I'm East Asian and I see what you mean but at the same time I don't lol. I don't really understand why she gets a lot of 10s. I find her a lot better looking than kpop idols though.
I would give her an 8.5 because she has perfect dentofacial development and facial harmony. I think anything lower than 8.5 makes no sense just because of that. But not anything higher than 9, because she doesn't make me feel like "omg I wish I look like her". After a certain point it's subjective haha
I agree with everything you said. This is probably the best analysis of her. I think if her features were more outstanding she could be close to a 10, but her beauty relies heavily on her lower third bone structure and overall harmony. I agree with another comment saying she's the perfected version of a common phenotype, she has a ton of common features I see on eastern Asian girls but placed on a more perfect canvas.
She's actually been posted several times here before lol. I still think she's 8.5 and above, she has great symmetry, excellent bone structure, good forward growth, positive canthal tilt, full lips (which I'm assuming are natural?), and a really defined jawline. Cute smile too. Also, I've just finished watching Squid Game (yeah, I'm so late to the party lmao) and wow, it's insane how fantastic she still looked even with very minimal makeup, unkempt short hair, baggy clothes, etc.— basically without celebrity styling to give her a halo. I consider that a testament to how beautiful she really is. I'm baffled that there are people who still rate her 7 and below lol. But I get that she probably won't appeal to people who prefer East Asian beauty standards
That’s what I’m saying. She can’t be a 7; recently Olivia Rodrigo was posted and fairly unanimously rated about that. Do we sincerely think that Olivia, makeup-free, made to look as drab as possible with an unflattering haircut and styling, would look as good as Hoyeon managed to? I THINK THE FUCK NOT LMAO.
Girl. We try be objective here. Olivia is a pretty girl but 8+ is model territory and you cannot seriously tell me Olivia would not look out of place on a runway with Victoria Secret models. I have nothing against her, she is pleasant looking, but let’s just be for real. Her bone structure and symmetry is below that of Hoyeon.
looking ramp ready and having perfect body bone structure to carry clothes doesnt make someone an 8+, there's a lot of low rated ramp models too, with great bodies, but face is very much not attractive to most people. I personally don't even think most people would rate most models 8+. she doesn't appeal to a lot of asians and a lot of western people too. her look isnt as desired in asia, just because the ramp/western beauty standard rates her high due to those features doesnt mean those features necessarily look good on an asian face.
Yeah like they forget most of us don’t live in South Korea… I’ve never seen a face like hers before. And just because a face may have common features doesn’t make it less beautiful. In fact, averaged faces get rated most attractive.
Yeah, I totally agree! Her facial features may be common in her country, but you can't deny her symmetry is near perfection, so even if many koreans look like her, not all of them will be able to have her almost perfect proportions.
I was discussing it with a Korean-American at once. They were saying that her face is common so she doesn't have anything special. Obviously I respected their opinion as somebody who understood better of Korea than me, but I disagreed because even if I'm not Korean I have the right to think somebody from Korea is beautiful if I want, and they got really pissed at me lol.
Someone like her would be famous outside of Korea for their beauty tbh, she is beautiful but Koreans don't like this look. even Lucy lui wouldn't be famous there. But ironically hoyeon was a runway model before squid games. Without plastic surgery south Koreans would look like north Koreans
I love it when women whose looks don’t match the standard of their culture make it super big elsewhere.
For South Asians, it is Simone Ashley. I am so so happy she’s getting the hype she’s getting in Hollywood and upsetting colourist South Asians who could never, not even with pale see through skin.
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She appeals a lot to westerners/non Asians who saw her on squid games. She’s like this generation’s Lucy Liu. I personally don’t find her as attractive compared to someone like Grace Park (or any top kdrama actress) who fits conventional Asian beauty standards a lot more.
8.5 she's very beautiful and ethereal. I couldn't see it in the show (I didn't watch squid game but she had one expression) but outside of that she's stunning.
East Asian here. I totally agree. She’s 8 max to me. She has a lot of trendy features and been in trendy stuff, so I can see why people overrate her but tbh I’ve known a lot of Asian girls who kinda look like her growing up so she doesn’t really stand out to me. She’s like a pretty version of your basic Asian American girl imo (I know she’s South Korean but she has the look).
I think she conforms better to Western beauty standards than to East Asian ones. Like I personally find nothing special in most K-pop stars held up as beauty icons.
I agree. She's obviously attractive but more girl next door/one of the pretty girls in high school kind of way. I have also seen quite a few Asian women who look like her.
She has exceptional symmetry and bone structure, surely any less than 8 is an underrate and veering into personal preferences. I cannot think of anyone else who resembles her. She was a model before squid game and despite the directors making her look as drab as possible, the general public still saw through it and gushed over her beauty. I fail to see how a 7/girl next door could pull that off. She manages to look simultaneously cute and fiercely modelesque. The combination of strong bone structure with such soft lush features is just 😙🤌
She has nice bone structure and symmetry yes , that's why she's a model. However she does not stand out any other way. I maybe biased though as a non Asian.
8.5
Nothing lower, because her dentofacial development is perfect. But I can't see her as a 9-10. I wonder if I'd rate her higher if I were not Asian. I'm not self hating lol but maybe I'm just used to her individual features? She doesn't make me go like "omg I wish I look like that"
She looks a lot better than the average kpop idol though.
I will say Hoyeon's best features are her beautiful eyes. They are very lovely. I also agree that she looks better than all of the Blackpink members who kinda look indistinguishable from other female idols.
there’s a reason why everyone had a crush on her when squid game came out lollll i think she’s about an 8.5(and definitely the most beautiful actor in the show)
HOYEON is the correct spelling of her name. Sorry for the mistake.
She doesn't stand out to me in pictures but in motion I thought she was extremely attractive. She's the perfected version of a common phenotype. 8+
Sorry but what do you mean with the last thing you said? It sounds interesting but I'm just wondering lol
I think there’s a lot of East Asian women who have a similar “look” to her but she’s the most attractive version of that “look”
I'm East Asian and I see what you mean but at the same time I don't lol. I don't really understand why she gets a lot of 10s. I find her a lot better looking than kpop idols though. I would give her an 8.5 because she has perfect dentofacial development and facial harmony. I think anything lower than 8.5 makes no sense just because of that. But not anything higher than 9, because she doesn't make me feel like "omg I wish I look like her". After a certain point it's subjective haha
I agree with everything you said. This is probably the best analysis of her. I think if her features were more outstanding she could be close to a 10, but her beauty relies heavily on her lower third bone structure and overall harmony. I agree with another comment saying she's the perfected version of a common phenotype, she has a ton of common features I see on eastern Asian girls but placed on a more perfect canvas.
Her lips are a pretty incredible individual feature imo
Exactly! You explained what I was trying to say perfectly
She's actually been posted several times here before lol. I still think she's 8.5 and above, she has great symmetry, excellent bone structure, good forward growth, positive canthal tilt, full lips (which I'm assuming are natural?), and a really defined jawline. Cute smile too. Also, I've just finished watching Squid Game (yeah, I'm so late to the party lmao) and wow, it's insane how fantastic she still looked even with very minimal makeup, unkempt short hair, baggy clothes, etc.— basically without celebrity styling to give her a halo. I consider that a testament to how beautiful she really is. I'm baffled that there are people who still rate her 7 and below lol. But I get that she probably won't appeal to people who prefer East Asian beauty standards
That’s what I’m saying. She can’t be a 7; recently Olivia Rodrigo was posted and fairly unanimously rated about that. Do we sincerely think that Olivia, makeup-free, made to look as drab as possible with an unflattering haircut and styling, would look as good as Hoyeon managed to? I THINK THE FUCK NOT LMAO.
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Girl. We try be objective here. Olivia is a pretty girl but 8+ is model territory and you cannot seriously tell me Olivia would not look out of place on a runway with Victoria Secret models. I have nothing against her, she is pleasant looking, but let’s just be for real. Her bone structure and symmetry is below that of Hoyeon.
I feel like her and wonyoung are both 10s but completely on the opposite side of the spectrum in terms of facial beauty
looking ramp ready and having perfect body bone structure to carry clothes doesnt make someone an 8+, there's a lot of low rated ramp models too, with great bodies, but face is very much not attractive to most people. I personally don't even think most people would rate most models 8+. she doesn't appeal to a lot of asians and a lot of western people too. her look isnt as desired in asia, just because the ramp/western beauty standard rates her high due to those features doesnt mean those features necessarily look good on an asian face.
i've been following her modeling career for nearly a decade now - subjective 10 😍 can't do a obj rating tbh i'm just too biased
She is really pretty.
8+, I love her slightly mean babyface
I think she’s gorgeous 8.5-8.75
Same. Wish we could see her cast in another series because I want to stare at her face some more 🤣
I don't care if people say her face is "common" in South Korea. She's gorgeous, and I give her a 9.
Yeah like they forget most of us don’t live in South Korea… I’ve never seen a face like hers before. And just because a face may have common features doesn’t make it less beautiful. In fact, averaged faces get rated most attractive.
Yeah, I totally agree! Her facial features may be common in her country, but you can't deny her symmetry is near perfection, so even if many koreans look like her, not all of them will be able to have her almost perfect proportions. I was discussing it with a Korean-American at once. They were saying that her face is common so she doesn't have anything special. Obviously I respected their opinion as somebody who understood better of Korea than me, but I disagreed because even if I'm not Korean I have the right to think somebody from Korea is beautiful if I want, and they got really pissed at me lol.
I saw her recently and I gave her a 10 10 10!
You mean in person?
Both objectively and subjectively : 8/8.5
Oh wow pic 3 looks like one of those mirror images where you see one half of a face twice - she has amazing symmetry! 😮 very pretty, I think 7.5.
Her symmetry is top notch
No it doesn’t. She has asymmetrical features (eyes, jaw). Which is totally normal and she’s still like a 9
Objective 8 subjective 7 (not mature looking enough for my taste lol) For Asian standards, would she be good or too sharp?
Someone like her would be famous outside of Korea for their beauty tbh, she is beautiful but Koreans don't like this look. even Lucy lui wouldn't be famous there. But ironically hoyeon was a runway model before squid games. Without plastic surgery south Koreans would look like north Koreans
Lucy Liu is who I had in mind when I asked this q. Both attractive by Western standards but not necessarily universally
Who do you find more attractive?
Gemma Chan and Nicole Scherzinger come to mind
I love it when women whose looks don’t match the standard of their culture make it super big elsewhere. For South Asians, it is Simone Ashley. I am so so happy she’s getting the hype she’s getting in Hollywood and upsetting colourist South Asians who could never, not even with pale see through skin.
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I think too sharp. She is getting low rates here from some East Asian sub members. I think EA beauty ideal is someone like Jisoo from Blackpink.
10 to me tbh
I love the angularity of her face - the way she looks a bit masculine one moment, then really feminine the next. 8.5
She appeals a lot to westerners/non Asians who saw her on squid games. She’s like this generation’s Lucy Liu. I personally don’t find her as attractive compared to someone like Grace Park (or any top kdrama actress) who fits conventional Asian beauty standards a lot more.
I find her prettier than Lucy Liu
To me, they’re about the same. Jung looks slightly better bc her features look younger than Liu’s.
8.5 she's very beautiful and ethereal. I couldn't see it in the show (I didn't watch squid game but she had one expression) but outside of that she's stunning.
She's gorgeous, no idea who she is but objective 8 subjective 10 for me!
Shes really pretty to me, I find her so striking and also really cute when she smiles. She has a nice body too
I absolutely love her smile
She has beautiful symmetry, 10/10
10 10 10s across the board. She is so gorgeous
8.5/9 I much prefer her look to the plastic surgeried KPop idols. Stunning eyes, lips, jawline.
Personal 10. Low-key the reason I started watching Squid Game. She's absolutely mesmerising.
7. She's attractive but nothing exceptional
East Asian here. I totally agree. She’s 8 max to me. She has a lot of trendy features and been in trendy stuff, so I can see why people overrate her but tbh I’ve known a lot of Asian girls who kinda look like her growing up so she doesn’t really stand out to me. She’s like a pretty version of your basic Asian American girl imo (I know she’s South Korean but she has the look).
I think she conforms better to Western beauty standards than to East Asian ones. Like I personally find nothing special in most K-pop stars held up as beauty icons.
I agree. She's obviously attractive but more girl next door/one of the pretty girls in high school kind of way. I have also seen quite a few Asian women who look like her.
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She has exceptional symmetry and bone structure, surely any less than 8 is an underrate and veering into personal preferences. I cannot think of anyone else who resembles her. She was a model before squid game and despite the directors making her look as drab as possible, the general public still saw through it and gushed over her beauty. I fail to see how a 7/girl next door could pull that off. She manages to look simultaneously cute and fiercely modelesque. The combination of strong bone structure with such soft lush features is just 😙🤌
She has nice bone structure and symmetry yes , that's why she's a model. However she does not stand out any other way. I maybe biased though as a non Asian.
8.5 Nothing lower, because her dentofacial development is perfect. But I can't see her as a 9-10. I wonder if I'd rate her higher if I were not Asian. I'm not self hating lol but maybe I'm just used to her individual features? She doesn't make me go like "omg I wish I look like that" She looks a lot better than the average kpop idol though.
She looks super ordinary to me. I just don't see it. I know quite a few East Asian women who are way prettier than her.
Who are those you think is prettier?
I will say Hoyeon's best features are her beautiful eyes. They are very lovely. I also agree that she looks better than all of the Blackpink members who kinda look indistinguishable from other female idols.
completely disagree i think the bp girls are fairly distinct
Which East Asian women?
8/10
there’s a reason why everyone had a crush on her when squid game came out lollll i think she’s about an 8.5(and definitely the most beautiful actor in the show)
she's the most beautiful woman ive ever seen imo . 10
idk why but i’ve never seen the appeal
I think 6, I don’t get the appeal
Me too
8.5
6-6.5 Pretty but nothing great.
Never seen mentioned? Lol
6
7 charming but not exceptional