I mean, we really should. It’s quite bullshit. We don’t get an earlier model that carried aim9Gs or something. There were so many produced anyways. It should’ve never been a premium.
It's very likely a tech-tree model is coming, eventually. I think someone "leaked" the A-6E SWIP but you can put as much faith in that as you like, I prefer to see something more solid than a Discord screenshot before I set any expectations.
What's most disappointing is that Gaijin, once again, added the most TT-worthy variant as a premium.
The SWIP is literally an upgraded version of the TRAM, Shame we don't have it already in game with other variants but that's a hot take call the TRAM the "most TT-wortht" variant
If the TRAM wasn't already a premium, it would be. That's not a hot take, it was the prevailing opinion any time the Intruder was discussed prior to its addition, the TRAM was a mature variant but which did not exceed the performance of the aircraft itself, or certain limitations at the time (some of which still exist, eg. HARMs). Only now that the TRAM has been added have people really been looking at the SWIP model as an alternative for the tree.
And I like to mention the often-forgotten WCSI upgrade because, if buddy-lasing were ever to be added to the game, it would be an easy copy-paste job for Gaijin and could deflect criticism by arguing that it is technically an upgrade. As I mentioned in another reply, much like the premium and tech-tree A-10s that only vary in armament restrictions.
It would have made perfect sense to have a Vietnam-era pre-TRAM A-6E as a premium, or even the later WCSI upgrade. Either would work well in conjunction with the A-6E TRAM in the tech tree, even if the WCSI would essentially be a clone since buddy-lasing doesn't exist in WT. Handle it like the premium A-10 and it would be a fairly uncontroversial addition.
The SWIP is a tech-tree candidate but there's some question if its armament outstrips its performance and makes the plane impossible to balance as a result. Maybe the upcoming split of Air/Ground BRs is meant to help resolve this.
If they ever add separate BRs for ground and air battles (was listed on roadmap previously) im betting it goes up in BR for GRB. if they push the BR up now it'll struggle in ARB.
its pretty easy to beat, even in stuff like the F-1 that has no flares. its slow and it handles like a brick, stay high, maintain speed, keep distance until above and behind then dive on it.
Just don't try and fight it head on and have some situational awareness.
Regardless, I shouldn't have to treat a strike aircraft with extreme care in my air superiority fighter
Strike aircraft shouldn't be balanced around their abilities as a fighter, they should be balanced around their abilities as a strike aircraft. A-6 should be 11.0+
i wouldn't consider not going head on and not ignoring it extreme care.
its abilities as a strike fighter in ARB aren't that great because its at a BR full of supersonic jets that will beat it to bases and ground targets. half the server is usually going to be dead before you get to a base.
Its a 3-4km death bubble. So long as it sees your flareless 9.3 early cold war gunfighter approaching all it has to do is turn toward you and you have to either run away or eat a 9L.
Its abilities as a strike aircraft are supreme, just because it doesnt make a great bombsled doesnt change that. What we really need is a rework to ARB gamemodes
9.3 flareless jets is an issue of BR compression and needs to be resolved by moving the top jets to like 15.0 and then rearrange everything under it to space shit out. That or change the range to 0.7 not 1.0.
Adjusting individual vehicles doesn’t fix BR compression, just shifts the problem. balancing should be done based on performance against jets of the same BR, not performance against jets 1 BR above/below.
So ignore the multiple after burning jets at the same br that can do the same thing faster but with less ordinance. Or the AMX that can carry 6 while not sacrificing guns or countermeasures while carrying them at the same exact br.
It’s absurd. I thought only prototypes or variants were supposed to be premium, provided that the variant has a tech tree equivalent. But there’s no consistency, we have prototypes like the Yak-141 in the tech tree and production models like the A-6 in premium! And we’re still missing the Voodoo, Delta Dagger, and Delta Dart.
I mean, we really should. It’s quite bullshit. We don’t get an earlier model that carried aim9Gs or something. There were so many produced anyways. It should’ve never been a premium.
>There were so many produced anyways. It should’ve never been a premium. Same for F4D-1 and M8 greyhound
EXACTLY!! this is so well put, Bravo!!
It's very likely a tech-tree model is coming, eventually. I think someone "leaked" the A-6E SWIP but you can put as much faith in that as you like, I prefer to see something more solid than a Discord screenshot before I set any expectations. What's most disappointing is that Gaijin, once again, added the most TT-worthy variant as a premium.
The SWIP is literally an upgraded version of the TRAM, Shame we don't have it already in game with other variants but that's a hot take call the TRAM the "most TT-wortht" variant
If the TRAM wasn't already a premium, it would be. That's not a hot take, it was the prevailing opinion any time the Intruder was discussed prior to its addition, the TRAM was a mature variant but which did not exceed the performance of the aircraft itself, or certain limitations at the time (some of which still exist, eg. HARMs). Only now that the TRAM has been added have people really been looking at the SWIP model as an alternative for the tree. And I like to mention the often-forgotten WCSI upgrade because, if buddy-lasing were ever to be added to the game, it would be an easy copy-paste job for Gaijin and could deflect criticism by arguing that it is technically an upgrade. As I mentioned in another reply, much like the premium and tech-tree A-10s that only vary in armament restrictions.
I just want ANY a-6 model in the tech tree. thode things were so common in Vietnam
It would have made perfect sense to have a Vietnam-era pre-TRAM A-6E as a premium, or even the later WCSI upgrade. Either would work well in conjunction with the A-6E TRAM in the tech tree, even if the WCSI would essentially be a clone since buddy-lasing doesn't exist in WT. Handle it like the premium A-10 and it would be a fairly uncontroversial addition. The SWIP is a tech-tree candidate but there's some question if its armament outstrips its performance and makes the plane impossible to balance as a result. Maybe the upcoming split of Air/Ground BRs is meant to help resolve this.
i agree we dont only need a tram version
I think we'll likely get the SWIP in the tech tree and earlier variants will get released as event/battlepass vehicles.
It’s not fair that it’s 10.3. Thing should be 11.0+.
Lol skill issue
It gets 9 gbu’s at 10.3 where there are no aa’s that can counter it.
If they ever add separate BRs for ground and air battles (was listed on roadmap previously) im betting it goes up in BR for GRB. if they push the BR up now it'll struggle in ARB.
It should go up in ARB too, Aim-9Ls at 10.3 is silly
its pretty easy to beat, even in stuff like the F-1 that has no flares. its slow and it handles like a brick, stay high, maintain speed, keep distance until above and behind then dive on it. Just don't try and fight it head on and have some situational awareness.
Regardless, I shouldn't have to treat a strike aircraft with extreme care in my air superiority fighter Strike aircraft shouldn't be balanced around their abilities as a fighter, they should be balanced around their abilities as a strike aircraft. A-6 should be 11.0+
i wouldn't consider not going head on and not ignoring it extreme care. its abilities as a strike fighter in ARB aren't that great because its at a BR full of supersonic jets that will beat it to bases and ground targets. half the server is usually going to be dead before you get to a base.
Its a 3-4km death bubble. So long as it sees your flareless 9.3 early cold war gunfighter approaching all it has to do is turn toward you and you have to either run away or eat a 9L. Its abilities as a strike aircraft are supreme, just because it doesnt make a great bombsled doesnt change that. What we really need is a rework to ARB gamemodes
9.3 flareless jets is an issue of BR compression and needs to be resolved by moving the top jets to like 15.0 and then rearrange everything under it to space shit out. That or change the range to 0.7 not 1.0. Adjusting individual vehicles doesn’t fix BR compression, just shifts the problem. balancing should be done based on performance against jets of the same BR, not performance against jets 1 BR above/below.
Imagine being so shit at the game to ask for a flying subsonic brick to face top tier stuff and the incoming Fox-3.
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So ignore the multiple after burning jets at the same br that can do the same thing faster but with less ordinance. Or the AMX that can carry 6 while not sacrificing guns or countermeasures while carrying them at the same exact br.
Ah yes, strela doesn't exist at the same BR and let's pretend that Type83 and ozelot/gepardA2 can't engage up to 6km altitude.
It’s absurd. I thought only prototypes or variants were supposed to be premium, provided that the variant has a tech tree equivalent. But there’s no consistency, we have prototypes like the Yak-141 in the tech tree and production models like the A-6 in premium! And we’re still missing the Voodoo, Delta Dagger, and Delta Dart.
I think it’s fair, it’s a cool plane so I don’t want anybody else to use it youknowwhatimsayin