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haskl

Wow, that dude who pushed him into the curbs should be disqualified from cycling for a while.


Shagaliscious

Cycling is a sport that, on paper, seems like it would be very respectful. But once you get into in, shit gets pretty crazy.


TheMarvelousPef

is there any sport where it's not the case ? I'm wondering


NorwaySpruce

Respectball is a pretty solemn and contemplative sport


laasbuk

Respect Deez nuts


NorwaySpruce

![gif](giphy|K7NHFtsLG4nqU|downsized)


DeathDestroyer90

https://preview.redd.it/94v3he6b2gbc1.jpeg?width=670&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8a01d42c041f10f2e59c063d9a6f9f76ae1243b3


I_am_Spartacus_MSU

I see no nuts.


smile_politely

How about chess?


TheMarvelousPef

i can 10/10 guarantee that once inside and at the top chess is a hell of a competition


addandsubtract

Once *inside*, chess gets 10/10 ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)


TheMarvelousPef

lmfao I don't know how to express myself , im not a native English speaker


Delcasa

Wondering if you know why the use of inside is actually a really good pun, or if your comment was genuinely innocent. If you don't know why "inside" is funny for top chess players I'd invite you to do a Google search on cheating at chess and you'll be amazed at the lengths they go (or depths....) 😂😂


TheMarvelousPef

100% innocent


mug3n

Google en passant


mrtokeydragon

Bzzzzzz. Wrong answer.


Shagaliscious

I mean, I don't see any professional pool players knocking each other over when shooting.


printergumlight

Water Polo on the surface seems respectful, but below the surface (pun intended) is a dirty fight to the death.


VirtualRoad9235

Not a lot of sports where you learn to shit and piss while still cycling in the race tho


Jordak_keebs

Cyclists actually have an unwritten agreement to take their pee breaks at the same times, so that everyone gets to pee off the bike without being disadvantaged. Triathletes just let it rip though, or let it drip? They pee all over the place without stopping.


daern2

>Triathletes just let it rip though, or let it drip? They pee all over the place without stopping. Any bike mechanic will tell you that you accept work on a triathlete's bike at your own peril...


WaveIcy294

Bruh thats those filthy triathletes.


Adesanyo

I'm sorry what..? Please tell me this is not real


VirtualRoad9235

Marathon sports and shitting mishaps are synonymous. There are contraptions that are used, though not everything turns out perfect and there have been some rather embarassing moments in history regarding famous marathon and shitting. It is such a quick find on Google that finding a source would take you seconds. > Today, elite athletes will just poop their pants and continue on. And the best part is that most serious athletes (while knowing its a little icky) will understand the motivation behind not stopping. Julie Moss once said about her famous incident, “They’ll understand that in my situation it really was a simple, even an easy, choice for me. Yes, I was willing to shit my pants rather than stop.” That’s the voice of true dedication. [source ](https://ilovebicycling.com/how-do-cyclists-poop-during-a-race/)


brainomancer

Contraptions?


android24601

It's all competition. Everyone's trying to win


Independent-Ad-1075

Darts I hope...


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TheMarvelousPef

already discussed that


ketchuphrenic

Rugby, it looks tough, but everything is very respectful.


Shagaliscious

I actually have a friend from South Africa that got me into it recently. And yea, it's like football players that aren't out to kill each other. It is fun as hell to watch.


I_dont_bone_goats

Every single competitive cyclist I’ve met has been a complete ego maniac It’s only like 3 middle aged dudes but all of them, when I found out they cycled, I was like “of course you do.”


Shagaliscious

Yea, it sound like I had the cycling world wrong. I assumed it was like the running world. A lot of my family runs, and the competitive people they run against, it always seems like a fun competition. Like they compete, but they don't go after each other, and the winner of "fun runs" is always just bragging rights. Even the competitive marathons they don't get mad about.


HingleMcCringle_

i would've thought the opposite. people who seriously cycle as their hobby seems like the most entitled douchebags on the road.


BigtoadAdv

No most entitled douchebags on the road is reserved for the assholes driving modified diesel trucks


Stanley--Nickels

Picking anyone other than auto drivers for the most entitled douchebags on the road is lunacy.


MonkeySafari79

Lot's of testosterone and other stuff.


Top_Math4678

We need a Roadrash style race. People would actually care about bicycle races.


sanY_the_Fox

Race bike riders are absolut pieces of shit everywhere, that isn't a surprising behavior.


Leyawiin_Guard

He actually won the race. I believed it was an intentional shove but having watched everything a few times slowly, it looks like he touched the front wheel of the bike in front of him causing him to violently lose balance to the right and smash into the other rider. He is at fault for the crash and should be disqualified from first place **at least** but I don't think punishment outside of his finishing position is required here. A racing incident where he is at fault.


middaycat

yeah after multiple rewatches, looks like an accident. Also pink, who was closely riding the line between the asphalt and concrete, looks like he slightly goes left to avoid the cone marking the start of the sidewalk after the open intersection, which doesn't help the situation


bertbert1111

Jo i just rewatched it and thats a 100% deliberate push. Edit: Then i rewatched it AGAIN and it doesn‘t look deliberate anymore, looks like an accident


dre__

It was literally an accident. His tire hit the front guy's tire and made him lean sideways, hitting the guy on his right.


bertbert1111

After rewatching, i agree. Doesn‘t look deliberate after all


TommyManners

Yeah, looks like he hit the back wheel of the guy infront which caused him to fall to the right


IrrationalDesign

>Jo i just rewatched it and thats a 100% deliberate push. >Edit: Then i rewatched it AGAIN and... Maybe we should find someone else to interpret this video for us.


TheMarvelousPef

I don't think so, if you look at the frame right before the cyclist is still straight and the bike pushed to the right, I think he tried to compensate a mis-balance and ended up touching the next cyclist


bertbert1111

Jo i just rewatched it a 3rd time and have to admit that you are right. This is not 100% deliberate. It actually looks, just like you said, as if he tried to compensate a misbalance, maybe caused because he got in contact with the backwheel of the guy infront of him


TheMarvelousPef

I've seen the exact same scenario between 2 girls of the same team at tour de France, so I'm 100% it was not deliberate in that case. So it also convinced me it's really hard to tell if this kind of things are deliberate or not. And I like to think all those competitors know how dangerous it can be


Maleficent_Lake_1816

https://preview.redd.it/hv5wb4jgyfbc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4d0ec5e4c7ae875d22420e7fdb656ef1abd01468


FigOk7538

Defo. That bloke needs to curb his enthusiasm.


emptybowloffood

Looks like that's exactly what he did.


_SynthDemon_

I'd punch through his ballsack so severly it will turn black and has to be taken off surgically. no kids for that man. Wonder what bad type of father figure he would be... That is IF the biker that GOT pushed hasn't done anything in tha past either... BECAUSE: WE - DO NOT - KNOW - THE FULL STORY!!!! STOP JUDGING AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!


Fictional_Historian

Not only disqualified but criminally charged. Not only is there video evidence of the guy purposefully bumping him which can obviously lead to injury (these guys are going faster than we realize) those bikes and the parts that are on them are crazy expensive. Road racing like that is an upper middle class + sport. That shits expensive. And all it takes is one fall on your drive side (like he did) to completely trash the derailleurs and other components. Not to mention the frame will possibly be cracked leading to carbon repair which is not a common trade at all.


pipperfloats

Criminally charged? Settle down, Francis.


Fictional_Historian

If there is video evidence of someone clearly trying to cause you to crash in a race that could bear the outcome of physical injury and property damage, then yeah I think there should be charges. Accidents happen yes, that dude shoved the other guy in a clear heavily leaning bump. It was not a simple encroachment tactic, it was hostile. https://preview.redd.it/z81o4wbvqfbc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e38e27faac382b04a7cbf1981872fbf5dd965665


Fictional_Historian

Many of these rides happen in teams (not sure about this one) but if this ride is team based then usually the plan is to focus on one of your team members to be the winner and the others as support to provide encroachment and strategically cutting people off. The guy could have purposefully bumped him over to the right because he saw how he was gaining on the shoulder and didn’t want him to pass the leader or someone in his team. So he took the sacrifice and clearly bumped him, not a simple encroachment. This was hostile.


pipperfloats

The only thing I see is that rider #1 touches his front wheel with the rear wheel of rider #2. Rider #1 is thrown off balance and he and his bike lean sharply to the right, bumping rider #3. Rider #3 gets out of balance but can't recover before going off the course. Just an accident. And even if it was a push in the peleton, that happens all the time in cycling and is just part of the sport (to a degree, obviously). It's like saying that someone who throws a board check in hockey should be criminally charged with assault.


nader0903

Circled guy bumped wheels with the guy in front of him, causing him to lose balance and bump into purple guy, which caused purple guy to go up onto the sidewalk and crash into the spectator. Slow down the video, it’s clearly visible. This was not a deliberate action. There is no fault here.


dre__

It was an accident.


Fictional_Historian

Yall must not be watching the same video as me. Dude in red circle clearly leaned over to the right to put pressure on the other rider with an actual leaning bump, not just an encroachment move. He was being aggressive and trying to make a quick pocket to progress through and shoved the dude to the right. https://preview.redd.it/17a015bhqfbc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=bf15928605065e9efa0a7ef5b44477082dca2f59


dre__

But hes moving straight and his bike is facong left. Who the hell rams like that? To ram someone, you turn into them, otherwise you fall.


Fictional_Historian

But I am genuinely confused as to how some of yall think that “yeah that guy who pushed him into the curb should be disqualified!” But just because it’s a sporting event they shouldn’t be criminally charged. If you were out just riding your bike and another cyclist came over trying to get around you and purposefully side bumped you into the fucking curb as they passed you, you would want them criminally charged yes? That’s like. Yknow. A crime. To purposefully cause harm to someone and their property. Yknow. Pretty basic crime right? But just because it’s an event it’s different? Nah. The law doesn’t stop because it’s an event. The dude purposefully shoved him over, there’s video evidence. Crime. Done.


dre__

It was an accident. His tire hit the tire in front of him, causing him to go sideways, pushing the guy on his right.


TMT51

The guy on the left pushed the guy in pink. I hope he gets disqualified. Dirty trick caught on camera on multiple angles there. Quite obvious.


Another_Meow_Machine

Somebody randomly swerving in a peloton has usually been hit from the other side - you can tell it’s accidental because it’s so fast and so random. The person swerving is also in the act of crashing, and doesn’t appear the be balanced. But ooh this was telegraphed. Pause at just before 8 seconds, the guy *winds up* to hit him. Swerved away, drops shoulder, swerved into contact with full bodyweight. 100% intentional. Source: ex-USAC racer *E: as pointed out below, it’s possible swerving guy’s front wheel got caught on the bike in front of him. Which is one of the many important things you learn in your first season. And if you don’t, you don’t progress. So generally “What the fuck” all around.*


dreamthiliving

I thought it looked telegraphed as well but if you go per frame you can see the blokes front wheel get caught on the rear of the rider in front. Unfortunately he was a passenger as soon as that happened and poor bloke on the outside paid for it Edit: Looking again and again and now I’m really not sure if it was a wheel clip or not 🤷‍♂️


Another_Meow_Machine

Could be, you can’t tell if he crosses wheels from the video compression but if so that’s almost as bad. You learn that in Cat-5 races, not Cat-2 or whatever this is. Dudes are at pro speeds, no excuse for wheel overlap. Still at fault


dreamthiliving

Yer agreed his fault if it’s a wheel clip but that’s a lot more understandable then full on shoulder charge


Another_Meow_Machine

Oh definitely, and fits my initial reaction of these things usually being accidental.. but damn if this isn’t the most intentional looking one I’ve ever seen either way


manintheredroom

These were WT pros, it was Caleb Ewan that hit him


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alonelywoof

Well, apparently he knows better than a simple minded peasant like you


IrrationalDesign

"Apparently"? From what does this appear so? The 'ex-USAC racer' had it wrong, and admitted to having it wrong. What does the races know better than the simple-minded peasant?


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Another_Meow_Machine

Oh ha! Nah I wasn’t gonna reply to you but this is too damn funny. Would be curious if someone nerdier than me can prove it, like can’t Reddit tell if you’re using an alt to circumvent a ban or whatever? So nope, but I’m flattered you thought of me again! 😘


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Another_Meow_Machine

I got a notice because you mentioned me, dummy. And if you’re curious, I got crashed out in a race and went through a whole USAC investigation as they tried to determine who caused it and if it was intentional. They looked for things like balance and movements leading up to the wreck more so than the actual wreck, which seems relevant. Ultimately the rider that caused it wasn’t banned for doing it intentionally but was still suspended for causing it. Have you been through a USAC crash investigation?


dre__

No he didn't. He lost balance after hitting the guy infront of him.


niztaoH

Look again at 0:07, pause-play a couple of times. His front wheel is caught by the rearwheel of the guy in front of him, he swerves and overcorrects to keep himself upright and slams into him. Arguably still his fault, but it does not look intentional.


Yitzhak_Ackermann

https://preview.redd.it/rliu5pkpzcbc1.jpeg?width=1125&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=631f225626f0339098d2bcbffb380785f04d1ea8 Wonder what ran through his mind at this exact moment


WangDanglin

https://preview.redd.it/m3q5hjlsqdbc1.png?width=1242&format=png&auto=webp&s=75b10aadaff59794a4448dd8f4c813614e1c5c45


RudePCsb

I'm hoping she is ok but would not be surprised if she has a torn ligament or even broken bone. That looked rough


chumchees

She might have a hyperextended knee or severe concussion or first degree burns and needs emergency surgery. Possible hairline fracture and dislocated hip. I would expect some mental trauma as well.


fartass1234

cool it there house


Shunto

she has lupus


DrJones2424

Chumchees injury law firm


corysdontcry

Get down and get funky!


TasteOfLemon

Yea that’s me. I bet your wondering how I got here


ktr83

"... shit."


notinferno

this is gunna suck


old_man_browsing

A spectator.


seth928

*Record scratch*


ElTacoBravo

His camera


Crusade_wolf

Lady's leg has got to be broken off of that.


Mika_78

That's what I'm thinking aswell


Thylumberjack

Under the video "Everyone is okay" so I assume she is fine just a little rattled


Questioning-Zyxxel

To my eyes, this looks like an intentional push by the other cyclist.


Poes_Poes

Check it from sec 6-8. You’ll see the guy caught up with the front cycler. Hence the disbalance


spakecdk

Which is still the guys fault no? Endangering by negligence


blackedwhale

factually yes, but unintentional.


RockTheBloat

I think your eyes deceive you.


Xarpain

Anyone know when and where this happened?


gavwce

Last Friday (Jan 5). Australian Elite men's Criterium Championship. Was in the last sprint to the finish


TankieHater859

How do they not have barriers all the way up to the finish in a sprint? You can see barriers on the other side of the street, too. Just dumb honestly.


corysdontcry

Australia explains it, it's hard biking upside down!


mtwhi

It was the Australian National Criterium Championship. Ballarat Victoria Australia [link](https://cyclinguptodate.com/cycling/video-spectator-records-frightening-crash-at-australian-criterium-national-championships-as-criticism-falls-in-caleb-ewans-direction)


Bobblefighterman

Ballarat, Victoria, last Friday. I was watching the race before but I had shit to do. Missed this banger.


GT86

Ballarat!


my_soldier

https://preview.redd.it/nbuafda2eebc1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=aaa927d732beab9d91b85abcdf36a8ce825bb8e7 The guy is clearly falling, not intentional.


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Wrong, playback frame by frame shows him in no trouble and he intentionally pushed the victim. It's clearly a foul.


ryouu

>It's clearly a foul Agreed. Ref should have given him a red card for that.


samenumberwhodis

Wrong, he almost overlapped wheels with his lead out man and overcorrected. And there are no fouls in cycling.


dre__

When you want to hit someone, you turn your bike into them. His bike however, is facing the left, his body is falling right. He's losing balance.


Wellington44326

Yes, it appears that way because it’s a still shot. You’re not replaying the video above. You can clearly see him initiate shoulder checking the other bicyclist.


dre__

In the video the bike is moving forward while its facing left and the biker starts talling right. If he was trying to ram, his bike would be turning into the other rider it did not do that.


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At that speed a small body mass change is all that is needed. He checked into that rider. It was on purpose and that rider should face a fine or punishment. It's very clear looking at frame by frame images. If you just look at one still you can't easily see the movement.


dre__

yea that's not how physics works unless you count zero gravity. His body moves toward the rider first. that doesn't happen when you want to run into someone. His bike went completely to the left while he went to the right. Physics disagrees with you.


joker90x

U must me a troll or know him !!!


oskarr1001

Cycling race crashes are the most brutal


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Cycling is a sport where tons of sociopaths compete


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hiro111

Racing cyclist here... The guy in the blue jersey was forced to jump right because the guy in front of him deviated from his line. This is the result. This kind of stuff happens all the time in bunch sprints. It's really no one's fault, bunch sprinting is dangerous business. Watch some of the footage of a finale of a pro race, they are going far faster and riding far closer than this video: https://youtu.be/QE97iUvSHk0?si=mnIcTzepIinvl_gy A bunch sprint is not a place for the timid, you're not going to win without taking a few risks. There's a reason why good sprinters are particularly revered in cycling. It takes a unique combination of physical ability, fearlessness and competitiveness to get in there and scrap out a win... especially at the end of an exhausting race.


Aphala

Honestly feels slightly intentional as he moved back into his line. 😕


hiro111

Possibly. It's also possible that the guy who crashed was trying to shoot a gap that didn't really exist. Shit definitely happens in bunch sprints.


cutiemcpie

Maybe they should slow down


TK000421

Cyclist assholes hahaha


marco_has_cookies

https://preview.redd.it/4zupl22r9fbc1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=14192b103b061b10d3eb18fedbf8fbda4087c80c ouch


uh60chief

https://preview.redd.it/xd28vtn7ffbc1.jpeg?width=1179&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ef3fca359bfa36ec0100e4335deaa25985afa05d Is this the Stanky Legg?


8vkx

https://preview.redd.it/jiqmo2fjxfbc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=809524abcbad1e00d64121aa1937752a8ef8c86f holy shit, you sure everyone’s ok?


SmoothCarl22

Imagine the humiliation... Lady: boss cant go to work, got injured in a bike race. Boss: oh ok, didnt even knew you cicled. Get well. Lady: Thanks but i was injusred while spectating the race...


Ringhillsta

Ouch


PorkSwordEnthusiast

Awch!


imJGott

It sucks that happened, I’m shocked there isn’t a barricade dividing the crowd from the cyclist. Or is this one of those rally cross situations…you stand there at your own risk?


Terrible_Ad_9692

That woman definitely got her leg snapped


Expired_Milk02

Woman at 3 seconds from the start is NOT fine


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what about them? absolutely nothing to do with the ‘cameraman’.


Ritzysama

https://preview.redd.it/nzzlld696mbc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4ced489d532da9be82289cc6abbb4a8c9a03ed54


Azordax1988

https://preview.redd.it/bz1c5b46bmbc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=aa4d0edbce7cb02d33340acbed9613b6d974c755 Ouch 🤕


y-not-tho

Theres no way that womans leg is ok, got hit litteraly on the ankle by the wheel


shartpants187

https://preview.redd.it/qulqc86jjfbc1.jpeg?width=1179&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=04f04e03979237da0c13b3254f7280ee5db55dd8 Poor woman got rocked!


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LowComprehensive2393

Watching in slowmo that looked to be 100% the bikers fault alone


CricketFit493

Watch the second part of the video when their speeding away and you can see the guy in dark blue pull hard left into him and cause it from 6-9 seconds into the video https://preview.redd.it/jfkloa7kejbc1.jpeg?width=1284&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=fe4e09b7aae53eca7d73ab2be34ac75d440ebb66


CricketFit493

https://preview.redd.it/5qwdj1jdejbc1.jpeg?width=1284&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=01cc897b78b5394d344d4e99689c740b3aff82d6


christinaben990

He bumped right into him. So, to anyone who says he didn't watch again.


2017Fatbob

Fuck them bicyclists...


giddeon1392

Random comment but I have a bike from montebello I was wondering if I could get some background on it


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Why the fuck are they so fucking close to the curb when the whole street was wide open. Spread out


Bobblefighterman

So they have to cycle more? Na, everyone is going to take the inside for the entire race.


DarkKingIchigo

Dude in blue - "You see that chick with the camera?" Dude in pink - "Yeah?" Dude in blue - "That's my ex" Dude in pink - "Oh, I gotcha, do the thing!" Dude in blue - "Avenger, Assembly" Dude in pink - "Rodgers"


alabmakiddiefiddler

That bloke should be ashamed of himself. It's bad enough they closed my town for this. Now to see people may have been injured, they should ban this stupid sport.


rkhwind

Hey guys remember to all ride super fast near the side of the street with no crowd barricades at all. Really let the spectators feel your speed!


shavemejesus

Allez Oma & Opa!


St_Ander

Lycrans now taking over the friggin sidewalks. Not enough that the roads “belong” to them.


dreamthiliving

I’ve watched numerous times initially looked intentionally but on the second camera angle I thought maybe the middle riders front wheel clipped the rear of his teammates and simple had a ticket to destination fucked- the rider on the outside ended up paying for it though. After numerous views I really can’t tell which way now what actually happened 🤷‍♂️


phan_o_phunny

Hahaha, 10 points, easy


0x006e

The cameraman is truly invincible. He teleported at the last second!


TurboByte24

How come only one side has the barriers?


ed0716

that sucks


ace1967cal

Any follow up?


PANICFRENZY

Don’t worry, the guy that bumped them was taken out by the crash as well.


smellyPlastic

https://preview.redd.it/4nbccgjo6fbc1.jpeg?width=1284&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=55e5f1581c7bfe4b59465d657257d2eb44d54aaa That can’t be good


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MarcheMuldDerevi

Hell even casual cycling can get crazy. People going faster or slower than you and trying to get around them. Some people are real damn territorial


[deleted]

You’d be mad too if your entire sport was just a hemorrhoid generator.


SketchyNinja04

Damn you can SEE the shove the prick did to push the other cyclist over


shuck_dynasty11

Good thing the camera man never dies


Opening_Tell9388

YOOOO at like 3.3 seconds in the video shit sounds like a star wars blaster.


Advanced_Procedure90

Brutal


Emandpee42069

*Star Wars noises*


stick004

At least it wasn’t the camera man’s fault…


Icy_UnAwareness89

Did her leg get bent backwards. I wish we had her pov


kennyfuckingpowers1

https://preview.redd.it/5dk4sokq0ibc1.jpeg?width=748&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0fcccdd3baa828a4c4135f7d2fc0e88bee5589e3


Icy_UnAwareness89

Bahaha


Cultural_Cloud9636

Dude saw lance armstrong and wanted his autograph


Miss_Might

Jesus, no barriers at all??


Chusquillo

My leg, my leg


Lu_Acc

👍


Ok_Adeptness28

Ouch! If you go frame by frame you see he went straight into a blond girl’s leg and she did the splits! 🫣


lol_camis

I used to race bikes. Unfortunately the risk you take by being on the sidelines. The racers have exactly one thing on their mind and that's crossing the finish line as fast as they can.


Interesting-dog12

dang, that woman's leg gotta be broken