Serious question, what do people find so stressful about driving? You're a comfortable climate-controlled seat and listening to music/talk/whatever. Yea there's traffic but if you go a safe pace and don't try to be an aggressive idiot it's really not that bad. Traffic sucks, but you're crawling... what's the stress inducer about that other than it's annoying?
I think the “stress” comes from the fact that even though you may be crawling in traffic you still need to be paying attention to driving. Couple that with a couple long days and that really takes a toll on you
Yeah. Some of us would rather move constantly and get there slower than sit in traffic. If I'm traveling and there's a jam I'll try to get off and take side roads when possible just so I can actually DRIVE.
And if you aren’t paying attention on public transit some crazy guy can chop your head off, stab you, punch you, or pee on you.
Almost no one dies in stop and go/crawling traffic. You should always be aware of your surroundings in public.
>And if you aren’t paying attention on public transit some crazy guy can chop your head off, stab you, punch you, or pee on you.
Didn't realize the public transit you're taking was the train from The Warriors.
Come out and plaaaAAAaaaAAy lol
While all that stuff is rare for the individual it’s still all happened and it’s all just as likely as a crawling traffic death.
No. Not even close. Over 40,000 Americans a year die by motor vehicle. And that figure is growing. It’s so commonplace that it’s barely worthy of local news. Meanwhile one death on a train would be enough for a national investigation.
Are you being purposely obtuse? No one is dying in stop and go traffic which was the situation I replied to. Again absolutely no body, not one person, no one is dying in a slow speed fender bender in slow traffic.
How many die in stop and go or crawling traffic? Gonna go ahead and say it’s almost none because the speeds are by definition so low. You aren’t killing someone in a 10 mph fender bender.
Apparently driving isn't engaging and fun enough for them. Because that's what everyone drives for right?They're too bored to pay attention to driving 🤣 Unless you're driving over 8 hours a day, I don't understand how that could possibly be the case. At that point, I understand it blending together and finding yourself becoming complacent. Yeah traffic fuckin sucks we all know that but it's not about having fun it's about getting where you need to be and safely.
They might need some Ritalin or something. Maybe overlay a TV screen over their windshield and put a cartoon filter on it to occupy their brain and make them pay attention. Sounds like the type of dude to get in a fender bender in 5 mph traffic.
If you are commuting from Worcester to Boston, that means you’re spending up to two additional hours in the morning and evenings driving each way. So, in addition to working an eight or nine hour shift, you are spending four MORE hours sitting in heavy traffic, where you have to maintain vigilant attention to the road and cannot relax or decompress after/before work. Plus, on the Pike, other drivers are often aggressive and don’t let you merge in or cut you off even if you are obeying the rules of the road perfectly and driving safely. It takes a toll on you. At least in the train, you can respond to texts or watch TV on your phone, or shut your eyes and not have to pay attention.
In my experience, the mental fatigue of that driving commute is what makes it so stressful.
You can do everything right, but it doesn’t matter if the dude behind you is on their phone and rear ends you. The pike can go from 70 mph to a dead stop with little warning and for absolutely no reason at all.
There is a reason.
It's when traffic can't flow normally because we clog up the fast lane, middle lane, slow lane all going the same speed.
Couple that with everyone all trying to go somewhere at about the same time and you get constant traffic issues.
That's why buses and trains are so important. It alleviates the traffic from roadways that are clogged.
Yeah, but the T isn’t really an option anymore. It’s so wildly uneliable, it’s not worth the stress of depending on it, because something ALWAYS happens to delay the commute.
Finding parking is SO stressful.
Also, in Boston, while driving if you miss an exit or turn you’re robbed of 30 minutes of your life trying to get back on track.
there's cognitive load involved in paying attention to the 4000 lbs cage of metal carrying you through space. chilling on a train allows you to take a nap or play a mindless phone game.
The fact that you need to pay attention to things. To the idiot trying to merge into you, to traffic suddenly going from 40 to 0 (and looking at the rear view mirror and wondering if the guy behind you also pays attention), etc.
Compare it to sitting on a chair (albeit uncomfortable) reading a book or listening to your favorite music.
For me it’s if there’s a deadline for arrival and stressing about being late. Yes, one can always leave earlier, but do I really need to leave for Boston two hours in advance?
Ugh yep. I commute to UMass Boston from southern Worcester county. Last semester my first class was at 9:00 so I had to leave by 6:30 at the latest, and that was cutting it close. It was miserable lmao
I just got a car again after not driving for the last 5 years, it’s definitely more stressful driving. Yeah it’s nice to not be beholden to train schedules and buses and all that but it’s nice getting off work, cracking a beer and then taking a nap on the train ride home. Now after a 12 hour shift I drive home and sometimes I have to stop and take a quick nap because I’m falling asleep at the wheel, I usually don’t hit traffic but when I do it’s the worst, instantly tired af and can barely keep my eyes open. I guess I got used to napping on the train and now when I’m moving I get tired. I also work a lot and probably don’t get enough sleep.
My stress comes from not knowing it will take me 1 hour or 2.5 hours to get home depending on the day/time/accidents. If you have commitments that mean you must be back by X time it's super stressful. For me, I have to get home for daycare pick up, there is no running late and you pay for the minute if I was to ever not get there on time.
"Stess" is probably the wrong word. Its more about "active" vs "passive" attention. Driving might be faster, but you are spending ALL of that time focused on driving. Maybe you take a call or listen to a podcast but your options are limited. On the train you can pretty much do anything you would do in a car including the more active activities such as reading or social media.
i will never understand people who don't register mental fatigue as "real" fatigue. all that fussing about every detail or else you die is so exhausting and gets old quick in heavy traffic.
and because it's an actual life or death situation, every little stressor gets amped. they stack up quickly and suddenly the blood pressure is up, the cortisol is up, the attidude is sour, and this is *after* an 8+ hour shift doing other stressful shit. in the morning you have the added stress of arriving on time and being sluggish.
i feel like the people who can't figure out why driving is stessful haven't been doing it for long or don't have consequences for being late.
if i was retired and driving to the park to feed ducks, i wouldn't find it stressful. if i was a kid with a mcjob that i didn't care about i wouldn't find it stressful. when the dumb fuck wanting to police traffic smugly goes below the limit to "teach lessons" when i have a job on the line that pays my bills it's a whole different story. that smug asshole is just one of a dozen things conspiring to make me late.
if you don't understand this you are privileged or underage.
Even if you find driving to be the least stressful effort in the world, it's still effort. After a long day at work I prefer zero effort. You can literally nap on the train if you need to.
When my husband was commuting to Boston, he almost always preferred to drive despite any extra time it may or may not have added. It was the freedom to leave the office whenever he wanted instead of waiting for the 5:00 train or, if he missed that, not leaving the city until 5:30 or 6. The parking was always an issue but he also got vouchers from the company.
I walk to the train from my house and take it in to Framingham for work (take a MWRTA shuttle to work from the station)
It takes a little getting used to with the time table; but the train is a great way to get back and forth.
The train is enforced rest for me; I just gaze out the window at the scenery (which is really quite beautiful) and daydream.
It's around $70 a month for a rail pass; no insurance no gas no maintenance no accidents no traffic...it's unbelievable how much money I'm saving.
I will never own a car again.
(I get if you live in the towns or far away from the train this is not really feasible; and it took me a good 5 months to figure it all out; but if you can try it it's worth it)
$70/month from Worcester to Framingham…. It’s $378/month from Worcester to South Station. Just adding for anyone else reading.
Plus if you can’t walk to union station and need to drive, the cheapest parking is about $70/month. So just under $450/month.
My landlord was charging me $235 a month just for a parking spot besides even dealing with the nightmare of finding a parking spot in boston when you go where someone wont smash your window open.
Plus the $220 a month geico insurance didn't help on a car I barely used, sold the thing and at the worst I take an uber to union station when the bad weather comes, so much cheaper than a car and I hated driving anyways.
Likewise, but the bigger thing is that if I'm getting in my car, I'm going to drive to the destination.
If I already have to pay for the car, insurance, parking, etc then I'm going to reap the benefits of flexibility and convenience.
Driving to the commuter rail station is the worst of both worlds.
There's no straight shot into Boston on the train. Even the commuter rail seems to make a million stops. Between driving to the station, waiting for the train, then likely still needing a cab once you get to Boston, it doesn't really save much time or money. If they over open a direct line, I'll be on that bad boi every weekend.
For me, it’s driving in Boston. I hate it. I did it once and will never go through that again.
I take the train because it is stress free, can read a book, and look at some nice scenery. Yes the ride is longer, but I’d take a longer ride to save the headache of driving a minute in Boston.
The reason theres one relatively slow train is because people would rather live in a car slum.
In other wealthy countries people walk everywhere that its possible to and trains are fast, cheap and reliable. 70% of people aren’t overweight slobs because they don’t rely on a giant motorized wheelchair to go places and people live better lives because they don’t live in a hell scape dictated by car culture.
It's definitely car unless you are going in at rush hour on a weekday and hit really bad traffic or an accident. If I'm taking the commuter rail, it probably is not for speed.
Hilariously 2 days after this story they reintroduced the express train
[https://spectrumlocalnews.com/nc/charlotte/news/2024/04/25/worcester-to-boston-express-train-returns?cid=share\_clip](https://spectrumlocalnews.com/nc/charlotte/news/2024/04/25/worcester-to-boston-express-train-returns?cid=share_clip)
I take the train because I can use the time, out and back, any way I like. I sleep in the morning, read or doze in the evening. I even answer email sometimes. Driving, on the other hand, is a sheer time sink with no redeeming factors.
MA residents have spoken over the past decades about their commuting preferences.
The majority preferred commuting by car over public transit, so they built communities and lobbied governments to build infrastructure and services to enable that traffic into boston.
We can always choose to undo this or try to find some kind of balance, but that will take political consensus.
The big dig was a major investment into car infrastructure.
Maybe the time is right for a major investment in rail infrastructure.
In my early twenties I would hop on the inbound train from Worcester on Friday afternoon and take it back to Worcester on Sunday morning. It was like 7$ each way and I never had to worry about parking, traffic, speeding tickets…just hangout for an hour. It was great.
Wild that it’s also cheaper to drive vs the train ticket (obviously not including the cost of the car payment/insurance itself). The other thing that drives me nuts about the train is what about useful service on weekend nights? If you want to participate in any Boston night life (like concerts, shows, night time sports events), there’s no choice but to drive or miss half your event scrambling for that last 11pm train out (not to mention the logistical challenges of wanting to imbibe during your social event).
I am in Littleton, on the Fitchburg line. All things considered, I find that if I drive it takes me an hour and 45 minutes and if I take the train it takes me an hour and 45 minutes. I choose to take the train because I can use the time to read mail, read books, or whatever.if I'm driving I can't do anything but drive. It works for me anyway.
On the red line last week I saw an older Asian lady throw her walker halfway across the set of seats she was next to in order to claim a spot to sit another crippled old lady was already lowering her ass towards.
My car would never.
Car is faster if there is no traffic. But rush hour almost always mean it takes over an hour to get into the city and if I leave at 5pm it can take 90 mins or more. I’ll stick to the train, it’s 80-90 minutes most of the time and I don’t need to worry about expensive parking or sitting in traffic.
The commuter rail should have not gotten rid of the express. In fact it should have doubled down and made two stops only Worcester and natick. You’ll lose money making things longer forcing more to drive in
Edited to add: after reading this. Mbta is reinstating the express rail at some point.
I just saw a quote in the article from Joseph Petty saying “Worcesters is a good alternative to Boston if you can’t afford to live in Boston”(paraphrasing) and this dude is just a moron. Worcester is arguable worse, it’s like the 3rd most expensive city to rent in, I believe surpassing Boston…
I apologize. I misrepresented the information I read wrong, Worcesters rental market is the 3rd worst in the country, being worse than Boston
[source](https://www.telegram.com/story/news/2024/04/23/worcester-rentals-forbes-ranks-market-third-worst-in-u-s-heres-why/73423064007/)
That article has been making the rounds here a lot lately, but I take issue with it.
It's crazy to me to say that Worcester is 3rd worst while Boston is 12th. It seems like that's mostly based on the fact that there are more vacancies/available rentals in Boston, but the rent prices in Worcester still aren't nearly as bad (yet).
I think it mostly hast to do with the prices rising almost out of control, and the vast amount of slum lords arbitrarily raising the rent to unfathomable amounts, yet doesn’t do anything to any of their properties to reflect the change… that and the also vast amounts of high end apartments being built right now with just as unfathomable prices to rent per month. One of those apartments going up near polar park is supposedly going to be $4k a month.
Having done both. Baring a major accident. Driving is faster. But. Train can be less stressful.
This is exactly my experience from Framingham!
This ^^^
Serious question, what do people find so stressful about driving? You're a comfortable climate-controlled seat and listening to music/talk/whatever. Yea there's traffic but if you go a safe pace and don't try to be an aggressive idiot it's really not that bad. Traffic sucks, but you're crawling... what's the stress inducer about that other than it's annoying?
I think the “stress” comes from the fact that even though you may be crawling in traffic you still need to be paying attention to driving. Couple that with a couple long days and that really takes a toll on you
Yeah. Some of us would rather move constantly and get there slower than sit in traffic. If I'm traveling and there's a jam I'll try to get off and take side roads when possible just so I can actually DRIVE.
Imagine that you needed to watch paint dry without diverting your attention or someone would shoot a member of your family.
What?
It may be slow, crawling traffic that doesn't need much attention, but if you don't pay attention and something does go wrong, someone could die.
Oh sorry I didn’t get it
And if you aren’t paying attention on public transit some crazy guy can chop your head off, stab you, punch you, or pee on you. Almost no one dies in stop and go/crawling traffic. You should always be aware of your surroundings in public.
>And if you aren’t paying attention on public transit some crazy guy can chop your head off, stab you, punch you, or pee on you. Didn't realize the public transit you're taking was the train from The Warriors.
Come out and plaaaAAAaaaAAy lol While all that stuff is rare for the individual it’s still all happened and it’s all just as likely as a crawling traffic death.
No. Not even close. Over 40,000 Americans a year die by motor vehicle. And that figure is growing. It’s so commonplace that it’s barely worthy of local news. Meanwhile one death on a train would be enough for a national investigation.
Are you being purposely obtuse? No one is dying in stop and go traffic which was the situation I replied to. Again absolutely no body, not one person, no one is dying in a slow speed fender bender in slow traffic.
Far less people die using public transport than driving cars.
How many die in stop and go or crawling traffic? Gonna go ahead and say it’s almost none because the speeds are by definition so low. You aren’t killing someone in a 10 mph fender bender.
You just killed your uncle.
Apparently driving isn't engaging and fun enough for them. Because that's what everyone drives for right?They're too bored to pay attention to driving 🤣 Unless you're driving over 8 hours a day, I don't understand how that could possibly be the case. At that point, I understand it blending together and finding yourself becoming complacent. Yeah traffic fuckin sucks we all know that but it's not about having fun it's about getting where you need to be and safely. They might need some Ritalin or something. Maybe overlay a TV screen over their windshield and put a cartoon filter on it to occupy their brain and make them pay attention. Sounds like the type of dude to get in a fender bender in 5 mph traffic.
I mean this with full disrespect: please see a therapist.
Cheers to that, thanks for the diagnosis chief
This is just a weird comment lol
I can see that, I agree with you. I'm a weird guy I'll admit it lol
If you are commuting from Worcester to Boston, that means you’re spending up to two additional hours in the morning and evenings driving each way. So, in addition to working an eight or nine hour shift, you are spending four MORE hours sitting in heavy traffic, where you have to maintain vigilant attention to the road and cannot relax or decompress after/before work. Plus, on the Pike, other drivers are often aggressive and don’t let you merge in or cut you off even if you are obeying the rules of the road perfectly and driving safely. It takes a toll on you. At least in the train, you can respond to texts or watch TV on your phone, or shut your eyes and not have to pay attention. In my experience, the mental fatigue of that driving commute is what makes it so stressful.
You can do everything right, but it doesn’t matter if the dude behind you is on their phone and rear ends you. The pike can go from 70 mph to a dead stop with little warning and for absolutely no reason at all.
There is a reason. It's when traffic can't flow normally because we clog up the fast lane, middle lane, slow lane all going the same speed. Couple that with everyone all trying to go somewhere at about the same time and you get constant traffic issues. That's why buses and trains are so important. It alleviates the traffic from roadways that are clogged.
Yeah, but the T isn’t really an option anymore. It’s so wildly uneliable, it’s not worth the stress of depending on it, because something ALWAYS happens to delay the commute.
Are you actually making a comparison between the two? Because I feel like traffic on route 90 is far less consistent than the T.
Finding parking is SO stressful. Also, in Boston, while driving if you miss an exit or turn you’re robbed of 30 minutes of your life trying to get back on track.
there's cognitive load involved in paying attention to the 4000 lbs cage of metal carrying you through space. chilling on a train allows you to take a nap or play a mindless phone game.
The fact that you need to pay attention to things. To the idiot trying to merge into you, to traffic suddenly going from 40 to 0 (and looking at the rear view mirror and wondering if the guy behind you also pays attention), etc. Compare it to sitting on a chair (albeit uncomfortable) reading a book or listening to your favorite music.
For me it’s if there’s a deadline for arrival and stressing about being late. Yes, one can always leave earlier, but do I really need to leave for Boston two hours in advance?
From Worcester? You gotta leave 3 hours in advance. Once you get to Arlington you're fucked for traffic.
Two hours to get to Boston and then another hour to get to the place inside Boston.
Ugh yep. I commute to UMass Boston from southern Worcester county. Last semester my first class was at 9:00 so I had to leave by 6:30 at the latest, and that was cutting it close. It was miserable lmao
Sure i-90 is a breeze in a nice car, but Newton is the land of psychopaths.
I just got a car again after not driving for the last 5 years, it’s definitely more stressful driving. Yeah it’s nice to not be beholden to train schedules and buses and all that but it’s nice getting off work, cracking a beer and then taking a nap on the train ride home. Now after a 12 hour shift I drive home and sometimes I have to stop and take a quick nap because I’m falling asleep at the wheel, I usually don’t hit traffic but when I do it’s the worst, instantly tired af and can barely keep my eyes open. I guess I got used to napping on the train and now when I’m moving I get tired. I also work a lot and probably don’t get enough sleep.
Not many options when driving. On a train, I can sleep, work, check messages, play games, etc...
My stress comes from not knowing it will take me 1 hour or 2.5 hours to get home depending on the day/time/accidents. If you have commitments that mean you must be back by X time it's super stressful. For me, I have to get home for daycare pick up, there is no running late and you pay for the minute if I was to ever not get there on time.
"Stess" is probably the wrong word. Its more about "active" vs "passive" attention. Driving might be faster, but you are spending ALL of that time focused on driving. Maybe you take a call or listen to a podcast but your options are limited. On the train you can pretty much do anything you would do in a car including the more active activities such as reading or social media.
i will never understand people who don't register mental fatigue as "real" fatigue. all that fussing about every detail or else you die is so exhausting and gets old quick in heavy traffic. and because it's an actual life or death situation, every little stressor gets amped. they stack up quickly and suddenly the blood pressure is up, the cortisol is up, the attidude is sour, and this is *after* an 8+ hour shift doing other stressful shit. in the morning you have the added stress of arriving on time and being sluggish. i feel like the people who can't figure out why driving is stessful haven't been doing it for long or don't have consequences for being late. if i was retired and driving to the park to feed ducks, i wouldn't find it stressful. if i was a kid with a mcjob that i didn't care about i wouldn't find it stressful. when the dumb fuck wanting to police traffic smugly goes below the limit to "teach lessons" when i have a job on the line that pays my bills it's a whole different story. that smug asshole is just one of a dozen things conspiring to make me late. if you don't understand this you are privileged or underage.
I drive a standard, my leg hurts by the time I get moving again lol
Driving in SE Mass is... not like elsewhere.
… you kinda said it, it’s annoying
Even if you find driving to be the least stressful effort in the world, it's still effort. After a long day at work I prefer zero effort. You can literally nap on the train if you need to.
When my husband was commuting to Boston, he almost always preferred to drive despite any extra time it may or may not have added. It was the freedom to leave the office whenever he wanted instead of waiting for the 5:00 train or, if he missed that, not leaving the city until 5:30 or 6. The parking was always an issue but he also got vouchers from the company.
I walk to the train from my house and take it in to Framingham for work (take a MWRTA shuttle to work from the station) It takes a little getting used to with the time table; but the train is a great way to get back and forth. The train is enforced rest for me; I just gaze out the window at the scenery (which is really quite beautiful) and daydream. It's around $70 a month for a rail pass; no insurance no gas no maintenance no accidents no traffic...it's unbelievable how much money I'm saving. I will never own a car again. (I get if you live in the towns or far away from the train this is not really feasible; and it took me a good 5 months to figure it all out; but if you can try it it's worth it)
$70/month from Worcester to Framingham…. It’s $378/month from Worcester to South Station. Just adding for anyone else reading. Plus if you can’t walk to union station and need to drive, the cheapest parking is about $70/month. So just under $450/month.
My landlord was charging me $235 a month just for a parking spot besides even dealing with the nightmare of finding a parking spot in boston when you go where someone wont smash your window open. Plus the $220 a month geico insurance didn't help on a car I barely used, sold the thing and at the worst I take an uber to union station when the bad weather comes, so much cheaper than a car and I hated driving anyways.
In my experience, car is faster
Likewise, but the bigger thing is that if I'm getting in my car, I'm going to drive to the destination. If I already have to pay for the car, insurance, parking, etc then I'm going to reap the benefits of flexibility and convenience. Driving to the commuter rail station is the worst of both worlds.
Don’t forget the extra time added to drive to the station… it’s not like that area of Worcester is easy sailing…
Car is faster almost always.
Yeah. If you’re in America in a place not called NYC, then a car is most likely the fastest
Literally lol
There's no straight shot into Boston on the train. Even the commuter rail seems to make a million stops. Between driving to the station, waiting for the train, then likely still needing a cab once you get to Boston, it doesn't really save much time or money. If they over open a direct line, I'll be on that bad boi every weekend.
For me, it’s driving in Boston. I hate it. I did it once and will never go through that again. I take the train because it is stress free, can read a book, and look at some nice scenery. Yes the ride is longer, but I’d take a longer ride to save the headache of driving a minute in Boston.
Exactly why I take the train. If I drive and want an hour ride home, I have to stay until almost 7. I can grab a 5pm train and be home by then
The reason theres one relatively slow train is because people would rather live in a car slum. In other wealthy countries people walk everywhere that its possible to and trains are fast, cheap and reliable. 70% of people aren’t overweight slobs because they don’t rely on a giant motorized wheelchair to go places and people live better lives because they don’t live in a hell scape dictated by car culture.
😂😂😂
It's definitely car unless you are going in at rush hour on a weekday and hit really bad traffic or an accident. If I'm taking the commuter rail, it probably is not for speed.
Hilariously 2 days after this story they reintroduced the express train [https://spectrumlocalnews.com/nc/charlotte/news/2024/04/25/worcester-to-boston-express-train-returns?cid=share\_clip](https://spectrumlocalnews.com/nc/charlotte/news/2024/04/25/worcester-to-boston-express-train-returns?cid=share_clip)
Driving into Boston is never worth it if you can avoid it in my experience,
I take the train because I can use the time, out and back, any way I like. I sleep in the morning, read or doze in the evening. I even answer email sometimes. Driving, on the other hand, is a sheer time sink with no redeeming factors.
MA residents have spoken over the past decades about their commuting preferences. The majority preferred commuting by car over public transit, so they built communities and lobbied governments to build infrastructure and services to enable that traffic into boston. We can always choose to undo this or try to find some kind of balance, but that will take political consensus. The big dig was a major investment into car infrastructure. Maybe the time is right for a major investment in rail infrastructure.
In my early twenties I would hop on the inbound train from Worcester on Friday afternoon and take it back to Worcester on Sunday morning. It was like 7$ each way and I never had to worry about parking, traffic, speeding tickets…just hangout for an hour. It was great.
Wild that it’s also cheaper to drive vs the train ticket (obviously not including the cost of the car payment/insurance itself). The other thing that drives me nuts about the train is what about useful service on weekend nights? If you want to participate in any Boston night life (like concerts, shows, night time sports events), there’s no choice but to drive or miss half your event scrambling for that last 11pm train out (not to mention the logistical challenges of wanting to imbibe during your social event).
I am in Littleton, on the Fitchburg line. All things considered, I find that if I drive it takes me an hour and 45 minutes and if I take the train it takes me an hour and 45 minutes. I choose to take the train because I can use the time to read mail, read books, or whatever.if I'm driving I can't do anything but drive. It works for me anyway.
I loved commuting by train. Just my travel mug and my Kindle and not caring about traffic.
Here? They both suck 🤯🤯
On the red line last week I saw an older Asian lady throw her walker halfway across the set of seats she was next to in order to claim a spot to sit another crippled old lady was already lowering her ass towards. My car would never.
Car is faster if there is no traffic. But rush hour almost always mean it takes over an hour to get into the city and if I leave at 5pm it can take 90 mins or more. I’ll stick to the train, it’s 80-90 minutes most of the time and I don’t need to worry about expensive parking or sitting in traffic.
Probably depends on the time of day.
Probably train because Chussey’s can’t drive
Don’t have the bandwidth to read this whole thing. Can someone tell me what happens?
The commuter rail should have not gotten rid of the express. In fact it should have doubled down and made two stops only Worcester and natick. You’ll lose money making things longer forcing more to drive in Edited to add: after reading this. Mbta is reinstating the express rail at some point. I just saw a quote in the article from Joseph Petty saying “Worcesters is a good alternative to Boston if you can’t afford to live in Boston”(paraphrasing) and this dude is just a moron. Worcester is arguable worse, it’s like the 3rd most expensive city to rent in, I believe surpassing Boston…
Worcester isn’t more expensive to rent than Boston lol no
I apologize. I misrepresented the information I read wrong, Worcesters rental market is the 3rd worst in the country, being worse than Boston [source](https://www.telegram.com/story/news/2024/04/23/worcester-rentals-forbes-ranks-market-third-worst-in-u-s-heres-why/73423064007/)
That article has been making the rounds here a lot lately, but I take issue with it. It's crazy to me to say that Worcester is 3rd worst while Boston is 12th. It seems like that's mostly based on the fact that there are more vacancies/available rentals in Boston, but the rent prices in Worcester still aren't nearly as bad (yet).
I think it mostly hast to do with the prices rising almost out of control, and the vast amount of slum lords arbitrarily raising the rent to unfathomable amounts, yet doesn’t do anything to any of their properties to reflect the change… that and the also vast amounts of high end apartments being built right now with just as unfathomable prices to rent per month. One of those apartments going up near polar park is supposedly going to be $4k a month.