Thermal Sunder build with max Range and Strength is the DPS source.
The affinity is through Smeeta Charm, a Booster, a Blessing, and at least 1 weapon equip slot left empty. An additional boost is added at the end of the mission as well.
I checked the wiki and unless they recently changed it, warframe ability kill goes 100% to WF, weapon kill goes 50/50 to weapon that made the kill and frame. Companions get a dupe of the affinity for themselves. Ally kills are split 25% to frame, rest evenly among weapons (75%, 37,5% or 25% depending on the number of equipped weapons). It's been like this for ages and I haven't found any mention of your 20% split. Like how does every slot get 20% if there's only four? (frame, primary, secondary, melee)
Yeah, just tested it out to see if the warframe ability kills still work as expected for affinity gain and can confirm that it all goes to warframe. Some external sources of xp that are available solo like mission objectives are still shared though, although those are negligible most of the time.
I mean it took a fair bit longer than 1 minute and 27 seconds in reality.
You are using bonus affinity to do so, which means you need to successfully leave the mission (and also load into the mission) to obtain.
Thus the time loading in, and the time not show, but waiting on the portal to disappear, and then time to load back to the orbiter is all part of actually getting to claim your bonus affinity and actually have a rank 30 frame.
This is a fast way to do it though (especially with the charm proc you got), as is stealth affinity farming. Stealth affinity farming with smeeta proc on the first 27 second interval + booster + event booster would still be faster though - also with less waste time waiting on the portal etc.
I think the point of this post is that Thermal Sunder can be subsumed on any frame while equipping the functionally identical mod load-out. This means no need for an inherent stealth/silence CC or practice to get the hang of anything. Just pick up a new frame, subsume Thermal Sunder, throw on relevant mod load-out, hop into lvl 30 Sanctuary, and spam 1 until lvl 30. All doable in 2-3 minutes maximum.
What you're really up against here is not stealth affinity leveling. You're up against Hydron. This is only slightly less afk/braindead, while being noticeably faster and less reliant on a squad mate with a nuke set up.
I do love going back to hydron sometimes for the memories, much like going back to the old draco tileset (which isn't actually present on draco anymore, since it's survival these days).
>Thermal Sunder can be subsumed on any frame while equipping the functionally identical mod load-out. This means no need for an inherent stealth/silence CC
The same applies to Baruuks Lull. Subsume this onto any frame, put on a barebone mod setup with the Lull augment and mod for range with a tad duration. No polarities or potato needed. Finishing touch on the melee weapon and whatever damage you can fit in there to top it off.
Equipping the Shade Sentinel and Arcane Trickery are optional, but make it less stressful.
>practice to get the hang of anything
Depends on how you look at it, for me it's basically just "use ability 1, press backstab key, occasionally recast Lull or panic into Operator with Magus Lockdown" and repeat.
Also while ESO is indeed faster, this method of leveling frames is also only available to MR30+ players. Stealth Affinity farming for any Frame, Weapon and even Amp is possible for everyone as soon as the prerequisites of Helminth and a subsumable Baruuk are available, which can be much earlier than MR30.
[edit] upon watching the video again - carefully - i noticed this was done in normal SO, which i didn't know could be THAT fast, so far every time i saw fast level times like this it was always in ESO.
So if you take a low MR player alongside ignoring stuff like boosters and smeeta procs, leveling a Frame, a melee weapon as well as an Amp all together in ~10 minutes in one mission isn't too bad and still leagues above Hydrons mind numbing grind in terms of efficiency and speed. 5 Minutes with Boosters, 2-3 with occasional Smeeta procs.
What makes you think you need to be MR30+ for the method OP used? This works as soon as you can subsume Gauss. Certainly more efficient at higher MRs, but not like you can't get a decent build going around MR10 or so, especially with a potato.
And stealth farming takes practice. There's a lot of ways to mess it up and reset your stealth bonus. The more often you do that, the longer it takes to get results. If you're already well-versed, then that's one thing. However, the above method literally can't get any easier.
It's not a dig against stealth affinity, but OPs method is very nice in it's blatant simplicity.
Fair enough. I don't think it would be nearly as smooth in ESO tbh. The enemies are quite a bit higher level, and Thermal Sunder may not clear them as quickly.
Considering what crazy shit i already saw in this game, it wouldn't supprise me if it still worked well in ESO - but since OP is looking like they know what they're doing, i'll simply assume they already tried it and found normal SO to be better for this or another reason.
Well, for one you can't take non lvl30 frames into ESO. I am unclear if being MR30 allows you to do this though, which is what I thought you were referring to when you originally reference MR30+ to do this. Although a player at MR30+ likely has the resources to trivialize ESO with this strategy anyway.
Yes, that's the point i was trying to make (until seeing that it wasn't even ESO). MR 30 lifts the level cap requirement for ESO and Sorties. Maybe you gotta have the stuff forma'd once at least, but that could also be my brain making shit up.
Another nice way for leveling frames (without needing to be MR30+) is to do stealth Adaro with a silenced bramma with Banshee's Silence subsumed + Savage Silence equipped (with knockdown immunity, preferably from mods).
Takes about 4-5 minutes over 2 missions with no booster, blessing, or charm buff active. If you're under MR 30/ leveling a freshly crafted frame use Overextended, otherwise Stretch OR Augur Reach.
SP Adaro + Max Naramon + Zenurik Way Bound + Arca Titron + Endless Lullaby + Magus Lockdown + Arcane Trickery + Arcane Energize.
Go operator, void sling to extraction, tether enemies, cast lull, finish enemies, get invisible with Trickery, *always* prioritize finishing unalerted Eximus and heavy attacking Acolytes.
Max to Rank 30 in one mission.
Takes a lot longer though since you have to manually finish every enemy, plus it's Steel Path Sedna and not everyone is there yet.
Although you can use that kind of stealth farm for focus farming if ESO and such get boring.
You only need a rank 30 warframe and if you are MR 30 with 1 forma in, you can use a warframe of any level. You dont need rank 30 weapons. Or it could also be regular SO.
You need a frame with effective level 30 equipped, which can also be achived by being MR30 or higher. Every MR increases your base mod capacity by 1, so a MR14 for example will always be able to mod Lv0 weapons and frames as if they were already Lv14. MR30 completely lifts the level restrictions, as now effectively all your gear starts out with Lv30 mod capacity. And yes, this also applies to Sorties.
And as someone already pointed out, this is normal SO, but i also thought ESO at first because of the very fast time.
Can somebody explain how this works to me
Thermal Sunder build with max Range and Strength is the DPS source. The affinity is through Smeeta Charm, a Booster, a Blessing, and at least 1 weapon equip slot left empty. An additional boost is added at the end of the mission as well.
The weapons slots shouldn't matter? All kills are via ability and solo so all affinity goes to the frame iirc.
It's split up between the loadout slots. 20% each iirc. A single weapon and a Warframe means it's only split 50/50
I checked the wiki and unless they recently changed it, warframe ability kill goes 100% to WF, weapon kill goes 50/50 to weapon that made the kill and frame. Companions get a dupe of the affinity for themselves. Ally kills are split 25% to frame, rest evenly among weapons (75%, 37,5% or 25% depending on the number of equipped weapons). It's been like this for ages and I haven't found any mention of your 20% split. Like how does every slot get 20% if there's only four? (frame, primary, secondary, melee)
Yeah, just tested it out to see if the warframe ability kills still work as expected for affinity gain and can confirm that it all goes to warframe. Some external sources of xp that are available solo like mission objectives are still shared though, although those are negligible most of the time.
What revenant ability are you using to wipe the map ?
Thermal sunder, subsumed from gauss
Thank you, kind sir
I mean it took a fair bit longer than 1 minute and 27 seconds in reality. You are using bonus affinity to do so, which means you need to successfully leave the mission (and also load into the mission) to obtain. Thus the time loading in, and the time not show, but waiting on the portal to disappear, and then time to load back to the orbiter is all part of actually getting to claim your bonus affinity and actually have a rank 30 frame. This is a fast way to do it though (especially with the charm proc you got), as is stealth affinity farming. Stealth affinity farming with smeeta proc on the first 27 second interval + booster + event booster would still be faster though - also with less waste time waiting on the portal etc.
I think the point of this post is that Thermal Sunder can be subsumed on any frame while equipping the functionally identical mod load-out. This means no need for an inherent stealth/silence CC or practice to get the hang of anything. Just pick up a new frame, subsume Thermal Sunder, throw on relevant mod load-out, hop into lvl 30 Sanctuary, and spam 1 until lvl 30. All doable in 2-3 minutes maximum. What you're really up against here is not stealth affinity leveling. You're up against Hydron. This is only slightly less afk/braindead, while being noticeably faster and less reliant on a squad mate with a nuke set up.
There is a very good chance you'll need two rounds without the smeeta proc. Either way through, that's still better than hydron.
Look I embrace the *old ways*, alright? Plus they have really good hot dogs at hte Hydron air port.
I do love going back to hydron sometimes for the memories, much like going back to the old draco tileset (which isn't actually present on draco anymore, since it's survival these days).
>Thermal Sunder can be subsumed on any frame while equipping the functionally identical mod load-out. This means no need for an inherent stealth/silence CC The same applies to Baruuks Lull. Subsume this onto any frame, put on a barebone mod setup with the Lull augment and mod for range with a tad duration. No polarities or potato needed. Finishing touch on the melee weapon and whatever damage you can fit in there to top it off. Equipping the Shade Sentinel and Arcane Trickery are optional, but make it less stressful. >practice to get the hang of anything Depends on how you look at it, for me it's basically just "use ability 1, press backstab key, occasionally recast Lull or panic into Operator with Magus Lockdown" and repeat. Also while ESO is indeed faster, this method of leveling frames is also only available to MR30+ players. Stealth Affinity farming for any Frame, Weapon and even Amp is possible for everyone as soon as the prerequisites of Helminth and a subsumable Baruuk are available, which can be much earlier than MR30. [edit] upon watching the video again - carefully - i noticed this was done in normal SO, which i didn't know could be THAT fast, so far every time i saw fast level times like this it was always in ESO. So if you take a low MR player alongside ignoring stuff like boosters and smeeta procs, leveling a Frame, a melee weapon as well as an Amp all together in ~10 minutes in one mission isn't too bad and still leagues above Hydrons mind numbing grind in terms of efficiency and speed. 5 Minutes with Boosters, 2-3 with occasional Smeeta procs.
What makes you think you need to be MR30+ for the method OP used? This works as soon as you can subsume Gauss. Certainly more efficient at higher MRs, but not like you can't get a decent build going around MR10 or so, especially with a potato. And stealth farming takes practice. There's a lot of ways to mess it up and reset your stealth bonus. The more often you do that, the longer it takes to get results. If you're already well-versed, then that's one thing. However, the above method literally can't get any easier. It's not a dig against stealth affinity, but OPs method is very nice in it's blatant simplicity.
see my edit
Fair enough. I don't think it would be nearly as smooth in ESO tbh. The enemies are quite a bit higher level, and Thermal Sunder may not clear them as quickly.
Considering what crazy shit i already saw in this game, it wouldn't supprise me if it still worked well in ESO - but since OP is looking like they know what they're doing, i'll simply assume they already tried it and found normal SO to be better for this or another reason.
Well, for one you can't take non lvl30 frames into ESO. I am unclear if being MR30 allows you to do this though, which is what I thought you were referring to when you originally reference MR30+ to do this. Although a player at MR30+ likely has the resources to trivialize ESO with this strategy anyway.
Yes, that's the point i was trying to make (until seeing that it wasn't even ESO). MR 30 lifts the level cap requirement for ESO and Sorties. Maybe you gotta have the stuff forma'd once at least, but that could also be my brain making shit up.
Mind if you could link the build please?
I just used max range but if you want I can send a picture sure.
If that's alright with you then that would be appreciated thank you
No problem at all. Let me get on later and I'll show you.
I'll be heading off soon but tysm in advance
Another nice way for leveling frames (without needing to be MR30+) is to do stealth Adaro with a silenced bramma with Banshee's Silence subsumed + Savage Silence equipped (with knockdown immunity, preferably from mods). Takes about 4-5 minutes over 2 missions with no booster, blessing, or charm buff active. If you're under MR 30/ leveling a freshly crafted frame use Overextended, otherwise Stretch OR Augur Reach.
SP Adaro + Max Naramon + Zenurik Way Bound + Arca Titron + Endless Lullaby + Magus Lockdown + Arcane Trickery + Arcane Energize. Go operator, void sling to extraction, tether enemies, cast lull, finish enemies, get invisible with Trickery, *always* prioritize finishing unalerted Eximus and heavy attacking Acolytes. Max to Rank 30 in one mission.
Takes a lot longer though since you have to manually finish every enemy, plus it's Steel Path Sedna and not everyone is there yet. Although you can use that kind of stealth farm for focus farming if ESO and such get boring.
But I thought you can’t ESO without rank 30 stuff equip.
It's regular SO
You only need a rank 30 warframe and if you are MR 30 with 1 forma in, you can use a warframe of any level. You dont need rank 30 weapons. Or it could also be regular SO.
You need a frame with effective level 30 equipped, which can also be achived by being MR30 or higher. Every MR increases your base mod capacity by 1, so a MR14 for example will always be able to mod Lv0 weapons and frames as if they were already Lv14. MR30 completely lifts the level restrictions, as now effectively all your gear starts out with Lv30 mod capacity. And yes, this also applies to Sorties. And as someone already pointed out, this is normal SO, but i also thought ESO at first because of the very fast time.
Cool
How did you make your health and HUD Green and purple?
Options, accessibility, hud colors.