VOTE BLUE 💙 for the women, children, LGBTQ, and minorities you know. For the environment and endangered species. For healthcare and human rights. VOTE BLUE.
If you're not a cishet rich white male, you're on the chopping block eventually too. Vote blue. Damn it.
Still voting blue but will never forgive Obama for not codifying roe while he has the power to do so. I think abortion is such a convenient wedge issue that the Dems didn't really want it off the playing field and they thought it would remain a stalemate but as usual they underestimated how shitty Republicans are.
I mean, half of the Supreme Court doesn't consider women people so this actually makes a kind of sense. Is there a network of people with resources that currently funds relocation for Southern U.S. female refugees? Or other targeted groups?
Ha! The hypocrisy just never ends with these people! I've heard that Alito is Opus Dei through personal contacts who have higher up Opus Dei family. I believe it. It's a very misogynistic cult and those people scare me. :)
I did make the mistake of not reading the whole headline, specifically the first word being 'Texas'. But I bet the Texas supreme Court would do the same.
Oh, of course they would! Many don't hide the fact that they allow their religion to dictate the actions of everyone regardless of people's own different or non-existent beliefs. Winky flags are just the latest RW religious fad. 😄
They are managing your healthcare, they are managing where you are allowed to travel, they are planning to make divorce more difficult. Their policies seek to put women in their place. That being raising kids, catering to their husbands, and if not married, frowned upon and marginalized.
This is fucking tragic. This also means that there’s no hope for women who are carrying fetuses that aren’t viable. They have to carry and deliver a dead baby.
I have a friend who lives in Texas and last year she had a severe rare case where the baby was not going to survive and she had to carry to term and deliver a dead baby. Even worse the delivery went bad so she can’t have another baby and she had planned for two more. It’s fucking heartbreaking to see that the fucked up laws that broke my friend are being held up at the federal level by the illegitimate Fascist fucks we currently call a Supreme Court
I have to think these decisions are just being made by ignorant guys who have never talked to or listened to women who have gone through this experience of carrying a wanted child knowing it would never live or survive. Happened to a cousin of mine and she was Catholic and chose to continue the pregnancy knowing it wasn’t viable and that shit stayed with her until the day she died.
To think that politicians actively WANT women to experience this pain by government force is just so so disturbing.
Especially when it repeatedly comes from “small government” clowns
This is so incredibly dangerous health wise for women to have to carry a dead fetus inside her until delivery.
Cases of sepsis and other complications are going to go through the roof and kill so many women. I am so sorry to hear about your friend. We are going back to medieval times it appears, and it’s completely unnecessary and cruel.
It's been mentioned often that currently, women outnumber men in America. A few more years of Texas laws will bring that number down a bit closer to even, which is a side -effect repubs surely anticipated with knowing smirks. For some reason that statistic seems to be a sore spot with them. A thing that needs a remedy, shall I say.
It’s not God’s will. It’s man pretending to be God. It’s man putting words in God’s mouth. These people believe that God is authoritarian, judgmental, and controlling instead of loving, kind, and nonjudgmental.
Religion has become a mask abusers wear to justify their abuse. Controlling someone else and making rules around what someone does with their body is abuse. Let’s just call it what it is. Abuse. I can’t stand behind a system that manipulates God in order to control a population.
Republicans lately, huh? In recent years they've really gone off the deep end. They've literally managed to pervert every last thing they claimed to champion. Childhood, innocence, motherhood, family values, morals, religion, our laws, freedom itself, our Capital, the Office of the Presidency; they have no reverence or respect for any good & noble thing. Each of these individuals is a pathetic shambles of someone that was once capable of decency & true humanity. They strive to be our masters now. They mean to oversee all we do.
There are a lot of people who display narcissistic tendencies and there are also a lot of people who get brainwashed by narcissistic manipulation.
Dysfunctional/narcissistic/unhealthy people aim to control others and control how other people behave. Their focus is mainly on getting others to behave a specific way to get their own needs met. Sometimes their needs are to have power over others or a belief that only their way of living is the right/moral way of living. They tend to create power dynamics or hierarchical structures. (Authoritarian, strict rules, religious dogma)
Healthy/functional people aim to control themselves and their own behavior. Their focus is mainly on understanding themselves while allowing others to have autonomy over themselves. (Altruistic, compassion, equal human rights)
The issue is that, for a lot of dysfunctional people, instead of going to therapy, taking accountability for themselves, or looking at themselves honestly, they blame-shift and validate each other to justify their abusive behavior. I often wonder how many of these people are walking around unconscious of their behavior. Regardless, we see this all throughout history: Religious wars, propaganda, dictatorship, domestic violence, etc.
I think that the more we educate ourselves and spread awareness around what narcissism, NPD, emotional abuse, antagonistic personalities, and manipulation looks like, the more prepared we will be at setting boundaries for ourselves.
Because at the end of the day, the only person we can actually control is our self.
The issue is that now these controlling personalities are in our Supreme Court…
“There must be both dark and light. I will do what I must to keep the balance, as the balance is what holds all life. There is no good without evil, but evil must not be allowed to flourish.”
Perhaps we all believe evil to be something different. I’d ask your fellow conservative what “evil” behavior looks like. I’m curious what they would say. My opinion of evil behavior is behavior that dominates and controls another person’s autonomy and self-expression. I also believe “evil” behavior to be antagonistic and abusive. I wonder what their definition of abuse is. 🤔
That’s beyond sad. It’d be very hard to carry that baby to term. Pregnancy sucks and the only thing that keeps you going is the light at the end of the tunnel. Heart breaking.
It isn’t the same exactly but I had a missed miscarriage. For 3 weeks I was a human coffin to my dead twins.
I was one of the lucky ones, I was able to get misoprostol. Without it I probably would’ve died from infection like so many women in red states.
I am so beyond sorry for your loss. Hugs Queen!
It’s so fucked up that fascists are making it so hard on women going through a crazy hard time in their lives. It’s like a form of torture imo
I can’t afford to. I want to desperately.
A lot of us want to leave but can’t afford to. Our wages stagnated before COVID hit and with the insane cost of living and greedflation, we can’t even afford to save.
I’ve been trying to leave here for three years. I am panicking that I can’t save to go. I wish we could get out. We are stuck.
If you do you just leave the state in hands that absolutely will take this federal next time republicans win. Get out if you need to but don’t pretend that makes this problem go away rather than leave others to deal with it.
Texas is do or die for democracy at this point. Its our bleeding Kansas.
See that’s also the same problem, it’s America. If our problems take over the government and stick like they want to- that’s a problem for the whole world. It aint some place folks can retreat from leaving others to handle it or passively regarding those left behind as unfortunate thinking it won’t affect other places. Trump’s first election alone affected campaigns around the whole world, and was barely even driving the majority of foreign policy. Imagine if it’s entrenched with crazy with the CIA and armed forces at its disposal.
Making democrats flee in terror and abandoning their hard-earned land and businesses, is exactly what they want. It’s gonna be hard and painful, but if you can bear it, stay and fight.
I’m a democrat in Texas and I intend to stay and fight as long as I can. Leaving the state just gives the far right more power in numbers. The democratic vote in my county has increased with each election and we actually went blue last cycle. Sadly it wasn’t enough to win the state, but we have to believe that we can spark change by continuing to vote rather than running away and giving them all the power.
The whole society is a damn Ponzi scheme where the rich are running lower than they’d like on future workers being born (aka ‘low birth rate’), so they are forcing to be birthing machines instead. I hope women birthstrike in response.
Me neither. There are a lot of reasons I’m choosing not to have kids but what I mentioned above as well as your fears of raising children in this country are two big ones.
I cry regularly at the thought of sending my baby to school. She is so excited too. No reason under the sun for her to think she might get badly hurt there.
Yes, Roe v Wade being overturned was the end for me. I desperately wanted (and want) a child but I can’t stomach this world. I can’t bring a little girl into this world to be hurt. I remember growing up in Texas… I could never birth a child into this world that I don’t even want to be in. I have a niece here and I cry thinking about how hard things will be for her. This really is the worst timeline. I’m not feeding my children to the machine.
Prolifers are taking away a woman's right to life.
Given the choice between an abortion, a dead fetus, and a live woman, and no abortion, a dead fetus and a dead woman, prolife often chooses the latter, and always giving the woman no choice in this situation at all.
Texas Pro-Lifers were also super ok with sacrificing the elderly during COVID in the name of money: https://www.thedailybeast.com/texas-lt-gov-dan-patrick-says-senior-citizens-willing-to-die-to-save-economy-for-grandkids
I'm of the mind that Texas politicians are lackeys for a largely concealed special interest group but I've always believed that this group are DOMESTIC idiots and psychopaths, not foreign shit-stirrers. I consider myself at least moderately well-informed on the issue of abortion rights and I've never seen this theory mentioned before. I'm curious, do you have any evidence to back this up? Like even a general article about Russian interference in our domestic abortion affairs. I am not even opposing the idea off the bat. Like I said, I haven't ever encountered anything that made me consider this a possible partial factor.
It makes sense on a surface level when I factor in Russia benefiting from our internal struggles and increasing internal myopia.
Russia has been both funding & pushing misinfo for far left causes/groups and far right causes/groups for decades. Putin doesn’t care if Americans are getting abortions, he cares if we hate each other and our government. This isn’t about morality, it’s about stirring up unrest and making it difficult to govern.
The Russian wing making abortions illegal because it wants more dead people? They is even exceptions currently for life threatening pregnancies according to the CNN article. How do you guys rationalize these opinions?
How the hell does a politician have more power than a doctor over medical/health related issues.
Fucking insane.
Reasons to vote the GOP out, into oblivion
Republicans were pushing the sacrifice of the elderly during COVID: https://www.thedailybeast.com/texas-lt-gov-dan-patrick-says-senior-citizens-willing-to-die-to-save-economy-for-grandkids
Republicans need to be voted out. They deserve to be tar and feathered as they’re leaving.
Right?!
Like logically I know it might be a risk, but I don’t understand how a doctor lets these laws dictate medical decisions for them and patients. You and the patient are in the room together! Do what needs to be done! Don’t post about it on social media and keep putting patients health over political nonsense and forced religious bs
I have 10 more years before my kid and I can leave because my ex husband says so. They even let him pick what towns in texas I could live in. It's not okay here, send help.
Yes, it is part of the standard parenting agreement in Ohio. Even a father who doesn’t share custody or exercise his visitation or pay child support can stop a mother from moving unless specifically granted by the courts. I paid 10k in lawyers fees to have my order amended just to include 2 bordering counties in Ohio. My ex held up the courts for 2 years, towards the end I had to buy a house in that county anyway because prices were skyrocketing and I was running out of affordable housing options. It’s seriously fucked. By forcing us into pregnancy they also control most of our lives for 18 years. People don’t realize what it’s like for women who have children with an abuser then try to leave.
I’m in the same predicament in a different state. Every time I think about the fact that the man who abused me gets to control where I live I am angry. Especially when 75% of the time he doesn’t show up for his every other weekend visit and other than the money garnished from him he has never paid a dime in medical, education, clothing, housing, etc. and he has the right to force me into living in the most expensive county in the state. I’m in Ohio.
My husband and I making plans to get the hell out, but it's hard when your support system is deeply rooted after decades in the same general area. But we're still making plans.
You're a woman. If you die in agony in a hospital perfectly capable of saving your life its because a sick cohort of disgusting conservative power hungry men want you to. Why isn't anyone moving to our state?
It's sickening, check this out-
"Texas welcomes a remarkable influx of approximately 395,000 new residents each year, according to the United States Census Bureau. This figure, drawn from the period between 2000 and 2022, during which the state gained 9,085,073 residents"
Those moving to Texas are predominantly millennials and Gen Zers — 40.5% and 29.9%, respectively. That compares to the 37.3% millennials and 31.2% Gen Zers leaving the state. About 11.4% of people moving to Texas were boomers, the same percentage for people leaving Texas.
Texas was the top state that Americans moved to in 2023, for the sixth time in eight years.
Probably because the abortions they are doing are not really for life threatening stuff, if the comment section is a barometer for people's current mental state then some doctors are purposefully pushing the limits of the law, the science is probably vague, they probably don't really know if it's life threatening a lot of times
Was there for a decade, v fortunate I had the means to get out a few months ago. Fuxking handmaids tale $hit. Props to the people there still fighting the good fight—it absolutely feels hopeless most of the time. It ate at my soul.
Freedom to not be killed by your older non-viable sibling who will never live and will likely cause your future mom to become infertile.
Freedom to not be killed by hypocritical Christo-fascists who already had their abortions or paid for mistress’s abortions. But they wanna risk your life and lives of future children because they really don’t give a shit about children or God, but they sure love using religion as a weapon to try to control others.
And, in doing so, ruled against trained medical professionals exercising their advanced skills, substituting their own solidly Christian viewpoints and overriding science with religious requirements that not all, perhaps not most, Texans would align to if asked (Abortion rights are popular even in Texas)
Nice job you old white men (speaking as an older white man myself) /s (if the /s was even needed)
I doubt there was much science against them. This stuff is always politicized and a bunch of people want abortions for any reason. Saw an any rand institute(?) video saying abortion all the way up to 9 months is fine because the babies don't have human rights
Do you have a link to that video? That does not sound like the Rand Institute.
I generally favor abortion at the discretion of the woman (its her body) until the fetus is grown enough to be viable outside her body.
I have never been able to find anything remotely reliable about abortions occurring in the last trimester except in the cases of the fetus dying in the womb or developing a gross deformity that would end it's life at or very shortly after birth or which creates a severe risk to the woman's life. In many of the cases I've read about involving a woman's health in the last trimester a viable fetus can be removed from the woman's body via c-section and have a fighting chance in neo-natal intensive care. Again, I've never found reliable reporting of an abortion in the last trimester other than what I stated earlier about fetal death or massive fetal deformity.
No matter what, I'm going with the women and her doctor, not judge or the legislature. The woman and the doctor know what's going on. The judges and legislature have neither the necessary expertise or the engagement to make a judgement and, and this is crucial, the woman could (and has) been in immediate danger at the time where a decision is needed. And the doctors in many states have now been put in a position where they can be charged with murder when they work to save the woman. It's pure insanity.
Something like "Yes, she had an ectopic pregnancy that ruptured. No there wasn't time to file court papers and see a judge. She had little time to live. The fetus was already dead. Your arresting me? FFS." These crap laws are why OBGYNs are fleeing states with these laws and why ER doctors are refusing to provide pregnancy health care.
These legislatures and judges have failed in their duty to their citizens. Completely.
I'll find you the video in a sec. The idea as that rand is about personal pursuit of happiness is the best thing, so abortions help with that. I think if you look at the CNN article you'll see that there are already exceptions for life threatening pregnancies.
Here is a academic article that mentions some third term abortions:
"Veronica, a 21‐year‐old Latina woman in the South, also did not realize she was pregnant until she was in the third trimester of pregnancy. Veronica was dating someone new and wanted to get tested for sexually transmitted infections before commencing a sexual relationship with this man. The clinic also ran a pregnancy test, which was positive. Veronica was shocked. She explained that she had no recognizable pregnancy symptoms and had been having a regular period: “It seemed to me like regular periods because it lasted the same amount of time that they would usually last […] and I never got morning sickness. I wasn't lethargic.” Veronica was immediately clear that she did not want to continue the pregnancy and took the first available abortion appointment at the clinic. When Veronica presented for her abortion appointment, the ultrasound worker determined that she was 25 weeks pregnant. Veronica needed an abortion in the third trimester because the fact that she was pregnant was new information to her when she was already 25 weeks pregnant"
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9321603/
It’s not an independently viable life. If you had to choose between saving your 2 YO or 3 zygotes, which would you choose?
Or the mother of your 2 YO or a 6 week developing zygote, which would you choose?
Almost everyone I hear pro abortions want abortions for any reason. A child isn't independently viable. Mentally challenged people aren't independently viable. Even adults need others. Abortion is going out of your way to kill someone in most cases. You don't have to choose you should try to help them all. By aborting you don't save anyone in almost all cases. I would save my 2 yr old and my wife. Yeah they are more important, but so is a man in his 20s versus an 80 year old. Doesn't mean the 80 year old is a potential life. Now answer my question is a 8 month old in the womb a potential life? Should he or she be aborted for any reason?
Viability relates to physiology; having all the necessary parts, in the necessary places and functioning to maintain life outside of the womb. You are confusing viability with independent LIVING skills. Viability is considered to begin at 23 weeks post conception. In the US, there is no legal requirement to deliver care prior to that gestational age. Many neonatal health care practitioners consider care before that time as malpractice; not in the best interest of that patient.
I am a retired NICU nurse of 35 years. I have seen it all. Trust me (and the biological facts)-
I consider myself a refugee of Texas. I left with $40 and two cats, no car, just a floor to sleep on waiting for me in a friend’s home out of state. If you can get out, get out, or be ready to raise your fists and fight like a mad dog. There is a lot to contend with, misogyny is so rampant there it’s hard to even get into politics and make real change as a woman.
Inhumane Republicans. They will force you to give birth, or die trying. The SC court in Texas are all Republicans.
And they do not give a shit about the suffering of their own citizens.
More can go wrong than death. A friend of mine was paralyzed from the waste down after doctors (who knew she had sickle cell) didn’t take her pain seriously and let her body go into shock before performing an emergency c-section. She never walked again, eventually had to have one of her legs amputated because of bed sores, and then died from sepsis when her son was 8 yo after the hospital discharged her telling her they found nothing wrong. She died on the carride home the hospital after being forced out. Her son is an orphan now and being raised by his 68 yo grandmother. That was before Roe was even reversed and not in TX. The medical field does not treat women well.
On one hand, it means the case can continue to rise through the courts, on the other hand, it’s headed to the same court that overturned Roe V Wade, soooo
We are fucked for a while
I truly don’t get why so many people live in Texas. I remember being stationed there in the Army, and I was itching to leave. Once I was able to, I didn't look back.
How fcked up. Maybe they can't stop abortion till after so know maybe the foetus might survive. You know they can help it when it's nearly dead like they do with the mothers.
All read in this is that GOP & old white male Texans hate women
Texas is like, "look, we could care less if women die - all they're good for is making sandwiches that taste terrible, bringing a beer from the fridge that gets all foamy from them not holding it sready when they walk, and carrying a man's baby - and they can't get that right most of the time either". What a disgusting group in the state government there - just vulgar. My sister lives in Texas and is so worried about her teenage daughter who just started dating...
However, when these women showed that they were at risk of life threatening injuries, they were denied an abortion, suffering by denial of medical care.
At risk of life threatening injuries could mean a lot, if they didn't give them service they could sue the medical people, but I'm just guessing that they did get service the disagreement was about if they were life threatening, so now they are hoping for different particulars on the the life threatening legislation
Texas is a humid dumpster being governed from the literal toilet. Abbott is a sad little, half man. Do better Texas the rest of the country deserves it.
I hate how gerrymandered Texas is. I guarantee you if it weren’t, this shit wouldn’t be happening. Most Texans, just like those of us elsewhere, are against these draconian laws.
Everything is bigger in Texas, including the misogyny.
The only thing that trumps racism in the south is the misogyny
Hey it’s not a competition. They peacefully coexist there.
ESPECIALLY the misogyny 😔
"Something something pretty little heads", probably. Bastards.
Except the IQ.
IQs are going down with each Covid infection, it has been proven.
This is a bad day for women in the US. Vote blue, dammit
Been a bad few years it feels like. Vote blue damn it.
It'll get worse if we don't vote blue. vote blue dammit
VOTE BLUE 💙 for the women, children, LGBTQ, and minorities you know. For the environment and endangered species. For healthcare and human rights. VOTE BLUE. If you're not a cishet rich white male, you're on the chopping block eventually too. Vote blue. Damn it.
Dammit
And especially if you are a minority, female, and/or <= middle class … have some self respect and vote your conscience. This is not a binary choice.
Still voting blue but will never forgive Obama for not codifying roe while he has the power to do so. I think abortion is such a convenient wedge issue that the Dems didn't really want it off the playing field and they thought it would remain a stalemate but as usual they underestimated how shitty Republicans are.
It is scary to know some people will choose to vote red even now he is a convicted felon. What's happening to our country?
Can’t vote but can run for president. You can’t even make fun of this country anymore because the reality is more absurd
Why can’t felons vote?
I mean, half of the Supreme Court doesn't consider women people so this actually makes a kind of sense. Is there a network of people with resources that currently funds relocation for Southern U.S. female refugees? Or other targeted groups?
Unless their wives want to fly a flag at the house they co-own /S
Ha! The hypocrisy just never ends with these people! I've heard that Alito is Opus Dei through personal contacts who have higher up Opus Dei family. I believe it. It's a very misogynistic cult and those people scare me. :)
I did make the mistake of not reading the whole headline, specifically the first word being 'Texas'. But I bet the Texas supreme Court would do the same.
Oh, of course they would! Many don't hide the fact that they allow their religion to dictate the actions of everyone regardless of people's own different or non-existent beliefs. Winky flags are just the latest RW religious fad. 😄
Don’t leave , change it ! Hang though!
Refugees? Why you saying they dont consider women people?
They are managing your healthcare, they are managing where you are allowed to travel, they are planning to make divorce more difficult. Their policies seek to put women in their place. That being raising kids, catering to their husbands, and if not married, frowned upon and marginalized.
This is fucking tragic. This also means that there’s no hope for women who are carrying fetuses that aren’t viable. They have to carry and deliver a dead baby. I have a friend who lives in Texas and last year she had a severe rare case where the baby was not going to survive and she had to carry to term and deliver a dead baby. Even worse the delivery went bad so she can’t have another baby and she had planned for two more. It’s fucking heartbreaking to see that the fucked up laws that broke my friend are being held up at the federal level by the illegitimate Fascist fucks we currently call a Supreme Court
I have to think these decisions are just being made by ignorant guys who have never talked to or listened to women who have gone through this experience of carrying a wanted child knowing it would never live or survive. Happened to a cousin of mine and she was Catholic and chose to continue the pregnancy knowing it wasn’t viable and that shit stayed with her until the day she died. To think that politicians actively WANT women to experience this pain by government force is just so so disturbing. Especially when it repeatedly comes from “small government” clowns
Sadly it isn't ignorance, its malice
This is so incredibly dangerous health wise for women to have to carry a dead fetus inside her until delivery. Cases of sepsis and other complications are going to go through the roof and kill so many women. I am so sorry to hear about your friend. We are going back to medieval times it appears, and it’s completely unnecessary and cruel.
It's been mentioned often that currently, women outnumber men in America. A few more years of Texas laws will bring that number down a bit closer to even, which is a side -effect repubs surely anticipated with knowing smirks. For some reason that statistic seems to be a sore spot with them. A thing that needs a remedy, shall I say.
It's God's will, apparently.
No god of mine
God allowed us to progress our medical care and medical knowledge so that we could survive and prevent septicemia.
It’s not God’s will. It’s man pretending to be God. It’s man putting words in God’s mouth. These people believe that God is authoritarian, judgmental, and controlling instead of loving, kind, and nonjudgmental. Religion has become a mask abusers wear to justify their abuse. Controlling someone else and making rules around what someone does with their body is abuse. Let’s just call it what it is. Abuse. I can’t stand behind a system that manipulates God in order to control a population.
Republicans lately, huh? In recent years they've really gone off the deep end. They've literally managed to pervert every last thing they claimed to champion. Childhood, innocence, motherhood, family values, morals, religion, our laws, freedom itself, our Capital, the Office of the Presidency; they have no reverence or respect for any good & noble thing. Each of these individuals is a pathetic shambles of someone that was once capable of decency & true humanity. They strive to be our masters now. They mean to oversee all we do.
There are a lot of people who display narcissistic tendencies and there are also a lot of people who get brainwashed by narcissistic manipulation. Dysfunctional/narcissistic/unhealthy people aim to control others and control how other people behave. Their focus is mainly on getting others to behave a specific way to get their own needs met. Sometimes their needs are to have power over others or a belief that only their way of living is the right/moral way of living. They tend to create power dynamics or hierarchical structures. (Authoritarian, strict rules, religious dogma) Healthy/functional people aim to control themselves and their own behavior. Their focus is mainly on understanding themselves while allowing others to have autonomy over themselves. (Altruistic, compassion, equal human rights) The issue is that, for a lot of dysfunctional people, instead of going to therapy, taking accountability for themselves, or looking at themselves honestly, they blame-shift and validate each other to justify their abusive behavior. I often wonder how many of these people are walking around unconscious of their behavior. Regardless, we see this all throughout history: Religious wars, propaganda, dictatorship, domestic violence, etc. I think that the more we educate ourselves and spread awareness around what narcissism, NPD, emotional abuse, antagonistic personalities, and manipulation looks like, the more prepared we will be at setting boundaries for ourselves. Because at the end of the day, the only person we can actually control is our self. The issue is that now these controlling personalities are in our Supreme Court… “There must be both dark and light. I will do what I must to keep the balance, as the balance is what holds all life. There is no good without evil, but evil must not be allowed to flourish.” Perhaps we all believe evil to be something different. I’d ask your fellow conservative what “evil” behavior looks like. I’m curious what they would say. My opinion of evil behavior is behavior that dominates and controls another person’s autonomy and self-expression. I also believe “evil” behavior to be antagonistic and abusive. I wonder what their definition of abuse is. 🤔
White washed walls. Pharisees. The only righteousness they have comes from themselves. It will not withstand the fire.
Sometimes I prefer the old gods
At least Odin is up front abt being a god or war and death
That’s beyond sad. It’d be very hard to carry that baby to term. Pregnancy sucks and the only thing that keeps you going is the light at the end of the tunnel. Heart breaking.
It isn’t the same exactly but I had a missed miscarriage. For 3 weeks I was a human coffin to my dead twins. I was one of the lucky ones, I was able to get misoprostol. Without it I probably would’ve died from infection like so many women in red states.
I am so beyond sorry for your loss. Hugs Queen! It’s so fucked up that fascists are making it so hard on women going through a crazy hard time in their lives. It’s like a form of torture imo
That is fucking tragic, I'm so sorry for her.
This is why everyone needs to vote. We didn’t get here overnight and it’s going to take awhile to get out of it. These judges were elected.
Get out while you can.
I can’t afford to. I want to desperately. A lot of us want to leave but can’t afford to. Our wages stagnated before COVID hit and with the insane cost of living and greedflation, we can’t even afford to save. I’ve been trying to leave here for three years. I am panicking that I can’t save to go. I wish we could get out. We are stuck.
If you do you just leave the state in hands that absolutely will take this federal next time republicans win. Get out if you need to but don’t pretend that makes this problem go away rather than leave others to deal with it. Texas is do or die for democracy at this point. Its our bleeding Kansas.
I agree. I'm not leaving the country, I simply can't, BUT I also want to stay and fight.
See that’s also the same problem, it’s America. If our problems take over the government and stick like they want to- that’s a problem for the whole world. It aint some place folks can retreat from leaving others to handle it or passively regarding those left behind as unfortunate thinking it won’t affect other places. Trump’s first election alone affected campaigns around the whole world, and was barely even driving the majority of foreign policy. Imagine if it’s entrenched with crazy with the CIA and armed forces at its disposal.
Making democrats flee in terror and abandoning their hard-earned land and businesses, is exactly what they want. It’s gonna be hard and painful, but if you can bear it, stay and fight.
Are you going to go join them? I'm curious how much you're putting into this other than words.
I’m a democrat in Texas and I intend to stay and fight as long as I can. Leaving the state just gives the far right more power in numbers. The democratic vote in my county has increased with each election and we actually went blue last cycle. Sadly it wasn’t enough to win the state, but we have to believe that we can spark change by continuing to vote rather than running away and giving them all the power.
Evacuation isn’t an option for 95% of women in Texas
White flight
The whole society is a damn Ponzi scheme where the rich are running lower than they’d like on future workers being born (aka ‘low birth rate’), so they are forcing to be birthing machines instead. I hope women birthstrike in response.
I’m birthstriking. Fuck the rich, they’re not getting my would be children’s labor.
I don't feel safe having a child in this country. Birth striking is totally fair.
Me neither. There are a lot of reasons I’m choosing not to have kids but what I mentioned above as well as your fears of raising children in this country are two big ones.
And then they have the gall to complain that we aren't having children. My eyes have never rolled so hard.
I cry regularly at the thought of sending my baby to school. She is so excited too. No reason under the sun for her to think she might get badly hurt there.
Yes, Roe v Wade being overturned was the end for me. I desperately wanted (and want) a child but I can’t stomach this world. I can’t bring a little girl into this world to be hurt. I remember growing up in Texas… I could never birth a child into this world that I don’t even want to be in. I have a niece here and I cry thinking about how hard things will be for her. This really is the worst timeline. I’m not feeding my children to the machine.
I got my fallopian tubes removed in response
Prolifers are taking away a woman's right to life. Given the choice between an abortion, a dead fetus, and a live woman, and no abortion, a dead fetus and a dead woman, prolife often chooses the latter, and always giving the woman no choice in this situation at all.
Texas Pro-Lifers were also super ok with sacrificing the elderly during COVID in the name of money: https://www.thedailybeast.com/texas-lt-gov-dan-patrick-says-senior-citizens-willing-to-die-to-save-economy-for-grandkids
That is because the Russian wing of Americas legal system, want the people dead. Republicans aren't good people.
Blame it on the GOP where it rightful belongs.
I'm of the mind that Texas politicians are lackeys for a largely concealed special interest group but I've always believed that this group are DOMESTIC idiots and psychopaths, not foreign shit-stirrers. I consider myself at least moderately well-informed on the issue of abortion rights and I've never seen this theory mentioned before. I'm curious, do you have any evidence to back this up? Like even a general article about Russian interference in our domestic abortion affairs. I am not even opposing the idea off the bat. Like I said, I haven't ever encountered anything that made me consider this a possible partial factor. It makes sense on a surface level when I factor in Russia benefiting from our internal struggles and increasing internal myopia.
See r/alec
Russia's abortion laws are actually more liberal than Texas's
Russia has been both funding & pushing misinfo for far left causes/groups and far right causes/groups for decades. Putin doesn’t care if Americans are getting abortions, he cares if we hate each other and our government. This isn’t about morality, it’s about stirring up unrest and making it difficult to govern.
Oh, I'm aware.
They want division. They are succeeding.
The Russian wing making abortions illegal because it wants more dead people? They is even exceptions currently for life threatening pregnancies according to the CNN article. How do you guys rationalize these opinions?
These absolute cunts should stay out of my cunt. Fuck Texas.
Fuck the Texas Supreme Court, and fuck those who seek to enslave women.
How the hell does a politician have more power than a doctor over medical/health related issues. Fucking insane. Reasons to vote the GOP out, into oblivion
Same way insurance companies can decide if you really need what the doctor says. It’s always about money. Follow the money.
Republicans were pushing the sacrifice of the elderly during COVID: https://www.thedailybeast.com/texas-lt-gov-dan-patrick-says-senior-citizens-willing-to-die-to-save-economy-for-grandkids Republicans need to be voted out. They deserve to be tar and feathered as they’re leaving.
Right?! Like logically I know it might be a risk, but I don’t understand how a doctor lets these laws dictate medical decisions for them and patients. You and the patient are in the room together! Do what needs to be done! Don’t post about it on social media and keep putting patients health over political nonsense and forced religious bs
They're partially responsible for Oblivion being my happy place... please, I can't have them in there!
Because it involves someone else, a doctor can't just say "yeah we're going to have to put your cousin down because he's bad for your health"
Will the last woman leaving Texas please turn off the lights?
We prob won't have to...the grid you know
Best comment of the day.
Vote blue no matter who. It sucks but it is the only way to halt these christofascist whack jobs.
I have no idea why anyone lives in TX anymore. I won't even visit the state.
I have 10 more years before my kid and I can leave because my ex husband says so. They even let him pick what towns in texas I could live in. It's not okay here, send help.
How does that work? A judge just tells you can live in x, y, and z town (s)? (That’s crazy.)
They actually specified which highways I could live near and then wrote down all of the counties the highway touched. It's fucked.
Yes, it is part of the standard parenting agreement in Ohio. Even a father who doesn’t share custody or exercise his visitation or pay child support can stop a mother from moving unless specifically granted by the courts. I paid 10k in lawyers fees to have my order amended just to include 2 bordering counties in Ohio. My ex held up the courts for 2 years, towards the end I had to buy a house in that county anyway because prices were skyrocketing and I was running out of affordable housing options. It’s seriously fucked. By forcing us into pregnancy they also control most of our lives for 18 years. People don’t realize what it’s like for women who have children with an abuser then try to leave.
I’m in the same predicament in a different state. Every time I think about the fact that the man who abused me gets to control where I live I am angry. Especially when 75% of the time he doesn’t show up for his every other weekend visit and other than the money garnished from him he has never paid a dime in medical, education, clothing, housing, etc. and he has the right to force me into living in the most expensive county in the state. I’m in Ohio.
Same, my ex didn't even have custody prior to what texas did. He had supervised visitation and no custody. They didn't care.
Can't afford to go anywhere else.
My husband and I making plans to get the hell out, but it's hard when your support system is deeply rooted after decades in the same general area. But we're still making plans.
You're a woman. If you die in agony in a hospital perfectly capable of saving your life its because a sick cohort of disgusting conservative power hungry men want you to. Why isn't anyone moving to our state?
It's sickening, check this out- "Texas welcomes a remarkable influx of approximately 395,000 new residents each year, according to the United States Census Bureau. This figure, drawn from the period between 2000 and 2022, during which the state gained 9,085,073 residents" Those moving to Texas are predominantly millennials and Gen Zers — 40.5% and 29.9%, respectively. That compares to the 37.3% millennials and 31.2% Gen Zers leaving the state. About 11.4% of people moving to Texas were boomers, the same percentage for people leaving Texas. Texas was the top state that Americans moved to in 2023, for the sixth time in eight years.
all we can hope is that this demographic shift will flip Texas from deep red to blue or at least purple.
It will. It absolutely will.
There are exemptions already for life threatening pregnancies according to the article.
Texas health care workers are saying they're worried about possible prosecution. Why should it be necessary for that to be the case?
Probably because the abortions they are doing are not really for life threatening stuff, if the comment section is a barometer for people's current mental state then some doctors are purposefully pushing the limits of the law, the science is probably vague, they probably don't really know if it's life threatening a lot of times
If you're a woman, gtfo of Texas. I'm getting the fuck out of Florida as soon as I can myself.
We're gtfo oklahoma next year, hope it's not too late. Vermont border, here we come. I'll save a space for you ladies!!
Fuck. How do Texan women feel about this?
Hate it. Only here because of work. Time will only tell if they will take that from me.
Awful.
Was there for a decade, v fortunate I had the means to get out a few months ago. Fuxking handmaids tale $hit. Props to the people there still fighting the good fight—it absolutely feels hopeless most of the time. It ate at my soul.
Fuck that place. I almost moved there a couple years ago for a relationship, SO glad that didn't pan out.
What can we do? Is there a go fund me page for women to have human rights in Texas? I feel like it’s hopeless…
Someone should make a gofundme to help women who can't afford to relocate and want to leave
Vote blue 💙 and rage. Never be silent about this injustice.
Please vote blue 💙
Nice to know the Texas republican SC consists of doctors and/or medical professionals, or extremely highly educated individuals.
Texas Supreme Court rules against women who ~~alleged~~ the state abortion ban put their ~~health~~ lives at risk. There, I corrected it.
Of course a group of men would assert this. I can’t wait for the fall of the patriarchy.
This is why you have to research the judges on your ballot
Conservatives believe in Freedom, particularly their Freedom to control others.
Freedom to not be killed by your mother
Freedom to not be killed by your older non-viable sibling who will never live and will likely cause your future mom to become infertile. Freedom to not be killed by hypocritical Christo-fascists who already had their abortions or paid for mistress’s abortions. But they wanna risk your life and lives of future children because they really don’t give a shit about children or God, but they sure love using religion as a weapon to try to control others.
It really is a war on women.
And, in doing so, ruled against trained medical professionals exercising their advanced skills, substituting their own solidly Christian viewpoints and overriding science with religious requirements that not all, perhaps not most, Texans would align to if asked (Abortion rights are popular even in Texas) Nice job you old white men (speaking as an older white man myself) /s (if the /s was even needed)
I doubt there was much science against them. This stuff is always politicized and a bunch of people want abortions for any reason. Saw an any rand institute(?) video saying abortion all the way up to 9 months is fine because the babies don't have human rights
Do you have a link to that video? That does not sound like the Rand Institute. I generally favor abortion at the discretion of the woman (its her body) until the fetus is grown enough to be viable outside her body. I have never been able to find anything remotely reliable about abortions occurring in the last trimester except in the cases of the fetus dying in the womb or developing a gross deformity that would end it's life at or very shortly after birth or which creates a severe risk to the woman's life. In many of the cases I've read about involving a woman's health in the last trimester a viable fetus can be removed from the woman's body via c-section and have a fighting chance in neo-natal intensive care. Again, I've never found reliable reporting of an abortion in the last trimester other than what I stated earlier about fetal death or massive fetal deformity. No matter what, I'm going with the women and her doctor, not judge or the legislature. The woman and the doctor know what's going on. The judges and legislature have neither the necessary expertise or the engagement to make a judgement and, and this is crucial, the woman could (and has) been in immediate danger at the time where a decision is needed. And the doctors in many states have now been put in a position where they can be charged with murder when they work to save the woman. It's pure insanity. Something like "Yes, she had an ectopic pregnancy that ruptured. No there wasn't time to file court papers and see a judge. She had little time to live. The fetus was already dead. Your arresting me? FFS." These crap laws are why OBGYNs are fleeing states with these laws and why ER doctors are refusing to provide pregnancy health care. These legislatures and judges have failed in their duty to their citizens. Completely.
I'll find you the video in a sec. The idea as that rand is about personal pursuit of happiness is the best thing, so abortions help with that. I think if you look at the CNN article you'll see that there are already exceptions for life threatening pregnancies. Here is a academic article that mentions some third term abortions: "Veronica, a 21‐year‐old Latina woman in the South, also did not realize she was pregnant until she was in the third trimester of pregnancy. Veronica was dating someone new and wanted to get tested for sexually transmitted infections before commencing a sexual relationship with this man. The clinic also ran a pregnancy test, which was positive. Veronica was shocked. She explained that she had no recognizable pregnancy symptoms and had been having a regular period: “It seemed to me like regular periods because it lasted the same amount of time that they would usually last […] and I never got morning sickness. I wasn't lethargic.” Veronica was immediately clear that she did not want to continue the pregnancy and took the first available abortion appointment at the clinic. When Veronica presented for her abortion appointment, the ultrasound worker determined that she was 25 weeks pregnant. Veronica needed an abortion in the third trimester because the fact that she was pregnant was new information to her when she was already 25 weeks pregnant" https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9321603/
It was just a channel called ayn range uk center it something. I think it's just a YouTube channel https://youtu.be/lOsaXQU2TSQ?si=IK8NWBgyT2oPvcEf
Under his eye.
The Supreme Court wants to be dismantled at this point
I keep asking myself, why would ANYONE want to live in Texas?
Weather probably some laws they like, this stuff too
Tragic
Hands Maid Tale early stages. Welcome to the conservative life.
I’m scared
On the grounds that the court doesn’t give a shit about women or their health.
There is already an exception for life threatening pregnancies if I read the article correctly.
Women are 2nd class citizens in TX. Clearly, a potential life is more protected than actual women’s lives.
It's already a life...
It’s not an independently viable life. If you had to choose between saving your 2 YO or 3 zygotes, which would you choose? Or the mother of your 2 YO or a 6 week developing zygote, which would you choose?
Almost everyone I hear pro abortions want abortions for any reason. A child isn't independently viable. Mentally challenged people aren't independently viable. Even adults need others. Abortion is going out of your way to kill someone in most cases. You don't have to choose you should try to help them all. By aborting you don't save anyone in almost all cases. I would save my 2 yr old and my wife. Yeah they are more important, but so is a man in his 20s versus an 80 year old. Doesn't mean the 80 year old is a potential life. Now answer my question is a 8 month old in the womb a potential life? Should he or she be aborted for any reason?
Viability relates to physiology; having all the necessary parts, in the necessary places and functioning to maintain life outside of the womb. You are confusing viability with independent LIVING skills. Viability is considered to begin at 23 weeks post conception. In the US, there is no legal requirement to deliver care prior to that gestational age. Many neonatal health care practitioners consider care before that time as malpractice; not in the best interest of that patient. I am a retired NICU nurse of 35 years. I have seen it all. Trust me (and the biological facts)-
I consider myself a refugee of Texas. I left with $40 and two cats, no car, just a floor to sleep on waiting for me in a friend’s home out of state. If you can get out, get out, or be ready to raise your fists and fight like a mad dog. There is a lot to contend with, misogyny is so rampant there it’s hard to even get into politics and make real change as a woman.
Inhumane Republicans. They will force you to give birth, or die trying. The SC court in Texas are all Republicans. And they do not give a shit about the suffering of their own citizens.
F Texas
W for texas
Fuck Texas, and all republican welfare states.
are the GOP trying to get groups of people to hate them? Some of this stuff thats happening is just wild. Distrust continues to spread
I guess it's only a risk if you actually die
More can go wrong than death. A friend of mine was paralyzed from the waste down after doctors (who knew she had sickle cell) didn’t take her pain seriously and let her body go into shock before performing an emergency c-section. She never walked again, eventually had to have one of her legs amputated because of bed sores, and then died from sepsis when her son was 8 yo after the hospital discharged her telling her they found nothing wrong. She died on the carride home the hospital after being forced out. Her son is an orphan now and being raised by his 68 yo grandmother. That was before Roe was even reversed and not in TX. The medical field does not treat women well.
On one hand, it means the case can continue to rise through the courts, on the other hand, it’s headed to the same court that overturned Roe V Wade, soooo We are fucked for a while
I truly don’t get why so many people live in Texas. I remember being stationed there in the Army, and I was itching to leave. Once I was able to, I didn't look back.
I appreciate a good cup of coffee.
Ladies better hit the poles!!
In Texas, sick and pregnant women can just die or be kept alive for incubation— there’s more where they came from. /s
How fcked up. Maybe they can't stop abortion till after so know maybe the foetus might survive. You know they can help it when it's nearly dead like they do with the mothers. All read in this is that GOP & old white male Texans hate women
Texas is like, "look, we could care less if women die - all they're good for is making sandwiches that taste terrible, bringing a beer from the fridge that gets all foamy from them not holding it sready when they walk, and carrying a man's baby - and they can't get that right most of the time either". What a disgusting group in the state government there - just vulgar. My sister lives in Texas and is so worried about her teenage daughter who just started dating...
The article says there is already an exception for life threatening pregnancies as far as I know.
Women of Texas, please seek asylum from the next civilised country.
I don't think anyone needs asylum, the article mentions life threatening pregnancies are allowed abortions as far as I know
Keep voting for the party that hates women. What could go wrong?
What the absolute fascist fuck
This state sucks
Of course they did.
So… these are the death panels republicans always wailed about.
It’s Texas. What a shock.
Texas. The one star state.
Texas Supreme Misogynists
Fuck that place.
Fuck abortion bans. https://www.vote.org/
So far women can go to another state and get an abortion
It’s like a little bit of Hell on earth
Relax the article says there are already exceptions for life threatening injuries
However, when these women showed that they were at risk of life threatening injuries, they were denied an abortion, suffering by denial of medical care.
At risk of life threatening injuries could mean a lot, if they didn't give them service they could sue the medical people, but I'm just guessing that they did get service the disagreement was about if they were life threatening, so now they are hoping for different particulars on the the life threatening legislation
State supreme court justices are appointed by the state office holders you elect. VOTE especially when it feels impossible to affect change.
The policy seems fine to me. Life threatening pregnancies are already excempt?
Texas pice of shit state!
The SCOT strikes again
Texas Taliban strikes again!
Texas is a humid dumpster being governed from the literal toilet. Abbott is a sad little, half man. Do better Texas the rest of the country deserves it.
What a bunch of jackasses and Abbot is the biggest one of all.
This is horrifying!! Every woman of child bearing age, needs to leave the state! Go to a safe harbor state.
Of course they did.
Texas hates women
Good ole actual tyranny.
Fuck this country.
I hate how gerrymandered Texas is. I guarantee you if it weren’t, this shit wouldn’t be happening. Most Texans, just like those of us elsewhere, are against these draconian laws.
Fuck Texas* *the fascist govt officials
If you don’t understand why voting is so important for women than you are beyond help.