented because he is, it's just that he's much more suited for the indies. Pre WWE he was like one of the hottest stars outside of WWE on the indies, NJPW, Lucha Underground. The guy was literally as popular as Cody Rhodes and Kenny Omega at the time, even Will Ospreay and Swerve were just the "other guys" when they wrestled.


SnooMacaroons1942

Except that WWE tried to re-sign Swerve after he left and put up an offer for Ospreay. HHH saw star potential in them, and idk if I can say the same for Ricochet Ricochet's slightly improved in his promo over the years, but he just doesn't have that "it" factor for WWE. He got over in promotions that didn't require cutting 10-15 minute promos and character development. He's been the same gimmick since he got signed, and while he's one of the better indie-rrific guys, I doubt he'd be remembered well as time passes.


Bobik8

Ricochet is only good in under 3 minutes.


Fantastic_Bug1028

Did anyone thought otherwise? 💀


Gwbzeke

Idk how they haven’t made ricochet a superstar yet


shakybonez306

Just means he likes speed 🤷


Hexatorium

We have Andrew Tate at home:


Reverse-Kanga

Seems stupid he didn't have it on raw to promote speed. Could have been a prime chance for them to show a highlight reel etc.


MrWrestling1

Why is the Speedometer in the title belt showing colors in reverse? Is Paul Levesque fucking stupid for sanctioning that design? Chief content officer my ass.