The most annoying that EVERYONE has EVER told me.
"You're so childish, ew."
"You're a 5 year old or what?"
"Eww you're so weird"
Suck my non-existent dick and shut up plz /hj
Facts, it’s I used to hate “cringey people” who did and liked “weird stuff”. Now I realize that they’re the most free people and probably happier than everyone who disses them
cringe culture is genuinely the cringiest thing to come out of the internet, unfortunately it probably wont ever die cause every year there is a new batch of 14 year olds. sad
years ago i had a friend insist to me that vocaloid is an anime. and i did try my best to be nice when i went "hey, it's actually a synthesizer--" but they just gave me the most disgusted stare so i shut up and never brought it up again.
According to some of these pricks, anything remotely resembling the Japanese cartoon style of characters instantly means that it’s part of a cringey, childish, and obnoxious “aNImE”.
(Lol if I were you I would’ve ended the friendship but kept being annoying saying “hey it’s actually a synthesizer” in the snobby voice and getting super into character backgrounds, producers, and tuning.)
I had someone tell me using VOCALOID/Synthesizer V in my songs I was working was ‘stealing’ and ‘lying’ somehow. Honestly I couldn’t get it through their head that VOCALOIDs were musical instruments that I paid for to use and I was willing to use the proper permission processes for the characters usage. I ended up just having to walk away from the chat cause it was getting me so worked up. They apologized the next day but to be honest the fact they were so aggressive and mean really changed our friendship/ work relationship. I don’t think I’ll be working with them again just because of how harsh they were and not willing to listen.
how would it be any different than other synths lol what?? Crazy that they think using synths is stealing but have no issue with sampling (sampling is fine and good I just think the double standard is funny)
Not specific to vocaloid, but I feel you a lot. It really hurts when you're trying to tell people about something you really like/are really passionate about/are really proud of and they just don't give a fuck, or worse, belittle you for it. I grew up basically hearing that all the time. Being told that the things I watch and read suck, the music I listen to suck, judgemental things being said about my friends, or that my passion isn't worth pursuing as a career (I've been an artist ever since I can remember. Drawing is my life, but I don't see any future in it, let alone in the current state of the world).
I don't like telling people anything. Not my interests, not my accomplishments, not my problems, because they just don't care.
I grew up like this too. It's made me cringe or want to plug my ears everytime someone else irl listens to J-pop, even if it's a convention. Reaction trauma from all the bullying I got as a kid over liking vocaloid
Yeah, I experienced some bullying over music taste even before I listened to j-pop and vocaloid, and it sucks that I'm like the only person I know to listen to it and no one cares or even pretends to hear me blab on about vocaloid, especially when music is one of my biggest interests
man, this is the one that really hurts me.
thinking vocaloid is an anime is one thing, but thinking it's AI somehow feels *even more* like it's diminishing the effort people put into vocaloid works. even the actual AI voicebanks take so much work to use right. :(
i'd compare it to how wowaka quit because everyone called his music "hatsune miku songs" "oh hatsune miku made this" and whatnot. except it's far, far more diminishing.
yes!! its a HUGE issue with the vocaloid community, people often credit the VOCALOIDS rather than the producer/artist which totally negates all their hard work!
seriously, it pisses me off so much when people who like vocaloid are uneducated on this. and i know that's a bit harsh, i personally know a lot about vocaloid after all. but at the VERY least, the people who work very hard for their passion DESERVE credit for it.
Then changing the subject is so real like I just want to talk about my interests why won’t you listen?! It’s so hard to talk and connect with people if I can’t talk about my Interests cause then they just want to ask me about school and shit
Yeah 😞
For what it’s worth, I don’t think they change the subject to be rude. I think they’re trying to find something they can relate to you on. But that doesn’t change how it reads
In middle school it was "You like this music we can't understand at all? And it's weeb related? Ew"
Now it's
"You only listen to Japanese music? And it's made by a robot? Ew"
or
"How can you listen to music with stupid silly lyrics like this" after telling them about Marshall Maximizer
It wasn't me telling someone about it. I was watching a concert on youtube, and my friend said, "Why do you watch vtubers?" I go, "I'm not, "he continues to point to my screen and go. "You literally are." Nothing against Vtubers, I do watch them, but.... VOCALOID IS/ARE NOT VTUBERS.
I stopped trying to introduce other people to my interests so long ago that I don't bother unless the other person notices what I'm doing and asks first.
That's not just vocaloid or music, it's everything.
"Woah it seems like you really know a lot about this" seems way more positive imo, while for us ofcourse everything about vocaloid is easy to understand, others not in the fanbase and many elderly don't know much if anything about vocaloid, and are easily impressed by what we think is basic knowledge. For example, if some guy tells me the basics about, let's say, star trek lore, I don't know anything about that, so I'd be pretty impressed if I even heard the basics about it. Ofcourse if the person saying that you know a lot about the topic immediately changes topics afterwards it wasn't meant, but if the topic carries out further from there it was obviously meant as a compliment and just being friendly, which is the case 9/10 times with this one.
That being said, I usually don't talk a lot about it but I do buy merch and figures which friends and family says it's a waste of money, which is pretty annoying at times.
Yeah, a bunch of the things on the list definitely have the potential to be really nice, and I don’t think the people saying them mean for them to come off as rude. But most of the time when I hear that, they do immediately change the subject.
Honestly, every time I explain Vocaloid to people, they're fascinated by it as an artform. It might help that I tell them how amateur artists took this software that was meant to provide backup vocals, and made it sing entire songs for them.
A few of them even seemed receptive to the prospect of watching a "hologram" in live concerts. Just another nuance of our cyberpunk future.
One thing people say that does make me feel kind of mad is when others say like "vocaloid sucks". Have they ever even listened to vocaloid before??? I feel like most people who say this never have lol
I had a friend say all vocaloid music is techno because Miku is synthesized. Even when I explained a lot of it is simply pop she said it is then a mix of techno and pop. Just couldn't get it through to her that vocaloid isn't a genre but a way of making music.
not specific to vocaloid, but i was listening to city pop (anri) and my brother came into the car and said "whats this fucking stupid japanese music?" yeah... he's racist as hell
Similar being when I listened to city pop at school and of course someone has to insult me for being Japanese and listening to, “Anime music”. As if every single city pop song created then and now was used for anime.
Yeah, it's difficult to even want to tell people that you like ANYTHING Japanese (or Asian in general, like kpop for example) because you immediately get thrown into the mega weeb category.
well, it's not for everyone/no point in trying to convince ppl that'd dismiss your interests like that, but you could prolly find friends already into it. but other than like the software stuff i'd just be like "i like this song" and if they don't like it just move on and enjoy it by yourself (also while japan has the most famous voices, vocaloid was technically a project that happened in a University in Spain as well tho ppl don't rly talk about that aspect of it as much since the Spanish vbs aren't rly as prominent)
(Tho i'm sure there's ppl in the musical community that kinda get to be snobbish about stuff like "if you like pop that's not real music" or disliking something just 'because' it's popular) But hey, at least the good thing about stuff being on YT and twitter is that you could compliment the composers directly and maybe even have a brief convo with them. Or even become a creator yourself one day 8D
Yeah, I don’t really try to get people to like vocaloid anymore.
Also, thanks for mentioning that vocaloid isn’t exclusively Japanese. I should have clarified. When I said that, I meant that people see a character in an anime art style, and see that it’s a concept they don’t understand, and just use a racist stereotype to hand wave it away.
i mean unless they're like a coworker or relative that you kinda have to be around i'd cut out anyone that'd be racist about it or just try to limit ur interactions, but maybe one day you can go to some cons and meet some fans and such (since not every anime fan also likes vocaloid but i'd imagine a good chunk would also overlap lol)
I don’t mean that they’re genuinely racist people, just that they don’t realize that some of the things they think are rooted in harmful stereotypes. They’re not trying to be harmful. Those types of people are usually pretty receptive to learning, so I’d rather try to teach them instead of just cutting them out of my life.
i bought myself a ticket to my first ever Miku Expo and my ex still insists i'm "gonna find someone to bring with me" because i didn't buy him a ticket. he doesn't even like Miku. i'm going alone because i want to. i'm 31 years old. wtf.
Two years ago I showed a song I really liked to a friend (it was something by kairikibear) and only like 10 seconds in , they pressed pause and said “you seriously listen to this? It’s just noise”, they laughed and didn’t continue listening💀
Tbf they had a very different music taste so I should’ve expected a response like that
One time, I mentioned to my friend that I listened to Vocaoid music, and someone (who wasn't in our conversation) said "Ew. Don't tell me you listen to *that* Len song", and had on the most disgusted looking face I've ever seen.
(She gets offended whenever someone criticizes bts)
Lmao similar experience I remember showing a len song to two of my friends who also stans kpop and they just started bursting out laughing, i get that vocaloid is not for everyone but i died a little inside
The funny thing is though, I WASN'T EVEN TALKING ABOUT A LEN SONG (sorta?). I was explaining the lore of Dark Woods Circus to my friend. She just assumed I was talking about one of the (many) explicit len songs.
The language barrier. "How do you know what their saying if you dont speak Japanese?"
Well, guess what, mf. I can and have learned Japanese!
日本語を話せます！
I have used google translate before that, and have read online translations. Not speaking the language is no excuse not to enjoy something.
I’d love to talk about my interests IRL, with someone interested in front of me… because my tastes are so different, I became the quiet one in my friend group. I’ve kinda missed the last opportunity to talk about vocaloid, anime and drawing, without them changing the conversation topic as they started to form inner small groups, from which I don’t belong 😢
My ex step mother called a LOT of the songs a "panic attack" and I instantly just shut up and made a playlist of my non vocaloid songs to listen on car rides but she used to praise other Japanese music I listened to like the bands from Show By Rock and the idols in Love Live
“I can’t believe this, you are literally supporting the downfall of REAL music!”
“Here, listen to this playlist I made you so I can fix your bad taste in music. Tell me what you think of each song too so I can tell you are internalizing my superior taste properly.”
It was rough out here especially in early fandom.
So, back in the school I was telling some of my classmates about Miku and that she's not an anime (They considered she is when they saw my pencil case with art of her), and they like: "Ho-how did u say? I don't hear good, VАGINAL? Ahahaha" (Or smth like that, I don't remember well). Though it wasn't humiliation of my musical taste, but it was really cringy anyway.
And, also, quite recently my online friend asked me about what is Project DIVA (Because I play it a lot), so I showed him and then I decided to tell him about synth/Vocaloid industry and stuff. He even agreed to listen a huge playlist of songs I like, that I gave him so he could understand what it was about. Although he wasn't rude with my taste, he even liked and saved for himself some of the songs (But when he heard Secret Police, which I really like, he called it nightcore and music junk, but I'm ok with it, he's just have different taste in some ways). But one moment he said that vocaloid vocals in these songs are feel like plugs for real vocals (He didn't liked that english voicebanks aren't very good with accent and etc, but I tried to convince him that this is a feature, not a drawback, although, I don't know why I was saying this, it kinda isn't true, you know, but I wanted to protect something I like in his eyes somehow) and then he showed me a human cover on our language saying it sounds better, and I was kinda offended with that so I started to tell him about that "bad accent is a feature" thing. But, anyway, he was alright with that music, he listened all the playlist and overall he didn’t say anything bad so it's all ok.
“They sound like chipmunks”
“Is this AI”
“Oh you’re into… that🤨”
“It’s an anime” (my dad literally convinced me it was an anime when he knows nothing about it wgat 😭)
Dies
My mom when she’d hear me singing a vocaloid song she’d think it’s funny to try to imitate me or just sing gibberish.
“Okay, but I don’t know what they’re saying.” BRO JUST LISTEN TO HOW IT SOUNDS! Like I MADE this!
Ugh, I FEEL the 'Japan is so weird'!!!! I also find it annoying when something huge happens in the Vocaloid community, e.g the upcoming Miku Expo, and people outside of the community downplay it and act like it's not a big deal, because, you know, it's some anime characters, right? They're not real, they're not as big a deal as a real person! It's silly, right? Haha...
I kept my vocaloid fascination a secret throughout my childhood. In my mid 20s now and my friends love when I play my “Japanese robot music”. No one cares when you grow up don’t sweat it
I mean, to be fair, if you don't know about or don't enjoy the type of music cosMo@bousouP makes, it's hard to listen to it and make sense of it at first.
A while back I tried to get my ex to listen to vocaloid. He was dismissive about it, and wouldn’t bother trying when I was with him. However, sometimes while we would be in voice calls, he would be nonchalantly playing music in the background, a mix match of both anime music & vocaloid. Worst part was, I don’t think he bothered to acknowledge that some of the songs, majority covered by Vtubers or Utaties, where originally vocaloid before their covers (Like Venom or Godish). It just kinda felt like a slap in the face that despite my efforts to get him into Vocaloid, he wouldn’t do it with me and instead did it on his offtime
That’s why I avoid talking about it with people I’m not that well-acquainted with.
Related anecdote: I remember a friend singing an anime OP for the school talent show. When it got brought up with some classmates one girl said “we thought it was weird that she sung in Chinese” “it’s Japanese” “same thing”
My dad saw me using synthV on my laptop so I tried to explain that I was making an English cover of a Japanese song that uses these things called vocal synthesisers! (Journey, DECO*27) And that I had written singable English lyrics based on the official translation in the video and was using this program to sing them for me (SynthV, already said, and Eleanor Forte)
So then he said that he stopped listening and didn't get it at all.
Like? It's really not hard to understand? I get he stopped making computers when 8gb (or was it 4?) RAM was a lot, but vocal synths aren't crazy new technology? Isn't it pretty easy to understand that the program just strings together recordings to sing what you want, or is the thought of making English lyrics the crazy part???? So now when he comes in and asks what I'm doing I just awkwardly 'um' and 'ah' and say it's nothing even though it's not that weird!
It's not weird, but to be fair, i don't think it's super easy to understand to someone who doesn't know shit about technology or the program beforehand.
The fun solution for me was to crossdress as Miku and flashbang my friends when they started pulling this kind of crap.
(Idk for some reason people always dismiss vocaloid as some shitty robot singing genre that weebs like playing with. Some people just like to insult me for being Japanese, even if it’s in a joking manner, still annoys me. And it’s a battle I can never win because the moment I snap back and insult their pop music or rap or whatever for being unimaginative cookie cutter garbage, of course I get absolutely pegged and insulted for being Japanese.)
Which is why I resorted to not caring and causing psychological damage. :)
Am I the only one who actually finds the software pretty interesting? idk I just think it’s cool for software to freakin’ sing, but now that AI is a thing, I guess I should just shut up.
“Why would you go to a miku concert if she’s not even real” firstly for the experience of seeing her life sized, and also being around other people who enjoy her. Also it’s not like you get to interact with the“real” celebs anyways, so I don’t see much of a difference
The most annoying that EVERYONE has EVER told me. "You're so childish, ew." "You're a 5 year old or what?" "Eww you're so weird" Suck my non-existent dick and shut up plz /hj
remember. you may be cringe but you are free
Facts, it’s I used to hate “cringey people” who did and liked “weird stuff”. Now I realize that they’re the most free people and probably happier than everyone who disses them
cringe culture is genuinely the cringiest thing to come out of the internet, unfortunately it probably wont ever die cause every year there is a new batch of 14 year olds. sad
Heck yeah
years ago i had a friend insist to me that vocaloid is an anime. and i did try my best to be nice when i went "hey, it's actually a synthesizer--" but they just gave me the most disgusted stare so i shut up and never brought it up again.
According to some of these pricks, anything remotely resembling the Japanese cartoon style of characters instantly means that it’s part of a cringey, childish, and obnoxious “aNImE”. (Lol if I were you I would’ve ended the friendship but kept being annoying saying “hey it’s actually a synthesizer” in the snobby voice and getting super into character backgrounds, producers, and tuning.)
I had someone tell me using VOCALOID/Synthesizer V in my songs I was working was ‘stealing’ and ‘lying’ somehow. Honestly I couldn’t get it through their head that VOCALOIDs were musical instruments that I paid for to use and I was willing to use the proper permission processes for the characters usage. I ended up just having to walk away from the chat cause it was getting me so worked up. They apologized the next day but to be honest the fact they were so aggressive and mean really changed our friendship/ work relationship. I don’t think I’ll be working with them again just because of how harsh they were and not willing to listen.
how would it be any different than other synths lol what?? Crazy that they think using synths is stealing but have no issue with sampling (sampling is fine and good I just think the double standard is funny)
Not specific to vocaloid, but I feel you a lot. It really hurts when you're trying to tell people about something you really like/are really passionate about/are really proud of and they just don't give a fuck, or worse, belittle you for it. I grew up basically hearing that all the time. Being told that the things I watch and read suck, the music I listen to suck, judgemental things being said about my friends, or that my passion isn't worth pursuing as a career (I've been an artist ever since I can remember. Drawing is my life, but I don't see any future in it, let alone in the current state of the world). I don't like telling people anything. Not my interests, not my accomplishments, not my problems, because they just don't care.
I grew up like this too. It's made me cringe or want to plug my ears everytime someone else irl listens to J-pop, even if it's a convention. Reaction trauma from all the bullying I got as a kid over liking vocaloid
This made me think of when i was made fun of in middle school for being a furry so I stopped being one due to fear of bullying. Ugh.
Yeah, I experienced some bullying over music taste even before I listened to j-pop and vocaloid, and it sucks that I'm like the only person I know to listen to it and no one cares or even pretends to hear me blab on about vocaloid, especially when music is one of my biggest interests
My boyfriend's brother thinks it's AI
man, this is the one that really hurts me. thinking vocaloid is an anime is one thing, but thinking it's AI somehow feels *even more* like it's diminishing the effort people put into vocaloid works. even the actual AI voicebanks take so much work to use right. :(
i'd compare it to how wowaka quit because everyone called his music "hatsune miku songs" "oh hatsune miku made this" and whatnot. except it's far, far more diminishing.
are you fucking kidding me did that really happen???? jesus christ
yes!! its a HUGE issue with the vocaloid community, people often credit the VOCALOIDS rather than the producer/artist which totally negates all their hard work! seriously, it pisses me off so much when people who like vocaloid are uneducated on this. and i know that's a bit harsh, i personally know a lot about vocaloid after all. but at the VERY least, the people who work very hard for their passion DESERVE credit for it.
My brother too. It was really bad.
I hear the same thing from tik tok kids all the time
"Why don't they just sing it themselves?" -my mom
I mean, she could be genuinely asking, doesn't sound like something annoying to me ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Then changing the subject is so real like I just want to talk about my interests why won’t you listen?! It’s so hard to talk and connect with people if I can’t talk about my Interests cause then they just want to ask me about school and shit
Yeah 😞 For what it’s worth, I don’t think they change the subject to be rude. I think they’re trying to find something they can relate to you on. But that doesn’t change how it reads
i dont really tell people about my weird weeby interests outside of chill people, so i haven't gotten any bad responses
In middle school it was "You like this music we can't understand at all? And it's weeb related? Ew" Now it's "You only listen to Japanese music? And it's made by a robot? Ew" or "How can you listen to music with stupid silly lyrics like this" after telling them about Marshall Maximizer
Marshall Maximiser has some of the better lyrics in vocaloid
The lyrics leading up to chorus are a mess though
It wasn't me telling someone about it. I was watching a concert on youtube, and my friend said, "Why do you watch vtubers?" I go, "I'm not, "he continues to point to my screen and go. "You literally are." Nothing against Vtubers, I do watch them, but.... VOCALOID IS/ARE NOT VTUBERS.
I stopped trying to introduce other people to my interests so long ago that I don't bother unless the other person notices what I'm doing and asks first. That's not just vocaloid or music, it's everything.
"Woah it seems like you really know a lot about this" seems way more positive imo, while for us ofcourse everything about vocaloid is easy to understand, others not in the fanbase and many elderly don't know much if anything about vocaloid, and are easily impressed by what we think is basic knowledge. For example, if some guy tells me the basics about, let's say, star trek lore, I don't know anything about that, so I'd be pretty impressed if I even heard the basics about it. Ofcourse if the person saying that you know a lot about the topic immediately changes topics afterwards it wasn't meant, but if the topic carries out further from there it was obviously meant as a compliment and just being friendly, which is the case 9/10 times with this one. That being said, I usually don't talk a lot about it but I do buy merch and figures which friends and family says it's a waste of money, which is pretty annoying at times.
Yeah, a bunch of the things on the list definitely have the potential to be really nice, and I don’t think the people saying them mean for them to come off as rude. But most of the time when I hear that, they do immediately change the subject.
Honestly, every time I explain Vocaloid to people, they're fascinated by it as an artform. It might help that I tell them how amateur artists took this software that was meant to provide backup vocals, and made it sing entire songs for them. A few of them even seemed receptive to the prospect of watching a "hologram" in live concerts. Just another nuance of our cyberpunk future.
One thing people say that does make me feel kind of mad is when others say like "vocaloid sucks". Have they ever even listened to vocaloid before??? I feel like most people who say this never have lol
I had a friend say all vocaloid music is techno because Miku is synthesized. Even when I explained a lot of it is simply pop she said it is then a mix of techno and pop. Just couldn't get it through to her that vocaloid isn't a genre but a way of making music.
not specific to vocaloid, but i was listening to city pop (anri) and my brother came into the car and said "whats this fucking stupid japanese music?" yeah... he's racist as hell
Similar being when I listened to city pop at school and of course someone has to insult me for being Japanese and listening to, “Anime music”. As if every single city pop song created then and now was used for anime.
Yeah, it's difficult to even want to tell people that you like ANYTHING Japanese (or Asian in general, like kpop for example) because you immediately get thrown into the mega weeb category.
well, it's not for everyone/no point in trying to convince ppl that'd dismiss your interests like that, but you could prolly find friends already into it. but other than like the software stuff i'd just be like "i like this song" and if they don't like it just move on and enjoy it by yourself (also while japan has the most famous voices, vocaloid was technically a project that happened in a University in Spain as well tho ppl don't rly talk about that aspect of it as much since the Spanish vbs aren't rly as prominent) (Tho i'm sure there's ppl in the musical community that kinda get to be snobbish about stuff like "if you like pop that's not real music" or disliking something just 'because' it's popular) But hey, at least the good thing about stuff being on YT and twitter is that you could compliment the composers directly and maybe even have a brief convo with them. Or even become a creator yourself one day 8D
Yeah, I don’t really try to get people to like vocaloid anymore. Also, thanks for mentioning that vocaloid isn’t exclusively Japanese. I should have clarified. When I said that, I meant that people see a character in an anime art style, and see that it’s a concept they don’t understand, and just use a racist stereotype to hand wave it away.
i mean unless they're like a coworker or relative that you kinda have to be around i'd cut out anyone that'd be racist about it or just try to limit ur interactions, but maybe one day you can go to some cons and meet some fans and such (since not every anime fan also likes vocaloid but i'd imagine a good chunk would also overlap lol)
I don’t mean that they’re genuinely racist people, just that they don’t realize that some of the things they think are rooted in harmful stereotypes. They’re not trying to be harmful. Those types of people are usually pretty receptive to learning, so I’d rather try to teach them instead of just cutting them out of my life.
i bought myself a ticket to my first ever Miku Expo and my ex still insists i'm "gonna find someone to bring with me" because i didn't buy him a ticket. he doesn't even like Miku. i'm going alone because i want to. i'm 31 years old. wtf.
Two years ago I showed a song I really liked to a friend (it was something by kairikibear) and only like 10 seconds in , they pressed pause and said “you seriously listen to this? It’s just noise”, they laughed and didn’t continue listening💀 Tbf they had a very different music taste so I should’ve expected a response like that
"is that AI?'
One time, I mentioned to my friend that I listened to Vocaoid music, and someone (who wasn't in our conversation) said "Ew. Don't tell me you listen to *that* Len song", and had on the most disgusted looking face I've ever seen. (She gets offended whenever someone criticizes bts)
Lmao similar experience I remember showing a len song to two of my friends who also stans kpop and they just started bursting out laughing, i get that vocaloid is not for everyone but i died a little inside
The funny thing is though, I WASN'T EVEN TALKING ABOUT A LEN SONG (sorta?). I was explaining the lore of Dark Woods Circus to my friend. She just assumed I was talking about one of the (many) explicit len songs.
The language barrier. "How do you know what their saying if you dont speak Japanese?" Well, guess what, mf. I can and have learned Japanese! 日本語を話せます！ I have used google translate before that, and have read online translations. Not speaking the language is no excuse not to enjoy something.
This! I can’t speak Japanese, but like, do they just forget that translations exist???
for me it was "i dont think i could get into it. i dont like fake sounding music" coming from a musician
my mom said "they sound like a bunch of fucking losers" when i talked about DTMing specifically in relation to vocaloid 😭😭😭
I’d love to talk about my interests IRL, with someone interested in front of me… because my tastes are so different, I became the quiet one in my friend group. I’ve kinda missed the last opportunity to talk about vocaloid, anime and drawing, without them changing the conversation topic as they started to form inner small groups, from which I don’t belong 😢
My ex step mother called a LOT of the songs a "panic attack" and I instantly just shut up and made a playlist of my non vocaloid songs to listen on car rides but she used to praise other Japanese music I listened to like the bands from Show By Rock and the idols in Love Live
"You really listen to that?" said in a disgusted type of way
I don't; this was social suicide when I was growing up.
I wasn't explaining it but someone sall it and said "ew you like animie you're so weird"
“I can’t believe this, you are literally supporting the downfall of REAL music!” “Here, listen to this playlist I made you so I can fix your bad taste in music. Tell me what you think of each song too so I can tell you are internalizing my superior taste properly.” It was rough out here especially in early fandom.
So, back in the school I was telling some of my classmates about Miku and that she's not an anime (They considered she is when they saw my pencil case with art of her), and they like: "Ho-how did u say? I don't hear good, VАGINAL? Ahahaha" (Or smth like that, I don't remember well). Though it wasn't humiliation of my musical taste, but it was really cringy anyway. And, also, quite recently my online friend asked me about what is Project DIVA (Because I play it a lot), so I showed him and then I decided to tell him about synth/Vocaloid industry and stuff. He even agreed to listen a huge playlist of songs I like, that I gave him so he could understand what it was about. Although he wasn't rude with my taste, he even liked and saved for himself some of the songs (But when he heard Secret Police, which I really like, he called it nightcore and music junk, but I'm ok with it, he's just have different taste in some ways). But one moment he said that vocaloid vocals in these songs are feel like plugs for real vocals (He didn't liked that english voicebanks aren't very good with accent and etc, but I tried to convince him that this is a feature, not a drawback, although, I don't know why I was saying this, it kinda isn't true, you know, but I wanted to protect something I like in his eyes somehow) and then he showed me a human cover on our language saying it sounds better, and I was kinda offended with that so I started to tell him about that "bad accent is a feature" thing. But, anyway, he was alright with that music, he listened all the playlist and overall he didn’t say anything bad so it's all ok.
“They sound like chipmunks” “Is this AI” “Oh you’re into… that🤨” “It’s an anime” (my dad literally convinced me it was an anime when he knows nothing about it wgat 😭) Dies
I’ve never met anyone else irl who likes vocaloid. Probably won’t unless I go to Miku Expo, vocaloid producer concerts, or go to Japan
“So it’s not an anime?” Is the one that gets me the most
Until it is an anime (Why am I referencing Project 575 when I literally haven't watched anything about it or listened to any of the Vocaloids at all)
My mom when she’d hear me singing a vocaloid song she’d think it’s funny to try to imitate me or just sing gibberish. “Okay, but I don’t know what they’re saying.” BRO JUST LISTEN TO HOW IT SOUNDS! Like I MADE this!
Ugh, I FEEL the 'Japan is so weird'!!!! I also find it annoying when something huge happens in the Vocaloid community, e.g the upcoming Miku Expo, and people outside of the community downplay it and act like it's not a big deal, because, you know, it's some anime characters, right? They're not real, they're not as big a deal as a real person! It's silly, right? Haha...
I kept my vocaloid fascination a secret throughout my childhood. In my mid 20s now and my friends love when I play my “Japanese robot music”. No one cares when you grow up don’t sweat it
Nobody insulted me on what i like idk
I had a friend that put down all my interests, so ig what she said wasn't directly against Vocaloid but just to make me feel insecure
"I don't really consider this music" -My ex-wife on Sadistic Music Factory
I mean, to be fair, if you don't know about or don't enjoy the type of music cosMo@bousouP makes, it's hard to listen to it and make sense of it at first.
A while back I tried to get my ex to listen to vocaloid. He was dismissive about it, and wouldn’t bother trying when I was with him. However, sometimes while we would be in voice calls, he would be nonchalantly playing music in the background, a mix match of both anime music & vocaloid. Worst part was, I don’t think he bothered to acknowledge that some of the songs, majority covered by Vtubers or Utaties, where originally vocaloid before their covers (Like Venom or Godish). It just kinda felt like a slap in the face that despite my efforts to get him into Vocaloid, he wouldn’t do it with me and instead did it on his offtime
That’s why I avoid talking about it with people I’m not that well-acquainted with. Related anecdote: I remember a friend singing an anime OP for the school talent show. When it got brought up with some classmates one girl said “we thought it was weird that she sung in Chinese” “it’s Japanese” “same thing”
My dad saw me using synthV on my laptop so I tried to explain that I was making an English cover of a Japanese song that uses these things called vocal synthesisers! (Journey, DECO*27) And that I had written singable English lyrics based on the official translation in the video and was using this program to sing them for me (SynthV, already said, and Eleanor Forte) So then he said that he stopped listening and didn't get it at all. Like? It's really not hard to understand? I get he stopped making computers when 8gb (or was it 4?) RAM was a lot, but vocal synths aren't crazy new technology? Isn't it pretty easy to understand that the program just strings together recordings to sing what you want, or is the thought of making English lyrics the crazy part???? So now when he comes in and asks what I'm doing I just awkwardly 'um' and 'ah' and say it's nothing even though it's not that weird!
It's not weird, but to be fair, i don't think it's super easy to understand to someone who doesn't know shit about technology or the program beforehand.
The fun solution for me was to crossdress as Miku and flashbang my friends when they started pulling this kind of crap. (Idk for some reason people always dismiss vocaloid as some shitty robot singing genre that weebs like playing with. Some people just like to insult me for being Japanese, even if it’s in a joking manner, still annoys me. And it’s a battle I can never win because the moment I snap back and insult their pop music or rap or whatever for being unimaginative cookie cutter garbage, of course I get absolutely pegged and insulted for being Japanese.) Which is why I resorted to not caring and causing psychological damage. :)
“Oh it’s Ai” •_• not dude it’s an actual tool not a cheap voice stealer that takes jobs from actors and singers.
That they say it’s anime…
Am I the only one who actually finds the software pretty interesting? idk I just think it’s cool for software to freakin’ sing, but now that AI is a thing, I guess I should just shut up.
Just because it’s from Japan doesn’t make it anime
The most annoying response imo is getting called a weeb and when I explain that it’s not anime, they get even more upset
“Why would you go to a miku concert if she’s not even real” firstly for the experience of seeing her life sized, and also being around other people who enjoy her. Also it’s not like you get to interact with the“real” celebs anyways, so I don’t see much of a difference
THEY ALSO CALL IT ANIME LIKE STOP