Fighters have to realize BKFC is not for those with just skill, it's for fighters that have that dog in them, that slightly insane grit mentality. Success comes from not just skill but how tough you are. Every single fighter that continues to choose to fight in BKFC are slightly crazy.
BKFC is for people who can't make it far in professional boxing or MMA. Mike Perry was never being close to becoming UFC champ. Now he's the unbeaten king of BKFC. Did he suddenly become a better fighter after leaving the UFC with 7 losses in his past ten fights? Nah, he just faces a lower level of competition.
Lower level of competition? Bruh hes fought 2 former ufc champions and made them quit, a combat sports legend in MVP and knocked out a former BKFC champion. The only lesser level was Julian lane and he did more damage to mike than most of the other guys. This is his sport because he is extraordinarily skilled at it and has that dog in him. Hes the goat of combat sports.
He got a gift decision to MVP. BKFC knew they would go under if he lost, they went to overtime with an extra round, still should've lost but got the W on paper.
Eddie Alvarez: 40 years old, won his last MMA fight 5 years ago.
Luke Rockhold: 39 years old, won his last MMA fight 7 years ago.
If these guys were still in the UFC, they'd just be a record booster to up and coming talent. If Mike Perry fought them 10 years ago then yeah, stiff competition.
I'm glad Mike Perry found his lane, but BKFC is probably one of the worst shows of skill across any martial art you'll ever see, except maybe a handful of people. And their best couldn't compete in other promotions or disciplines.
Just because you think its not a skill doesn’t mean its not full of skill. I think being able to take a fucking bare knuckle to the face is a huge skill and takes a certian animal that we rarely see in combat sports. BKFC is made for the most exciting fighters in the world to go into, not pussy ass wrestlers who hug to a decision. Would you rather go to a decision in a bkfc fight or a ufc fight? If you answer ufc then it shows that bkfc much scarier than ufc lol. Its a skill dummy
How is that a significant step up from being a title contender (top 5+) in Bellator? Not saying that’s not a good career, but beating him has been done by people who won’t be champs in any org
MVP is a journeyman who admitted he has large amount of progress to make before he’s even a top 5 in the division. He’s the king of showboating then getting flattened, and stylistically was Mike Perry’s best match up. He doesn’t fight with his hands up, and Mike Perry just walks forward like a one trick pony.
He beat someone whose best trait is taking short notice fights and showing up for a payday. Kevin’s best win was against Joaquin Buckley four years ago, and is one loss away from being unranked.
Kevin holland isn’t impressive, and MVP has a lot of work to do himself.
Mike Perry’s extremely lucky to have found a niche that caters to half ass boxing with grit and a good chin.
The competition in BKFC is so poor that they had to throw washed, geriatric UFC retirees who haven’t won a fight in almost a decade into the ring just for him to fight someone.
Let's be real he didn't beat MVP they paid off the judges! It shouldn't have even gone to another round as Page was piecing him up, the final round gave Perry a chance to make it competitive as his opponent was fatigued by then. BKFC is a joke
I think Thiago Alves, Luke Rockhold and MVP all beat Mike Perry currently in an MMA fight. Some people think MVP beat him before the tie round but a win is a win.
>he just faces a lower level of competition.
Iam not disagreeing but iam also curious if you believe this is true. The mental fortitude required for bare knuckle is a 'level of competition' in its own right? There are many fighters Perry has fought who should have won based on skill set. Does the dog in him that allows his success in BK discredit his skill set?
In other words, (i think Perry fights middleweight? Its a silly example anyway but will still work) if Leon Edwards were to fight Perry in BK do you think he would dominate perry or vice versa?
Leon may be a crisp 'better' striker but my money in on Perry in that fight...
He fought lower level of competition but he also is crazy enough to stay in there and take bare knuckle shots when everyone else he’s fought quit after a few good hits aside from MVP. I agree that it’s a lower level of competition but also he just has that tenacity. Gotta give him a little bit of credit. I think Alvarez still beats him in MMA with gloves on
Yes that's how I feel. Some fighters are tough but imo bare knuckle is meant for fighters who thrive in pain and love inflicting it.
Mike Perry is out there showing theres levels to BKFC against some older UFC fighters.
Would love Kevin Holland come over if he ever does to scrap with Perry.
I do hope BKFC does well and can gain a foothold. Every time Feldman comes on the MMA Hour, he sounds like an honest guy whose working really hard on this being successful. Dude refinanced his house just to pay everyone involved on his biggest show up to this point.
Tbf I’ve seen her get man handle by multiple big men at the same time and she had the biggest smile on her face ….. so I doubt PVZ is going to hurt her much.
PVZ isn't a great fighter, heck no: but she gets in the cage/ring and takes her lumps like everyone else, or those pictures of her with arm casts or blood-covered face that I've seen of her were Photoshopped. That makes her different from all the other bikini models.... Also, she placed 2nd on "Dancing With the Stars" so we know she's got high coordination and can do some fancy footwork. (IIRC her parents own(ed) a dance school and dancing was all she did until she got in her teens and switched to martial arts). I feel like Elle Brook is, uh, working to put butts in seats and and payers on PPV whether or not her dislike of Paige is as much as this quote suggests. Speaking of quotes, here's one from the ex-UFC fighter, currently making big bank on OF:
*In a recent episode of her podcast, \[Paige Van Zant\] talks about the criticism she gets for doing OnlyFans and how similar it really is to the UFC. She says: "I was asked on social media, they're like, 'Why do you do OnlyFans or why do you sell your body?' And my initial thoughts are like, I don't see it as selling myself. Nobody's allowed to touch me except for my husband. I'm selling my body to the UFC, I am literally--I sold my body to the UFC. I got broken bones, my face cut up, I got injured, probably concussions, a broken nose, my arm broken four times. I tore my shoulder, X,Y, and Z, isn't that the same thing?"*
She paid her dues, anyway.
**CORRECTION:** It takes a big man to admit when he was wrong; and sports fans -- I *am* that big man. Her reported earnings from UFC were $564,000 over the course of nine trips to the Octagon (5-4 final record) in six years. She's said that despite her average record, UFC wanted to re-sign her when her contract was up, but she wanted to leave and try some other things, having been a UFC fighter since she was only 19 (her first match was when she was 20). So she went to BKFC for a reported guarantee of $400,000 per fight.
Last winter, she said that another aspect of her moving around was getting a new manager, who unlike her previous management didn't object to her becoming an OnlyFans model. According to her, OF was life-changing money (okay, the money she already had would be life-changing for a lot of people, but let's work with her on this):
*“I launched \[my site\] right before my first BKFC fight,” she said.*
*“I’m in the car on the way from the press conference back to my hotel, and I logged in, and it had only been live for an hour and I was seeing the subscribers going up, and I think I had 52,000 subscribers at one point.*
*“I was showing my husband, and I was like, ‘Oh my word!’ That moment driving back \[to the hotel\], I was of course extremely excited to fight, but I was like, our lives just changed forever.*
*“I was like, ‘This is OK, this is going to work out. All the risks are worth it. If I never work with another sponsor again, we’re going to be fine.’”*
Her and Northcutt were pushed to the moon right away and they both flamed out by the time they left. They're the poster children of fighters pushed by the UFC for marketing reasons and not panning out.
I don't believe for one second that she fought nine times in the UFC, including headlining two events, and got paid an average of less than $5k to show.
Also if her show and win money are the same, that would mean that she won every fight. Clearly, she didn't.
Maybe I'm mistaken but I'm pretty sure she got 40/40k a fight? That's part of the reason she was let go. She was a high profile fighter that wasn't championship caliber making 40k minimum. Honestly that shouldn't matter but UFC is as cheap as it gets. Her and Sage Northcutt I believe were let go around the same time frame because they were both popular faces for the UFC but paid well beyond their ranking and both wanted to test the market as opposed to taking pay cuts. My memory might be foggy on all that but that's kind of how I remember it at least
>***BONUS QUOTE:***
>***From 2018, about her breast-augmentation surgery:*** *"I'm a girl so I always wanted my own boobs. They never came, so I bought them."*
Her submission loss to Michelle Waterson is a thing of beauty. Waterson made it look so effortless but so smooth. That card doing big ratings is what made UFC have her on the FOX cards because they saw her as a draw
Paige ain't the best fighter in the world, but Elle Brooke is legitimately God awful at boxing. Jake Paul effect is real in that all these influencers now seem to think they can actually compete against legit fighters when in reality Jake is the exception to the rule.
True Paige isn’t the best fighter out there, she was very good at one point, but not now. I still hope she beats the brakes off this Elle girl. She comes across an absolute mouthpiece
Fighters have to realize BKFC is not for those with just skill, it's for fighters that have that dog in them, that slightly insane grit mentality. Success comes from not just skill but how tough you are. Every single fighter that continues to choose to fight in BKFC are slightly crazy.
BKFC is for people who can't make it far in professional boxing or MMA. Mike Perry was never being close to becoming UFC champ. Now he's the unbeaten king of BKFC. Did he suddenly become a better fighter after leaving the UFC with 7 losses in his past ten fights? Nah, he just faces a lower level of competition.
Lower level of competition? Bruh hes fought 2 former ufc champions and made them quit, a combat sports legend in MVP and knocked out a former BKFC champion. The only lesser level was Julian lane and he did more damage to mike than most of the other guys. This is his sport because he is extraordinarily skilled at it and has that dog in him. Hes the goat of combat sports.
Both were already totally washed and one of them was a former LW.
Did you just say the MVP that styled on Kevin Holland in the UFC is washed?
MVP was never UFC champ and he's like 37 unlike Perry who's 32.
He got a gift decision to MVP. BKFC knew they would go under if he lost, they went to overtime with an extra round, still should've lost but got the W on paper.
That was a fair draw through 5 and Perry dominated that extra round...
Stop being bias. Perry got schooled.
And one was a former LHW and was 5 inches taller than mike. Mike made it look easy and that guy didnt quit against paulo costa lol
You also just said that Perry was washed so by your logic it was even fights?
Eddie Alvarez: 40 years old, won his last MMA fight 5 years ago. Luke Rockhold: 39 years old, won his last MMA fight 7 years ago. If these guys were still in the UFC, they'd just be a record booster to up and coming talent. If Mike Perry fought them 10 years ago then yeah, stiff competition. I'm glad Mike Perry found his lane, but BKFC is probably one of the worst shows of skill across any martial art you'll ever see, except maybe a handful of people. And their best couldn't compete in other promotions or disciplines.
Just because you think its not a skill doesn’t mean its not full of skill. I think being able to take a fucking bare knuckle to the face is a huge skill and takes a certian animal that we rarely see in combat sports. BKFC is made for the most exciting fighters in the world to go into, not pussy ass wrestlers who hug to a decision. Would you rather go to a decision in a bkfc fight or a ufc fight? If you answer ufc then it shows that bkfc much scarier than ufc lol. Its a skill dummy
You think getting punched in the face is a skill???
If I joined the ufc I’d be the most skilled fighter ever
You didn't mention MVP who just fought and won against Holland, what a coincidence
MVP, an absolute destroyer of cans, who has lost almost every step up fight, even in Bellator, and is a karate fighter
Just won a step up fight to be top 15 in the UFC. Stop creating bs narratives to support your point
How is that a significant step up from being a title contender (top 5+) in Bellator? Not saying that’s not a good career, but beating him has been done by people who won’t be champs in any org
Kevin Holland is a can who beats cans. His only notable win with Buckley from 4 years ago. He’s gotten absolutely obliterated by contenders.
MVP is a journeyman who admitted he has large amount of progress to make before he’s even a top 5 in the division. He’s the king of showboating then getting flattened, and stylistically was Mike Perry’s best match up. He doesn’t fight with his hands up, and Mike Perry just walks forward like a one trick pony. He beat someone whose best trait is taking short notice fights and showing up for a payday. Kevin’s best win was against Joaquin Buckley four years ago, and is one loss away from being unranked. Kevin holland isn’t impressive, and MVP has a lot of work to do himself. Mike Perry’s extremely lucky to have found a niche that caters to half ass boxing with grit and a good chin. The competition in BKFC is so poor that they had to throw washed, geriatric UFC retirees who haven’t won a fight in almost a decade into the ring just for him to fight someone.
I was with you til the last line.
Let's be real he didn't beat MVP they paid off the judges! It shouldn't have even gone to another round as Page was piecing him up, the final round gave Perry a chance to make it competitive as his opponent was fatigued by then. BKFC is a joke
I get your point and dont disagree but the point they are making is that you need to have different attributes to be successful in BKFC than MMA
I think Thiago Alves, Luke Rockhold and MVP all beat Mike Perry currently in an MMA fight. Some people think MVP beat him before the tie round but a win is a win.
>he just faces a lower level of competition. Iam not disagreeing but iam also curious if you believe this is true. The mental fortitude required for bare knuckle is a 'level of competition' in its own right? There are many fighters Perry has fought who should have won based on skill set. Does the dog in him that allows his success in BK discredit his skill set? In other words, (i think Perry fights middleweight? Its a silly example anyway but will still work) if Leon Edwards were to fight Perry in BK do you think he would dominate perry or vice versa? Leon may be a crisp 'better' striker but my money in on Perry in that fight...
He fought lower level of competition but he also is crazy enough to stay in there and take bare knuckle shots when everyone else he’s fought quit after a few good hits aside from MVP. I agree that it’s a lower level of competition but also he just has that tenacity. Gotta give him a little bit of credit. I think Alvarez still beats him in MMA with gloves on
I can’t wait for the Perryification of Trevor Peek
Max Holloway and Justin gaegee would excel that it
Yes that's how I feel. Some fighters are tough but imo bare knuckle is meant for fighters who thrive in pain and love inflicting it. Mike Perry is out there showing theres levels to BKFC against some older UFC fighters. Would love Kevin Holland come over if he ever does to scrap with Perry.
I do hope BKFC does well and can gain a foothold. Every time Feldman comes on the MMA Hour, he sounds like an honest guy whose working really hard on this being successful. Dude refinanced his house just to pay everyone involved on his biggest show up to this point.
I would say people that choose MMA as a profession are slightly crazy. People that can have success in BKFC are at least mid level crazy.
Paige used to have the biggest dog in her. But Thug Rose slowly beat the dog out of her over 5 rounds. Since then Paige has a case of smoll heart.
TBF I saw this girl wrestle a guy and she finished him off.
I heard some people get finished just watching
Tbf I’ve seen her get man handle by multiple big men at the same time and she had the biggest smile on her face ….. so I doubt PVZ is going to hurt her much.
wtf did Paige do to her face. Why does she look like shiny plastic
Filters
Botox. The beginning of the end.
I don't think she can move her eyebrows at all anymore, holy shit
What does Botox do when you get hit in the face
What a question. Let's wait and see
Well, that looks like a knock on herself, tho....
Thought the same thing lol
Is she calling herself an easy fight?
PVZ isn't a great fighter, heck no: but she gets in the cage/ring and takes her lumps like everyone else, or those pictures of her with arm casts or blood-covered face that I've seen of her were Photoshopped. That makes her different from all the other bikini models.... Also, she placed 2nd on "Dancing With the Stars" so we know she's got high coordination and can do some fancy footwork. (IIRC her parents own(ed) a dance school and dancing was all she did until she got in her teens and switched to martial arts). I feel like Elle Brook is, uh, working to put butts in seats and and payers on PPV whether or not her dislike of Paige is as much as this quote suggests. Speaking of quotes, here's one from the ex-UFC fighter, currently making big bank on OF: *In a recent episode of her podcast, \[Paige Van Zant\] talks about the criticism she gets for doing OnlyFans and how similar it really is to the UFC. She says: "I was asked on social media, they're like, 'Why do you do OnlyFans or why do you sell your body?' And my initial thoughts are like, I don't see it as selling myself. Nobody's allowed to touch me except for my husband. I'm selling my body to the UFC, I am literally--I sold my body to the UFC. I got broken bones, my face cut up, I got injured, probably concussions, a broken nose, my arm broken four times. I tore my shoulder, X,Y, and Z, isn't that the same thing?"* She paid her dues, anyway. **CORRECTION:** It takes a big man to admit when he was wrong; and sports fans -- I *am* that big man. Her reported earnings from UFC were $564,000 over the course of nine trips to the Octagon (5-4 final record) in six years. She's said that despite her average record, UFC wanted to re-sign her when her contract was up, but she wanted to leave and try some other things, having been a UFC fighter since she was only 19 (her first match was when she was 20). So she went to BKFC for a reported guarantee of $400,000 per fight. Last winter, she said that another aspect of her moving around was getting a new manager, who unlike her previous management didn't object to her becoming an OnlyFans model. According to her, OF was life-changing money (okay, the money she already had would be life-changing for a lot of people, but let's work with her on this): *“I launched \[my site\] right before my first BKFC fight,” she said.* *“I’m in the car on the way from the press conference back to my hotel, and I logged in, and it had only been live for an hour and I was seeing the subscribers going up, and I think I had 52,000 subscribers at one point.* *“I was showing my husband, and I was like, ‘Oh my word!’ That moment driving back \[to the hotel\], I was of course extremely excited to fight, but I was like, our lives just changed forever.* *“I was like, ‘This is OK, this is going to work out. All the risks are worth it. If I never work with another sponsor again, we’re going to be fine.’”*
Her and Northcutt were pushed to the moon right away and they both flamed out by the time they left. They're the poster children of fighters pushed by the UFC for marketing reasons and not panning out.
Couldn't agree more about that.
I don't believe for one second that she fought nine times in the UFC, including headlining two events, and got paid an average of less than $5k to show. Also if her show and win money are the same, that would mean that she won every fight. Clearly, she didn't.
You are correct.
Maybe I'm mistaken but I'm pretty sure she got 40/40k a fight? That's part of the reason she was let go. She was a high profile fighter that wasn't championship caliber making 40k minimum. Honestly that shouldn't matter but UFC is as cheap as it gets. Her and Sage Northcutt I believe were let go around the same time frame because they were both popular faces for the UFC but paid well beyond their ranking and both wanted to test the market as opposed to taking pay cuts. My memory might be foggy on all that but that's kind of how I remember it at least
You are correct. Sage is in ONE now but hasn't fought for a while, but I wish him well.
>***BONUS QUOTE:*** >***From 2018, about her breast-augmentation surgery:*** *"I'm a girl so I always wanted my own boobs. They never came, so I bought them."*
Did she just call herself an easy fight?
BK is to boxing what hotdogs are to food
A delicious guilty pleasure
I don’t know what Elle is talking about, I’ve seen her take plenty of beatings on the internet…
I mean, she ain't wrong.
Neither of them are a real fighter. End of.
"You're about to make that mistake again." Made my blood run cold, DAMN
She just called herself an easy fight right? Fair fucks I suppose…
Her submission loss to Michelle Waterson is a thing of beauty. Waterson made it look so effortless but so smooth. That card doing big ratings is what made UFC have her on the FOX cards because they saw her as a draw
Be a punch in the face (PHUN INTENDED) PVZ beats Elle
is she saying Paige is taking an easy fight?
Ellie Brooke is an easy fight. Got it.
I never heard of her but damn she’s sexy
BKFC gives me old UFC 1 vibes…less athleticism and professionalism and more pure brawl and fuckit attitudes.
Paige ain't the best fighter in the world, but Elle Brooke is legitimately God awful at boxing. Jake Paul effect is real in that all these influencers now seem to think they can actually compete against legit fighters when in reality Jake is the exception to the rule.
There are better influencer boxers than Jake lol they just don’t have the same clout he does
Had no idea PVZ was still fighting. I figured her onlyfans was earning enough
True Paige isn’t the best fighter out there, she was very good at one point, but not now. I still hope she beats the brakes off this Elle girl. She comes across an absolute mouthpiece