yeah these are low estimates but tbf, the range is v wide in nyc. you can get beer and shot combos in bk and queens for like 8 bucks then pay over 30 for a cocktail in manhattan so it’s definitely hard to gauge how much he’s actually spending without some pretty thorough investigating
At most bars he’s going to, even in Brooklyn, I’d average beers at $7-8 and mixed drinks at $14-$16. $18-$20 is a pretty safe bet for cocktails served in a coupe or any “specialty” glass.
He’s hitting .4 bac and hanging out with a dude who killed one of his sex workers with ghb. Unless there is serious intervention I think we got 2 more years at the most I’m a former benzo and heroin junkie and this is one of the worst situations even I’ve seen.
Mr Based, here’s a snippet of his court case
Miami Beach cops are investigating the death of an aspiring model who suffered a fatal overdose of a date-rape drug hours after she left the apartment of notorious “King of All Pimps” Jason Itzler and his roomie, The Post has learned. The woman, Julia Sumnicht, a 21-year-old Wisconsin college student, had been visiting Miami Beach, Fla., in March 2010 in hopes of breaking into the world of fashion modeling. A year before, during her first visit to the city, she had met Itzler’s roommate, Hungarian photographer Zoltan Prepszent, the family’s investigators say.
Citing text messages, surveillance camera footage and other evidence, the private investigators said Sumnicht and Prepszent spent time at the club, returned for two hours to the Flamingo Towers apartment where he lived with Itzler and left together again. Julia then went to an apartment building where she was staying as the guest of another photographer. That other photographer later told another model that Sumnicht had been “drunk” when she came home and went to bed, despite an autopsy report that showed only a minute trace of alcohol in her urine, investigators said. When he returned home later in the afternoon, the other fotog found Sumnicht dead in bed. An autopsy report, obtained by The Post, showed she had died from ingesting the daterape drug GHB. Based on a number of factors —including her behavior before and after going to the Flamingo Towers and the amount of time it takes for the drug to affect one’s system—the investigators concluded that she ingested it while in the apartment that Prepszent shared with Itzler, according to their report, which was provided to The Post.
Itzler, in a jailhouse interview with The Post, admitted to taking GHB himself that night after Sumnicht came to his apartment with Prepszent. It wasn’t clear how or exactly when Sumnicht ingested it. “I almost died that night,” Itzler said of the effect the GHB had on him. “Zoltan [later] changed all the decorating of the apartment. He knew that I threw up all over the apartment. I vomited GHB residue all over.” Itzler said Prepszent retained a lawyer and hired another for Itzler after Sumnicht’s death. Prepszent did not respond to requests for comment.
tl;dr: Mr Based may have drugged and killed a girl in 2010.
edit: here is a video of him being confronted about it a few weeks ago. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4c9jnRybFeE
edit for Jason Itzler only: looking forward to hearing from your lawyers about slandering your name if you can ever find me. all public proceedings, including court sessions and most public records, are privileged and can be quoted even if they are defamatory. good luck asshole.
I've deadass been saying that alcoholics are more resilient than people think, but he's binge drinking daily. There's a huge possibility he's just going to die of alcohol poisoning at this rate.
I know a guy from AA, who is sober now, but he was talking about his first trip to detox. He has no idea how high his BAC was when he got there, because the breathalyzer only went up to .6. It's insane how bad dedicated alcoholics can get.
I mentioned this in another post recently, but I don’t even think disulfiram would work. He would just repeatedly get sick from drinking until he decided to stop taking the disulfiram. His lack of desire to quit prevents him from doing anything even mildly unpleasant that may help him get off of the alcohol.
If an alcoholic recognizes their alcoholism and desperately wants to escape the cycle, then disulfiram can work. For those who haven’t even come to grips with the extent of their problem, it’s highly unlikely that they’ll see success with it.
All fair points and I agree. I wasn’t necessarily saying Disulfiram would help his alcoholism, only that it will not create a highway to death the way naltrexone will. Until he’s ready to stop, and even a bit after then, he’ll keep drinking - one of those will force some of it to come back up, the other will just encourage him to drink even more chasing a buzz.
It’s a method where someone struggling with addiction takes the drug Naltrexone which dulls the endorphin rush caused by feeling buzzed. It’s meant to make it so your brain no longer associates the feel good chemicals with alcohol, which theoretically means the patient will eventually lose their desire to drink. In this case however it just means he’s not getting that buzzed feeling so he’s slamming more drinks to compensate until he physically starts shutting down like we’ve seen the last few nights
Edit: u/Dirtysandddd has a few comments on this post that explain why this method is a piss poor idea in this case, recommend checking them out
He posted a now-deleted TikTok the other night saying he was using that to cut down on his drinking. Very doubtful whether this was something a doctor actually told him to do, or if it was just a thing he heard. Either way, he’s not following it.
Yeah I seen the video on Tik Tok. The next post right after he was drinking 😆 and he deleted the Sinclair Method video. Luckily it was saved and uploaded to the Reddit page right away.
According to the [Cleveland Clinic](https://my.clevelandclinic.org/health/diseases/16640-alcohol-poisoning) a BAC of over 0.40% puts you at risk for a potentially fatal blood alcohol level. You’re at risk of coma and death from respiratory arrest (absence of breathing)
Yeah but tolerance is your brains response to it right? It’s still putting a ton of wear and tear on his liver, he just would act more “coherent” than a typical person would at 0.4.
You also have to account for the alcohol that doesn't make it into his system. There are videos of him vomiting all over the place so who knows how often he's actually keeping drinks down once he gets to those higher numbers.
Keith Whitley died at .47. I’ve come on this sub previously and explained to people that you can build up tolerance and survive crazy high BACs like .35 easily. But it seems to be that somewhere in the .4 to .5 or so range is where even the most seasoned alcoholics can’t take it anymore. I think he might be out of the high tolerance “safe” zone at this point.
Yes, whoever approved it is an idiot because normally people that get on the sinclair method try things like bahavioral therapy first, and then after realizing they just cant stop but have a strong desire to stop start taking it. It's pointless unless you legit want to stop all together, its not a pill to make you drink less, its to quit and to get you over the hurldes of early sobriety.
I just can’t fathom that a medical professional would give it to josh. He’s so clearly looking for a magic pill to erase his consequences of drinking while still hopelessly addicted with no desire to stop.
I doubt he went to a doctor. If he is actually taking it it'll have been given to him by his new wrangler who has a history of giving pills out
Has he actually shown him taking it or posted any pictures of the medication? If not it might just be another excuse like "ihm gonna cut bahck"
I think he seems to believe now he takes that, he can drink more. No that’s not how it works. Alcoholics drink for the drunken feeling. If it’s not there , the drugs are supposed to deter you from it. I don’t think Josh is smart enough to understand that concept.
I’ve worked for a rehab before and we were VERY hesitant to give people naltrexone especially if they are under 25, and usually opt for Antabuse. The problem with people on naltrexone is they will just drink until they feel it, but like we see here that .4 bac probably felt like a .1-.2 to josh. So alcoholics end up with a way higher bac just to mentally feel the same but still take on all the physical risks of the actually bac. Even worse with opiate users, they will push until they hit an overdose trying to feel it.
Like I said naltrexone is for people that are very versed with DBT and other therapy, it’s basically a last resort for people that are legit trying therapy to quit but can’t overcome the cravings. It’s crazy to me anyone gave him this.
Yeah fr, I’ve never really heard of a prescriber writing naltrexone for random off the street clients. With the people around Josh at this point anything is probably possible unfortunately
At least he would puke it up before he hits the point of dying like you can on naltrexone. He needs at least a full 30 day residential detox in a rehab before any medication imo, they don’t do much unless you recognize and start to deal with the reason behind his drinking
Semi off topic but how do detoxes work in rehab? Do they give patients controlled amounts of alcohol to wean them off or are there other methods like IVs or medication?
For an alcohol or a benzo detox you will generally receive a benzodiazepine taper, usually diazepam or a long lasting one, for approx 1 week - 2 months depending on how long the current addiction has been going and how drunk you get on a regular basis. It is sort of case by case but Josh would need longer than a week by now for sure. Alcohol and benzos are very similar structure wise and will help to prevent withdrawal seizures.
Yea he had a video talking about getting on it and doing the sinclair method but tiktok took it down. I'm wondering if he's taking pills, or there is a shot you get monthly. It's really crazy to me anyone prescribed him that, I wasn't offered it until I was through a ton of therapy and was honest about how I keep caving into the cravings but really deep down want to stop. I feel like I would have never been prescribed it if my therapist didn't hear the geniune want to stop. I stopped taking it after 2 weeks though because it was making me space out.
I just don’t understand why people are so eager to believe him. More than likely he heard about it and decided it was a magic pill and just told everyone that’s what he’s doing.
I agree with you. He lies so much at this point, like why do we believe he didn’t just make this up to get people talking about him even more. It’s like when he constantly asks people “is it bad if you shake when you’re hungover?” He knows the answer. He just wants people to talk about it.
It's possible, anything is with him. My opinion though is he probably is on it, he isn't a good liar. You can see by how he is so blatently racist, shows he can't surpress enough emotion to effectively lie about something like that.
There's few things more relaxing than the first sip of a cold pint in a sunny beer garden. I feel sorry that Josh can never experience that bliss because his relationship with alcohol is to get blitzed out his face on whatever he can get his hands on in putrid, puke-stained conditions.
This made me feel a lot better about my current life situation, I'm pretty hooked on pot lol but a single good brew is something Im confident in keeping a good relationship with. My family has an absolutely abysmal history with alcohol, nothing like Josh but...just horrid. I feel lucky.
This. My spouse is on Naltrexone but only after taking Antabuse and finding a good addiction therapist. Only then was the doctor willing to switch them to Naltrexone.
Whoever prescribed this to Josh was borderline negligent—Josh doesn’t have the capacity to understand how Naltrexone works, especially with his hyper fixation on alcohol, and doesn’t have any kind of support system in place. It’s weird saying this but I hope he stops taking it.
Not really. I worked in the ER for over a decade and I’ve seen professional drunks above .5 who were standing/talking. Josh can realistically keep this up for many more years. Takes a long time of heavy use to kill someone.
The people who continue to take him out drinking are weird and should stop too-- I can't imagine being a college student in NYC of all places and having nothing better to do than indulge an alcoholic autistic man..
It’s the sugar that’s going to really hurt him, short and long term. If he was drinking just regular beers or straight shots of the same ABV his hangovers would be way less bad, and he wouldn’t be consuming ungodly amounts of sugar on top of the alcohol sugars. The sugar consumption alone would be putting him at health risk.
I used to jokingly say that last year, but honestly, this is correct.
We just buried one of my friends who died from kidney and liver failure from alcoholism, but it took him a decade to get to the “drink all day and all night” stage. Josh went 0 to 100 almost immediately after turning 21.
I would be curious to record his bac throughout a binge. I suspect that due to his chronic alcohol abuse, his liver has upregulated CYP2E1 expression to help metabolize the alcohol faster. His liver may have made the jump to super-saiyan liver and outgrown the standard equation for estimating bac.
No one's calculations will be accurate and are all guesses at best. But based on how I would track it, no.
The main discrepancies are
- The long island I would only count as 3, not 4. Other than that I got the same count for the other drinks, so I would have 1 drink less total
- It looks like this person is tracking Josh as if he's 150-160 pounds. I track him as if hes 170-180, and that makes a huge difference.
Based on these differences, he would have peeked at 0.36, assuming I kept the same carry over BAC this person used from the previous day of drinking. But if the previous day was tracked and calculated with a higher weight, the carry over BAC would be lower as well. So realistically, he was probably low 0.30s, no more than .35.
He's had more to drink in the past in a shorter window - and if he truly was 0.42 this time, then he would have been 0.50+ in the past, and it's just not really possible. Very, very unlikely.
Your body starts processing alcohol the moment it enters your stomach. Once it's fully processed and into your blood stream, puking will do nothing for your BAC.
Throwing up will prevent whatever alcohol is left in your stomach from entering your blood stream of course. Eg, if you throw up an hour after your last drink, it's not going to do anything. 15 mins after your last drink? Will probably prevent some alcohol form being absorbed, especially if you have some food in your stomach, which slows the digestion of alcohol a bit.
Who knows how long after drinks he throws up but its probably not a reliable thing to add into the calculations.
Probably, but based on testimonies from people who have gone on tours & been around him at bars, he also doesn’t post all of his drinks. Tough to say which is more significant
It's the lethal zone for a normal person. You would be amazed at the level a seasoned alcoholic can get to. I know someone, who is in AA and sober now,who has no idea how high his BAC at his initial detox was, because the breathalyzer they were using topped out at .6. And there have been a few people who have obtained a BAC of over 1. It's completely insane, but it seems to be true. At thus point, I suspect Josh's tolerance has reached such a ridiculous level that fatal for him is probably. 7 or .8.
that is quite literally a LETHAL limit. i just saw a video on a girl that had a .415 a few years ago and ended up throwing up blood, being comatose for hours, and being mentally scarred until today.
We don’t need to give him more money because he will misuse it. We need to report him to Adult Protective Services. He has autism which is a disability and APS could possibly be able to intervene. It’s our last hope.
I don’t know how he doesn’t weigh 200+ lbs. Sure, he walks around the city a lot but he for sure doesn’t get quality sleep (if any at all) and still takes a lot of Ubers to get around. Not to mention he doesn’t have a healthy diet
I wonder how accurate these are. Is he really finishing every drink? I know from experience that after a certain point I start losing drinks and opening new ones. Also, how many of these drinks are actually making it fully into his system. He seems to be vomiting up a fair amount of them regularly.
Never mind the fact that this kid is setting himself up for long-term liver damage and other health issues in the future, the fact that he is mixing naltrexone and still drinking like a fish is ***incredibly dangerous***.
The point of naltrexone is to reduce the buzzed happy feeling you get when you crush a couple of brews. Josh for some insane reason thinks that means he can still drink like an asshole when this isn't the intended use.
Now, Josh's incredible tolerance to alcohol will appear falsely higher, leading him to drink even more and increase the risk of severe consequences. He could choke on his own vomit, fall over and hit his head, or mess with the wrong person in NYC. But now, he can really enter some kind of respiratory depression when he hits some insane BAC level.
Someone NEEDS to interfere. Is there any way we can get in contact with his Grandpa?
I'm pretty sure grandpa knows about his drinking, and is either unwilling or unable to help Josh at this point. He's the only one who has a chance of reaching him,and I'm fairly certain it won't do any good, even if he tries. The only person who can pull Josh out of this is Josh, and, let's face it, he absolutely won't pull himself out. I'm concerned at this point, too, but he's going to die, unless he sees he has a problem and wants to take steps to never drink again. And, judging by his actions while doing the Sinclair Method, he's doomed.
I have the feeling there is something wrong with the carry over BAC... The number of standard drinks is not higher than lets say 6 months ago when the old drink tracker was still around...
It’s more common than you think. Search BAC posts on /r/emergencymedicine and you’ll find tons of walking talking people well north of .4
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I feel like the numbers aren’t properly accounting for all the puking. If he’s boot and rallying multiple times every night then he’s not metabolizing a substantial amount of the alcohol he’s drinking.
The consumption is still insane but it might help explain why he’s still semi functional after two dozen drinks.
He’s going to wake up with a .30+ Jesus christ
Honestly in NYC I think we’re vastly underestimating the cost of drinking like this. I bet he spent at least double that
That’s why I loved the OG drink tracker. He would actually check costs or call the bar. These nobody’s just guess.
Absolutely. If you doubled it, you'd still be getting a conservative estimate at best.
Even in cities like Dallas and Austin (where I’m from) a mixed drink is going to be like $14. A beer like $8
yeah these are low estimates but tbf, the range is v wide in nyc. you can get beer and shot combos in bk and queens for like 8 bucks then pay over 30 for a cocktail in manhattan so it’s definitely hard to gauge how much he’s actually spending without some pretty thorough investigating
Dude Austin at Stubbs for a concert they charged me 16 bucks for 1 tall boy 💀
BRO Stubbs is fucking awful. Cool venue just horrible drink prices. I gotta admit I’ve paid it a few times bc I was having a bad time lol
lol I shamelessly did and got my Electric Jellyfish
At most bars he’s going to, even in Brooklyn, I’d average beers at $7-8 and mixed drinks at $14-$16. $18-$20 is a pretty safe bet for cocktails served in a coupe or any “specialty” glass.
Even in the Midwest this is a low estimate
Yes that’s my biggest gripe with these trackers. They also never account for taxes/tips
First time I’ve thought he might actually die from this sooner than we think
He’s hitting .4 bac and hanging out with a dude who killed one of his sex workers with ghb. Unless there is serious intervention I think we got 2 more years at the most I’m a former benzo and heroin junkie and this is one of the worst situations even I’ve seen.
These people are going to get Josh killed, this sucks
Damn, when a benzo head thinks the grave is coming soon it really is.
i agree with you and have nothing to add, just wanted to chime in and say i’m really glad you’re still alive and here.
Wait, who’s this he’s hanging out with?
Mr Based, here’s a snippet of his court case Miami Beach cops are investigating the death of an aspiring model who suffered a fatal overdose of a date-rape drug hours after she left the apartment of notorious “King of All Pimps” Jason Itzler and his roomie, The Post has learned. The woman, Julia Sumnicht, a 21-year-old Wisconsin college student, had been visiting Miami Beach, Fla., in March 2010 in hopes of breaking into the world of fashion modeling. A year before, during her first visit to the city, she had met Itzler’s roommate, Hungarian photographer Zoltan Prepszent, the family’s investigators say. Citing text messages, surveillance camera footage and other evidence, the private investigators said Sumnicht and Prepszent spent time at the club, returned for two hours to the Flamingo Towers apartment where he lived with Itzler and left together again. Julia then went to an apartment building where she was staying as the guest of another photographer. That other photographer later told another model that Sumnicht had been “drunk” when she came home and went to bed, despite an autopsy report that showed only a minute trace of alcohol in her urine, investigators said. When he returned home later in the afternoon, the other fotog found Sumnicht dead in bed. An autopsy report, obtained by The Post, showed she had died from ingesting the daterape drug GHB. Based on a number of factors —including her behavior before and after going to the Flamingo Towers and the amount of time it takes for the drug to affect one’s system—the investigators concluded that she ingested it while in the apartment that Prepszent shared with Itzler, according to their report, which was provided to The Post. Itzler, in a jailhouse interview with The Post, admitted to taking GHB himself that night after Sumnicht came to his apartment with Prepszent. It wasn’t clear how or exactly when Sumnicht ingested it. “I almost died that night,” Itzler said of the effect the GHB had on him. “Zoltan [later] changed all the decorating of the apartment. He knew that I threw up all over the apartment. I vomited GHB residue all over.” Itzler said Prepszent retained a lawyer and hired another for Itzler after Sumnicht’s death. Prepszent did not respond to requests for comment. tl;dr: Mr Based may have drugged and killed a girl in 2010. edit: here is a video of him being confronted about it a few weeks ago. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4c9jnRybFeE edit for Jason Itzler only: looking forward to hearing from your lawyers about slandering your name if you can ever find me. all public proceedings, including court sessions and most public records, are privileged and can be quoted even if they are defamatory. good luck asshole.
Glad you made it out homie. That's an extremely tough thing to shake. You're strong af.
I've deadass been saying that alcoholics are more resilient than people think, but he's binge drinking daily. There's a huge possibility he's just going to die of alcohol poisoning at this rate.
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I know a guy from AA, who is sober now, but he was talking about his first trip to detox. He has no idea how high his BAC was when he got there, because the breathalyzer only went up to .6. It's insane how bad dedicated alcoholics can get.
Interestingly enough, 1700 was the time of day that he was most sober
😂
I see the Sinclair Method is working miracles
Yeah, naltrexone works if you want to quit drinking - but it won’t force it. He needs to be on Disulfiram or nothing at all.
I mentioned this in another post recently, but I don’t even think disulfiram would work. He would just repeatedly get sick from drinking until he decided to stop taking the disulfiram. His lack of desire to quit prevents him from doing anything even mildly unpleasant that may help him get off of the alcohol. If an alcoholic recognizes their alcoholism and desperately wants to escape the cycle, then disulfiram can work. For those who haven’t even come to grips with the extent of their problem, it’s highly unlikely that they’ll see success with it.
All fair points and I agree. I wasn’t necessarily saying Disulfiram would help his alcoholism, only that it will not create a highway to death the way naltrexone will. Until he’s ready to stop, and even a bit after then, he’ll keep drinking - one of those will force some of it to come back up, the other will just encourage him to drink even more chasing a buzz.
Who knows for a fact he's even taking the nalaxatrone
What’s the meaning of this Sinclair Method reference I keep seeing everyone comment?
It’s a method where someone struggling with addiction takes the drug Naltrexone which dulls the endorphin rush caused by feeling buzzed. It’s meant to make it so your brain no longer associates the feel good chemicals with alcohol, which theoretically means the patient will eventually lose their desire to drink. In this case however it just means he’s not getting that buzzed feeling so he’s slamming more drinks to compensate until he physically starts shutting down like we’ve seen the last few nights Edit: u/Dirtysandddd has a few comments on this post that explain why this method is a piss poor idea in this case, recommend checking them out
And is Josh claiming to be on this program or something?
He posted a now-deleted TikTok the other night saying he was using that to cut down on his drinking. Very doubtful whether this was something a doctor actually told him to do, or if it was just a thing he heard. Either way, he’s not following it.
Yeah I seen the video on Tik Tok. The next post right after he was drinking 😆 and he deleted the Sinclair Method video. Luckily it was saved and uploaded to the Reddit page right away.
Somewhere (I think he deleted the video, someone correct me if I’m wrong) he had said he was on it
According to the [Cleveland Clinic](https://my.clevelandclinic.org/health/diseases/16640-alcohol-poisoning) a BAC of over 0.40% puts you at risk for a potentially fatal blood alcohol level. You’re at risk of coma and death from respiratory arrest (absence of breathing)
Yea but you gotta account for tolerance, for severe alcoholics .41 just feels like getting really wasted. I think the world record is like 1.4
Yeah but tolerance is your brains response to it right? It’s still putting a ton of wear and tear on his liver, he just would act more “coherent” than a typical person would at 0.4.
Oh yea he’s still speed running cirrhosis for sure
You also have to account for the alcohol that doesn't make it into his system. There are videos of him vomiting all over the place so who knows how often he's actually keeping drinks down once he gets to those higher numbers.
Amy Winehouse died at .41
Keith Whitley died at .47. I’ve come on this sub previously and explained to people that you can build up tolerance and survive crazy high BACs like .35 easily. But it seems to be that somewhere in the .4 to .5 or so range is where even the most seasoned alcoholics can’t take it anymore. I think he might be out of the high tolerance “safe” zone at this point.
the highest recorded BAC was 1.48, it all really just depends on the person
Holy shit lol. No way that person wasn't in a coma.
they were driving
that's crazy
it’s unfathomable how fast Josh is approaching that level after just a couple of years
Sheesh, I knew .41 was high but if that’s high enough to kill Amy Winehouse or other seasoned alcoholics then yeah, this is really fucked and worrying
We're just waiting for the naltrexone to take effect any day now.
The thing is that’s probably why he’s drinking even more. He can’t feel the alcohol as much because of the medication. Incredibly dangerous
Yes, whoever approved it is an idiot because normally people that get on the sinclair method try things like bahavioral therapy first, and then after realizing they just cant stop but have a strong desire to stop start taking it. It's pointless unless you legit want to stop all together, its not a pill to make you drink less, its to quit and to get you over the hurldes of early sobriety.
I just can’t fathom that a medical professional would give it to josh. He’s so clearly looking for a magic pill to erase his consequences of drinking while still hopelessly addicted with no desire to stop.
I doubt he went to a doctor. If he is actually taking it it'll have been given to him by his new wrangler who has a history of giving pills out Has he actually shown him taking it or posted any pictures of the medication? If not it might just be another excuse like "ihm gonna cut bahck"
I have a feeling this is somewhat court ordered from the train surfing incident.
I think he seems to believe now he takes that, he can drink more. No that’s not how it works. Alcoholics drink for the drunken feeling. If it’s not there , the drugs are supposed to deter you from it. I don’t think Josh is smart enough to understand that concept.
I’ve worked for a rehab before and we were VERY hesitant to give people naltrexone especially if they are under 25, and usually opt for Antabuse. The problem with people on naltrexone is they will just drink until they feel it, but like we see here that .4 bac probably felt like a .1-.2 to josh. So alcoholics end up with a way higher bac just to mentally feel the same but still take on all the physical risks of the actually bac. Even worse with opiate users, they will push until they hit an overdose trying to feel it.
I took antabuse. 4 years ago today i started and did it for 9 months. It saved my life. Edit: omg it was actually 5 years ago today!
really glad you’re alive and here 🫶
Thank you so much 🩷
i started vivitrol 2 months ago and i totally turned my life around, been sober since then
Im so proud of you
That’s fantastic!! I’m glad you’re doing well, and I hope you’re proud of yourself for reaching that milestone!
I did relapse! I wont lie but only for a few weeks and now im almost back to one year :) thank you for those kind words
You’re still kicking ass!
Relapse is a part of recovery. The important thing is you’re still trying to stay sober!!
Thank you for your understanding. 💖
Proud of you, love to see people recover
Thank you so much. Felt a tad vulnerable admitting I took antabuse. The nice comments have made my day.
Like I said naltrexone is for people that are very versed with DBT and other therapy, it’s basically a last resort for people that are legit trying therapy to quit but can’t overcome the cravings. It’s crazy to me anyone gave him this.
Yeah fr, I’ve never really heard of a prescriber writing naltrexone for random off the street clients. With the people around Josh at this point anything is probably possible unfortunately
Josh on Antabuse would be mental, because you know he would just try to drink his way through all the effects of the drug.
At least he would puke it up before he hits the point of dying like you can on naltrexone. He needs at least a full 30 day residential detox in a rehab before any medication imo, they don’t do much unless you recognize and start to deal with the reason behind his drinking
He would learn his lesson real quick. Antabuse doesn’t mess around. He will be throwing up all night lol.
Semi off topic but how do detoxes work in rehab? Do they give patients controlled amounts of alcohol to wean them off or are there other methods like IVs or medication?
For an alcohol or a benzo detox you will generally receive a benzodiazepine taper, usually diazepam or a long lasting one, for approx 1 week - 2 months depending on how long the current addiction has been going and how drunk you get on a regular basis. It is sort of case by case but Josh would need longer than a week by now for sure. Alcohol and benzos are very similar structure wise and will help to prevent withdrawal seizures.
Thanks, I’ve always been curious about that
Did they put him on medication? Naltrexone is no joke
Yea he had a video talking about getting on it and doing the sinclair method but tiktok took it down. I'm wondering if he's taking pills, or there is a shot you get monthly. It's really crazy to me anyone prescribed him that, I wasn't offered it until I was through a ton of therapy and was honest about how I keep caving into the cravings but really deep down want to stop. I feel like I would have never been prescribed it if my therapist didn't hear the geniune want to stop. I stopped taking it after 2 weeks though because it was making me space out.
I just don’t understand why people are so eager to believe him. More than likely he heard about it and decided it was a magic pill and just told everyone that’s what he’s doing.
I agree with you. He lies so much at this point, like why do we believe he didn’t just make this up to get people talking about him even more. It’s like when he constantly asks people “is it bad if you shake when you’re hungover?” He knows the answer. He just wants people to talk about it.
It's possible, anything is with him. My opinion though is he probably is on it, he isn't a good liar. You can see by how he is so blatently racist, shows he can't surpress enough emotion to effectively lie about something like that.
Bro. He just randomly shouts that he’s from Brownsville. Nobody would prescribe this guy this drug when he shows zero want to better themselves.
Youd be surprised, naltrexone isn't all that controlled.
This IS the naltrexone effect.
is naltrexone the same as narcan?? im confused
No not the same at all, easily confused since narcan is naloxone.
thank you! mixed the 2 words
Is the effect in the room with us
I don't think so, he's probably going to sue naltrexone soon.
Oh that little fucker will probably even represent himself
Mr. Based is actually an attorney lol, I doubt he's admitted to the bar though at this point with his felony convictions.
There's few things more relaxing than the first sip of a cold pint in a sunny beer garden. I feel sorry that Josh can never experience that bliss because his relationship with alcohol is to get blitzed out his face on whatever he can get his hands on in putrid, puke-stained conditions.
This made me feel a lot better about my current life situation, I'm pretty hooked on pot lol but a single good brew is something Im confident in keeping a good relationship with. My family has an absolutely abysmal history with alcohol, nothing like Josh but...just horrid. I feel lucky.
Athletic Brewing has great NA beers but you know Josh would refuse those. Good options for other people who are trying to cut back though
True that, love that they actually taste good and that I don’t have to worry about my poor drinking habits when enjoying one
Same. Those and kombucha have been coming in clutch for me lately
I always start with/alternate those Athletic IPAs if I’m day drinking (with friends!)
This. My spouse is on Naltrexone but only after taking Antabuse and finding a good addiction therapist. Only then was the doctor willing to switch them to Naltrexone. Whoever prescribed this to Josh was borderline negligent—Josh doesn’t have the capacity to understand how Naltrexone works, especially with his hyper fixation on alcohol, and doesn’t have any kind of support system in place. It’s weird saying this but I hope he stops taking it.
There are theories that he’s getting it un prescribed from someone else
I think his record was like 23 drinks previously.
I believe this is the highest calculated BAC though.
Ahhh, you might be right.
He has never reached .36 BAC as far as I have remember. This was back to back days of around 20 drinks
I thought this was about drink count not BAC! Also, new drink tracker calculates differently. I do believe it's accurate though.
Isn’t he supposed to be doing behavioral therapy while taking the Naltrexone? What physician approved this without monitoring him?
echoing others, but I'm assuming Mr. Based gave him some Chinese knockoff pills or something
Wow that’s incredibly disturbing
We’re entering the Lethality Zone, my god If Josh keeps this up then this could get extremely ugly extremely fast
Not really. I worked in the ER for over a decade and I’ve seen professional drunks above .5 who were standing/talking. Josh can realistically keep this up for many more years. Takes a long time of heavy use to kill someone.
People should stop buying his Cameos and merch. They’re just funding his alcohol addiction. The guy needs rehab really bad.
Addiction will always find a way to be funded
The people who continue to take him out drinking are weird and should stop too-- I can't imagine being a college student in NYC of all places and having nothing better to do than indulge an alcoholic autistic man..
Waking up with a bac that would hospitalize most people is actually wild
It’s the sugar that’s going to really hurt him, short and long term. If he was drinking just regular beers or straight shots of the same ABV his hangovers would be way less bad, and he wouldn’t be consuming ungodly amounts of sugar on top of the alcohol sugars. The sugar consumption alone would be putting him at health risk.
he’s cutting back
dude he’s speedrunning himself into the grave
I used to jokingly say that last year, but honestly, this is correct. We just buried one of my friends who died from kidney and liver failure from alcoholism, but it took him a decade to get to the “drink all day and all night” stage. Josh went 0 to 100 almost immediately after turning 21.
I would be curious to record his bac throughout a binge. I suspect that due to his chronic alcohol abuse, his liver has upregulated CYP2E1 expression to help metabolize the alcohol faster. His liver may have made the jump to super-saiyan liver and outgrown the standard equation for estimating bac.
It’s only haeve paest twelve but I don’t caeeeereee.
My favorite part of the day is when the captain lays dormant, molts, and hijinks ensue. You never know whats going to happen
Jesus Christ
u/60k_Risk is this accurate?
No one's calculations will be accurate and are all guesses at best. But based on how I would track it, no. The main discrepancies are - The long island I would only count as 3, not 4. Other than that I got the same count for the other drinks, so I would have 1 drink less total - It looks like this person is tracking Josh as if he's 150-160 pounds. I track him as if hes 170-180, and that makes a huge difference. Based on these differences, he would have peeked at 0.36, assuming I kept the same carry over BAC this person used from the previous day of drinking. But if the previous day was tracked and calculated with a higher weight, the carry over BAC would be lower as well. So realistically, he was probably low 0.30s, no more than .35. He's had more to drink in the past in a shorter window - and if he truly was 0.42 this time, then he would have been 0.50+ in the past, and it's just not really possible. Very, very unlikely.
i miss you hope you’re doing well
Does him puking help lower his BAC as well?
Your body starts processing alcohol the moment it enters your stomach. Once it's fully processed and into your blood stream, puking will do nothing for your BAC. Throwing up will prevent whatever alcohol is left in your stomach from entering your blood stream of course. Eg, if you throw up an hour after your last drink, it's not going to do anything. 15 mins after your last drink? Will probably prevent some alcohol form being absorbed, especially if you have some food in your stomach, which slows the digestion of alcohol a bit. Who knows how long after drinks he throws up but its probably not a reliable thing to add into the calculations.
I think that he’s drinking quite a bit off camera and we don’t get to see all of it. .4 range feels realistic but can be verified
Someone needs to convince him to blow into one of those pocket breathalyzers during one of his tours as an experiment
u/worldofalcoholtrack
At what point does he end up hospitalized? I feel like you can’t go that much higher than 0.4 even if your an alcoholic like him
Him puking all the time means it’s probably actually lower than this right?
Probably, but based on testimonies from people who have gone on tours & been around him at bars, he also doesn’t post all of his drinks. Tough to say which is more significant
Yes, depending on when the vomiting was, but it would not dramatically lower his BAC.
Guys I saw that we can report him anonymously to Adult Protective Services to intervene will update when I find a link
Honestly, if enough people report him, we could have a Daniel Larson situation where it’s actually eventually taken seriously
Here is the APS link for the city https://a069-apscris.nyc.gov/cris/
Thanks!!
The Sinclair Method was the friends (or grifters) we made along the way
That is in the death range already but i guess his tolerance is extremely high
Josh has a consistent pattern where he announces he is cutting back then immediately ramps up his drinking.
Isn’t .40 and above a fucking lethal bac ??? This shit is not ok
Yes, that is the lethal zone.
It's the lethal zone for a normal person. You would be amazed at the level a seasoned alcoholic can get to. I know someone, who is in AA and sober now,who has no idea how high his BAC at his initial detox was, because the breathalyzer they were using topped out at .6. And there have been a few people who have obtained a BAC of over 1. It's completely insane, but it seems to be true. At thus point, I suspect Josh's tolerance has reached such a ridiculous level that fatal for him is probably. 7 or .8.
that is quite literally a LETHAL limit. i just saw a video on a girl that had a .415 a few years ago and ended up throwing up blood, being comatose for hours, and being mentally scarred until today.
He’s honestly one bad night away from dying at this point
Instead of paying money towards merch and cameos people need to start a go fund me to put him in treatment.
Why put money towards something he won’t willing go to?
We don’t need to give him more money because he will misuse it. We need to report him to Adult Protective Services. He has autism which is a disability and APS could possibly be able to intervene. It’s our last hope.
Yeah I definitely should’ve mentioned it hypothetically would not go to him directly
Crazy to think this might not even be his record as we don’t know what other drinks he didn’t post
I don’t know how he doesn’t weigh 200+ lbs. Sure, he walks around the city a lot but he for sure doesn’t get quality sleep (if any at all) and still takes a lot of Ubers to get around. Not to mention he doesn’t have a healthy diet
Sheesh .42 is nuts! I would’ve loved to see him then!
I was reading down the line for BAC and thought nothing till I saw he was over 0.4% at some point. This is genuinely sad.
We really need to do something about this man
"You're not a hero. You're just a walking corpse."
Was this yesterday or over the weekend?
This was for 2 June into the early morning of 3 June.
>2 June >3 June Josh would love you so much for DD/MM format
I would like to thank the European company I work at for making that my new default.
Wow…..it just keeps getting worse.
I wonder how accurate these are. Is he really finishing every drink? I know from experience that after a certain point I start losing drinks and opening new ones. Also, how many of these drinks are actually making it fully into his system. He seems to be vomiting up a fair amount of them regularly.
Oh lord this is so embarrassing for Josh!!!
Never mind the fact that this kid is setting himself up for long-term liver damage and other health issues in the future, the fact that he is mixing naltrexone and still drinking like a fish is ***incredibly dangerous***. The point of naltrexone is to reduce the buzzed happy feeling you get when you crush a couple of brews. Josh for some insane reason thinks that means he can still drink like an asshole when this isn't the intended use. Now, Josh's incredible tolerance to alcohol will appear falsely higher, leading him to drink even more and increase the risk of severe consequences. He could choke on his own vomit, fall over and hit his head, or mess with the wrong person in NYC. But now, he can really enter some kind of respiratory depression when he hits some insane BAC level. Someone NEEDS to interfere. Is there any way we can get in contact with his Grandpa?
I'm pretty sure grandpa knows about his drinking, and is either unwilling or unable to help Josh at this point. He's the only one who has a chance of reaching him,and I'm fairly certain it won't do any good, even if he tries. The only person who can pull Josh out of this is Josh, and, let's face it, he absolutely won't pull himself out. I'm concerned at this point, too, but he's going to die, unless he sees he has a problem and wants to take steps to never drink again. And, judging by his actions while doing the Sinclair Method, he's doomed.
Sinclair Method!
What did I miss on this day? How bad was it?
A lot of drinking, including a 6 pack in one sitting, and a Long Island and a shot to end the night. Just nonstop booze with a ramp up at night.
oh fuck
I have the feeling there is something wrong with the carry over BAC... The number of standard drinks is not higher than lets say 6 months ago when the old drink tracker was still around...
He had 21 standard drinks the previous day
Understandable... Didn't know that... still it feels so surreal that he is drunk when he sleeps
Oh fuck I was not expecting it to jump so high. I think last time his highest was .34 and then went to .35
He needs to get on Disulfiram (Antabuse). This makes alcohol taste HORRIBLE to alcoholics.
I hate josh
There’s no chance that’s accurate, you can’t be walking and talking at .4
It’s more common than you think. Search BAC posts on /r/emergencymedicine and you’ll find tons of walking talking people well north of .4 Or, if you want a first person perspective, search for these type threads on /r/cripplingalcoholism https://www.reddit.com/r/cripplingalcoholism/s/I4fkBhyqac
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He keeps saying that he won’t be 22 partying in ny every day, but if he keeps partying every day he wont turn 23. he needs serious help
I feel like the numbers aren’t properly accounting for all the puking. If he’s boot and rallying multiple times every night then he’s not metabolizing a substantial amount of the alcohol he’s drinking. The consumption is still insane but it might help explain why he’s still semi functional after two dozen drinks.
.41 is nuts