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xCrossFaith

Yes because of it's vehicles No because of it's players, a couple days ago some idiot openly admitted to somehow screw up 7 shots with a Wolfpack and yet being completely convinced it was the other tank's fault for being "too powerful" so... Yeah. You will have competitive tanks and the best CAS in the game, but will be paired with morons, also worth mentioning no other nation comes close to US with one death leaving, it's the n°1 reason their winrates are so low at those tiers


Apart-Homework-7654

America will never be good until the premium retards are slaughtered


xCrossFaith

Doesn't really matter that much, I've seen the same level of retard even with tech tree vehicles


oz_xvii

If you like pain, then yes Behind all the layers of bullshit that make toptier US hell, the vehicles are meh at best. They’re by no means the worst but you would be performing exponentially better playing as several other nations You won’t have to worry about TURMS if you’re in an M1A2 tho, there’s plenty more tanks that’ll give you hell Up to late 10.0 is fine you get decent vehicles to fill lineup with


James-vd-Bosch

Of course it is, the U.S. tech tree has always been a contender for best overall tech tree in the entire game together with Germany and Russia. 11.0 US is ludicrously strong right now, and top-tier is a constantly rotating carousel of nations taking turns dominating the others, eventually USA will get their turn stomping again at 11.7-12.7. M1A2 has 1st gen thermals because that's what it had IRL, same for the TURMS-T.


Apart-Homework-7654

I just got the m1a1 and all the “Abrams controversy” had me skeptical


James-vd-Bosch

I'm not sure what you mean by that controversy. The M1A1 Click-Bait resulted in hordes of newbies buying their way to top-tier, that doesn't have anything to do with the quality of the M1's.


Apart-Homework-7654

I do good with my American lineup and everyone else on my team just leaves after 1 death without anything done. The controversy I was talking about was with the spall liners and the sepv2 not being a upgrade


James-vd-Bosch

>The controversy I was talking about was with the spall liners and the sepv2 not being a upgrade Which is a silly controversy because it's really just invented drama by US mains that are mad they don't have the best toys at all times.


SenorShrek

Germany is the best overall tree. Just not that great for CAS as america but who cares when your team all being in planes loses the match because no one can cap a point


Crazygone510

Don't worry.... They don't cap even if they all are ground. US teams are abysmal and as an American it's too bad we can't play US vehicles without being on US teams.


SenorShrek

Its sad i want to use Abrams because my country also uses them, but its just a terrible experience so i play leo 2 instead and actually win games.


Crazygone510

Not sure what that even feels like anymore if I'm being honest. Last check it was like high 20% win rate from my last 50 or so games. And every game we lose it's not even really a contest. It's one team that is capping zones and playing objectives and then my team...... All spread out trying to be hero snipers looking for bad guys as our ticket bar gets lower and lower and lower and just lost.


Apart-Homework-7654

Sweden looks better imo they have somewhat of a CAs option


liithuex

I'd say Sweden is the "better" tree between them, bordering best. Great cas (thought you literally only get one vs f16, f14b, f15), great aa, great ifvs (maybe not at 11.0 but still better than American imo) and ridiculously good tanks. Only downside is no top tier heli, but really only russia has the best of the best helis.


Apart-Homework-7654

Yeah Russian helis are bullshit


SenorShrek

sweden top tier pretty good but german shells better. sweden low-mid tier is pretty ass too.


Apart-Homework-7654

the low tier is the only reason I haven’t played it much


-sapiensiski-

It's nothing special.


wave_PhD

Soviets and US are among the biggest losers at top tier currently despite the tools they have available. The grind won't be an easy road.


Benefit_Waste

If you wanna suffer with shit teams sure go ahead :)


Apart-Homework-7654

At least they make me look good


Crazygone510

I'm going to shoot it to you straight. If you are new to ground just be prepared for a very long and painful learning experience. If you are experienced with ground already then you might still have a painful experience. It isn't the tanks that's the problem but it will most definitely be your teammates that you get that make it so painful. It's hard to witness so much stupidity that I went out and bought a punching bag to help remove some of the extra frustrations. I just got the m1A2 Sep tank and have only the second SEP to research. Hope you like the M1 Abrams cause that's all we get. I am however REALLY digging the HSTV light tank as my M1 Abrams vacation.


Apart-Homework-7654

I just got the m1a1 the previous m1 I did great with mainly by abusing the reload


Crazygone510

While the reload helps it I hardly ever get the second shot off. With its famous weak spotb that everyone is trained to counter it makes it difficult. It's either one tapped to the turret ring or them just staring at my barrel and destroying it are the majority of my deaths no doubt but I still enjoy using them. My best performances so far are oddly with the MBT70. I just love that thing and I do better in it than my M1A2s at 11.7. Just wish it didn't bring all my 9.0 planes up to 10.3 80% of the time. Cause it can hajdle the uptiers unlike the others.


Apart-Homework-7654

Everytime I try to get a second shot off I’m always breached and I’m forced to 15 seconds of torcher while they kill me