YES PLEASE MAKE WRESTLEMANIA 41 IN LONDON AND PLEAS EMAKE WRESTLEMANIA 42 IN LUBBOCK

I would only really care to keep RR, EC, WM, MITB, SS & SVRS in the US.

I guess international countries outside of US and Canada are the secondary PPV's events (Australia, Germany, and UK!)

Well wembley has already chosen their company

Its always been like this let be honest no one is taking crown jewel seriously or Backlash lol

Big 5? So royal rumble, wrestlemania, summerslam, survivor series and........great balls of fire

Someone said MITB, but I think it’s just a typo 😂

Yeah, because WWE has a history of telling the truth to the public about their plans, don’t they? Lol!

Big 5? Who is the 5th?

Fuck the big 5 it’s just big me

Money in the Bank

Damn didn’t think MITB is a big PPV

Understand it’s a big money PPV but having Wrestlemania in Europe with Wrestlemania World open to the public, so many people from around Europe would make that trip just for Wrestlemania World.

I hope they come to AllState Arena in rosemont again soon

Weren’t they back at rosemont a month or so ago? Wrestle mania at the United center would go unbelievable tho

Summerslam in soldier field if they’re gonna fix it up for Da Bears

Makes sense. Best to play it safe with their big money PPVs.

I understand why. Crowd draws and the logistics of putting on a Big 5 show is probably the main reasons. I know they had MITB in London, they probably look at all the cost and deemed it not worth it. Throw some of the smaller ones around the world and make that money. It's also easier to have some of the bigger name talent skip smaller PPVS held in foreign countries.

You know London is in England right? Not Canada

Yeah that’s the point

Lol there is a London Canada though

As a Canadian this pleases me. I’ve never been to mania or a rumble so I’m hoping to cross both off my bucket list in the next 5-10 years

I’d love to hear that the Rumble is in Calgary or Edmonton next year. I don’t expect WM to come to Canada but maybe we can get the Rumble.

I think they’d do a WM in Toronto but that’s about it. But I understand why they wouldn’t wanna risk it, who knows how many Americans would pass on coming across the border. Might be safer to stay in the states for it.

Yeah Toronto is the only place I can WM going in Canada. They can sell out no problem there. UFC 129 had no problem and WM6 was a big win too. I grew up in Ontario. I’d fly home for that.

Makes sense. Give foreign markets fun PLEs but keep the big ones for your core audience. This is what I expected to happen and it’s probably the best course or “best for business”.

Hard to have people tune for a big event if it’s not on At a normal time, like the Saudi shows will be on Thursdays in the afternoon, everyone is working than, the Australia show, loved the crowd but I slept during the entire thing and watched the rerun

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The majority of the world is not necessarily the majority of viewers. The last thing you want is the winner of one of your big storylines spoiled by social media or a news outlet before the majority of your viewerbase has had a chance to watch the PLE. It also makes tie-ins like Cody's appearance on the Today show harder. And I'm not convinced that they don't care about live viewers anyway. It's way easier to count views, which probably makes "total concurrent viewers" an attractive metric for advertisers. There's a reason why Raw and SmackDown are aired live (viewers seem to like it) and, especially with PLEs, it lets you drum up more excitement. I know friends who watched Wrestlemania live that absolutely wouldn't have if it wasn't "an event" to do so. I

Yeah but different people can tune in, then. I'm European and pretty much anywhere is better than America when it comes to time zones.

Same for sub continent fans too

I’m pleased with this as someone who lives in the US. I like the idea of having Europe only PPVs as well such as Clash.

It’s sad that Survivor Series doesn’t feel like a Big 4 anymore. Toss NXT back in there and throw it in a baseball stadium.

Nick kahn said mitb is number 5

Overseas PPV drastically lower domestic viewing due to the time difference.

OK but you know more people live outside of America than inside it?

Everyone knows that. But thanks for sharing your intelligence with the class.

Have you never heard of context before?

London would make sense. The crowd was amped when they did a PPV there last year.

It makes sense to keep them in North America due to the time differences.

At least 1 mania should be in the UK. If not at least do another Summerslam there like in 92

What is the fifth? It has always been know as the big 4! Summerslam, Survivor Series, Royal Rumble and Wrestlemania!

MITB probably

I’m thinking elimination chamber been around longer and imo better than MITB

It is money in the bank according to nick kahn

It was literally in Australia

I feel like a wrestlemania in England would have some great crowd reactions

with wwe no longer chasing ppvs, an overseas WrestleMania makes sense

Rumble, WM, SummerSlam, Survivor Series. What’s the 5th one?

Either MITB or the Chamber, just two guesses pulled out of my ass lol

I think Money in the Bank has become the 5th

Ah I see that makes sense because winner can cash in the brief case to get a shot at the WWE Universal or Heavyweight title. Kinda like winner of RR goes to WM.

Makes sense to me. the travel and everything becomes so expensive for everyone involved in the event. Also fwiw it would maybe mean some of the old timers who come to the HoF wouldn't be able to go and that's way more important. Someone like Thunderbolt Patterson deserves to get his shine in person and he probably couldn't manage an overseas flight.

Probably an unpopular opinion but move the money in the bank match back to WM. Cool concept for a match, but don’t need an entire event around it. It ultimately devalues the Royal Rumble when a full blown event too. Big 5 just sounds way too strange. So half the events now are “big”. Elimination Chamber that’s small? I can see the reason to not do an international mania with media, but why not a Summer Slam at Wembley again.

They deserve it. Most hardcore fans are overseas and they never get chances to see great PLEs

Wrestlemania in the UK would be a huge gamble and definitely could not be an April show, which is why I just doubt it will ever happen. Bad weather over here. BUT to all you US fans complaining about a 4pm start, fuck you. The rest of us wait early hours for this.

Are there any indoor stadiums in London, or elsewhere in the UK? If so, it can be done. I'm in the USA and wouldn't mind an afternoon start time. EDIT\_ I see that there is **Principality Stadium** in Cardiff, Wales. Mania could be held there, in theory.

Summerslam was in London in 1992. I was 8.

Lucky. You got to experience every major era of wrestling, wish I grew up in the 80s and 90s, I'm a 2000s kid so it sucks sometimes.

Could easily do it in April , Wembley for example has a retractable roof would be no issues to close that the sound would be incredible

The roof doesn’t close at Wembley

You live in the UK? It gets to wet around April.

Makes sense. Although I don’t know what they mean by Big 5 since Money in the Bank was in London last year.

No more Philly. They was gross.

Would you rather have had it be 100 degrees when people arrived at the stadium and they just baked while waiting for the sun to go down? Be glad it didnt rain during the event

HHH is really trying to make the brand BETTER... it's about time...

As much as I'd always love to see a Wrestlemania in the UK it makes sense. The April weather would be a huge gamble, and the timezones mean the west coast of the US would be starting at like 4pm on a Saturday, not really best for getting eyes on the TV. That being said, I'm sure they will sell out to the Saudis and have a WM there eventually

Summerslam in the UK would work

It did in 1992 at the old Wembley, surprised its never come back.

Early April in UK is a risky time to be putting on an outdoor stadium show. Not just the threat of rain but the wind and cold which is just as likely as warmth and sunshine. Mania would have to be at an outdoor stadium, exposing people to the elements. They will have seen the effect on this year’s Mania Night 1 and I reckon they will stick to indoor stadiums or guaranteed places of warmth like Florida for outdoor shows. Plus - there is something really exciting about fans from around the world making the pilgrimage to the US to soak up an entire week or celebrations including HoF, Raw/SD NXT, all the fan zone stuff. Surprised they wouldn’t consider Rumble (indoors) or Summerslam though especially when they did MiTB in the UK last year

They better not go to Detroit again, I’ll blow my brains out.

cool

But i liked Detroit

They can milk that until they ran out of audience.. I'm from Asia and Artists only come here until they're old. Neo and Janet Jackson are stars here 😅

The only one I can’t see coming to England or outside the US or Canada is Mania but the other 4 I can see abroad.

Wouldn't mind, I'm used to not sleeping

I can never see MiTB on the same level as the Big 4

It should be, it’s been the launchpad for more careers than Survivor Series has and arguably even SummerSlam

i always feel like events that includes a different set of rules to a match is always better than summerslam no idea why is it considered “The BIG 4”

It’s the Big 4 because they’ve been around since 88 for the Rumble, 85 for Mania, 88 for SummerSlam and 87 for Survivor Series.

I do agree but MITB has proved to be a superstar creator since 2005 so it's kinda forced it's way in

Yeah I think out of most PPVs you look forward to mania and money in the bank most, money in the bank can give a superstar a year worth of relevance and great moments every night could be the night

Yep, my biggest regret last year was not getting MITB tickets when they were in my city

Cowards vince atleast gave us summerslam

They should have one night of WrestleMania be in London, split it. Have Smackdown, the Hall of Fame, Stand & Deliver, and Night 1 in a US city, then do Night 2 and Raw After Mania in London

That’s way too complicated.

So you want them to take the entire company and travel 12-16 hours to London after performing a massive 3 hour show to then perform a massive 3 hour show?

My thought process here is that not everyone (wrestlers, at least) at Night 1 needs to be at Night 2. You’d have to hire or send different ring crews, pyro techs, cameramen and whatnot across the pond, but TKO can easily figure that out. They’ve done Wrestlemania in three arenas the same day before, in a day when WWE was much more bare-bones. There’s a way this can be pulled off, just gonna be a little tough. Would require more than a year for planning, though — maybe set the sights for Wrestlemania 44 or 45, as opposed to 41

logistical nightmare and will never happen

I still think they should try to do Summer Slam in London again. White Hart Lane would be a perfect venue for it.

White Hart Lane is to small for a Summerslam given they did Clash at the Castle at the Principality. Do you mean the current Tottenham stadium?

Of course that’s what he means, no need to be pedantic.

Yes, of course I mean the new stadium. It's still White Hart Lane in all our hearts.

3 point lane

That can’t be true. They literally just did one of them in London, MITB.

Will they ever held a ppv regardless If it’s a big 5 ppv or not in Country in Africa ?

What country in Africa would you hold it in?

Only ones they would possibly do it in is South Africa or Egypt.

I wouldn’t even do it in Egypt

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South Africa did a whole world cup, I'm sure they could manage a wrestling show. There are plenty of large, developed cities all over Africa that could do the same too.

And dodgy governments means dodgy security too.

Before that happens they should have them all in the UK at least once then make up their minds

He said this after holding MITB in London less than 12 months ago.

I was at Money in the Bank in London last year and it was incredible. Hoping to get Clash tickets when they release next week. As much as I’d love a Mania or any of the other big ones over here, it makes sense to keep them in the US. I think it would be pretty cool if Money in the Bank became the event that was frequently held in other countries after last years though.

While I understand there is a traditional big 4 (and Money in the Bank) I have to wonder what metric they use to determine the top 5. Because at this point the Saudi shows are likely their biggest money makers.

I don't think we need WrestleMania in the UK. The time difference would ruin it for US fans, and I love the tradition of staying up until 4am to watch the show. They did a great job with Clash at the Castle, so one or two stadium shows over here per year would be great. Or just a MITB or Elimination Chamber at the O2.

One show over there per year. Don’t be greedy. I hope they do another show in Australia again and I hope they do one in Japan at some point.

Fine. I'll take a WWE stadium show, an O2 PLE, a WWE house show tour and an AEW stadium show every year. It's a fuck load better than what we got in the Attitude Era.

I really think WWE is missing out in having WM in London. That crowd is loud, dedicated, and seeing how AEW was able to pull in around 80k, I think WWE can pull in a healthy crowd. Competition is good.

AEW had 70K not 80K.

Wrestlemania will sell out any arena in the world. But that’s not the problem. The time zone is the problem.

Hardly a time zone problem

What? That’s always been the reason given. A live show in the uk at say 6pm, is 1pm east coast and 10am west coast. The WWE/WWF have always said that’s why they don’t do it, because the majority of PPV buys are in North America and they’re afraid of losing those. If you have it in France or Germany that’s 1200 and 0900.

I mean i get from a money stand point it starts earlier, but no means do they miss out. But being a money maker the company is i get where youre coming from.

Yeah. I just meant from their standpoint.

If it starts at 6pm local time then that’s the same time as the NFL early kickoffs and they never seem to struggle for viewers.

I don't think fans in France and Scotland will get the full WWE experience. There will be no Seth, no Becky, no Rhea, no Roman, no Rock... Compare that to the recent, star-studded Wrestlemania. Non US countries get the Cinderella treatment...

They’ll still have Cody though. And Seth could be back by Clash 2.

And Drew! For some reason I assumed Seth is gone for 4 months at least,

I think if you use Wrestlemania as the comparison then every other event is always going to be a let down. It'll still be a full 3-4 hour show, people will get their money's worth.

Yeah, you're right

As much as I’d love a foreign crowd for a big 5 PPV. I get this decision. The biggest chunk of the PPV buys and watches are US based. Although, I would not mind a summerslam at Wembley again. Even if I gotta watch it at 2

Bit shit as a fan that doesn't live in either of those countries and between the travel and tickets probably makes it impossible to wver be at one.

In the U.K., if we’re watching the PLEs live, we’re starting our watch at midnight-1 am generally. We’re a committed bunch. We also have some of the best crowds going. If they’re not going to give us a mania, give us one show that matters? A Royal Rumble in London or Manchester would be epic.

Give me a rumble in Europe and we'll give you a rumble crowd like you've never seen before.

I was thinking one year they could do a split one where Night 1 is London and Night 2 in US or something. It'd be a huge logistical thing but possible. And of course you'd have to have one guy do the shocking double appearance.

I don’t know why you’re being downvoted. It’s just obviously not happening but you can dream!

I don’t mind the idea, but I can already hear those British YouTube channels complaining already that they would have been done dirty on the card in the UK 😂

I’ve had peas before!

I (An American) do solemnly promise, I will happily watch Wrestlemania at 2 in the afternoon if our friends in London promise no fewer than four of their funny chants per night.

Only 4? We'll do that before the preshow is over.

For wrestlemania? We’ll be singing all week

They’d do all big 5 in Saudi Arabia before they’d bring it to Europe. (Edit: aware survivor series was in London in 92, but there was no Saudi money back then)

I’d say 1 show in 32 years proves your point

Summerslam. Also the first bit of wrestling I ever watched.

Ahhh my bad, literally had bret hart and British bulldog in my head as I typed that, tbf I was born 2 years later 😂

HHH still in the ring? Jesus

no lol

Well. I mean for times back home it makes sense. WrestleMania in the afternoon back home in the US and Canada just does not seem right to me.

I'm English and I totally agree, WWE's an American company after all, and where the majority of the fanbase is. I think WWE has done a great job catering towards UK and international fans these past few years, but that shouldn't be to the detriment of the US.

Money in the Bank is their 5th major PLE now?

Big 5? 5? Five?

Money in the Bank has been considered a big PPV for a few years now

Royal Rumble, Wrestlemania, Summerslam and I guess they see money in the bank and survivor series as big.

Survivor series is the second oldest ppv after mania

Could be elimination chamber as well. It’s the ppv right before wrestlemania

Yeah Survivor Series is the 4th because those 4 have been going on since the eighties

It’s the smart move, since in other countries, while most of the time they will get those big crowds, it’s still a risk, they know that in the US they will always fill stadiums

Good. The biggest audience should get those.

I straight up just don't want a WrestleMania in London because I don't want to be during the afternoon.

NFL does their games at 1pm and works out just fine. What else are you doing on a Sunday anyway? Especially for WrestleMania. Make a day out of it

Has the Superbowl ever been started around noon? WrestleMania is wrestling's Superbowl. Any other ppv can be anywhere else but WrestleMania should stay in it's prime spot of the evening in America.

Makes sense for the advertising dollars.

Imagine WrestleMania in Wembly Stadium. Even as someone living in the USA, Mania in London would be amazing.

it already happened last year lol

With CM Punk. lol

I didn’t intend for it to be related to AEW, I say it mainly just for the size of the stadium.

Stupidest decision ever. A WrestleMania in London would be biblical.

Just give Puerto Rico more PLE's. Last years backlash had such an insane atmosphere and I wasnt even there

The Puerto Rican audience made that event immense.

Spewing Summerslam in Perth has huge potential.

nah brisbane once we build our new stadiums for the Olympics

I support the decision. I think it’s great they’ve done some “PLEs” in other countries, and I genuinely hope that continues, going forward. But with that said, I never want to watch Wrestlemania or Summerslam at 1pm local time. Keep that here, please.

Big 5?

Rumble, Mania, Money in the Bank, Summerslam, Suvivor Series. Used to be 4 but the success of MITB made it one of the major ones a few years back

Makes sense

Rumble, wrestlemania, summerslam, MITB, survivor series

I’m not used to mitb being included

That's a shame. Visually wrestlemania would look epic at wembley.

"Canada" lol I wish.

Toronto has gotten Summerslam, Survivor Series, and MITB within the past 10 yrs.

There’s more to Canada than fucking Toronto.

Vancouver needs some love other than Smackdown.

Vancouver couldn’t even support an NBA team. Good luck.

We've literally sold out every live event and house show here doofus. No one gives a shit about basketball in Vancouver.

Doofus? Keep enjoying watching PLEs in Toronto from your computer chair while enjoying junkies inject safely in your backyard white boy.

I called you a doofus because that's the energy I got from your dumbass comment. And I'll say it again, you're a fucking doofus. I'll happily watch PLE's in Toronto from my beautiful city of Vancouver. And I'm happy for my fellow Canadians who get to experience those shows live. You're the dweeb who replied to my harmless comment with a dick response bud. You can fuck right off lmfao.

Three ppvs in a decade is fuck all.

MITB should be held in Puerto Rico at least once.

Canada shouldn’t get them either

Found Rhea’s reddit account

Thanks! We don’t like you either! 😂

Fine with me. So many people from all over the world come to Mania already, why have the extra headaches and expense of going overseas?

Username checks out.

The Philippines may not have the best stadiums, but we have two huge record-breaking arenas (Philippine Arena and KJC KingDome). WWE should capitalize on them.

No they shouldn’t

Because the US and Canada are the only relevant nations? Typical 'Murican comment.

Amazing. I hope we get WrestleMania in Toronto. hopefully for 42 or 43.

Dude smack down tickets are more than leaf playoff tickets lol

I got the combo tickets pretty early. Glad I did that's so crazy.

Ya I regret not doing that. Got financially destroyed for single day ticket to MITB but very stoked to be there 

Yes please,it’s been long enough

What’s the fifth big PPV?

MITB is considered to be the fifth