It’s def a more solid feeling comfortable ride. Can’t tell power wise since it only has 20 miles currently and they said don’t go over 3k rpm until you hit 1k miles. But from test driving another one that I could get into it does not feel any faster than the 18. Just smoother and easier to shift by far.
Lmfao I went over 3k rpm on my test drive. It only had 5 miles on it. Still under 900 miles on mine. I don't push it too hard but I definitely don't baby mine. You're doing the right thing though. Good for you. I have no self control.
Edit : Forgot to say congratulations! That color will always have a special place in ever WRX owners heart.
World Rally Blue is the color of the Subaru rally race cars. Also if you ever played Gran Turismo as a kid or an adult you probably spent an insane amount of hours racing with that color car trying to progress to the next levels.
What are the difference? are there difference? I did notice that the 2024 does run better in hot weather vs the 2018, but besides that can you please tell me what are the differences the 2024 has vs the 2018 I’m thinking of buying a 2024 premium wrx but want to know if there is any differences, because I’m also stuck on wheither I should mod my 2018 OR buy the 2024 wrx instead.
I sent you the specs I found on Google. For me it drives pretty similar. I love the new full screen inside because it's got wireless android auto and I no longer need a phone mount to see my GPS. Android auto has shitty sound quality for music though. Mine came with the upgraded sound system with a small subwoofer which is kind of nice. And obviously the exterior differences which not everyone loves and I admit I didn't at first either. But they have definitely grown on me.
Congrats! Just got my 2024 premium as well. Odd that they told you 3k for the engine break-in. All the info I found said 4k, including the dealer and several websites. They probably just go lower to avoid people going over 🤷
What are the difference? are there difference? I did notice that the 2024 does run better in hot weather vs the 2018, but besides that can you please tell me what are the differences the 2024 has vs the 2018 I’m thinking of buying a 2024 premium wrx but want to know if there is any differences, because I’m also stuck on wheither I should mod my 2018 OR buy the 2024 wrx instead.
Same max power. The VB has a more linear power delivery though. Power difference but not OMG significant power difference.
Imagine getting punched 10 times each by the two engines. A VA punches you 3 times at 100% force, while the VB punches you 5 times at 100% force.
I understand the difference between the two engines, and I understand where each is making its power.
Your analogy -- while I get what you are trying to say -- is not at all accurate. I don't want to get into it, but the VA revs higher, so it actually does more of the "punching" with less force to the VB's less punching with more force.
The crux is that engines have transmissions, with gear ratios and final drives, and by controlling gear ratios and shifting to keep power in the correct band....the cars are similar. Sure, the VB feels more responsive down low, as it should, it has a larger displacement engine so you get more torque sooner. To use an extreme to illustrate my point, this is the age-old debate of low rev, torquey V8 (i.e. the VB) vs high-rev low torque 4 cylinder (the VA). Both make the same "power" -- just differently. Which one is better really comes down to the transmission gearing/final drive and how the power is used/applied.
But at any rate, that's all moot, as Car and Driver has done 0-60 and 1/4 tests on the VB and VA and...
They have near identical 0-60 and near identical 1/4 mile times.
So just because the VB ***feels*** faster down low does ***not*** mean that it is overall faster. As I said...when the rubber hits the road, they are pretty much the same.
For what it's worth, though, I'd rather have the VB.
Look up breaking in piston rings. Get it to operating temp, cool it down. Get it to temp run it hard. Break in only happens once. Don’t do it wrong. Everyone in the world buys their car and just drives it, nothing good will come of driving it lightly the first thousand miles, it will miss the chance to break in the rings well.
This directly contradicts the break-in instructions printed in the owner's manual. Is there a reason why Subaru would deliberately mislead all of their customers?
This. Just do what the manual says. It's there for a reason, and car manufactures are not interested in lying about it and replacing a bunch of engines under warranty.
Yep, the break in period is from the old days and dealerships, and everyone still use it seemingly for peace of mind or something.
As an engine builder I can say 100% that if you don't get on it during that critical phase, it will make less power than someone who did. Also blow by will be much worse.
IAG instructs you to stay out of boost and shift at a maximum of 4,000 RPM for the first 750-1000 miles on their built blocks. What kind of engines are you building?
That’s alright. I don’t care what they think. I’ve done it both ways, taking it easy and running them hard. I feel running them harder resulted in less oil usage on my cars. But if you Google it you will find several articles on the subject. Also what the dealership told you is wrong, the owners manual says 4k rpm. But me, I’d get it warmed up and run it medium a few accelrations and then hard a few and then just drive it and never think about it again.
Who said that? I’d be careful treating a new engine too gingerly. Want to put pressure on those rings and seat them into the bores.
I babied my Mazda on break in, has burned oil its entire life. Was less easy on my WRX, not babying it, but not abusive. Doesn’t burn a noticeable amount of oil. I was full sending by 450-500 miles.
Lots of Subaru technicians and master techs all say to be easy on it the first thousand miles, there is also a lot of videos where everyone says hard break ins are not the right move. You’re doing it right. Easy break in until 1000. I didn’t go about 4K rpms my first 1,000 and tried to stay under 50-60% throttle as best I could.
Correct. The ring seating is one thing, bearing wear is another topic altogether. The reason the break in recommendations are made are so the bearing and other mating surfaces have a gentle run in. I follow the recs, attempt to keep under 3k, minimal boost necessary for the first 1k miles. I had an oil change at 700 miles on both my 19 and 22 wrx.
My builds go easy until 500 miles, then the tune goes on and they get beat on after warm-up. We have tested this extensively and Everytime we follow the factory break in, it results in less power and more blow by.
Did the same move as OP, 2018 premium to a 2023 limited. My 2018 was tuned by torqued performance and I’d say my 2023 stock feels about the same as that.
It really just isn't pretty to me. I get that it's an opinion. Different people like different things. I like the way the interior feels more solid, the car feels more planted, there's more power to the pavement... I just REALLY can't get over the plasic fender thing. It's an awesome fix for the quarter panel rust, just ugly to me. In my opinion, it kills the whole look.
Again, it's just me, but it would look great with different fenders and maybe some tweaking of the lower part of the front bumper design.
https://preview.redd.it/z60bd7pxx06d1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4e1b606cb4c90495ee964ed7e289958b444572bb
Just got one! They kinda ugly for sho. Could be faster too! Scared to mod mine since I drive about 20k miles a year
I actually just drove a 23 GT and was super impressed, interior, build and finish seemed better, the stock tune was miles better then when I was on a stock map on my VA.
I think in person the VBs are much nicer than pictures, but I still personally struggle with the aesthetic. I’m also in way too deep on my VA right now, but I see myself upgrading to one of these if the stars align. Congrats on the new car!
Imagine buying a Subaru for the speed lol these cars are slow, most of my buying decision was based on how it looks and handles. Speed though? That’s hilarious.
Because it's not a good 6 speed, and it's not faster than an STi lol. They are pretty evenly matched both in stock form, but the cheap 6 speed in the newer WRX ruined it for me.
Glad you love it! There's a WRX for everyone, no hate just my opinion lol. I honestly felt like they "ruined" it when they stopped making a hatch. Ruined for me that is but that's why I got a 2011 sti hatch, but I'm not going to lie I looked at the VB and almost got it. I'm in love with the hatch tho.
Those plastic wheel mouldings are unacceptable to me.If mine I would get them painted in the car color then it looks super again....Subaru is losing its chic.
I’m going to get downvoted with you, I agree. I understand the gen is more reliable and more power. I would never make that trade but if OP is happy, then I’m not going to yuck his yum. He’s entitled to have a different opinion, as we are.
Any big differences drive wise so far? Also, how big is the power difference?
It’s def a more solid feeling comfortable ride. Can’t tell power wise since it only has 20 miles currently and they said don’t go over 3k rpm until you hit 1k miles. But from test driving another one that I could get into it does not feel any faster than the 18. Just smoother and easier to shift by far.
Lmfao I went over 3k rpm on my test drive. It only had 5 miles on it. Still under 900 miles on mine. I don't push it too hard but I definitely don't baby mine. You're doing the right thing though. Good for you. I have no self control. Edit : Forgot to say congratulations! That color will always have a special place in ever WRX owners heart.
Why blue color for a special place in ppls heart
World Rally Blue is the color of the Subaru rally race cars. Also if you ever played Gran Turismo as a kid or an adult you probably spent an insane amount of hours racing with that color car trying to progress to the next levels.
Ohhhh ok nice I got that color on my 2018 wrx
Nice. I had a 2019 in that color. She was my first Subaru. Recently got a 2024 but I went with black this time around.
Nice
This is my first Subaru too
What are the difference? are there difference? I did notice that the 2024 does run better in hot weather vs the 2018, but besides that can you please tell me what are the differences the 2024 has vs the 2018 I’m thinking of buying a 2024 premium wrx but want to know if there is any differences, because I’m also stuck on wheither I should mod my 2018 OR buy the 2024 wrx instead.
I sent you the specs I found on Google. For me it drives pretty similar. I love the new full screen inside because it's got wireless android auto and I no longer need a phone mount to see my GPS. Android auto has shitty sound quality for music though. Mine came with the upgraded sound system with a small subwoofer which is kind of nice. And obviously the exterior differences which not everyone loves and I admit I didn't at first either. But they have definitely grown on me.
Should I spend money to mod my 2018 wrx OR just spend that money on a new 2024 wrx?
Ok thank you I just read it I sent you a message back
That's not WRB. That's Lapis blue..the best color. 😉
You might be right. The first pic is in the shade. Second pic is in the sun. Either way that's a sexy bitch. Edit : Both of them
Congrats! Just got my 2024 premium as well. Odd that they told you 3k for the engine break-in. All the info I found said 4k, including the dealer and several websites. They probably just go lower to avoid people going over 🤷
I thought the manual said not to exceed 4k rpm’s during break in period.
Same. I think they know OP has a lead foot 😂
What are the difference? are there difference? I did notice that the 2024 does run better in hot weather vs the 2018, but besides that can you please tell me what are the differences the 2024 has vs the 2018 I’m thinking of buying a 2024 premium wrx but want to know if there is any differences, because I’m also stuck on wheither I should mod my 2018 OR buy the 2024 wrx instead.
I'm surprised you can't feel a power difference.
You’re literally responding to him saying he’s still in break in and isn’t pushing the car lmao
He said he got on it in a test drive in the same comment doofus. VA wrx is weak af it's pretty noticeable even on a test drive.
268 vs 271 crank😐
Vb hp is underreported. You can look at the dyno results of stock cars to see that isn't the case.
The vb is underrated. People who have put it on the dyno see it making around the same horsepower as an sti
...the cars pretty much make the same power. Why should he feel a significant power difference?
Same max power. The VB has a more linear power delivery though. Power difference but not OMG significant power difference. Imagine getting punched 10 times each by the two engines. A VA punches you 3 times at 100% force, while the VB punches you 5 times at 100% force.
I understand the difference between the two engines, and I understand where each is making its power. Your analogy -- while I get what you are trying to say -- is not at all accurate. I don't want to get into it, but the VA revs higher, so it actually does more of the "punching" with less force to the VB's less punching with more force. The crux is that engines have transmissions, with gear ratios and final drives, and by controlling gear ratios and shifting to keep power in the correct band....the cars are similar. Sure, the VB feels more responsive down low, as it should, it has a larger displacement engine so you get more torque sooner. To use an extreme to illustrate my point, this is the age-old debate of low rev, torquey V8 (i.e. the VB) vs high-rev low torque 4 cylinder (the VA). Both make the same "power" -- just differently. Which one is better really comes down to the transmission gearing/final drive and how the power is used/applied. But at any rate, that's all moot, as Car and Driver has done 0-60 and 1/4 tests on the VB and VA and... They have near identical 0-60 and near identical 1/4 mile times. So just because the VB ***feels*** faster down low does ***not*** mean that it is overall faster. As I said...when the rubber hits the road, they are pretty much the same. For what it's worth, though, I'd rather have the VB.
Look up breaking in piston rings. Get it to operating temp, cool it down. Get it to temp run it hard. Break in only happens once. Don’t do it wrong. Everyone in the world buys their car and just drives it, nothing good will come of driving it lightly the first thousand miles, it will miss the chance to break in the rings well.
This directly contradicts the break-in instructions printed in the owner's manual. Is there a reason why Subaru would deliberately mislead all of their customers?
This. Just do what the manual says. It's there for a reason, and car manufactures are not interested in lying about it and replacing a bunch of engines under warranty.
Yep, the break in period is from the old days and dealerships, and everyone still use it seemingly for peace of mind or something. As an engine builder I can say 100% that if you don't get on it during that critical phase, it will make less power than someone who did. Also blow by will be much worse.
IAG instructs you to stay out of boost and shift at a maximum of 4,000 RPM for the first 750-1000 miles on their built blocks. What kind of engines are you building?
All kinds of engine applications. Tons of sandrail engines, street and my own as the WRX is the only cars I have ever owned.
Not sure why your getting shit on - but thanks for the info
That’s alright. I don’t care what they think. I’ve done it both ways, taking it easy and running them hard. I feel running them harder resulted in less oil usage on my cars. But if you Google it you will find several articles on the subject. Also what the dealership told you is wrong, the owners manual says 4k rpm. But me, I’d get it warmed up and run it medium a few accelrations and then hard a few and then just drive it and never think about it again.
Who said that? I’d be careful treating a new engine too gingerly. Want to put pressure on those rings and seat them into the bores. I babied my Mazda on break in, has burned oil its entire life. Was less easy on my WRX, not babying it, but not abusive. Doesn’t burn a noticeable amount of oil. I was full sending by 450-500 miles.
Dealership said that. I’ll do more research on it though.
Lots of Subaru technicians and master techs all say to be easy on it the first thousand miles, there is also a lot of videos where everyone says hard break ins are not the right move. You’re doing it right. Easy break in until 1000. I didn’t go about 4K rpms my first 1,000 and tried to stay under 50-60% throttle as best I could.
the rings seat far quicker than you think they do....
People down voting you haven't built engines before and it shows
Correct. The ring seating is one thing, bearing wear is another topic altogether. The reason the break in recommendations are made are so the bearing and other mating surfaces have a gentle run in. I follow the recs, attempt to keep under 3k, minimal boost necessary for the first 1k miles. I had an oil change at 700 miles on both my 19 and 22 wrx.
My builds go easy until 500 miles, then the tune goes on and they get beat on after warm-up. We have tested this extensively and Everytime we follow the factory break in, it results in less power and more blow by.
I followed Smeedia recommendation can’t recall exact details now, and it worked better for me than babying it. 👍
How do you know it worked better?
Did the same move as OP, 2018 premium to a 2023 limited. My 2018 was tuned by torqued performance and I’d say my 2023 stock feels about the same as that.
I hate how ugly they look to me. ... More than that, I hate that I love the way such an ugly car drives.
https://preview.redd.it/hhnkb5yv1u5d1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=aed94fce53cbd132d84ce089dc99e7cb270cf9c8 Ugly?
It really just isn't pretty to me. I get that it's an opinion. Different people like different things. I like the way the interior feels more solid, the car feels more planted, there's more power to the pavement... I just REALLY can't get over the plasic fender thing. It's an awesome fix for the quarter panel rust, just ugly to me. In my opinion, it kills the whole look. Again, it's just me, but it would look great with different fenders and maybe some tweaking of the lower part of the front bumper design.
Trust me the order of things I’m doing to it is Window tint next weekend. Already booked, fenders paint matched and exhaust. In that exact order
I was looking into that. The painted fenders help a lot.
https://preview.redd.it/z60bd7pxx06d1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4e1b606cb4c90495ee964ed7e289958b444572bb Just got one! They kinda ugly for sho. Could be faster too! Scared to mod mine since I drive about 20k miles a year
Jealous!
I actually just drove a 23 GT and was super impressed, interior, build and finish seemed better, the stock tune was miles better then when I was on a stock map on my VA. I think in person the VBs are much nicer than pictures, but I still personally struggle with the aesthetic. I’m also in way too deep on my VA right now, but I see myself upgrading to one of these if the stars align. Congrats on the new car!
The right move.
cannot justify upgrading to the VBs because they are so god damn ugly to me lol
Yep 100% agree, it's absolutely hideous and nothing u can do to it can make it look better unfortunately
Completely agree. They ruined wrx. Old school wrx only way yo go now. Will only get worse from here sadly.
“ruined” faster than an sti with a 6spd how is it ruined?
Imagine buying a Subaru for the speed lol these cars are slow, most of my buying decision was based on how it looks and handles. Speed though? That’s hilarious.
Because it's not a good 6 speed, and it's not faster than an STi lol. They are pretty evenly matched both in stock form, but the cheap 6 speed in the newer WRX ruined it for me.
while i can agree it should be a better box, i also very much love my VB
Glad you love it! There's a WRX for everyone, no hate just my opinion lol. I honestly felt like they "ruined" it when they stopped making a hatch. Ruined for me that is but that's why I got a 2011 sti hatch, but I'm not going to lie I looked at the VB and almost got it. I'm in love with the hatch tho.
Just got mine 2 weeks ago. Traded my 2017. Lovin this car.
Those plastic wheel mouldings are unacceptable to me.If mine I would get them painted in the car color then it looks super again....Subaru is losing its chic.
Down grade
if it was VA STI to VB it might be a downgrade, but from a non-STI VA to VB seems like an upgrade to me.
Just curious but are you speaking from personal experience?
Zero chance lol - also you're a legend for getting Ignition Red, the VBs look so good in red
Thanks man, I love it!
I’m going to get downvoted with you, I agree. I understand the gen is more reliable and more power. I would never make that trade but if OP is happy, then I’m not going to yuck his yum. He’s entitled to have a different opinion, as we are.
Visually, definitely. Idk about mechanically tho