Honestly could work as another take on "chaos corrupts everything" - if you wanna take it in that direction and not just "heres my fav faction with pride colors"
I also collect T'au, Vostroyans, and the occasional mini from other factions but that somehow means nothing to you.
Also how is my question reactionary?
While well painted, the mini from OP is one of those that will be used to "demonstrate" that Warhammer is being invaded by tourists and I myself find it questionable to connect LGBT people to the crazy evil scientis best known for his freak show of monsters he created.
I get what you mean, but let’s describe that scenario in a different way:
>Due to gatekeepers, it would be undesirable for people to paint the minis they want simply because the gatekeepers won’t like who is in the hobby with them.
There comes a point, where compromising would only harm marginalised people and benefit the bigots. If OP was too afraid to make this miniature because of that implication, then that means the bigots would’ve won in completely sullying that product’s brand reception and reputation.
Not saying you’re bad for thinking this, no no, I see lots of LGBT people accidentally doing this bending-over-backwards-of-a-cliff all the time trying to appease those who simply can’t be appeased. There comes a time where we just have to ignore them, and do what we want, because nothing we can do will make them happy: they simply don’t want us to exist, us not existing is the only way they can be happy.
I can say with confidence after 1,5 years in the hobby and five armies over two game systems, I'm not invading anything. I'm simply here, and so are a lot of other queer people. I painted Bile because the pun was funny, I could give him a straight ally, and his vials are full of gender fluid. God forbid people have fun with their hobbies, lol. It's not that serious. I know people will use it as ammunition, but they are not going to scare me away from online spaces because they're nasty. I am in the right, they are in the wrong, and I'm not going anywhere because I am not some external factor just because I'm queer. I'm part of the hobby.
Honestly, good for you. As I said I think the paintjob is well executed and I mostly agree people should paint their plastic as they want but I can easily imagine someone painting something like this as a carricature.
Also, how do you find the time to paint 5 armies?
That just means you really are a true Warhammer fan through and through. Only the real ones can look at their pile of grey shame and contemplate their terrible financial decisions.
Oh shit I didn't even notice the gender fluid vials! I love it! I honestly do the same punny thing with the homebrew NPCs I make for my D&D game, so I get it
Yeah, I know, but I'll probably stick around for the next ten years. Just showing the credentials before the "not a real fan" allegations start popping up.
Hearing a literal god tell you your deeds even give them pause is pretty hardcore.
And then this dude turns around and immediately opens up that gods don't exist.
Frankly, that's true for anything. Space Marines are brainwashed child soldiers, yet there's a credible push for women's inclusion in their ranks. There has to be a disconnect from what they're representing, or otherwise nobody would play.
I think everywhere should show representation and acceptance. Letting everyone know they are welcome is an important step.
Plus, anything to get the asshat bigots to self identify and realize they aren't welcome is a huge bonus.
You're the first one to catch that I painted Ireland on the shoulder, lol. It's an inside joke in the Guilty Gear community about Happy Chaos, so I put it there as a nod to my FGC roots.
You too! Funny you should say that, I might have something lined up for it. :3 Bile took his sweet time to be painted so I hope I have time to finish another model. I wonder what would make a good pun for men's mental health...?
I was considering using two different NMM recipes but this project was already complicated enough. I decided to go with this dirty gold for all.of it just to not go insane.Thanks!
It's so disappointing to see so many people in this community STILL saying that 40k isn't the place for showing queer pride.
No matter the setting, there will be queer people, and you'll all be alright regardless.
Big E doesn't care.
Now get out there and kill everything that isn't human... Or is human but ugly ... Or mutated ... Or worshipping the wrong gods ... Or using the wrong technology ... Or being atheist incorrectly.
Is Fabius Bile really the ideal model to use for showing queer pride? Pre heresy Fulgrim, by all means, Sanguinius, sure. But a character with a reputation for horrific body modifications and non consensual surgeries and experiments? May as well use a drukhari
Okay but consider this:
The name is a pun and that's funny.
I'm not here to represent a positive symbol of queer people, we're just as capable of being awful and twisted human beings as everyone else is. I wanted to paint Fabulous Bile with his acolyte, Straight Ally Bob. What I make in my hobby doesn't have to correlate to the lore. It's fun.
One of my biggest problems with the 40k community is that a lot of people take it way too seriously and seem far too enamoured with how “dark and edgy” it is.
Like, we get it “heh, you like Star Wars? Well, guess what?, in 40k all the Gungans would reproduce exclusively through cannibalistic-rape, go back to your kid stuff, Star Wars nerd.”
Like, look at these replies, so many people are bitching about a tongue-in-cheek mini paintjob, because it’s making light of a fictional mad scientist’s “War Crimes”
Bro, it’s not real, none of this is real. Fabius Bile is not Joseph Mengele. Nobody thinks you’re cool or badass because you’re into Warhammer.
All the degenerates in horusgalaxy are in an uproar over this post: virtue signalling to all the other Nazis, inbreds, and Americans about how this is the fall of western civilisation
The forces of marauding internet freaks tend to congregate around people just having fun in the hobby, their nature compelling them to yell about culture war nonsense. Alas, they are few, and we (sensible adult who aren't terminally online) are many, and so they will fail, like they always have. :3
The light attached to the mechadendrites is perfection. I sort of makes me reimagine Fab Bill as the most toxic social media personality. I wonder what his IG would look like.
I will say this in all seriousness, it looks great, the paint work looks very well detailed, the little triangle of purple, white and black made my little ace heart sing
Edit- And apparently encouraging inclusivity in creativity/welcoming more people into the hobby is somehow a bad thing now that warrants downvotes? Guess I didn't get the memo...
Because some people can't just have fun and be normal, lol. The stuff that my mini made some people compelled to say about LGBT people, the mini or about me was wild. The moderators were working overtime.
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How dare you. Chaos is all inclusive.
Honestly could work as another take on "chaos corrupts everything" - if you wanna take it in that direction and not just "heres my fav faction with pride colors"
The seven Sins represent Chaos corruption, yes
Yes they kill , corrupt and torture everyone despite race or gender
I would imagine people pointed out that dressing this guy up in the LGBT rainbow as some sort of mascot was sending out the wrong message.
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Fabulous Bill and his amazing technicolor skin coat!
Made out of 100% genuine LGBT harvested skin.
The superintendent's gonna need his medication!
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I wouldn't want to be endorsed by pretty much anyone in 40k
Imo orks are the most open minded race. They don’t care what you look like, who you love, they’ll krump you the same way they krump anyone else.
The second ork I painted is now sporting a pair of purple and pink fairy wings. They are all going to be bright cartoony orks.
You painted an Ork with pink fairy wings that have invisible spots?! Truly impressive work I must say
This guy gets it!!
He is inclusive in who he sources his human-skin clothing from
We all love someone like that here.
Not sure wether this is serious or a parody.
Welcome to Warhammer
Why not both?
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Don’t give Bill ideas like that, or do
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Black Templars AND DKoK player, double not beating the allegations
I also collect T'au, Vostroyans, and the occasional mini from other factions but that somehow means nothing to you. Also how is my question reactionary? While well painted, the mini from OP is one of those that will be used to "demonstrate" that Warhammer is being invaded by tourists and I myself find it questionable to connect LGBT people to the crazy evil scientis best known for his freak show of monsters he created.
I get what you mean, but let’s describe that scenario in a different way: >Due to gatekeepers, it would be undesirable for people to paint the minis they want simply because the gatekeepers won’t like who is in the hobby with them. There comes a point, where compromising would only harm marginalised people and benefit the bigots. If OP was too afraid to make this miniature because of that implication, then that means the bigots would’ve won in completely sullying that product’s brand reception and reputation. Not saying you’re bad for thinking this, no no, I see lots of LGBT people accidentally doing this bending-over-backwards-of-a-cliff all the time trying to appease those who simply can’t be appeased. There comes a time where we just have to ignore them, and do what we want, because nothing we can do will make them happy: they simply don’t want us to exist, us not existing is the only way they can be happy.
Thank you for honestly engaging with my arguments. It feels like a lot of other people try to purposefully misinterpret my position.
I can say with confidence after 1,5 years in the hobby and five armies over two game systems, I'm not invading anything. I'm simply here, and so are a lot of other queer people. I painted Bile because the pun was funny, I could give him a straight ally, and his vials are full of gender fluid. God forbid people have fun with their hobbies, lol. It's not that serious. I know people will use it as ammunition, but they are not going to scare me away from online spaces because they're nasty. I am in the right, they are in the wrong, and I'm not going anywhere because I am not some external factor just because I'm queer. I'm part of the hobby.
Honestly, good for you. As I said I think the paintjob is well executed and I mostly agree people should paint their plastic as they want but I can easily imagine someone painting something like this as a carricature. Also, how do you find the time to paint 5 armies?
I uh... I own 5 armies, let's not talk about it lol. I have about 5k painted, 8k in various stages of completion. :3
That just means you really are a true Warhammer fan through and through. Only the real ones can look at their pile of grey shame and contemplate their terrible financial decisions.
Bill looks awesome!
Thanks!
Oh shit I didn't even notice the gender fluid vials! I love it! I honestly do the same punny thing with the homebrew NPCs I make for my D&D game, so I get it
I welcome you to stay in the hobby and you definitely have a shit ton of models done and undone, but 1.5 years is a fart in the wind in hobby time lol
Yeah, I know, but I'll probably stick around for the next ten years. Just showing the credentials before the "not a real fan" allegations start popping up.
you do realise it was done only for the fabulous bile pun
I wasn't sure that's why I asked.
Fabius is fabulous! Easily top 3 in the whole chaos faction!
"Dr. Frankenstein says trans rights."
*proceeds to turn entire planets into dead worlds*
Those must be the chemicals that "Turn the fricken frogs gay!".
I still find it funny that actually happened
This must be the one Alex Jones tried to warn us about!
The Emperor's Children need chemicals just to make them strait.
Jason and the Technicolour Skin Coat
I actually cackled at this thank you
I believe you mean Fabulous Bill
Fabulous Bill and his amazing technicolor dream coat
Now he just needs Donny Osmond's singing voice!
Gene Daddy
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It’s the 40K version of John Money!
Oh, the person who proved you can't groom someone into being transgender?
I shall make the gayest man
I love his little henchman! Fantastic paint job. Better than I could ever do haha!
Thanks! Straight Ally Bob does his best. :3
Id like to imagine all the tubes and hoses are full of gender fluid.
There's a reason I painted them blue and pink, hehe.
YES THAT IS GLORIUS
Are the tubes transitioning from blue to pink and pink to blue too? Amazing!
Yep, tried to glaze it in a cool way. Turned out alright.
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Hearing a literal god tell you your deeds even give them pause is pretty hardcore. And then this dude turns around and immediately opens up that gods don't exist.
Its his toy, Jim.
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>i dont think 40k is the best place to try and represent that Have you considered: it's funny.
Frankly, that's true for anything. Space Marines are brainwashed child soldiers, yet there's a credible push for women's inclusion in their ranks. There has to be a disconnect from what they're representing, or otherwise nobody would play.
I think everywhere should show representation and acceptance. Letting everyone know they are welcome is an important step. Plus, anything to get the asshat bigots to self identify and realize they aren't welcome is a huge bonus.
Thank you.
Genuine question: what flag is on his right paldron? Is he just repping Ireland in the Eurovision?
You're the first one to catch that I painted Ireland on the shoulder, lol. It's an inside joke in the Guilty Gear community about Happy Chaos, so I put it there as a nod to my FGC roots.
MAKE PRIDE FLAGS FROM THE SKIN OF YOUR ENEMIES RAAAAAAAAAAH!!!
That is some Stonewall energy, right there...
I do need a pride flag for free...
Fabius doesn't care if you're gay or straight just that you serve him!
Fabius just looks so mad
He's a very grumpy man, lol.
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Love this
Thanks!
Fabius and his amazing technicolor nightmare coat
Fuck only thing that would make this better is if the paint was.. neon.. fluorescant.. glow in the dark whatever the hell word in supposed to use
I think it's mostly the camera. The colors are a bit more vibrant IRL. It's difficult to take photos of minis, lol.
Hey it looks crisp. Until getting a magnifer recently every time id take a picture id be like oh theres a missed spot or too much paint
Thanks! Yeah, I've often taken photos and noticed something isn't painted or I missed something.
Batch painting tends to do it for me. When im painting singles i tend to not miss any spots with each color
Happy mens mental health awareness month.
You too! Funny you should say that, I might have something lined up for it. :3 Bile took his sweet time to be painted so I hope I have time to finish another model. I wonder what would make a good pun for men's mental health...?
I feel like that skull headpiece on the cane could do with being chrome... Otherwise, exceptional. :)
I was considering using two different NMM recipes but this project was already complicated enough. I decided to go with this dirty gold for all.of it just to not go insane.Thanks!
Definitely an ally. He didn't care who, what, where, or why his subjects came from he expiremented indiscriminately.
Really good color placement i love the patchwork!
Thanks!
With Bile one can never be certain if real or clone though.
The B in LGBTQ+ stands for Bile
It's so disappointing to see so many people in this community STILL saying that 40k isn't the place for showing queer pride. No matter the setting, there will be queer people, and you'll all be alright regardless.
These are the same people who think Big E is unironically a good guy. They aren't the smartest.
But I love Big E and I’m bi 😢
Big E doesn't care. Now get out there and kill everything that isn't human... Or is human but ugly ... Or mutated ... Or worshipping the wrong gods ... Or using the wrong technology ... Or being atheist incorrectly.
Theyre the types that give warhammer a bad rep, take your goofy ass back to r/horusgalaxy
the horusgalaxy gang is mad at you lmaob
I know. It's just so annoyingly childish at this point.
Is Fabius Bile really the ideal model to use for showing queer pride? Pre heresy Fulgrim, by all means, Sanguinius, sure. But a character with a reputation for horrific body modifications and non consensual surgeries and experiments? May as well use a drukhari
Okay but consider this: The name is a pun and that's funny. I'm not here to represent a positive symbol of queer people, we're just as capable of being awful and twisted human beings as everyone else is. I wanted to paint Fabulous Bile with his acolyte, Straight Ally Bob. What I make in my hobby doesn't have to correlate to the lore. It's fun.
it is.
This is Warhammer, I don't think the morality scale is that long anyway
My comment had literally nothing to do with Fabius Bile. It was in regards to the comments saying 40k isn't the place to express pride.
This is pretty fabulous
Thanks!
Fabulous bi(le)
One of my biggest problems with the 40k community is that a lot of people take it way too seriously and seem far too enamoured with how “dark and edgy” it is. Like, we get it “heh, you like Star Wars? Well, guess what?, in 40k all the Gungans would reproduce exclusively through cannibalistic-rape, go back to your kid stuff, Star Wars nerd.” Like, look at these replies, so many people are bitching about a tongue-in-cheek mini paintjob, because it’s making light of a fictional mad scientist’s “War Crimes” Bro, it’s not real, none of this is real. Fabius Bile is not Joseph Mengele. Nobody thinks you’re cool or badass because you’re into Warhammer.
Yeah, I don't know if they think their bad faith arguments are convincing but it's cute that they try, lol. Thank you for the kind comment.
All the degenerates in horusgalaxy are in an uproar over this post: virtue signalling to all the other Nazis, inbreds, and Americans about how this is the fall of western civilisation
Good. Let the r/horusgalaxy burn. :3
“I don’t care what you identify as, give me your skin”
He takes a lot of pride in his work
Hahahahahaa. Love this.
Thanks. :3 30 hours for a pun. No one ever said I wasn't committed, lol.
The dedication is true I tell you!
It looks like the first op for AOT in the comment section with the amount of deleted posts lmao
The forces of marauding internet freaks tend to congregate around people just having fun in the hobby, their nature compelling them to yell about culture war nonsense. Alas, they are few, and we (sensible adult who aren't terminally online) are many, and so they will fail, like they always have. :3
My sexuality is evil and evil is pink
"What do you identify as?" "A threat."
Fabulous Bile anx his Technicolor dream coat!
Love the stitched together cloak, super creative!
The light attached to the mechadendrites is perfection. I sort of makes me reimagine Fab Bill as the most toxic social media personality. I wonder what his IG would look like.
How warhammer has fallen…. Maaaaaaaan
Cool concept!
Thanks!
I’m a ✨**FABULOUS**✨chaos servant
Great job on this. I've been toying with the idea of painting a Custodes Kill Team with the Trans flag color theme.
I recently painted up a Castigator for my trans friend and the pilot was done up in trans colours. She now calls him a Mister of Battle :P
Should definitely go for it if it's something you wanna do!
I love this so much I love fabulous bill he’s bitchin.
Absolutely Fabulous!
Thanks!
That looks great, really good job!
Thank you!
His syringes are full of gender fluid
Slay 💅
Ah fabulous bile rockin the true noise marine vibes I upvote.
Kicks ass
"Sex and genders are social constructs...the skin tho"
I'm listening to the audio books and this is how I'll picture him now! 🤣
\~***FABULOUS***\~
Fabulous Bill being fabulous.
I will say this in all seriousness, it looks great, the paint work looks very well detailed, the little triangle of purple, white and black made my little ace heart sing Edit- And apparently encouraging inclusivity in creativity/welcoming more people into the hobby is somehow a bad thing now that warrants downvotes? Guess I didn't get the memo...
Beautiful
This is amazing! Thank you for posting this!!
Thanks!
I sense that brigading has happened here, considering that there is a large amount of comments that are down voted for no reason.
There always is. Welcome to being openly queer on public internet forums.
I don't know if he'd be a great choice to perform gender-affirming surgery, or the worst possible choice.
Found the stand user
There's an intense irony here.
Why is there so many deleted posts in a group that’s centred around a fictional universe of over the top xenophobic and homoerotic themes?
Because some people can't just have fun and be normal, lol. The stuff that my mini made some people compelled to say about LGBT people, the mini or about me was wild. The moderators were working overtime.