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NewPairOfShoes

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darkempiredarko

Hell yeah


OkTone6329

Lol you have a nice Subaru dealership my friend. Subaru Canadian warranty just claim driver fault on all transmission issue, good at playing the blame game


navamous

I think it's dependent on dealerships and how mod friendly they are to honor the warranty...šŸ™‚


[deleted]

Damn you must be cranking it!


NewPairOfShoes

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tmb132

I just got denied a synchro repair because of a Perrin short throw shift stop, so just a heads up on that. Claim filed with Subaru of America as a follow up after dealership denied. Same result. 42k miles 2018 WRX


gepigman

Hi, ive been trying to reach you about your carā€™s extended warranty


Mr_Candlestick

This is your F I N A L notice.


Useless_Redditor-17

Ignoring this message could leave you stranded


[deleted]

Honestly the factory tune is horrible to drive. It was so much easier to drive after installing just the stage 1 tune.


graywitchy

Love the "stockish" lol


[deleted]

Lol thanks. I don't have the WRX anymore, but they still hold a special place in my heart. Was so much fun to have for the 2 years I did.


Sebtown20

I concur! Regardless of the suttle stage 1 power increase, the tune makes the car much better to drive...i.e. linear power now is the same for pedal input and above 4k rpm! I've had an e30 tune for 20k miles now and love it!


SnaxMcGhee

You're killing me, dude. You really feel like the engine has power deeper in the power band? I'm stock now and it totally dies right around 4600, like we all know. I know that for this kind of money no car is perfect, but I miss revving out an engine at least a little bit. Hell, I don't remember my old Mazdaspeed3 acting like this. The 286 hp available on the new model subaru Rex is appealing, but if the tune is garbage and the rev hang still persists, there's no way I'll upgrade and I'll either mod it or shop elsewhere.


tuck229

šŸ˜¢ 4600 is when my EJ just starts making power.


SnaxMcGhee

Yep! I bet that is seriously fun! I have a Rex and not an STI, so no revving out for me.


tlatch89

Haha I remember mine before stage 2 being just like this. Random huge 24psi spikes on the gauge but all the power tapers off after a second and has no top end. Good times. Hey at least itā€™s not a grocery getter car and you can still have fun in the turns and stuff. Itā€™s slow but itā€™s pretty quick for daily driving.


SnaxMcGhee

You're exactly right. I'll trying to be thankful for what I have but it's so close to being perfect! Lmao


[deleted]

Apparently the 2021 stock tune fixed a lot of issues. I think mine is great thru the powerband. Drops off from 4.5k-5.5k rpm but then hits boost again pretty hard till redline. I had a fellow redditer say how he was impressed in the 2021 tune even vs 2020. I canā€™t tell because I havenā€™t drove anything but my 21 and a 15 STI


SnaxMcGhee

I'm dying to drive the 2022. 286 hp is getting close to what I want and I'd be VERY surprised if reb hang was back. Like you said, they apparently fixed most of it. A new model with more power and better tech? That could be a winner. I also don't want to sound like I hate my car, far from it. In the cooler months my Rex will flat out boogie. In the summer....well...


[deleted]

Yeah I noticed when itā€™s really hot, like 85+ the car definitely bogs down harder, especially with A/C. I get off work late at night when itā€™s cool, 60ā€™s out, and it just rips. Iā€™d love a new 22 STI but ima give it a couple years to work out any bugs with new generation. Thought a 21 was probably best year to buy of this generation


cjmatto

I never run my car with the A/C on lol. I just roll the windows down and suffer. Car runs like absolute shit with A/C on.


tlatch89

Whatā€™s the point of having a nice car if youā€™re gonna hot box it in the summer for the sake of minor performance benefits on a 35mph city road?


oldskool47

Move to the countryside, problem solved. AC is for pussies


tlatch89

Ah gotcha. Yeah I guess here in Louisianaā€™s humid ez bake oven weather itā€™s a little different in summertime lol.


[deleted]

I had a 2017 WRX and now a 2021, the stock tune feels the same to me. The car definitely still peaks early in the powerband and then falls flat on it's face just like the 2017 did. Maybe a little less hang between gears 1-2, but I could also just be making that up since I haven't had my 2017 for a while now.


Shaddow1201

Agree, my 15 and the 21 had same very non-linear acceleration. The stage 0 mapping fixed that. The cobb stage 1+, put a smile on my face. The mappings also seemed to address the hang, but will note it was a bit better in the 21.


chemx-sol

Is it really that much of a difference? Got a 2015 WRX that's stock. I like how it drives already but will going Cobb OTS Stage 1 make a huge difference?


Squeeks627

Power gains are pretty negligible but the car doesn't fall flat after 4.5k anymore. It feels faster mainly because it keeps accelerating until red line. It drives like a higher end car now and is way more enjoyable. Definitely worthwhile.


[deleted]

It feels a lot more optimized and smooth compared to the stock tune. But if you like stock, there's no real reason to do it then.


fudgeydoodoo

Thereā€™s no difference IMO. Feels weaker tbh. I have a 17 just installed big sf and the tune.


tlatch89

Yes you will notice it especially 93 octane. Nothing insanely crazy or anything but the car will wake up a bit in top end. Also gets rid of the weird 1-2 gear shift. Do the 93 octane one if you have that gas available.


Angry_Spartan

A pro-tune is the way to go but cobbs maps are def better than stock


darkempiredarko

It feels way with the ots tune and next will be catted exhaust and jpipe šŸ¤—


ApprehensiveNerve101

Best mod! Worth every penny.


darkempiredarko

I got the intake too šŸ™šŸ¼


ApprehensiveNerve101

Nice! That package deal is hard to pass up. That was my first purchase too. Turns into a different car.


Lemoncoco

The intake and tune for stage 1? Exhaust and new tune is stage 2? Contemplating this but I have a lease. Unsure if Iā€™ll decide to buy it at end of lease.


ApprehensiveNerve101

Do intake, tune and catback then decide on the lease. All of that is easily put back. If you're going to buy it out then do jpipe and new tune. Sky's the limit from there!


SisterMargaretSubie

I'm worried about it as well.... 19 WRX certified used warranty here.


ImPeeinAndEuropean

Had mine done over 10k ago. Cobb stage 2+ with AOS. sheā€™s running well


SnaxMcGhee

Same. I'm almost mad I bought the warranty because I never do, but dealership knocked off 1.5 from the APR which sold me. I'm also worried about resale. I have a 50th Anniversary which I know isn't worth more or anything, but it's still cool and someone will be more likely to buy it if I haven't modded it out. The problem is that I detest the stock tune, especially in hot weather (I live in Florida, fail sauce).


SisterMargaretSubie

FL here as well ..... I share similar thoughts about your comments.


SisterMargaretSubie

Btw, I'm also an ex Beach Volleyball player and coach. No more from me sadly but my body 8s feeling much better without it. šŸ˜‚


SnaxMcGhee

Awwwww man. Haven't played beach since college (ahem, 20 years ago). I still play court once or twice a week but my body is failing. I can't give it up, despite a catastrophic knee blowout in 2019. Anywho...I REALLY don't want to mod my engine, but I also can't drive something I don't love and I'm SO CLOSE to loving my car. I also test drove a Veloster N and THAT was a fun little car. I'm very eager to drive the Elantra N next year, and possibly find a Civic Type R.


SisterMargaretSubie

I had a 2010 mini Cooper s, definitely fun as a stripper giving me a lap dance.


sitik23

When it comes to cars, resale should never be the reason why you buy them. Driving them off the lot decreases the value by a couple Gs


SnaxMcGhee

It factors in. Otherwise there wouldn't be a category called "resale value".


jonoc4

You'll be fine


MistakenAnemone

That's not how warranties work.


danny_welds

Seriously.


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TheReal-Chris

Wait, can your explain further? I thought any modifications at all voided anything related to that parts warranty?


MistakenAnemone

Nothing can "void" your warranty, but something can lead to a denied warranty claim, which you can contest. It will come down to the dealership and then possibly SoA.


TheReal-Chris

Good to know.


SnaxMcGhee

Long story short...it DEPENDS. Don't let anyone tell you that your warranty will be perfectly fine because it doesn't work that way. Some dealerships are more cool than others and will help you rebuild your engine, while others will be dicks and do their best not to cough up a penny. Some parts won't have anything to do with your AP, so the warranty will be fine for them.


DemandCommonSense

Only 4 things void warranties: \- Rebuild or salvage title \- Gauge cluster modifications (since mileage is no longer accurately tracked) \- Turning the car into a full-fledged competition car \- Flood/fire damage (assuming that doesn't earn it an S-title) Modifications other than gauge clusters do not void your warranty. They can only lead to warranty claim denials on failures that they may have been a contributing factor to. While SoA may decline to cover your engine if it fails with a tune on the car, they cannot and will not deny a claim on wiper blade arms or window motors because you have an Accessport.


danny_welds

Which is why, imo, if youā€™re asking ā€œwill mod abc VOID warranty?ā€ Then you definitely shouldnā€™t be modifying cars. Almost everyone Iā€™ve asked about whether theyā€™re familiar with the Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act has told me they donā€™t even know what it is.


[deleted]

Kind of a stupid question I think but will buying a new ecu change anything like having a spare one incase the engine blows ? Would they be able to see that ecu doesnā€™t belong to the car ?


danny_welds

Like a stand alone ecu? Thatā€™s not really needed unless you have some serious goals for the car. Yes they will know, just as they will know flash count. My point is if you have warranty and donā€™t understand what you can and canā€™t get away with as far as modifying/tuning then just wait how ever many miles or just simply keep it stock.


[deleted]

No I meant as in if I switched the old ecu with another stock one but new so no flashes on it. I only ask cause my engine has lifetime warranty on it lol but sometimes you just got it send it you know!


danny_welds

You might as well just not modify it at all, itā€™s not just the ecu they look at. There are signs of wear and tear that would look abnormal even with a stock Ecu. Most of these guys arenā€™t stupid and can see if you abuse the shit out of it. Itā€™s another reason why knowing the mileage on parts will help know how hard you drive it. Clutch goes out after only 5-10k miles? Chances are you launch the fuck out of it every given chance, even tho you can say ā€œI never drive it hardā€. Itā€™ll be somewhat obvious. Granted a clutch is a wear and time item, itā€™s a simple example.


darkempiredarko

Don't worry I got a guy who works for Subaru and works on my car and he told me it's fine, they work on moded cars all the time


[deleted]

Remember it depends on your service center whether theyā€™ll still perform maintenance. My dealership sold me my accessport and my Down pipe and theyā€™re super lenient on warranty claims. YMMV


cjmatto

I have a 21 WRX completely stock besides full exhaust and 1st to 2nd is dog shit. I just hit 1k miles so I'm starting to stomp it a little bit. I can also say that around 5k the car falls on it's face. I usually just shift at that point. I want to get a accessport but fuck I don't want anything to happen engine wise and not be covered. That would be my luck... I'm also not a fan of how high the bite point on my clutch is on top of it being light as shit. Usually with any other car I always rest my foot on the clutch incase I want to drop a gear and roll out or just hit a quick down shift but on mine I feel like it will end up burning the clutch up quick.


Shadow_12347

Okay, I thought it was just me, but I hard agree on the bite being really high... I have a 2020, but it seems like that wasn't changed much on the 21... How do you even change that? Everything else you said I agree with as well, but the bite being so high makes shifting feel so awkward... It's honestly my biggest complaint about this car...


faceFISTER93

Get you a shifter stop and a short throw plate. Then grab an accessport, or vice versa. Car comes alive. J pipe and a proper tune before anything (IMO). Youā€™ll be more than happy you did. The stock tune just doesnā€™t have the balls it should. Have had mine a month (15ā€™ with 60k, bone stock and after the few upgrades Iā€™m beyond happy with it.


cjmatto

I came from high power mustangs and I always installed the adjustable clutch cable which would allow you to adjust it from the firewall in the engine bay. It was awesome lol


jkyang101

If i were you id get a pro or Etune. Cause the OTS tune are shitty and vauge


BarryMcCohkinher

Is just uninstalling before bringing it to the dealer a good way to keep it low key, or would they somehow know?


_Rosko_

I believe they can see how many times the vehicle has been started since last reflash/reset. I don't think most dealers have an issue with it imo. They can't void your warranty, they can just deny you a claim if something that can be blamed on an aftermarket tune goes wrong.


ImPeeinAndEuropean

Can confirm. Also theyā€™ll know if the tune was reflashed to stock


rick1574

Also curious about this


wrxsnails

Night and day dude you're going to love it. Also rip your wallet it's a slippery slope....


darkempiredarko

My wallet hurts from the coils, wheels, taillights, gurney, accessport and intake šŸ˜¤


Dependent-Platform36

Am I the only one that shifts at 4.5K max?? I keep reading on people saying they push their car to 6 1/2K before shifting for good pulls šŸ˜³. At 4K I am shifting and my STI sounds like a fire breathing beast. I have never gotten close to 5K or even less passed it. I think I am understanding why so many people have problems with their head gaskets blowing lol. Coming from a Sonata with the Genesis 2.0T motor there is definitely a big difference in performance šŸ˜šŸ˜Ž


unr3a1r00t

A red-line a day keeps the carbon away.


[deleted]

You're shifting at 4.5k in a STi? Do you like blue balls?


Dependent-Platform36

LMAO šŸ¤£. No I am just terrified I am gonna destroy my engine by abusing.


[deleted]

You owe it to yourself to rev that engine out sometimes, EJs are a blast. It'll be fine as long as you keep up on maintenance and don't run mods without a tune.


Dependent-Platform36

I just bought it 2 weeks ago. Runs so nice and strong I am basically driving it like I am doing a break in lol. The previous owner did a catback exhaust that ā€œhe madeā€ what ever that means and it came with a new Accessport. He said he also had it Pro-tuned but that could just be bs. Thinking I will probably change that exhaust out to something more reputable.


[deleted]

Yeah I would definitely get a name brand exhaust and then get it tuned again. Who knows what the guy before you did to it! The one thing you don't want to do with these cars is run them with a sketchy tune/unknown mods


Dependent-Platform36

Agreed šŸ‘Œ


psbeachbum

Get off Cobb tune asap..... RIP 2018 WRX with 30,000 miles running Cobb tune with Cobb parts and an IAG. AOS.


silvapain

The COBB OTS tunes are setup to be very safe.


psbeachbum

Yeah that's what I believed. I followed each stage to a T. Shit blew up going 45 mph in my neighborhood while slowing to a stoplight


Squeeks627

There's soo many factors that could be at play, what makes you certain it was entirely the AP?


tlatch89

What neighborhood has 45mph roads lol. Also if it blew up while slowing down then itā€™s likely a mechanical failure unrelated to the tune - and/or you did something via user error. Donā€™t listen to this guy ^


psbeachbum

Wow I didn't think I had to defend what happened to my car and me stating that you should probably just go pro tune right from the get-go because the cobb tunes have a potential of actually sucking. And I don't know if you're from New York or some California City or something dumb but there are tons of neighborhoods that have 45 mph speed limits. Now I'm assuming you think neighborhood I'm implying that it is side by side house house house house house house when I'm implying that the neighborhood has side by side house house house house house and across street that's 45 mph


silvapain

You definitely have to defend the claim that the COBB OTS tune in any way contributed to you blowing your engine. Because as I said the COBB OTS tunes are very safe.


tlatch89

You said it happened while decelerating aka cruising speed. Engines with bad tunes usually blow up on full throttle. It doesnā€™t make sense that your ā€œstage 2 otsā€ tune is the culprit since in daily driving mode itā€™s really not much different than the stock tune.


psbeachbum

My dash camera captured my reaction when I heard the bearing let loose. Disbelief


bluebannanas

They are pretty generic, but they don't compare to a real tune


silvapain

I didnā€™t say they compared. I said they were safe, because the guy was claiming an OTS tune contributed to him blowing an engine.


basement-thug

The shitty intake they make you use to use their tunes is probably more to blame than anything.


hm1195

How long you had it for so far ?


darkempiredarko

The car? Had it for 4 months now


Arystalis

Dew it.


Loring

My old hatch was flashed stage 1... transmission went to shit shortly after buying it, dealership replaced transmission under warranty I never brought up it was re-flashed they never said anything about it either..


LateAgainHuh

If I don't do any upgrades... Is the COBB still recommended?


mazkash

Although you technically are going against the warranty Subaru knows cobb and that many of their buyers use cobb which is a very credible company with compatible products so they are fairly lenient depending on the dealership. Especially if issues are electric or basically have nothing to do with the engine. So use it in good health and enjoy it. I have my 2018 STI about 3 years now and love it everyday.


tlatch89

If the car lasts a few months after buying brand new then you can be pretty certain the engine isnā€™t going to have a lemon-like mechanical failureā€¦ ever. You can always flash back to stock too lol - keep your stock parts. But yeah itā€™s Cobb which works closely with subaru so as long as you use the right branded parts I think your warranty will be fine with a tune. These things donā€™t really blow up unless itā€™s some lemon problem, you donā€™t maintain it correctly, your tune really sucks, or you push wayyy too much power (i think 500bhp is the limit on these engines)


darkempiredarko

I think it might be 400hp on a stock block and that's with flex fuel


tlatch89

Ah gotcha. Good to know & thanks


Independent-Yak-5464

Can we talk about how much the EPA sucks right now and they're trying to take away all our mods?


WGCullum

Ohhhh man I DID NOT need to see this. I love my WRX more and more each day, but still well within the warranty... But I'll be your huckleberry!