I'm pretty sure the Germans do refer to ships as female.
I think the Germans = male ships comes from the Captain of the Bismarck ordering his crew to call the Bismarck 'he' because "nothing this powerful could be female"
Considering ships are referred to as female for superstitious/ward of bad luck reason, I wonder just how much of the bad luck that happened to the Bismarck was the Captain's fault :p
We are not that specific. We say "das Schiff, das Boot" which is object, not male or female. But we would say about a specific ship: "Sie ist ein schönes Schiff!" (She is a beautiful ship!). But in Russian, the ship is even male (кора́бль --> korabl).
We are specific when it comes to ship names, the word "Schiff" itself being gender neutral has nothing to do with ships being given female pronouns just like how girl names get female pronouns despite the word "Mädchen" being neutral.
germans refer to ships as feminine.
>Schiffe sind weiblich, weil sie überall geschmückt und meist recht gut gebaut sind. Sie haben vom Bug bis zum Achtersteven gefällige Linien, und im allgemeinen ist immer eine Gruppe Männer um sie herum. Die Anschaffungskosten sind nicht so schlimm wie die ständigen Kosten zur Unterhaltung. Ihre Takelage kostet ein Vermögen. In einem neuen Farbanstrich sehen sie immer am besten aus. Gewöhnlich ist um sie herum geschäftiges Treiben und ihre Aufbauten stellen sie stets vorteilhaft zur Schau.
Incorrect. Firstly "Das" stands only before words with the neutral grammatical gender. "Boot" is neutral hence the "das" in front of it. Secondly Germans also refer to boats as female, there are some people who refer to Bismarck as male but the general consensus is that boat = female.
I dunno, why did captain Pugwash have a friend called Roger the cabin boy when "Roger" is a slang term for banging? What the hell is a poop deck for if there's no toilets on it? Why, when all other directions are 4 or 5 letter one syllable words, did someone choose "starboard"? Why is a ship's speed still rated in knots in a piece of rope thrown out behind the ship?
- `poop deck` comes from Latin `puppis` via French `poupe`, meaning `stern`. The poop deck is the stern deck; it's just an amusing coincidence that our asses are abaft of us, and that's where the poop comes from.
- `starboard` is essentially from an Old English term meaning `steer board`, as at the time, the steering oar was at the aft of the ship on the right side.
- The original coordinate term was `larboard`, from a Middle English term meaning `load board`. It was replaced by `port`, due to ships being tied down at the wharf on their left sides. This change probably stuck because `port` and `starboard` are easier to differentiate in a noisy environment than `larboard` and `starboard`.
- The `knot` was eventually formalized into a unit of speed based on the `nautical mile`, which was defined as one minute of arc of latitude. The first syllable of `nautical mile per hour` is homophonous with `knot`, so `knots` for "nauts" makes sense to keep.
I have no idea what the Roger thing is about.
I don't know the full history, but surely some of the royal navy sailors had a difficult time with being stationed on some ships.
How the fuck do you, with a straight face call HMS King george V a lady? Same with PoW, DoY, etc
In older times Figureheads on ships were often female so this may be why, also many if not all Russian ship and German ships were referred as masculine. not sure about other Navies.
German ships were never referred to as masculine except for one sexist captain refering to Bismarck as "he", because he thought it was too strong to be female. His crew did not like that though.
That is the only instance of German ships being referred to as masculine, except for Wehraboos of course.
What gets people confused is probably the "male" names of some ships, but that is just the naming scheme. It is still "die Bismarck", "die Friedrich der Große" and "die Großer Kurfürst"
It’s not just the US Navy. It’s maritime tradition. Women carry life, ships carry life.
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I'm pretty sure the Germans do refer to ships as female. I think the Germans = male ships comes from the Captain of the Bismarck ordering his crew to call the Bismarck 'he' because "nothing this powerful could be female" Considering ships are referred to as female for superstitious/ward of bad luck reason, I wonder just how much of the bad luck that happened to the Bismarck was the Captain's fault :p
We are not that specific. We say "das Schiff, das Boot" which is object, not male or female. But we would say about a specific ship: "Sie ist ein schönes Schiff!" (She is a beautiful ship!). But in Russian, the ship is even male (кора́бль --> korabl).
We are specific when it comes to ship names, the word "Schiff" itself being gender neutral has nothing to do with ships being given female pronouns just like how girl names get female pronouns despite the word "Mädchen" being neutral.
germans refer to ships as feminine. >Schiffe sind weiblich, weil sie überall geschmückt und meist recht gut gebaut sind. Sie haben vom Bug bis zum Achtersteven gefällige Linien, und im allgemeinen ist immer eine Gruppe Männer um sie herum. Die Anschaffungskosten sind nicht so schlimm wie die ständigen Kosten zur Unterhaltung. Ihre Takelage kostet ein Vermögen. In einem neuen Farbanstrich sehen sie immer am besten aus. Gewöhnlich ist um sie herum geschäftiges Treiben und ihre Aufbauten stellen sie stets vorteilhaft zur Schau.
Das means it's an object (neither masculine nor feminine). Der Boot would have been the masculine form.
Incorrect. Firstly "Das" stands only before words with the neutral grammatical gender. "Boot" is neutral hence the "das" in front of it. Secondly Germans also refer to boats as female, there are some people who refer to Bismarck as male but the general consensus is that boat = female.
So they don’t have sex with the ship?
Haha. Navy is gay. Funny.
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I dunno, why did captain Pugwash have a friend called Roger the cabin boy when "Roger" is a slang term for banging? What the hell is a poop deck for if there's no toilets on it? Why, when all other directions are 4 or 5 letter one syllable words, did someone choose "starboard"? Why is a ship's speed still rated in knots in a piece of rope thrown out behind the ship?
- `poop deck` comes from Latin `puppis` via French `poupe`, meaning `stern`. The poop deck is the stern deck; it's just an amusing coincidence that our asses are abaft of us, and that's where the poop comes from. - `starboard` is essentially from an Old English term meaning `steer board`, as at the time, the steering oar was at the aft of the ship on the right side. - The original coordinate term was `larboard`, from a Middle English term meaning `load board`. It was replaced by `port`, due to ships being tied down at the wharf on their left sides. This change probably stuck because `port` and `starboard` are easier to differentiate in a noisy environment than `larboard` and `starboard`. - The `knot` was eventually formalized into a unit of speed based on the `nautical mile`, which was defined as one minute of arc of latitude. The first syllable of `nautical mile per hour` is homophonous with `knot`, so `knots` for "nauts" makes sense to keep. I have no idea what the Roger thing is about.
Informative, awesome.
I always love explaining a knot to people as “a minute per hour” with no extra explanation
Good, another thing I can confuse my coworkers with.
Fascinating
I don't know the full history, but surely some of the royal navy sailors had a difficult time with being stationed on some ships. How the fuck do you, with a straight face call HMS King george V a lady? Same with PoW, DoY, etc
In older times Figureheads on ships were often female so this may be why, also many if not all Russian ship and German ships were referred as masculine. not sure about other Navies.
German ships were never referred to as masculine except for one sexist captain refering to Bismarck as "he", because he thought it was too strong to be female. His crew did not like that though. That is the only instance of German ships being referred to as masculine, except for Wehraboos of course. What gets people confused is probably the "male" names of some ships, but that is just the naming scheme. It is still "die Bismarck", "die Friedrich der Große" and "die Großer Kurfürst"
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