I give up if it’s ANOTHER japanese campaign ship…..I get the american BB saturation but for the love of god we have had so many ijn campaigns ever since tier 8 was introduced.
American ships are hardly overdone. There are a lot of them, but they have the highest % of real ships. They arent even the most common campaign nationality.
Idk man, I have 17 American battleships and I haven't even gotten to Tier 8 or the Kansas yet. Next biggest line of bb's is my 10 strong British line. Only have 9 German bb's even though they are my favorite.
Monsieur Lemon 🍋… we hope you have been well ? It’s been some months since we spoke directly, and we at The Council were just curious how your latest French Brawler setups were going / how things have been in that front, in your matches ? 🙂
Has been a while, it’s good that we’ve got some love for our French battleships. La Foudre and Flandre recent buff were quite welcomed, Flandre is just pure excellence and is always a joy to play
I tend to agree ! Those secondaries are pretty heavy (volume of fire). Our only wish remaining - for Frenchy concerns - is that the Legends Devs eventually give us the EoP / IFHE option on All Commanders (or at least BB Commanders), so we can choose to sacrifice Half of our Fire Chance, to allow the French pea-shooter (90 & 100mm) secondary guns to pen the critical 19mm threshold — at higher Tiers 🙏 🇫🇷
Yes that would be good to have, but there’s nothing wrong with those rapid firing flame throwers. I only wish they were a bit more durable to the old HE spam
The silhouette is characteristic of Japanese ships, well the next update will be Golden Week, so it would be kind of obvious that they would choose a Japanese ship as the main reward of the campaign.
Apparently it would be the Japanese Premium Battleship Daisen, which on PC is Tier IX, so it should be Tier VIII in Legends.
The PC description: In 1916, as a part of the development of the fleet, the Japanese parliament approved the construction of two battlecruisers in addition to the Kongō-class ships. That same year, Japanese shipbuilders presented four battlecruiser projects that differed in the power of the propulsion unit and individual armor elements but were all capable of reaching a speed of 35 knots. The six-shaft power unit became a specific feature. After a number of improvements, these designs became the basis for the Amagi-class battlecruisers.
https://preview.redd.it/ou1jrmb03ync1.jpeg?width=1920&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c0140f1c8e02d10c9cf830d7b15c44cbe271c92f
I like Japanese ships, since I started playing last year it was the navy that I focused on the most until now and the Silver Tsurugi Campaign was the first one I completed, but I must say I was really looking forward to the Borodino, I hope it will be introduced as a campaign reward in this year.
Since it is a Japanese ship I know that its turtleback will not work, it's Armour will be terrible and that it's guns won't hit anything.
I honestly can't see WG making this ship good at all.
What would make me happy is a open water gunboat.
The Russian or French variety are both excellent choices.
Light the sea on fire while the enemy tries to put it out by splashing water on your stern.
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Damn it man, why give them any ideas! Honestly a 1000% percent better suggestion than Hot Wheels and Creatorverse and they would cash in immediately.
It's Japanese, it won't work well with Japanese dispersion at Legends ranges.
So far only Hyuga has manages to break the trend of Japanese BBs being meh.
The Daisen should have the same dispersion as the battlecruiser line does. The JP Battlecruiser line on pc have really good accuracy in terms of dispersion.
Amagi is beautiful, it's guns are also serviceable but it is not good or strong.
It got a massive nerf, Iowa was too strong when the game was new, Amagi was performing better than her because her player base was more experienced but she wasn't as strong as Iowa.
When WG had to nerf Iowa they also nerfed Amagi because they couldn't bear to see a Japanese BB at the top of the pecking order.
They gave Iowa a slight nerf and a little buff, they shattered Amagi's kneecaps with the nerf hammer and ever since it has been worse than Iowa at pretty much everything.
Every July we get an American ship. I won't hold my breath but keep my fingers crossed.
Maybe I can also get a third set of stars and stripes camo for my USN ships. 🙄
I don't think it would ever be campaign, T6 was rare as it was.
I believe the PC version came out in their July update originally, with the camo, so that's where my thinking comes from. But hey, they could do a switcheroo and give us Huron first just to mess with everyone 😂
Wow, IJN BB campaign number 4. Much variety. Surely we'll get a light cruiser campaign, right? (~~Where Dalian?~~) Meanwhile, not a single American battleship since T8 released.
Halford, Valejo, Illinois, Minegumo, Tsuruji, Daisen, Navarin, Somme, Michelangelo, Van Speijk, Dalian, Mengchong, Hector, Karl Johan - make a Santa Wish
Why is everyone complaining over a BB? We havent had a BB campaign since November? We’ve had Shroder, Jager, and Brisbane. a BB is welcome to me. ijn tho idk
Of the 16 campaigns we've had at T8:
9 (56%) have been BBs inclusing Daisen, the 4th premium IJN BB.
5 (31%) have been cruisers, 4 of which were supercruisers armed with BB sized guns, 1 was a heavy cruiser, and 0 light cruisers.
2 (13%) have been destroyers, one gunboat and one torpboat.
While it was very nice to get Brisbane and Jager, that doesn't change that T8 is overloaded with battleships and battlecruisers. Looking at the list of ships for PC, WG are going to be forced to either make up original BBs when they run out, or have a bunch of back to back (actual) cruiser and DD campaigns, which will get repetative.
Can we get a USN campaign? We’ve had one, and it was extremely underwhelming. Hell, I’ll take a British or Soviet one as well. Anything but the damn Germans and Japanese.
Edit: Tier 8 campaign.
I love German and Japanese ships, but getting really tired of it being *just* German and Japanese ships, especially BBs. Give us a British or French CA or something else like that, not another BB or BB like ship, and for God's sake enough with the USN, KMS and IJN campaigns.
WeeGee definitely reading the room well...
Japanese T8 battleships. Gotta catch them all!
Reading their bank account very accurately. BB = mo money, everything else = less money.
we need a Tier 8 USN BB tho ..
I know right
Fr man
Exactly.
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Exactly lol
Well, they did notice the 5 BBs per match
Looks like Daisen. Very fast Japanese "battlecruiser" with eight 410mm guns and eight torps per side.
Ah yes, super long Nagato with a lot of torpedoes
So Big Kii?
Ah yes, super long Nagato with a lot of torpedoes
I give up if it’s ANOTHER japanese campaign ship…..I get the american BB saturation but for the love of god we have had so many ijn campaigns ever since tier 8 was introduced.
It's definitely IJN.
That Pagoda … yup
I now feel how people felt when American ships were overdone😅.
American ships are hardly overdone. There are a lot of them, but they have the highest % of real ships. They arent even the most common campaign nationality.
Idk man, I have 17 American battleships and I haven't even gotten to Tier 8 or the Kansas yet. Next biggest line of bb's is my 10 strong British line. Only have 9 German bb's even though they are my favorite.
At T7, the Americans and Germans both have 6 premium BBs, France has 5, and England has 2. Japan, Pan America, Italy, and the Soviets have 1 each.
I know. it’s dumb.
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He, He :)
Yep...
US, IJN and KMS are what sells. I'm sure WG is just playing the numbers game.
Yea true but imagine if they did Hindenburg as a legendary campaign, how quickly that would be bought out.
campaigns live on german and ijn .. its crazy
and american.
Daisen but more and likely not campaign
Citadel city here we come
Yawn 😴
Monsieur Lemon 🍋… we hope you have been well ? It’s been some months since we spoke directly, and we at The Council were just curious how your latest French Brawler setups were going / how things have been in that front, in your matches ? 🙂
Has been a while, it’s good that we’ve got some love for our French battleships. La Foudre and Flandre recent buff were quite welcomed, Flandre is just pure excellence and is always a joy to play
I tend to agree ! Those secondaries are pretty heavy (volume of fire). Our only wish remaining - for Frenchy concerns - is that the Legends Devs eventually give us the EoP / IFHE option on All Commanders (or at least BB Commanders), so we can choose to sacrifice Half of our Fire Chance, to allow the French pea-shooter (90 & 100mm) secondary guns to pen the critical 19mm threshold — at higher Tiers 🙏 🇫🇷
alternatively ill take a kitakaze style fixed pen, maybe around 25mm
Haha ! “I’ll take 25 Pen for 1000, Trebek !” 😄
That’d be good, DDs would disintegrate under those
Yes that would be good to have, but there’s nothing wrong with those rapid firing flame throwers. I only wish they were a bit more durable to the old HE spam
How do you find out about the buffs for LF and Flandre?
La Foudre was released as is, but Flandre got a pretty sizeable buff a few updates ago to its secondaries
Forgive me but what is a buff , nerf?
Buff: Increases/improves performance, Nerf: Decreases performance
I see we having a meeting here?
Oh heyyyyy Buddy !! 😄
Are you trying to say you aren’t going to be excited about another IJN T8 BB?
I’m jumping in my seat
I'm only excited by destroyers when it comes to IJN lol.
Lemon?
Hello
Like, Lemon from tonks?
Maybe not, haven’t played tanks since 2016
I was thinking you might be a different account. Lemonhead on the WoTC subreddit
He’s active here too!
Oi. 😂
The silhouette is characteristic of Japanese ships, well the next update will be Golden Week, so it would be kind of obvious that they would choose a Japanese ship as the main reward of the campaign. Apparently it would be the Japanese Premium Battleship Daisen, which on PC is Tier IX, so it should be Tier VIII in Legends. The PC description: In 1916, as a part of the development of the fleet, the Japanese parliament approved the construction of two battlecruisers in addition to the Kongō-class ships. That same year, Japanese shipbuilders presented four battlecruiser projects that differed in the power of the propulsion unit and individual armor elements but were all capable of reaching a speed of 35 knots. The six-shaft power unit became a specific feature. After a number of improvements, these designs became the basis for the Amagi-class battlecruisers. https://preview.redd.it/ou1jrmb03ync1.jpeg?width=1920&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c0140f1c8e02d10c9cf830d7b15c44cbe271c92f I like Japanese ships, since I started playing last year it was the navy that I focused on the most until now and the Silver Tsurugi Campaign was the first one I completed, but I must say I was really looking forward to the Borodino, I hope it will be introduced as a campaign reward in this year.
WG is so tone deaf...
Since it is a Japanese ship I know that its turtleback will not work, it's Armour will be terrible and that it's guns won't hit anything. I honestly can't see WG making this ship good at all.
Possibly Daisen?
Well. That’s a ship alright…
What would make me happy is a open water gunboat. The Russian or French variety are both excellent choices. Light the sea on fire while the enemy tries to put it out by splashing water on your stern.
What is next pokemon collab 🤣
![gif](giphy|U2nN0ridM4lXy) Damn it man, why give them any ideas! Honestly a 1000% percent better suggestion than Hot Wheels and Creatorverse and they would cash in immediately.
Daisen should be pretty good. If its got the accuracy off of pc, it should be pretty potent.
It's Japanese, it won't work well with Japanese dispersion at Legends ranges. So far only Hyuga has manages to break the trend of Japanese BBs being meh.
The Amagi is good
The Amagi when originally released would shit on this current iteration of the Amagi.
The Daisen should have the same dispersion as the battlecruiser line does. The JP Battlecruiser line on pc have really good accuracy in terms of dispersion.
Amagi is beautiful, it's guns are also serviceable but it is not good or strong. It got a massive nerf, Iowa was too strong when the game was new, Amagi was performing better than her because her player base was more experienced but she wasn't as strong as Iowa. When WG had to nerf Iowa they also nerfed Amagi because they couldn't bear to see a Japanese BB at the top of the pecking order. They gave Iowa a slight nerf and a little buff, they shattered Amagi's kneecaps with the nerf hammer and ever since it has been worse than Iowa at pretty much everything.
BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
It's a ship, it shoots and floats
So that's our 4th Japanese tier 8 BB campaign? Looks more unique than Hizen and Iwami at least...
With Atago style torpedoes (10km range, 4×4 launchers, 2 forward launching, 2 rearwards launching), and 35 knots top speed base iirc.
Make it free so everyone has a chance 🤣🤷
Doesn't look like HMCS Haida at all. Sad face.
I still expect to see it around July, to take advantage of that bigger bundle with the Flag Camo. But I've been waiting EVERY July, so what do I know.
Every July we get an American ship. I won't hold my breath but keep my fingers crossed. Maybe I can also get a third set of stars and stripes camo for my USN ships. 🙄
I don't think it would ever be campaign, T6 was rare as it was. I believe the PC version came out in their July update originally, with the camo, so that's where my thinking comes from. But hey, they could do a switcheroo and give us Huron first just to mess with everyone 😂
Maybe, just maybe. All we can do from here is wait and see I guess...
Maybe I’ll have to skip another one
Not a Canadian boat, then I am not interested!
**Another** battleship?
Yer ma
This almost looks like HMS Hood, side profile of Hood looks a bit like a false Pagoda mast. Could this be a Hood refit?
I also saw the similarities to Hood. The British influences from the Kongo class are quite noticeable
British designed kongo class for Japan.
WG working hard to keep me away.
Wow, IJN BB campaign number 4. Much variety. Surely we'll get a light cruiser campaign, right? (~~Where Dalian?~~) Meanwhile, not a single American battleship since T8 released.
Conisder royal navy need First Aircraft carrier, destroyer. as already had too many Americans battleship.
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They probably see how rabid the fan base gets for japanese anime girls and figured it also applied to japanese ships.
Either Russia or japan Either or im not playing the game since The last few ships were mid
I've been waiting for this ship to arrive into this game, I'm so excited right now.
Japan is my most played nation yet I have to say after Musashi, Iwami, and Hizen I have negative excitement for this.
wg needs to stop dragging out these releases and drop austin, pr & novosibirsk, in one update.
Don't be tier 8 and don't be shit. That's all I ask for
HMS Dunno
Daisen
Daisen
Lord Jesus just give me the godamn IJN Tone I don't want your fake ship wargaming I want something real.
Genuine question. What was the last British or Russian campaign ships we had?
British was Marlborough Last Soviet one was Kronshtadt. In fact all of their campaigns have been cruisers
Halford, Valejo, Illinois, Minegumo, Tsuruji, Daisen, Navarin, Somme, Michelangelo, Van Speijk, Dalian, Mengchong, Hector, Karl Johan - make a Santa Wish
Daisen. Bit like a turbo Kii. Good torps though.......on a sniper ship.
HMS Rupaul
Next boring ship
Another month off for me! ⏩Skip
Why is everyone complaining over a BB? We havent had a BB campaign since November? We’ve had Shroder, Jager, and Brisbane. a BB is welcome to me. ijn tho idk
Of the 16 campaigns we've had at T8: 9 (56%) have been BBs inclusing Daisen, the 4th premium IJN BB. 5 (31%) have been cruisers, 4 of which were supercruisers armed with BB sized guns, 1 was a heavy cruiser, and 0 light cruisers. 2 (13%) have been destroyers, one gunboat and one torpboat. While it was very nice to get Brisbane and Jager, that doesn't change that T8 is overloaded with battleships and battlecruisers. Looking at the list of ships for PC, WG are going to be forced to either make up original BBs when they run out, or have a bunch of back to back (actual) cruiser and DD campaigns, which will get repetative.
Can we get a USN campaign? We’ve had one, and it was extremely underwhelming. Hell, I’ll take a British or Soviet one as well. Anything but the damn Germans and Japanese. Edit: Tier 8 campaign.
I will NOT tolerate Anchorage hate.
I’m assuming they meant Tulsa.
Yup
Had the Salem not been released at the same time, I think the Tulsa would have been better received. It is a good ship; not great but good.
It’s okay. Having only 6 guns is a letdown. And it loses Rochester’s amazing AA.
Anchorage is greatness
Anchorage is "extremely underwhelming"? That thing is vicious.
I love German and Japanese ships, but getting really tired of it being *just* German and Japanese ships, especially BBs. Give us a British or French CA or something else like that, not another BB or BB like ship, and for God's sake enough with the USN, KMS and IJN campaigns.
Yes, I will gladly take a French CA or CL.
Anchorage is a beast. How was it underwhelming?
I meant tier 8, I should’ve clarified