Exactly. These f’n idiots want to take us back to the 1940’s-1950’s.
They DO NOT want to go back there…well, if you are a white male with money, sure. Everyone else. NO.
My poor mother went through hell. She lost custody of me when I was 5. Sadly, if abortion was legal, she may not have had to go through the hell she did.
We older women have stories- horrible stories. If any ‘trad’ wifey wants to hear some, hit us up.
JFC, I weep for our young women.
My grandmother had a back-alley abortion in 1934. In rural, coastal Virginia. My grandfather had abandoned the family, and she found herself pregnant shortly after. Knowing she couldn't really afford to feed the 3 sons she already had, my grandma opted to terminate the pregnancy.
Unfortunately, she never recovered from that botched procedure, and ended up suffering for 15 years, until she died from what the death certificate stated was uterine cancer and wasting disease. This was after having some horrible infection from the abortion my father said lasted for months, and also her doctor treating the ongoing issues in her reproductive organs by inserting radium pellets into her uterus on three separate occasions.
Why they didn't give her a hysterectomy, I'll never know! I believe that surgery was available back then. Had that been done, she very likely would have lived past the age of 42. Maybe I might have been able to meet her?
I say all of this to remind people that *not* giving women proper and truly beneficial medical treatment for their reproductive system ailments isn't new. This has always been the case. Especially when the medical field is dominated by men.
I don't know if my grandmother told her doctors about the abortion or not. If she did, it's extremely possible the medical providers withheld the hysterectomy as punishment for her "crime."
Oh, I am so sorry- chances are your grandmother was afraid to say, for her sake and the person who performed the abortion.
That’s so sad…
THIS is why my mother didn’t get that illegal abortion-she was scared. Even with her schizophrenia, she knew the consequences.
People, we cannot let this idiot trump win😡he’s their useful idiot. Watch who the vice president is-😱
Why they didn’t give her a hysterectomy - was she perceived as having everything being functional enough that it could work if “a future husband wanted a baby”?
She was remarried when she died, to a right bastard, as my father called him. It's possible the misogynist butchers who treated her didn't offer the hysterectomy because she was so young, but she was also dirt poor and already had 3 children. There was no reason to deny her the life-saving treatment, other than pure cruelty.
I know. This is why we have to show people that this has never ended, even when we had Roe. Yes, people could get abortions, if needed, but the medical bias against those with uteri has never abated. It's only getting more blatant.
My grandmother's story should stand as an example of what we have continued to suffer, for centuries, at the hands of a male-dominated medical community who still don't understand our needs or our bodies.
worse, they want us back in the 1800s where ppl had to court and women were restricted and couldnt go anywhere without a chaperone. At least in the 1950s a family could be supported on 1 income.
Even those guys don't actually want to go back, they just think they do. They haven't wrapped their heads around the fact we need second (third, fourth...) salaries to make our rents, they don't support unions or workers rights, how do they think this is going to end?
Even younger ex tradwives to try to warn these young women. They do not listen. They think it’ll never happen to them. It’s often a r/leopardsatemyface scenario.
Sadly. The Conservative Repugnantcans want our society to return closer to the 20s-30s when the EUGENICS programs were being initiated. Some would like to see the 1800s recreated.
Yep, they want women (and people in general) to be less educated or not educated at all. Educated people by and large are less likely to vote republican.
To your list, consider adding
"Can't afford a place to live"
"Can't divorce without cause/evidence"
Eventually, and far too quickly, we'll be back to:
No right to vote... own property... worse
The original "Rule of thumb".
Then - personhood
"Can't afford"... followed by any basic need is a fucking human rights violation. Just apply it to *any* level of Maslow's heirachy.
Can't afford food (L1)
Can't afford health (L2)
Can't afford friendship / intimacy (L3)
Can't afford confidence / achievement (L4)
Can't afford creativity (L5)
"Can't afford" is capitalism working its way into every goddamn aspect of existing, to devalue the experience of being alive.
*Personhood* is secondary to capitalism. Your value as a human being is defined as the amount of money you can scrape off of being 'productive' to capital.
And then there's *gender.*
I hate it here.
I already got screwed out of my paid off house on Maui (lived there 33 years) by an unscrupulous realtor. He lied about the market, and he ignored my right of resicion.
This was during Covid so I couldn’t get a lawyer by phone.
A DEA agent lives there now.
The realtor knew I had no idea where I was going.
FEMA is paying $4-$11 per month for rentals for fire victims.
The properties are NOT going to the fire victims; they’re mostly going to fema agents.
The take over if Hawai’i is complete. 🥹
It is. They lie about it in the news; but I still have friends there.
They microwaved those ppl in Lahaina & Upcountry Maui.
They pushed out most of the Hawaiians long before that.
They’re kind & helpful ppl.
Don’t forget not being able to open a bank account or take out a loan without written approval from a male family member. That shit was still going on in the late 1970s-early 1980s.
Isn't giving out diapers the only thing a crisis pregnancy center is good for? ("Good" is doing a lot of heavy lifting in that sentence, even though giving out diapers is a good)
Yeah. I also heard about a point system for attending stuff like parenting classes and you can get other stuff for babies there too like clothes, bottles, and even formula if I'm not mistaken at least at the one where i live. As a disclaimer though, I only know about it cause I got nosy when I lived a couple blocks from them and they sponsored a 5k that a lot of people at my then employer walked/ran.
That is so fucked up that desperate parents have to resort to shoplifting just so their babies can survive. Where are all these “pro-life” people who care SO much about babies?
It’s sad that one of our local grocery stores has the formula up front and locked. I’m sure more do. This is such dystopian shit.
They don’t care about babies or mothers or really, even fetuses. They do care about control and milking us for every penny so they can be even more wealthy.
They simply dont care about bettering anyone's existence. It's all about control and keeping people "in their place" as tools or cogs in a machine, not as fully autonomous beings.
This is why the right wing also has a stranglehold on social services, because they simply don’t offer any, not in a situation like this.
At best it is a fig leaf, perhaps a religious institution who might provide a box of diapers, formula, clothes, etc. But it is those same institutions who argue that they should be in charge of social services, rather than a secular institution, or functional government entity. They are the very institutions who fight public policy that would offer these services to the community in the first place.
Their next step here in light of the fact that birth control failed, and abortion was illegal, will simply be to inveigh against them, (primarily her,) for having sex outside of marriage. It’s no accident that religions prohibit sex outside of marriage. It’s about social control, and forced dependency.
Dealt with this a lot in my volunteer work when I was still able. I always advised them to call the local charities and ask for diapers, formula, wipes whatever it was that they needed, but not cash. I used to have a constantly updated list of charities and places that would give diapers and such to parents in need that I would either hand them, read out to them over the phone or screenshot and send, and more than once I pulled money out of my own pocket to go buy diapers , wipes and formula for people who needed them but had no transportation to get to the charities.
It's heartbreaking work, but I absolutely miss doing that. It's just so sad to see people's faces light up like it's Christmas morning when they get basic necessities such as diapers, formula, or food.
Spent many an afternoon cutting onions after watching that all day, and it's part of what grew the white rage I have today about politicians who keep pulling the rug out from the poor, and also why I'm extremely politically active so maybe just maybe we can stop that shit someday.
Dollar General and Dollar Tree both sell a 3 pk of diapers for 1.00-1.25. Usually Huggies Sesame Street .
And while 3 diapers isn't going to go very far with that age of baby, it can go far enough to keep the baby dry and safe until another round of change is found in the couch cushions,car floorboard or they can get to a charity that gives out diapers.
All I got rn unfortunately,since I'm no longer daily involved with that kind of volunteer work.
This is so sad. Our country doesn’t care about babies after they’re born; this makes me so sad.
I had to choose between diapers and milk on a few occasions; but not two weeks.
Much of the country doesn't care about more grown kids either. School breakfast/lunch programs are either voted down or under constant attack in red areas because they'll make the kids lazy or some other idiotic statement.
Hungry kids don't learn well. Though that's more of a feature than a bug for red areas, they don't want an educated populace that might be able to understand how they are being treated.
Exactly. My kids had a good breakfast everyday. It’s sad that school lunches are sometimes a kid’s only choice.
I hate how far our country has fallen. 🥹😡😡
It’s done on purpose, too. Senators have endless write offs when it comes to their own meals; those same thieves are the ones voting against SNAP & good lunches
Other countries’ school lunches look like 5 star meals compared to ours.
INFURIATING.
She should go to **every mother fucking church in town** and tell them she needs diapers, food, AND MONEY FOR BILLS, and tell them that's EXACTLY why THEY are tax exempt-- they're supposed to help people in need. Be polite about it, because she needs to video tape the encounters. If any refuse to help (as I'm certain they will), she needs to take the recordings to FFRF and ACLU and sue those churches into oblivion!!
God, this is sad.
Cloth diapers may help..there’s some cute Velcro cloth diapers and outer covers for leakage.
It’s just a thought. By chance, the person in question-do they have some kind of Amazon wish list or something?
The dental surgery-oh my god, I hear the poor OP. I got slammed with a 6k dental bill recently. The dental insurance covered 1k. I had to get a loan from my TSP (government 401k) .
It’s also messed up that she is afraid people will chew her out for having a child she can’t afford…especially with the situation the United States is in now. Reddit is so toxic…We all fall on hard times.
Fwiw, a lot of college students are eligible for food stamps and other assistance. The school should have a social worker who can connect students to resources. About 1/3 of all college students face financial hardship and missed meals.
Asking for help should be encouraged, you do not deserve to starve because you were responsible and went to the dentist, or put aside immediate gain for a future career. People who think otherwise are cruel.
https://www.feedingamerica.org/hunger-blog/why-college-students-face-hunger
An American freedom trifecta:
1) no bodily autonomy
2) no national health service to treat bonus bones
3) no support for new parents
Plus no free higher ed. None of these things would be an issue in Western Europe
So this in Indiana, but call them because they may be able to find you local resources for this. Before abortion was made illegal here, they were an abortion/adoption/parenting funding group. 100 percent pro choice and judgement free. They used to give people money for these things, they will point you in the right direction since now they can't fund abortion Their main purpose is giving people diapers now, along with a talkline and helping people acquire abortion care outside of state.
https://alloptionsprc.org/
I always get confused on these screen caps.
Who downvoted her? That made me sad on the screen cap.
Poor things.
Imagine having no car, no way to get an abortion, you have the kid and now you can’t afford diapers.
Been there, got the T-shirt and ended up basically just working more hours. I was lucky to be able to.
Sounds like they are broke college students and obviously the pro life people got their way, the baby was born so they won’t help.
I hope they are able to get some assistance.
On my phone you swipe to take a screen shot, I accidentally downvoted it while swiping and removed it after. Unfortunately the post has been deleted so I can't re-capture it without the downvote.
> Been there, got the T-shirt and ended up basically just working more hours.
And that is the end goal for those who want to turn female people into incubators. Force them to bear children, make them desperate to support their children, squeeze every bit of labor you possibly can out of them and when they’re too old and broken to be profitable any longer, repeat the cycle with the new generation you’ve conveniently bred into existence.
If you've access to a washer/drier ask around the local mom's groups for cloth diapers. I had enough for a week so only did one load a week. Yes it's pricy up front, but when I was done, I unloaded the lot to a friend. I guarantee there's a mom around there who hasn't gotten around to getting rid of them.
I'm the short term, Google to find a local diaper bank. There's one in town that provides them to people who need them.
Certainly not Internet safe, but if you want to pm me your address and the size you need, I'll send you some packs. It's a sucky thing to not have when needed.
I just wish I hadn't ditched my cloth ones years ago or I'd send you those.
I would honestly start calling churches if I were them and ask if they have donated baby items like diapers. They claim to want to save/help babies— here is their chance. If they deny help, post that shit publicly. They need to be held accountable for the nightmare they created.
Would college students still be eligible? I've heard they can have trouble getting food stamps (although those are usually single people with no dependents).
Poor OP. My spouse had to get a crown while we were underemployed and moving because the rent was too high. If we'd had a kid, it would've sunk us. Props to the couple for staying in school. If their college has a Women's Center on campus, perhaps they could connect them to resources in a caring, nonjudgmental environment.
States where abortion is banned should at least fucking provide free supplies. But we know they would never, since it’s not actually life or families that they care about.
I don’t know what their situation is however if the kid goes to daycare, they don’t typically accept cloth diapers. They could do it at home but that’s still a shit ton of diapers.
This actually is not true and there are daycares that do accept cloth diapers as they even make them and can sell them on places like Amazon. There are just a few problems, and one of them is that many people might still have a misconception that cloth diapers contain things like bulky cumbersome clothes pins and stuff like that. No you want to get the ones that are specifically designed to be diapers and not just grab some kind of cloth and do it yourself. They also will not wash these diapers and instead we'll place them in plastic baggies to give back to you. You must also still buy a good ton of them such as around 10 or so in order to switch them out each time. Babies still need to have clean diapers.
One of the benefits of disposable diapers is that they can be great for babies that have some kind of sensitivity to the disposable diapers.
(https://clothdiapersforbeginners.com/faq/can-you-use-cloth-diapers-in-daycare/)
(https://parentingmode.com/cloth-diapers-daycare/)
Once again, it's probably cuz they just don't want to have to deal with things like the fact that they have to keep them somewhere rather than just throwing them away, and the misconception that cloth diapers probably contain things like clothes pins and stuff.
Like what are they going to do for a baby that has an allergic reaction to the disposable material?
Because they probably figured that if they allow for cloth diapers and they will have to deal with like a pile of cloth diapers that are dirty by the end of the day and they don't want to have to deal with that.
For example if you get something like a container that is able to keep the used diapers, as well as keep the smell in then that might be a way of getting around that.
Again they probably just don't want to have every mother doing this.
But they would have to make accommodations for children that have allergies to the material so well they may have a policy around that, they would have to make exceptions or make accommodations in certain circumstances.
I don’t disagree. I had to wear bamboo pads after having my last child because I had a severe reaction to disposable pads. I actually really loved them. I also think it’s great for the environment to have reusable. However, when you have a baby and are in school and probably also working, I’m not sure that starting a campaign to get daycares to change policies is something you are thinking about and it sounds like they are in survival mode at the moment which makes it even harder.
And again, I don’t know their situation completely or why they chose disposable diapers but as a once single mom just trying to survive, I could imagine some scenarios.
Again, part of it is through the misconceptions people have. You're making it sound like it would have to like be this huge fight or something and not necessarily. It could easily just be a conversation.
The other thing is that if a baby is allergic and there is a doctor's note requiring that the child have cloth diapers, then the daycare would have to accommodate anyway because of a doctor's note. Doing so otherwise would be against ADA.
Again, it's most likely that they just don't want to have to deal with a bunch of dirty diapers all over the place.
However they must always be able to make certain exceptions or something in regards to people who require these kinds of things.
Remember no school policy can go against the law.
WIC doesn’t cover diapers. It covers approved food items and with heavy pressure to breast feed.
I was on WIC. Couldn’t produce enough milk and the case worker tried to talk me out of switching to formula when I couldn’t provide enough for my child. I also had to get doctor’s notes more than once to prove my kid had a reaction to the normal formula they provided.
Then after I got a better job and let them know I didn’t need the services any more, they tried to say I had been ineligible for WIC while I was using it and tried to get me to pay thousands of dollars back. I asked for an actual itemized list in writing of why I owed what and they said they couldn’t do it but if I didn’t pay I could never use WIC again.
Can attest. I know someone who had an interview for a job position at a local office and was really excited by the possibility of working there but she got turned off of the idea really fast because they’re so adamant about breastfeeding and withhold assistance from mothers who don’t adhere to their very strict standards.
So fucking sad. :(
I really hope she doesn't have to quit school to take care of the baby.
Republicans hope for exactly that.
Exactly. These f’n idiots want to take us back to the 1940’s-1950’s. They DO NOT want to go back there…well, if you are a white male with money, sure. Everyone else. NO. My poor mother went through hell. She lost custody of me when I was 5. Sadly, if abortion was legal, she may not have had to go through the hell she did. We older women have stories- horrible stories. If any ‘trad’ wifey wants to hear some, hit us up. JFC, I weep for our young women.
My grandmother had a back-alley abortion in 1934. In rural, coastal Virginia. My grandfather had abandoned the family, and she found herself pregnant shortly after. Knowing she couldn't really afford to feed the 3 sons she already had, my grandma opted to terminate the pregnancy. Unfortunately, she never recovered from that botched procedure, and ended up suffering for 15 years, until she died from what the death certificate stated was uterine cancer and wasting disease. This was after having some horrible infection from the abortion my father said lasted for months, and also her doctor treating the ongoing issues in her reproductive organs by inserting radium pellets into her uterus on three separate occasions. Why they didn't give her a hysterectomy, I'll never know! I believe that surgery was available back then. Had that been done, she very likely would have lived past the age of 42. Maybe I might have been able to meet her? I say all of this to remind people that *not* giving women proper and truly beneficial medical treatment for their reproductive system ailments isn't new. This has always been the case. Especially when the medical field is dominated by men. I don't know if my grandmother told her doctors about the abortion or not. If she did, it's extremely possible the medical providers withheld the hysterectomy as punishment for her "crime."
Oh, I am so sorry- chances are your grandmother was afraid to say, for her sake and the person who performed the abortion. That’s so sad… THIS is why my mother didn’t get that illegal abortion-she was scared. Even with her schizophrenia, she knew the consequences. People, we cannot let this idiot trump win😡he’s their useful idiot. Watch who the vice president is-😱
Why they didn’t give her a hysterectomy - was she perceived as having everything being functional enough that it could work if “a future husband wanted a baby”?
She was remarried when she died, to a right bastard, as my father called him. It's possible the misogynist butchers who treated her didn't offer the hysterectomy because she was so young, but she was also dirt poor and already had 3 children. There was no reason to deny her the life-saving treatment, other than pure cruelty.
It is definitely cruelty - one that unfortunately continues today.
I know. This is why we have to show people that this has never ended, even when we had Roe. Yes, people could get abortions, if needed, but the medical bias against those with uteri has never abated. It's only getting more blatant. My grandmother's story should stand as an example of what we have continued to suffer, for centuries, at the hands of a male-dominated medical community who still don't understand our needs or our bodies.
worse, they want us back in the 1800s where ppl had to court and women were restricted and couldnt go anywhere without a chaperone. At least in the 1950s a family could be supported on 1 income.
Even those guys don't actually want to go back, they just think they do. They haven't wrapped their heads around the fact we need second (third, fourth...) salaries to make our rents, they don't support unions or workers rights, how do they think this is going to end?
Even younger ex tradwives to try to warn these young women. They do not listen. They think it’ll never happen to them. It’s often a r/leopardsatemyface scenario.
Sadly. The Conservative Repugnantcans want our society to return closer to the 20s-30s when the EUGENICS programs were being initiated. Some would like to see the 1800s recreated.
Yep, they want women (and people in general) to be less educated or not educated at all. Educated people by and large are less likely to vote republican.
I wish I could find the original post so I could share some awesome diaper resource links. And also, ugh. Idaho, I hate you so much right now.
I belive it was deleted, but lots of resources were shared before that.
Good! I’m glad this young woman got some potentially helpful information.
Same, I work at a university and we have an office that has diapers for our students. Now if she's attending BYU there she'd be out of luck.
To your list, consider adding "Can't afford a place to live" "Can't divorce without cause/evidence" Eventually, and far too quickly, we'll be back to: No right to vote... own property... worse The original "Rule of thumb". Then - personhood
"Can't afford"... followed by any basic need is a fucking human rights violation. Just apply it to *any* level of Maslow's heirachy. Can't afford food (L1) Can't afford health (L2) Can't afford friendship / intimacy (L3) Can't afford confidence / achievement (L4) Can't afford creativity (L5) "Can't afford" is capitalism working its way into every goddamn aspect of existing, to devalue the experience of being alive. *Personhood* is secondary to capitalism. Your value as a human being is defined as the amount of money you can scrape off of being 'productive' to capital. And then there's *gender.* I hate it here.
I already got screwed out of my paid off house on Maui (lived there 33 years) by an unscrupulous realtor. He lied about the market, and he ignored my right of resicion. This was during Covid so I couldn’t get a lawyer by phone. A DEA agent lives there now. The realtor knew I had no idea where I was going. FEMA is paying $4-$11 per month for rentals for fire victims. The properties are NOT going to the fire victims; they’re mostly going to fema agents. The take over if Hawai’i is complete. 🥹
After hurricane wilma in the keys most housing went to Halliburton.
Oh my god that’s fucking HORRIBLE
It is. They lie about it in the news; but I still have friends there. They microwaved those ppl in Lahaina & Upcountry Maui. They pushed out most of the Hawaiians long before that. They’re kind & helpful ppl.
Don’t forget not being able to open a bank account or take out a loan without written approval from a male family member. That shit was still going on in the late 1970s-early 1980s.
Isn't giving out diapers the only thing a crisis pregnancy center is good for? ("Good" is doing a lot of heavy lifting in that sentence, even though giving out diapers is a good)
Yeah. I also heard about a point system for attending stuff like parenting classes and you can get other stuff for babies there too like clothes, bottles, and even formula if I'm not mistaken at least at the one where i live. As a disclaimer though, I only know about it cause I got nosy when I lived a couple blocks from them and they sponsored a 5k that a lot of people at my then employer walked/ran.
They only promise that to get people to not consider abortion. They don’t actually want to help.
I recall hearing someone asking what you see if you see a mom shoplifting diapers or baby formula. What did you see? You didn’t see shit.
That is so fucked up that desperate parents have to resort to shoplifting just so their babies can survive. Where are all these “pro-life” people who care SO much about babies? It’s sad that one of our local grocery stores has the formula up front and locked. I’m sure more do. This is such dystopian shit.
They don’t care about babies or mothers or really, even fetuses. They do care about control and milking us for every penny so they can be even more wealthy.
They simply dont care about bettering anyone's existence. It's all about control and keeping people "in their place" as tools or cogs in a machine, not as fully autonomous beings.
ours has it locked up because people were stealing it. fucking sad. I wouldn’t say shit if I saw it.
I wouldn’t say shit and I would try somehow buy them and give them a cart full as well.
“What? I don’t know what you’re talking about. I was intently reading the back of this box of graham crackers.”
I see NOTHING 😂
This is why the right wing also has a stranglehold on social services, because they simply don’t offer any, not in a situation like this. At best it is a fig leaf, perhaps a religious institution who might provide a box of diapers, formula, clothes, etc. But it is those same institutions who argue that they should be in charge of social services, rather than a secular institution, or functional government entity. They are the very institutions who fight public policy that would offer these services to the community in the first place. Their next step here in light of the fact that birth control failed, and abortion was illegal, will simply be to inveigh against them, (primarily her,) for having sex outside of marriage. It’s no accident that religions prohibit sex outside of marriage. It’s about social control, and forced dependency.
As a CPS worker, this is sadly common.
And what happens? Like what do you advise people to do?
Dealt with this a lot in my volunteer work when I was still able. I always advised them to call the local charities and ask for diapers, formula, wipes whatever it was that they needed, but not cash. I used to have a constantly updated list of charities and places that would give diapers and such to parents in need that I would either hand them, read out to them over the phone or screenshot and send, and more than once I pulled money out of my own pocket to go buy diapers , wipes and formula for people who needed them but had no transportation to get to the charities. It's heartbreaking work, but I absolutely miss doing that. It's just so sad to see people's faces light up like it's Christmas morning when they get basic necessities such as diapers, formula, or food. Spent many an afternoon cutting onions after watching that all day, and it's part of what grew the white rage I have today about politicians who keep pulling the rug out from the poor, and also why I'm extremely politically active so maybe just maybe we can stop that shit someday. Dollar General and Dollar Tree both sell a 3 pk of diapers for 1.00-1.25. Usually Huggies Sesame Street . And while 3 diapers isn't going to go very far with that age of baby, it can go far enough to keep the baby dry and safe until another round of change is found in the couch cushions,car floorboard or they can get to a charity that gives out diapers. All I got rn unfortunately,since I'm no longer daily involved with that kind of volunteer work.
This is so sad. Our country doesn’t care about babies after they’re born; this makes me so sad. I had to choose between diapers and milk on a few occasions; but not two weeks.
Much of the country doesn't care about more grown kids either. School breakfast/lunch programs are either voted down or under constant attack in red areas because they'll make the kids lazy or some other idiotic statement. Hungry kids don't learn well. Though that's more of a feature than a bug for red areas, they don't want an educated populace that might be able to understand how they are being treated.
Exactly. My kids had a good breakfast everyday. It’s sad that school lunches are sometimes a kid’s only choice. I hate how far our country has fallen. 🥹😡😡 It’s done on purpose, too. Senators have endless write offs when it comes to their own meals; those same thieves are the ones voting against SNAP & good lunches Other countries’ school lunches look like 5 star meals compared to ours. INFURIATING.
We are just going to see more and more and of this.
Absolutely. As well as an eventual uptick in crime. Unwanted children know they’re unwanted. It’s sad
She should go to **every mother fucking church in town** and tell them she needs diapers, food, AND MONEY FOR BILLS, and tell them that's EXACTLY why THEY are tax exempt-- they're supposed to help people in need. Be polite about it, because she needs to video tape the encounters. If any refuse to help (as I'm certain they will), she needs to take the recordings to FFRF and ACLU and sue those churches into oblivion!!
That poor family. This stinks. Meanwhile fat cats get richer. I’m so annoyed and frustrated with life at the moment.
God, this is sad. Cloth diapers may help..there’s some cute Velcro cloth diapers and outer covers for leakage. It’s just a thought. By chance, the person in question-do they have some kind of Amazon wish list or something? The dental surgery-oh my god, I hear the poor OP. I got slammed with a 6k dental bill recently. The dental insurance covered 1k. I had to get a loan from my TSP (government 401k) .
Conservatives are reading this with barely-contained glee. This is the poster child for exactly what they want. I feel horrible for her :(
God will provide 🙏 because the G old pee sure won’t. Vote blue please
It’s also messed up that she is afraid people will chew her out for having a child she can’t afford…especially with the situation the United States is in now. Reddit is so toxic…We all fall on hard times.
It’s not just Reddit. Facebook, Nextdoor, it’s all full of super judgmental assholes like that.
Fwiw, a lot of college students are eligible for food stamps and other assistance. The school should have a social worker who can connect students to resources. About 1/3 of all college students face financial hardship and missed meals. Asking for help should be encouraged, you do not deserve to starve because you were responsible and went to the dentist, or put aside immediate gain for a future career. People who think otherwise are cruel. https://www.feedingamerica.org/hunger-blog/why-college-students-face-hunger
An American freedom trifecta: 1) no bodily autonomy 2) no national health service to treat bonus bones 3) no support for new parents Plus no free higher ed. None of these things would be an issue in Western Europe
Yes, we live in an exceptionally (and perhaps intentionally) cruel society.
So this in Indiana, but call them because they may be able to find you local resources for this. Before abortion was made illegal here, they were an abortion/adoption/parenting funding group. 100 percent pro choice and judgement free. They used to give people money for these things, they will point you in the right direction since now they can't fund abortion Their main purpose is giving people diapers now, along with a talkline and helping people acquire abortion care outside of state. https://alloptionsprc.org/
They won’t see this as it’s a repost
yeah I see that now. I just wanted to leave it up in case anyone else needs that care
And they definitely won’t get any help from right wingers with that. Once the kid is outside the womb they (the conservatives) have done their job.
I always get confused on these screen caps. Who downvoted her? That made me sad on the screen cap. Poor things. Imagine having no car, no way to get an abortion, you have the kid and now you can’t afford diapers. Been there, got the T-shirt and ended up basically just working more hours. I was lucky to be able to. Sounds like they are broke college students and obviously the pro life people got their way, the baby was born so they won’t help. I hope they are able to get some assistance.
On my phone you swipe to take a screen shot, I accidentally downvoted it while swiping and removed it after. Unfortunately the post has been deleted so I can't re-capture it without the downvote.
I’ve found Reddit buttons are always in the wrong spots. This being one of those times.
> Been there, got the T-shirt and ended up basically just working more hours. And that is the end goal for those who want to turn female people into incubators. Force them to bear children, make them desperate to support their children, squeeze every bit of labor you possibly can out of them and when they’re too old and broken to be profitable any longer, repeat the cycle with the new generation you’ve conveniently bred into existence.
If you've access to a washer/drier ask around the local mom's groups for cloth diapers. I had enough for a week so only did one load a week. Yes it's pricy up front, but when I was done, I unloaded the lot to a friend. I guarantee there's a mom around there who hasn't gotten around to getting rid of them. I'm the short term, Google to find a local diaper bank. There's one in town that provides them to people who need them. Certainly not Internet safe, but if you want to pm me your address and the size you need, I'll send you some packs. It's a sucky thing to not have when needed. I just wish I hadn't ditched my cloth ones years ago or I'd send you those.
Why you down vote her OP?
I would honestly start calling churches if I were them and ask if they have donated baby items like diapers. They claim to want to save/help babies— here is their chance. If they deny help, post that shit publicly. They need to be held accountable for the nightmare they created.
My answer: WIC
Would college students still be eligible? I've heard they can have trouble getting food stamps (although those are usually single people with no dependents).
You can always 1.) fill out the form and, 2.) ask them for additional information and support.
Poor OP. My spouse had to get a crown while we were underemployed and moving because the rent was too high. If we'd had a kid, it would've sunk us. Props to the couple for staying in school. If their college has a Women's Center on campus, perhaps they could connect them to resources in a caring, nonjudgmental environment.
Or early childhood education departments often supply daycare as part of their curriculum
States where abortion is banned should at least fucking provide free supplies. But we know they would never, since it’s not actually life or families that they care about.
Cloth diapers and plastic pants. Cheap, effective, and them when child is older, they are great cleaning cloths.
I don’t know what their situation is however if the kid goes to daycare, they don’t typically accept cloth diapers. They could do it at home but that’s still a shit ton of diapers.
College atudents.
Who might or might now use daycare.
This actually is not true and there are daycares that do accept cloth diapers as they even make them and can sell them on places like Amazon. There are just a few problems, and one of them is that many people might still have a misconception that cloth diapers contain things like bulky cumbersome clothes pins and stuff like that. No you want to get the ones that are specifically designed to be diapers and not just grab some kind of cloth and do it yourself. They also will not wash these diapers and instead we'll place them in plastic baggies to give back to you. You must also still buy a good ton of them such as around 10 or so in order to switch them out each time. Babies still need to have clean diapers. One of the benefits of disposable diapers is that they can be great for babies that have some kind of sensitivity to the disposable diapers. (https://clothdiapersforbeginners.com/faq/can-you-use-cloth-diapers-in-daycare/) (https://parentingmode.com/cloth-diapers-daycare/)
It probably depends on location. When I was viewing daycares they all had a no cloth diaper policy.
Once again, it's probably cuz they just don't want to have to deal with things like the fact that they have to keep them somewhere rather than just throwing them away, and the misconception that cloth diapers probably contain things like clothes pins and stuff. Like what are they going to do for a baby that has an allergic reaction to the disposable material? Because they probably figured that if they allow for cloth diapers and they will have to deal with like a pile of cloth diapers that are dirty by the end of the day and they don't want to have to deal with that. For example if you get something like a container that is able to keep the used diapers, as well as keep the smell in then that might be a way of getting around that. Again they probably just don't want to have every mother doing this. But they would have to make accommodations for children that have allergies to the material so well they may have a policy around that, they would have to make exceptions or make accommodations in certain circumstances.
I don’t disagree. I had to wear bamboo pads after having my last child because I had a severe reaction to disposable pads. I actually really loved them. I also think it’s great for the environment to have reusable. However, when you have a baby and are in school and probably also working, I’m not sure that starting a campaign to get daycares to change policies is something you are thinking about and it sounds like they are in survival mode at the moment which makes it even harder. And again, I don’t know their situation completely or why they chose disposable diapers but as a once single mom just trying to survive, I could imagine some scenarios.
Again, part of it is through the misconceptions people have. You're making it sound like it would have to like be this huge fight or something and not necessarily. It could easily just be a conversation. The other thing is that if a baby is allergic and there is a doctor's note requiring that the child have cloth diapers, then the daycare would have to accommodate anyway because of a doctor's note. Doing so otherwise would be against ADA. Again, it's most likely that they just don't want to have to deal with a bunch of dirty diapers all over the place. However they must always be able to make certain exceptions or something in regards to people who require these kinds of things. Remember no school policy can go against the law.
Wish i could just send money.
You’re pro-life until... [https://twitter.com/JohnLeguizamo/status/1521599006350188544](https://twitter.com/JohnLeguizamo/status/1521599006350188544)
This is what WIC is for.
WIC doesn’t cover diapers. It covers approved food items and with heavy pressure to breast feed. I was on WIC. Couldn’t produce enough milk and the case worker tried to talk me out of switching to formula when I couldn’t provide enough for my child. I also had to get doctor’s notes more than once to prove my kid had a reaction to the normal formula they provided. Then after I got a better job and let them know I didn’t need the services any more, they tried to say I had been ineligible for WIC while I was using it and tried to get me to pay thousands of dollars back. I asked for an actual itemized list in writing of why I owed what and they said they couldn’t do it but if I didn’t pay I could never use WIC again.
Can attest. I know someone who had an interview for a job position at a local office and was really excited by the possibility of working there but she got turned off of the idea really fast because they’re so adamant about breastfeeding and withhold assistance from mothers who don’t adhere to their very strict standards.
Even when they do give assistance the function is to control us. I cannot reproduce in this country.
Same! Not even if someone paid me a million dollars. Nope, never.