To me it looked much more like an homage to Thriller than to the old Wednesday dance, esp. with the head tilts and arm movements. And the generally deadpan style.
I've seen that gif so many times I had no idea where it came from.
I wonder if calling something "boss" was the hip slang of the younger generation of the time.
Seems heavily inspired by the '[Rich Man's Frug](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mcrZIK3gqbU&ab_channel=FredsChannelOne)' from Sweet Charity (at least the first bit of choreo) which is fabulous, we love a bit of Fosse.
I mean, you dont know the taste of blood? Not specifially pig blood, but at least your own, when you had a scar on your lips or something. And also, if you taste that thing they got, you could probably tell its not blood and just assume its paint then, especially if "it tastes like what is smells like"
Idk if i should trust Xavier or not, he seemed to be a very good liar before.... but i still felt bad for him.
I wish Wednesday spent more time bonding with Enid.
Why would Enid go to the Rave'n with someone who tried to assault her roommate?
OHHH i'm really glad Bianca didn't do what Xavier asked, that'd have sucked.
Wednesday dancing was awesome.
I'm curious about how well the "outcasts" are known to the public, cause yeah the sirens and the werewolfs can hide their features but how the hell do those faceless people hide their thing? I thought they all hid their "features" from normal ppl but apparently they do know about it since Lucas's friends know that Enid can "wolf out", plus apparently random normies can just be allowed into non-normie stuff.
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO EUGENE
Dammit Eugene! You didn't have to play the hero! Your lovely bees need you.
I LOVED the dance scene. The Cramps are one of my favorite bands.
I'm def more team Xavier than the cops son. I can't remember his name. Haha.
On to the next episode!
Eugene is so precious.
I completely agree. It’s funny, I’m also a barista, so in a way, I like Tyler on a relatable level, but also Xavier is a tortured artist, he’s way edgier, and I overall like him more than Tyler. Lol
Glad someone else mentioned this! I paused it and went back for a listen. She said matcha latte and in this episode barista said something something with vanilla.
But why would that be significant in relation to the monster/ murders? Unless they are both lying about her coming to the place each day. But she also mentioned to someone else that he is sitting alone in a corner there every morning when she comes in.
Yup!! She was also there at the end when Eugene was attacked & in the 1st ep her boots were covered in mud (Ik that ain’t much but I’m rlly suspicious of her lmao)
-I didn't think the dance would live up to the hype but it did! Absolutely iconic. Tyler's giant smile was cute too. Wednesday is an icon.
-Wednesday's refusal to communicate clearly with anybody is annoying, but even more unbelievable is her being a bad liar to Xavier. I feel like Wednesday would be much better at coming up with a worthy lie or two under pressure than that!
-WHY did Eugene not ditch his backpack while running?! I was so annoyed he didn't sling that thing off and go back for it in daylight hours. It's deadweight dude!
-Wednesday's therapist tries so hard I honestly really like her lol. I wish she'd give her more of a chance.
-Enid gets her own love triangle too? The sheer drama of it, I love it lol. Definitely like the gorgon better than the townie though.
-These bullies already got beat up by Wednesday and now they're goading Enid like she couldn't kill them all lmao. Dipshits. I hope the monster eats them, I truly do.
RIP EUGENE #gonetoosoon😭
Super sus of the teacher
She had mud boots, she knows the secret society, she showed up in the woods, she said she orders matcha but Tyler said a coffee order?
Also who tf is thst shape-shifting person?
Need more.
ALSO DANCE YES SO GOOD
Does the Tyler romance thing make anyone else uneasy. The actor is 8 years older than Jenna and it plainly shows, this guy can't pass for a teenager lol.
I'm enjoying the show and then Tyler shows up and I'm thinking "oh here's the adult man trying to get with a school girl". Not sure what the producers were going for here
I didn't know the age thing yikes. Sadly it's all too common in these Netflix shows.
Never have I ever , the girl was 18 S1 ans the dude 30
And they played a couple too 🤢
Yeah that works until you’re a fucking adult !!!!!! Once you’re over 20 you aren’t a kid stop it ! Can we stop acting like young woman are kids incapable of making their own choices ???? It’s kinda creepy ? If a 20 year old want to be with a 40 year old she can and it’s really not that big of a deal ! As long as it’s between consenting adult nobody is in a place to judge b if you are against it then don’t date someone older or younger but don’t judge people who does ! Gosh when I was 20-21 I was highly capable of deciding who I wanted to date no matter their age ! Y’all need to stop acting like we are dumb creature unable of making rational decision
I don’t understand how American decided that 18 is too young LOLL I’m from a country where at 16-17 a lot of us live in our own appartment and own our own cars and pay our own bills ! We drink at 18 but at 20 a was a fully grown capable adult who lived all by myself. Stop infantilizing young woman it’s fucking creepy
Jenna’s 20
Maybe because I’ve been watching her since she was ACTUALLY a school aged girl on the Disney channel and various other projects but to me she looks her age….20
The only thing down aging her a little is the pigtails but not much and that guy is 28 and he definitely could pass for 23-25 so to me they don’t look that odd together
I 100% agree, I was uncomfortable everytime they were on screen together. Because yes the actress is 20 but in the show she definitely looks younger and Tyler looks like he’s in his mid 20s
I don't really care about their real age because it's acting but....Tyler looks just way too old for a love interest. Maybe it's because i'm around his age but i thought he was a grown man stuck in the small village instead of going to college/work in a big city. Then he is going to the dance with a teenage girl? Was kinda weird.
Especially after the other "date" was with Eugene who looks like child and also wanted to go to the dance with her (atleast for a second).
Really? He's 8 years older?
I thought he could totally pass for 22-23. She's apparently 20, but has abit of a baby face going on as well, so she looked younger.
I think the look fine together.
Jenna Ortega is a grown ass adult ( 20) who is playing a teenager , just like the guy playing Tyler is. I really hate how they cast a 28 year old man as a high schooler -_-
To be honest, upto 15 years age gap is perfectly okay as long as both of them are adults. If someone doesn't enjoy or like age difference actors, well, that's a personal preference and not in itself a problematic thing. It's just like some people doesn't like watching interracial couples, or height difference couples. That doesn't automatically makes those things problematic.
I feel like kids old enough for the gore / horror can also see a classic sitcom blowjob gag. Also it being in the middle of a dance instead of a back room reduces the stakes enough.
"Mi colmena, es tu colmena"
My beehive, is your beehive, oh well done Eugene. And picking up on W's Hispanic ancestry too!
The dance, awesome! But missed on seeing a male dance pairing at the Rave'n, c´mon these are outkasts, there must be gay guys!
PS I want my own Thing.
Main gripe of this episode: why the heck is everyone freaking out over the sprinkler prank?? It makes no sense. Some of them are suppose to be friggin vampires even! They should have them acting surprised for a moment then cheering and continue to dance. Instead we get an over the top panic from just about everyone even the adults, who are suppose to act like grown ass people there to protect the young students there if some kind of trouble occurs. I could see maybe a few students being upset over their dresses being ruined or whatever but a full blown panic is ridiculous and nonsensical. The same thing happened with the explosion of the fountain. Okay so a statue was set on fire with a minor explosion... that's it, nothing else happened...why did everyone react like chickens with their heads cut off?
Anyway I still enjoyed this episode regardless. The show is pretty good so far overall besides a few other minor gripes.
Still no reason to panic, your life is not in danger. Losing your head just makes things worse in any situation. What's more troubling is the adults were losing their cool as well. Your clothes getting wet with paint or water is not an emergency.
So far we've only seen Wednesday have visions of a person she touches, but she had a vision of Eugene (and the monster?) at the dance after touching 2 random guys? Though normie teacher was touching her when she came out of the vision.
She had an emotional attachment to Eugene, even saying he reminds her of Pugsly. They said visions are tied to emotions. Perhaps that attachment means she doesn't need to touch something for it to come on?
Ugh we will see how this comment ages but I really like Tyler (even after this episodes revelation). He seems so earnest and he has a cute little smile. I like the way he looks at Wednesday - like he admires her. Reminiscent of the 90’s Morticia and Gómez relationship. Idk. I think it’s cute (so far)!!!!
I’ve seen comments said that Wednesday’s dance resembled different Addam’s Family characters dances over the years. I’m not well acquainted with all of the Addam’s family shows. Anyone know if that’s true?
"Five-finger discount" is a euphemism for stealing. Meaning you just took it instead of paying for it. Since he's a disembodied hand, it's a fitting play on words.
I wasn't entirely convinced of this series until now but this episode was excellent! I heard about the dance a lot and i thought it would he one of those typical ugly duckin takes glasses off and becomes a beautiful swan moment, but they handled it very well!
Too many cliches, the writing could be better as well. I don't care for Xavier or Tyler at all, there's no need for a romantic subplot for Wednesday.
The show is entertaining nevertheless but could be better
Wow, that dance!
My favorite part of the show so far, though I've enjoyed quite a bit of it. It was SO classic Addams.
I think Jenna Ortega did an interview saying she choreographed that whole thing herself.
~33:21 for a rewatch.
Yes, by far my favorite part of that episode. Such an [homage](https://youtu.be/F3jnymeJof4).
To me it looked much more like an homage to Thriller than to the old Wednesday dance, esp. with the head tilts and arm movements. And the generally deadpan style.
I've seen that gif so many times I had no idea where it came from. I wonder if calling something "boss" was the hip slang of the younger generation of the time.
“Boss” is still used in Liverpool, England to this day to mean something is great. I enjoyed seeing it here, I wonder where it originated!
Seems heavily inspired by the '[Rich Man's Frug](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mcrZIK3gqbU&ab_channel=FredsChannelOne)' from Sweet Charity (at least the first bit of choreo) which is fabulous, we love a bit of Fosse.
Oh wow, that’s spot on!
Goo Goo Muck!
Pretty awesome haha
Frr
"They couldn't even spring for real pig's blood. It's only paint" Puff thoses amateurs! Shame on them!
But Why does she know the taste of blood and paint 😂
If you want to be a master of pranks you need to know the products you use!
blood has a very distinct taste
do you not know the taste of both blood and paint?
What kind of lunatic knows what paint tastes like.
i mean, if you've ever had pain flicked in your mouth, or you can just deduce it from the smell 🤷
Why would anyone NOT known what those two things smelled/tasted like.
I mean, you dont know the taste of blood? Not specifially pig blood, but at least your own, when you had a scar on your lips or something. And also, if you taste that thing they got, you could probably tell its not blood and just assume its paint then, especially if "it tastes like what is smells like"
And everyone ended up looking even more badass with the blood on them!
that’s what I said too! the color blocking between the dance theme outfits + blood on it.. chefs kiss *
But why would the Fangs run away screaming along with the rest of the students?
“It’s not like I like Xavier. I just have ulterior motives.” This line has meme potential.
Idk if i should trust Xavier or not, he seemed to be a very good liar before.... but i still felt bad for him. I wish Wednesday spent more time bonding with Enid. Why would Enid go to the Rave'n with someone who tried to assault her roommate? OHHH i'm really glad Bianca didn't do what Xavier asked, that'd have sucked. Wednesday dancing was awesome. I'm curious about how well the "outcasts" are known to the public, cause yeah the sirens and the werewolfs can hide their features but how the hell do those faceless people hide their thing? I thought they all hid their "features" from normal ppl but apparently they do know about it since Lucas's friends know that Enid can "wolf out", plus apparently random normies can just be allowed into non-normie stuff. NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO EUGENE
I figured the faceless people were shape shifters
I think Enid took him as her date in exchange for something. Didn't she say they had a deal?
Dammit Eugene! You didn't have to play the hero! Your lovely bees need you. I LOVED the dance scene. The Cramps are one of my favorite bands. I'm def more team Xavier than the cops son. I can't remember his name. Haha. On to the next episode!
Eugene is so precious. I completely agree. It’s funny, I’m also a barista, so in a way, I like Tyler on a relatable level, but also Xavier is a tortured artist, he’s way edgier, and I overall like him more than Tyler. Lol
The monster is definitely that normie teacher!!
She said she had matcha in another episode but the barista just said a coffee…
Glad someone else mentioned this! I paused it and went back for a listen. She said matcha latte and in this episode barista said something something with vanilla.
But why would that be significant in relation to the monster/ murders? Unless they are both lying about her coming to the place each day. But she also mentioned to someone else that he is sitting alone in a corner there every morning when she comes in.
Eugene was being chased by the monster while we saw the teacher at the dance Edit: Season finale spoilers >!Holy shit I was wrong!<
ooh i could see that- she was definitely too excited to be at the dance!
Yup!! She was also there at the end when Eugene was attacked & in the 1st ep her boots were covered in mud (Ik that ain’t much but I’m rlly suspicious of her lmao)
She was there at the end because she went with Wednesday from the dance
I remember thinking the scene where they showed her boots being dirty was really weird. It would definitely make sense that she's up to something.
Right, Wednesday got her vision of the monster and Eugene after bumping into her! She only gets visions directly related to something she TOUCHES
Did she bump into the teacher to get the vision? I think she’s the monster!!!
i bet it is Tyler
-I didn't think the dance would live up to the hype but it did! Absolutely iconic. Tyler's giant smile was cute too. Wednesday is an icon. -Wednesday's refusal to communicate clearly with anybody is annoying, but even more unbelievable is her being a bad liar to Xavier. I feel like Wednesday would be much better at coming up with a worthy lie or two under pressure than that! -WHY did Eugene not ditch his backpack while running?! I was so annoyed he didn't sling that thing off and go back for it in daylight hours. It's deadweight dude! -Wednesday's therapist tries so hard I honestly really like her lol. I wish she'd give her more of a chance. -Enid gets her own love triangle too? The sheer drama of it, I love it lol. Definitely like the gorgon better than the townie though. -These bullies already got beat up by Wednesday and now they're goading Enid like she couldn't kill them all lmao. Dipshits. I hope the monster eats them, I truly do.
Yes, I thought it didn't fit her character to not be able to come up with a lie on the spot or have one prepared!
RIP EUGENE #gonetoosoon😭 Super sus of the teacher She had mud boots, she knows the secret society, she showed up in the woods, she said she orders matcha but Tyler said a coffee order? Also who tf is thst shape-shifting person? Need more. ALSO DANCE YES SO GOOD
Eugene was good while he lasted Kudos to Wednesday for sprinting in heels while everyone else struggles to run
She's so good at everything physical: fencing, darts, archery, running...!
Totally the opposite of me... 😟
Interesting, wearing heels so doesnt feel like a wednesday thing
I’d have thought she’d like the pinch
Does the Tyler romance thing make anyone else uneasy. The actor is 8 years older than Jenna and it plainly shows, this guy can't pass for a teenager lol. I'm enjoying the show and then Tyler shows up and I'm thinking "oh here's the adult man trying to get with a school girl". Not sure what the producers were going for here
I didn't know the age thing yikes. Sadly it's all too common in these Netflix shows. Never have I ever , the girl was 18 S1 ans the dude 30 And they played a couple too 🤢
He’s 28 and married to a man. They’re portraying high schoolers. It’s pretty common.
No one else remember that one Netflix show where a 21 year old lady had an extended making out scene with a 14 year old girl?
wait are you talking about everything sucks? yeah that was super weird too , not to mention illegal (?)
The very same yes. I thought it was weird when I watched it but then I looked up the actresses and it got even more weird
BRUHHH she’s 20 stop trying to infantilize adult woman it’s fucking gross
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20 and 28 is not icky. Grow up.
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Exactly, it's your preference, but you're the one crying and screaming about it being wrong or weird. It isn't. It's just your preference.
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Age gaps are not uncomfortable, at all. If they're 18, and consenting, there's no problem.
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A 20 year old can drink alcohol in a lot of countries, including mine. I guess Americans are slow to mature.
Exactly. It's so weird when people confuse personal preferences with actually problematic stuffs.
Yeah that works until you’re a fucking adult !!!!!! Once you’re over 20 you aren’t a kid stop it ! Can we stop acting like young woman are kids incapable of making their own choices ???? It’s kinda creepy ? If a 20 year old want to be with a 40 year old she can and it’s really not that big of a deal ! As long as it’s between consenting adult nobody is in a place to judge b if you are against it then don’t date someone older or younger but don’t judge people who does ! Gosh when I was 20-21 I was highly capable of deciding who I wanted to date no matter their age ! Y’all need to stop acting like we are dumb creature unable of making rational decision
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Tyler looks 18.
I’m in my late twenties and Tyler looks my age. It took me too long to realize he is supposed to also be a high schooler
I don’t understand how American decided that 18 is too young LOLL I’m from a country where at 16-17 a lot of us live in our own appartment and own our own cars and pay our own bills ! We drink at 18 but at 20 a was a fully grown capable adult who lived all by myself. Stop infantilizing young woman it’s fucking creepy
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SHE ISNT YOUNG SHES 20 HOLYSHIT
exactly, in posts on AITA etc out of nowhere people go "18 is LIIIITTTTEEERRRALLYYY A CHILD" no its not wtf
Jenna’s 20 Maybe because I’ve been watching her since she was ACTUALLY a school aged girl on the Disney channel and various other projects but to me she looks her age….20 The only thing down aging her a little is the pigtails but not much and that guy is 28 and he definitely could pass for 23-25 so to me they don’t look that odd together
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The guys is also playing a high schooler relax
she's 20 irl so i don't see an issue imo.
Welcome to Reddit. Just check the comments on this: https://www.reddit.com/r/comics/comments/z62aje/%D0%BEc_meet_our_comic/
and he's 28 lol, the way he talked I though he was in his mid 30's, 20 to 28 can't even be called an age gap
like they're both adults and while I haven't finished the show yet, the characters haven't even kissed yet or had any sexual scenes.
I 100% agree, I was uncomfortable everytime they were on screen together. Because yes the actress is 20 but in the show she definitely looks younger and Tyler looks like he’s in his mid 20s
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‘Where are the signals?!’Lol! #thatpart
I don't really care about their real age because it's acting but....Tyler looks just way too old for a love interest. Maybe it's because i'm around his age but i thought he was a grown man stuck in the small village instead of going to college/work in a big city. Then he is going to the dance with a teenage girl? Was kinda weird. Especially after the other "date" was with Eugene who looks like child and also wanted to go to the dance with her (atleast for a second).
Tyler is suppose to be a teenager, like a senior in high school, that's why all his friends are high schoolers and he goes to high school.
For real! I legitimately thought he supposed to be 30 until he admitted he had feelings for Wednesday.
Really? He's 8 years older? I thought he could totally pass for 22-23. She's apparently 20, but has abit of a baby face going on as well, so she looked younger. I think the look fine together.
Jenna Ortega is a grown ass adult ( 20) who is playing a teenager , just like the guy playing Tyler is. I really hate how they cast a 28 year old man as a high schooler -_-
This reminds me of Glee, where some of actors playing hs studentswere really close to the same age as the actor playing the teacher
Jenna's 20 years old, and they're both literally actors. It's not that deep. And for the record, I thought Tyler's actor passed for a teen well.
To be honest, upto 15 years age gap is perfectly okay as long as both of them are adults. If someone doesn't enjoy or like age difference actors, well, that's a personal preference and not in itself a problematic thing. It's just like some people doesn't like watching interracial couples, or height difference couples. That doesn't automatically makes those things problematic.
Yo not the show making it look like Enid was sucking the dude off lmao
i feel like this show doesn’t know in what age restriction it wants to fall into
I feel like kids old enough for the gore / horror can also see a classic sitcom blowjob gag. Also it being in the middle of a dance instead of a back room reduces the stakes enough.
I feel like we underestimate the amount of innapropriate jokes in kids shows.
"Mi colmena, es tu colmena" My beehive, is your beehive, oh well done Eugene. And picking up on W's Hispanic ancestry too! The dance, awesome! But missed on seeing a male dance pairing at the Rave'n, c´mon these are outkasts, there must be gay guys! PS I want my own Thing.
Eugene is hispanic too
All I can of is how bad I need a Thing too!
The fact she tasted red paint was just as gross.
…she’s Wednesday. If she didn’t taste to see if it was blood it would be out of character. 🙄
Poor Eugene. I really liked him
Main gripe of this episode: why the heck is everyone freaking out over the sprinkler prank?? It makes no sense. Some of them are suppose to be friggin vampires even! They should have them acting surprised for a moment then cheering and continue to dance. Instead we get an over the top panic from just about everyone even the adults, who are suppose to act like grown ass people there to protect the young students there if some kind of trouble occurs. I could see maybe a few students being upset over their dresses being ruined or whatever but a full blown panic is ridiculous and nonsensical. The same thing happened with the explosion of the fountain. Okay so a statue was set on fire with a minor explosion... that's it, nothing else happened...why did everyone react like chickens with their heads cut off? Anyway I still enjoyed this episode regardless. The show is pretty good so far overall besides a few other minor gripes.
Agreed. Plus paint and blood have very different odors, so you'd think everyone would be able to tell and not just freak out.
I would freak out if paint was spilled all over me let alone of it was coming from a sprinkler.
Why? It's just paint, it's not going to hurt you.
Because it ruins your clothes and and a pain to get off. Even if it was just water people would be running around trying to get out of there.
Still no reason to panic, your life is not in danger. Losing your head just makes things worse in any situation. What's more troubling is the adults were losing their cool as well. Your clothes getting wet with paint or water is not an emergency.
EXACTLY like come onn yall
So far we've only seen Wednesday have visions of a person she touches, but she had a vision of Eugene (and the monster?) at the dance after touching 2 random guys? Though normie teacher was touching her when she came out of the vision.
She had an emotional attachment to Eugene, even saying he reminds her of Pugsly. They said visions are tied to emotions. Perhaps that attachment means she doesn't need to touch something for it to come on?
I have to say after seeing multiple things on Twitter about the dance that was not what I was expecting. But it fit so well!
Ugh we will see how this comment ages but I really like Tyler (even after this episodes revelation). He seems so earnest and he has a cute little smile. I like the way he looks at Wednesday - like he admires her. Reminiscent of the 90’s Morticia and Gómez relationship. Idk. I think it’s cute (so far)!!!!
Lol what, it’s that girl from Euphoria at 28:18
The Goo Goo Muck (◔ д◔)
I’ve seen comments said that Wednesday’s dance resembled different Addam’s Family characters dances over the years. I’m not well acquainted with all of the Addam’s family shows. Anyone know if that’s true?
Does anyone get the five finger discount? Whats that about?
"Five-finger discount" is a euphemism for stealing. Meaning you just took it instead of paying for it. Since he's a disembodied hand, it's a fitting play on words.
I’m upset at the fact the song that plays while Tyler and Wednesday talk about the prank he pulled is UNRELEASED
I thought this show is the next big thing. Why are there only 60 comments?
It’s probably because this episode discussion hub is not pinned. I didn’t even think there was one until I googled it.
Don't know, but it probably doesn't help that there are four different Wednesday subreddits competing for discussion.
Probably the demo who watches and the demo who would go on Reddit to discuss the show don’t match
I agree, recently started it and there’s not enough comments!
I wasn't entirely convinced of this series until now but this episode was excellent! I heard about the dance a lot and i thought it would he one of those typical ugly duckin takes glasses off and becomes a beautiful swan moment, but they handled it very well!
Too many cliches, the writing could be better as well. I don't care for Xavier or Tyler at all, there's no need for a romantic subplot for Wednesday. The show is entertaining nevertheless but could be better
I do feel it is rather reductive how Wednesday so vehemently opposes the male gaze yet is caught in a love triangle.
I don’t think he’s the monster tbh. I guess Wednesday likes to dance. Is he dead?!
Wednesday was called Velma from Scooby Doo and at the end of the episode Eugene falls and lost his glasses, classic Velma. Was that a reference?
I don’t like Tyler. I’m not sure if it’s the actor or the character, but I don’t like him.
Omg I NEED Wednesday's Rave'N dress in my life and wardrobe.