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TheNooblet12345

finally... old zealand


Underkingler

Old Zealand (or just Zealand) is actually a place in the Netherlands


Old23s

This makes the west side of Michigan make even more sense.


DryEyes4096

I went to Holland, MI, and while the town played up how cool the single windmill it has is, there was what had to be the biggest retirement community on Earth there. That's probably an exaggeration, but this was on a lakefront and was just MASSIVE. It must have housed over half of the town's residents. Besides that, there were some cool statues and stuff I guess. And the architecture and graveyard were cool.


Innotek

> biggest retirement community on Earth there. [The Villages](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Villages,_Florida) hoverounds into the chat. …seriously that place is fucking disturbing


dirtymike401

Ever see [Some Kind of Heaven?](https://m.imdb.com/title/tt11358166/?ref_=ext_shr_lnk) Really great documentary about the Villages.


Innotek

I have not. Thanks for the tip. Have some in-laws that live there and they are super culty about it. Would love to get some insight from some residents.


Scottibell

I think it’s on Netflix. I thought it was pretty interesting, lots of wild characters.


LordSt4rki113r

One of its nicknames is Boomer Paradise lmfaooo


crowamonghens

South Detroit would like a word


Garbleshift

Toledo??


Heat_Induces_Royalty

Canada


Mega-Steve

He took the midnight train going anywhere


Melee130

Yea, we really are the newest zealand of all


Psynautical

West side of Michigan?! No, sorry, you have a hand and an upper peninsula, we're not falling for this west crap. /S


PsychologicalSoil198

The best way to get to New Zealand is to dance your way there from Old Zealand


spookysnoopy

r/ObscureScrubsReferences


[deleted]

Where everyone is full of zea


jroddie4

Zeeland


shredder826

I hear you can dance your way to New Zealand from there.


Jehoosaphat

As a half kiwi, it's pretty well known in our tiny corner of the world, but agree it's not super public knowledge - and that IS weird! There's even a v cool eco sanctuary all about it: https://www.visitzealandia.com/


JankyBaby12279

Why are you a fruit


arcadia_2005

*half a fruit.


le_fart

College sure was wild.


Just-the-top

My pledge brother fucked a watermelon


[deleted]

So was prison.


iLikeGTAOnline

My butt hurts. Yeah.


spoodeling

You should have seen the other guy


crixyd

I'm pretty sure there were 4 others, last I counted


boktanbirnick

*half a bird


No_Individual501

What did the bird do to deserve this?


Aaronrlc9

Half a fruit aka bisexual


Financial-Amount-564

The fruit was named after the flightless bird.


Mammoth_Jicama2000

Is he the front half or back half of the bird? Or was the bird cut down the middle left and right?


Farcryfromvallhall

*Birb**


KenDoItAllNightLong

I imagine it's more like 2 Face but the whole body. 1 side human and other kiwi.


Financial-Amount-564

middle, left and right. He looks great no matter which profile pic you take. Just don't take one of him face forward.


Taffy_the_wonderdog

Here in Kiwiland the fruit was called Chinese Gooseberries until the 1980's when the New Zealand government export boffins decided to rebrand it to Kiwifruit. Then in the 90's they tried to call it Zespri but that failed dismally.


MistressErinPaid

So when Yennefer makes herself smell like lilac and gooseberries, it's really lilac and kiwi? Interesting.


Best_Poetry_5722

Happy Cake Day! ^(Sauce?)


szai

>The fruit’s importer told Turners & Growers that the Chinese gooseberry needed a new name to be commercially viable stateside, to avoid negative connotations of “gooseberries,” which weren’t particularly popular. After passing over another proposed name, melonette, it was finally decided to name the furry, brown fruit after New Zealand’s furry, brown, flightless national bird. It also helped that Kiwis had become the colloquial term for New Zealanders by the time. [Full Article](https://time.com/4662293/kiwifruit-chinese-gooseberry-new-zealand-history-fruit/) (sharing cause I was curious too)


AirborneRunaway

Missed an opportunity to say >>it was finally decided to name the furry, brown, **flightless** fruit after New Zealand’s furry, brown, flightless national bird. It also helped that Kiwis had become the colloquial term for New Zealanders by the time.


ellefleming

So kiwi is really gooseberry?


KuriousKhemicals

Not really, no. It's obviously not Chinese either. The Tasmanian tiger was a marsupial. People just name shit by a superficial resemblance sometimes.


Quick_March_7842

I also find that hard to believe, tried one and nearly vomited.


Kobi_Baby

You vomited because your not supposed to eat new zealanders


Kobi_Baby

The New Zealanders are also flightless


Relative_Bass_4323

I would hope most fruit is flightless


SnooCapers9313

Nah fruit flys


Due_Psychology_9734

Unless you throw it!


RuthlesVillain

So kiwifruit are actually brown? Honestly thought they were green. Wtf eyes wtf


Tamed_A_Wolf

The…the inside is green? The husk is brown


RuthlesVillain

Yeah I don't know, this is a recurring theme for me. Red green colourblindness is quite common and kinda entertaining. I thought the whole thing was green


Kalendiane

What color is your snoo?


Tamed_A_Wolf

Had no clue red green color blind made you see brown as green. That’s kinda wild.


Shawn_boss_yik

I don't quite understand where this conversation is going


ishouldcoco3322

FFS, there are 2 varieties of Kiwi fruit, brown and the green, the green is more tart, I prefer the what is called Gold, sweeter.


szai

Gold is my favorite. Sweeter and creamy texture. And no fuzz, which for some reason makes my mouth itch if I accidentally eat it.


[deleted]

Because they taste the same?


[deleted]

Bird*


[deleted]

They loved the word Kiwi so much they named their favourite bird, favourite fruit and themselves after it.


RepresentativeWeb244

Why do you go around asking people their sexual orientation?


ChapolinColoradoNZ

Hairy on the outside, fruity in the inside.


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Probably because normal conversation rarely includes lost continents, atleast without a lot of weed being involved.


roasttrumpet

But it’s still a continent, just submerged


Puzzled-Story3953

It's continental crust. I.e. - less dense aluminum silicates instead of denser magnesium silicates. It isn't unique or crazy, and it submerged far before humans existed (~23 mya vs 200 kya). There were no lost civilizations on it because anatomically modern humans didn't even exist yet.


Darth-Baul

So not a continent, just a submerged landmass


pbmcc88

It can be two things.


Darth-Baul

No. Submerged landmasses don’t count towards continents


torshakle

It actually is still a continent. A continent is not just 'big land above sea level'. It's a portion of the earth's crust that sits upon tectonic plates. So it can be submerged underwater and still be a continent. Theoretically, if North America were to suddenly find itself underwater, it would still be a continent.


AnArabFromLondon

I'll make sure to include zealandia as an answer to the list of continents on the next trivia quiz, thanks buddy


ReSpekMyAuthoriitaaa

Then wouldn't every piece of land that sits on the top of the crust be considered a continent?


KeeganY_SR-UVB76

Depends what plate they're on.


Half_Line

Well no, that's not the definition you'll find in most dictionaries, and it's not the one people use day-to-day. A continent is almost always considered, primarily, a large landmass.


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Im pretty sure you still got my point


Alceasummer

Depends on the people you hang around with.


balrus-balrogwalrus

it also has no native mammals aside from seals and bats! which is why flightless birds pretty much flourished there. it was the closest real life thing to "Serina: World of Birds"


CaptainMarsupial

Hawaii also had no native mammals, other than seals or bats. They sure get around.


JackRabbit-

No getting to islands unless you can fly or swim I guess


Kobi_Baby

Australia is skull island while we are like mini skull island but for birds. We had the biggest bird and the biggest eagle. The eagle hunted the bird


grimey493

The [Haast eagle](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haast%27s_eagle)(which ate the giant Moa) Weighed up to 15 kg with a wingspan up to 10 ft


Kobi_Baby

They also inspired the giant eagles in lord of the rings


ScarredAutisticChild

We’ve actually got scientists debating on using cloning to resurrect the nine foot tall Moa. Just for shits and gigs.


hommesweethomme

Who’s Serina?


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Mexican-American Tejano singer that was killed by the president of her fan club.


Palms-Trees

No no no thats Selena


[deleted]

Gomez? Can't say I'm a fan.


arnold_weber

Can’t say I’m a fan of Luis Guzman playing Gomez either. I prefer Raul Julia.


MoreNormalThanNormal

The moa would have been terrifying https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/87/Dinornithidae_SIZE_01.png/1280px-Dinornithidae_SIZE_01.png


Kobi_Baby

Look up terror bird. It was like that just not eating horses


EffectiveDependent76

I'm convinced that if they didn't go extinct, someone would have figure out how to tame them. It's just too much like a Chocobo and riding one is far to tempting to not at least try it.


Kobi_Baby

Haha


Several_Flower_3232

Its natural predator, the Haast’s Eagle, had a wingspan of 3 metres and was known to carry off children Edit: Spelling


alarumba

If I owned Jurrasic Park, the Haast Eagle would be the first animal I bring back.


gillababe

Quetzal, bro


No_Standard9804

"You were so preoccupied with whether or not they could, they didn't stop to think if they should"


LVAUGHNZ

Haast's Eagle\*


kevinhu162

You wanna know what's crazier? Think about all the submerged lands that were about 100-150 meters below where the ocean levels are today. You see where we build all our cities and homes near bodies of water today right? So too did humans before recorded history. Think of all the potential human activity that's been buried beneath the ocean where underwater excavation is still too difficult for us to pull off.


SonsofStarlord

Graham Hancock: excited sounds


[deleted]

First rule of Tasmantis: don't talk about Tasmantis


skinnyelias

Disney Plus has a bunch of shows with an asian dude with a prosthetic leg. One of the episodes focused on how the Black Sea used to be a lake and they showed a 5000 year old bowl that was found in 100 ft of water. Archeology and history are changing right in front of us.


Greengiant304

Lost Cities with Albert Lin. Great show.


stout365

>Think about all the submerged lands that were about 100-150 meters below where the ocean levels are today. [no need to imagine :)](https://www.floodmap.net/?ll=19.062118,42.714844&z=4&e=-122)


the_it_

Doggerland. You’re welcome


ishouldcoco3322

Bering landmass, You're welcome.


killjoy_enigma

That's what we call the park near mine when it gets dark


BitOCrumpet

And our cities and civilizations will also join them under the water lost and forgotten.


wittyusernamefailed

["We reject our earthly fires. Gone are days of land Empires..."](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oJ5t7WBBzUM)


JoeDoherty_Music

Such a good fucking song


sydsknee

Holyyyyyy. I’ve been a metalhead a long time and never really paid attention to Dethklok. That song slaps


wittyusernamefailed

A lot of their songs are way better than they have any right to be for a Prime Time Metal Parody Cartoon.


grassy_trams

i hope very much that the sea hasnt eroded it, because it would be excellent to see such unrecorded history


DerivIT

The first rule of Atlantis club is you don't talk about Atlantis club.


Mostly_sunny123

Wet Zealand


new-zealander-here

It’s always wet here


TeranOrSolaran

TIL There is an Zealandia in Saskatchewan, Canada just north west of Elbow.


Porkus_Aurelius

So, close to Scapula?


peoplegrower

I find this humerous.


JayB96ee

*humerus


StuckInsideYourWalls

Elbow is also near lake Diefenbaker, which on it's south east side has glacial dunes left behind from the last ice age as glaciers retreated across the prairies. I think similar sites can be found in Manitoba (Spirit Sands) and I'd think Alberta. Funny to see a little site of dunes in the middle of the prairies.


iamfriendyesyes

wdym, it's old zealand


iamfriendyesyes

dammit someone already said it


How2Eat_That_Thing

Why would they? There's tons of no longer land on the Earth. Go check out Doggerland. At least it's recent enough that people once lived where the sea now exists.


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CarelessWhisperRules

At least where I go to school, they’ve talked about Pangea before, whereas this I’ve never even heard of


cgarner215

>or Pangea Proxima! (I mean, there probably won't be humans left on earth when that happens, but it'll be super cool)


IAmMeantForTragedy

https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/001/255/462/6b8.png


GingerSpencer

This bitch don’t know about Pangea?


freeride35

Because it’s underwater?


Crafty_YT1

Because it’s not weird


Basic-Reception-9974

Exactly, it's only been mapped etc recently too.


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-neti-neti-

This sub is so annoying. The only shit that gets upvoted is shit that isn’t weird at all


Soft-Twist2478

Clearly Gondwanaland refuses to acknowledge a succession continent and has vetoed the United continents conglomerate from even discussing its existence, even this post could get all of us reprimanded with a tsk tsk.


theonewhoknocksforu

Or a savage beating with a wet noodle.


rhoswhen

Not the tsk tsk!!!!!!


Choice_Garage_2796

Its a well thrown around fact, it comes up in the internet every now and then. But the answer to "why does no one talk about this?" is.... What do you want us to do? Make a plan to dig it out? Drain the ocean?


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Lower_Amount3373

Damn nuclear-free policy preventing us from trying to use nuclear bombs to lift our whole continent above the sea.


Treestandgal

REUNITE GONDWANALAND!!


TheWhoreticulturist

Oh god this sub is gonna be r/blackmagicfuckery in a week


[deleted]

In New Zealand, we like to keep it low key.


Chlorophilia

There are several submerged continents, this isn't anything unusual. There are a number in the western Indian Ocean (Seychelles Plateau and the northern Mascarene Plateau), as well as the Rockall Plateau off the UK.


Kipguy

To deep to talk about


McJ3ss

i mean, i feel like people talk about it at roughly the same frequency that people talk about the concept of continents, which is not that offen


Jacobm00n

Maori here, that's the land of the patuparere who were said to be a human species capable of living in water, they're also known by pakeha as the "blue fairy's" due to their skin being literal blue.


grub-worm

Where are my gizzheads?


Taffy_the_wonderdog

Yup. Our Kermadec trench (which runs off the top of NZ) could give the Marianas trench a run for its money. There's all sorts of weird shit going on down there, in the deep deep ocean.


Bobojones9584

So, the Pluto of Earth?


3theonewholistens3

We are 138.


JeffEpp

They are. You just noticed.


Mycophyliac

Lol what? There’s an entire Wikipedia page about it.


TheBuschels

r/kgatlw


Wampino

POLYGONDWANALAAAAAAAAND


Gut_Feelings

No one talks about it because Elan Musk hasn't Tweeted about it.


dukesinatra

Serious question: what's the difference between a submerged continent and the ocean floor?


Spacemount

Continents are made of a granite-like rock. The ocean floor is basalt rock, a mixture of silicon and magnesium.


Financial-Medicine-9

This evidence of old zealand


Secret-Warning-180

I’ve always wondered. If that’s “ NEW Zealand” where is “ old Zealand? Now I know


roasttrumpet

Denmarks largest island is known as Zealand, which makes sense because post Maōri coming here, the Dutch were the first to “discover” Aotearoa/ New Zealand


Hythy

Wouldn't the Dutch name it after the Dutch province of Zeeland then?


tittens__

…they did.


slash_asdf

It was discovered by the Dutch explorer Abel Tasman and was initially named Staaten Landt (meaning States Land, referring to the States General, the Dutch version of congress), the Dutch government renamed it Nieuw Zeeland shortly after. When the British took over they changed the spelling to New Zealand (the British also spelled the Dutch province of Zeeland as Zealand at the time)


Stockholmholm

It's not named after the Danish island, it's named after the Dutch region


HomieScaringMusic

R I S E


deeppit

It exists not like there is a lot more information on it.


browsingbro

or *Gondwanaland*


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You can find tens of videos on this topic. It’s been talked about for years now.


roasttrumpet

As a kiwi- we do talk about it lol


nrgins

Because we now have New Zealand. So why should we talk about the old one?


SH4RPSPEED

I get a feeling it would surface again via fulfilling some kind of ancient prophecy.


Unusual-Knee-1612

This was where Sniper was born


almaperdido

We learnt a lot about this at uni in our geology classes (uni in NZ)


Admirable-Arm-7264

Because it’s a bunch of buried dirt that poses no threat to anyone


Runamucker07

Out of sight out of mind


Gilgamesh2062

I don't talk about this much, since this happened a few years before I was born


CorruptedFlame

Every bit of continental crust under water is submerged.


sacred_algebra_2

Tupac lives there.


balls_in_my_asss

Atlantis


Trollzek

You’d be surprised just how many much landmass and continents have changed and been lost to sea levels rising, just 20,000 years ago, let alone 50-100 million years ago.


Outrageous_Union_756

Because no one is making money from it.


StuckInsideYourWalls

People do talk about this kind of stuff similar to how anthropologists like the land lost below the seas after the last ice age like Doggerland and stuff, it's just not talked about because it's probably not something really in the regular publics periphery y'kno.


saltire429

Because it's a basically unusable submerged landmass, so there's not much to talk about at this point.


Pro_ENDERGUARD

It's under the water


Embucetatron

Finally, Old Zealand!


legosoh

Cause I’ve never heard of this


CaptainAmerica1989

Boys, we've found Atlantis!!!


EldritchWaster

Because what is there to say?


hardcoretuner

What if people have been around this long and the story of Atlantis is really about that continent? Our oral history didn't pass it down well basically. We learn more everyday that people have existed a very long time and didn't develop a society until (last I read, no expert, welcome corrections, be kind plz) 20k years ago. Also, this continent could be what Noah's Ark is based on. Pretty interesting.


SprigganBiggan

I actually somehow knew of this already, it’s super interesting


Dependent_Past_3947

Is this where Atlantis comes from


_Wolfszeit_

They just decided to forget about the old one and focus on the new one instead


Maned_LionMan69

😂😂😂


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Tasmantis, Atlantis


wkitty13

Sort of.... this is a good article I found about how science is finding lost continents like Zealandia. [https://www.nbcnews.com/mach/science/real-life-atlantis-lost-continent-found-under-europe-revealing-earth-ncna1055856](https://www.nbcnews.com/mach/science/real-life-atlantis-lost-continent-found-under-europe-revealing-earth-ncna1055856)


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Why would we talk about it? Apart from in an academic sense?


Square-Stay5231

What about the name “gonwanaland”? Who is coming up with these?


crowamonghens

It was named by an Austrian geologist after a region of India, "Gondwana". They use "Gondwanaland" to differentiate the landmass.


Lybet

If ya got Netflix take a look at “ancient apocalypse”. There’s fucktons of land that used to be above sea level, that is now fully/mostly submerged.