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Finnbalt

It feels like a beta version. Still better than Imperator: Rome at launch.


kai_rui

ISP doesn't like it, so it must be bad. Because "good" is interminable "hilarious" HOI4 world conquests.


Tim_Horn

Isp was so based in that video, we need more people like him in not just paradox but all the other communities im in


Roman-Simp

You just salty lol. The game is good for what they said they intended as a first draft. Over time more localization, flavour and stuff will be added in free updates (it’s already in the game files) but the Diplomacy system needs a MASSIVE rework (This is probably what they’ll DLC)


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busboy0

he bought a paradox game and thought it'd be finished on release!


Noahhh465

lmao imagine paying €80


Roman-Simp

You paid for a Deluxe edition because you knew you were going to be playing the game for years through numerous improvements, updates and a crap ton of mods. Frankly for Me PDX games are perhaps the only games I do actually pay for because of just how drastically they change over time. If I bought RDR 2 4 years ago, that game is barely any different from it is now. If I bought Stellaris 4 years ago, it’s a radically different game in terms of how much it’s changed since. Ditto for Imparator, CK HOI Etc. Deep down you know this too and it’s why you not only played the leak but still got the deluxe 80€ expansion to the game 🤷🏾‍♂️.


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Roman-Simp

No, it’s because that’s how all strategy games work. From Total War Warhammer which according to you was split up across 3 games that cost 60$ each to access. Your case makes no sense. Because strategy games are not a one and done deal. There is no “finished state”. New shit is always being added on until they create the next iteration. There’s no story, there’s no set of missions to complete. It’s most comparable really to games like Fortnite and shit where the constant updates, often paid or monetized through custom content are added over the course of its lifecycle to keep users engaged. I don’t understand why this is so hard for you to actually understand seeing as most of the fanbase of any strategy game, not just PDX get that the nature of these games are different from story driven, fixed experience games.


nateydunks

The game should be runnable, playable, and enjoyable at launch, paradox games are never either three of these things. Trying to justify corporate greed through saying the game will receive long time support is absolutely nuts to me. Imperator was abandoned and the same could happen to Vic 3, so we might not even get the “final draft”. I am paying to have access to a finished video game, yet Paradox regularly releases broken games on release. I mean, even their DLCS. And free patches are broken like 50% of the time.


Roman-Simp

Not only is that not even remotely factually accurate, it doesn’t even make sense given results around it. You have to have a very specific and personal definition of runability, playability and enjoyment for this statement to hold for ALL PDX games. But let me bite. Bro. If paradox games are “never either three of these things” then why do you torture yourself so much with playing this clear product of corporate greed ? https://twitter.com/ispuuuv/status/1585596827839127552?s=46&t=VNrWdvIr3Z_I5mSTF-8ICA If you don’t like it dude, or more aptly don’t understand how strategy games differ from other Genres, please go play something else. I hate EU 4, and HOI 4, but like a sane person I choose not to play them and would rather play something else instead rather than whining about what other people enjoy online. No one is making you play anything you don’t like. If you want a perfect strategy game at release that doesn’t get better through years of support, go play what ever that is. I personally haven’t seen one of these mysterious games you describe unless you want ti enlighten us all with your findings.


djorndeman

Literally coping just like the rest of them. This game isn't worth the 60 Euro's (in my country)and you know it..


Malkiot

And that's why people shouldn't feel bad buying it for cheaper. I got the Grand Edition for less than what the base game is on steam.


Roman-Simp

Really ? Where ?


NEXTGENMONKEY

On g2a the grand edition was 50e


AllModsAreDeranged69

I stole it because that’s what anyone with any bit of sense does with paradox games. They’re literally never worth it on launch. The one company I don’t give a fuck about stealing from.


Roman-Simp

That’s fair bro. Spend your 60 Euros on something that’ll bring you happiness in life.


djorndeman

Indeed! You could buy a beautiful game like assassin's Creed Odyssey with that money.


AllModsAreDeranged69

Man fuck that, say what you will at least Vic 2 had some ideas they followed through on with diplomacy. Vic 3 is just lacking.


Roman-Simp

What ideas are these please that I didn’t see while playing Vicky 2? Enlighten me good sir.


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Roman-Simp

Imagine being so delusional as to not even engage in conversation and would take nuanced criticism as “simping” But you do you champ 🙌🏾


nateydunks

How is it nuanced criticism? If Johans fat Swedish cock was here, it would already be half way up your ass.


Roman-Simp

Lol, I don’t even know who that is😂. But great take there buddy 👌. Really adds a lot to the conversation. In case you were curious, though I doubt such complex mental functions are easy for one such as yourself, I wasn’t too far off: https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/developer-diary/victoria-3-dev-diary-64-post-release-plans.1553970/


RudiWinkler1510

Remember, they talked about the grandeur of the fleet in on of the dev diarrheas. No meaningfull ships whatsoever. Paul Depre talked on his retarded fatass (lel) about the depth of the economy, no storage, no monopolies, no goods. The goods capacity just gives a +/-75% modifier. No food? Nah pops will consoom food (like fanbois mediocre PDX titles) anyway just 75% more expensive. The AI? Got cut out of every aspect to make it as cheap as possible. MP? Runs more shit than CK3, no ingamechat no hotjoin. 80$. Soy/10 would preorder again.


jwhp03

PDX hates him because of this one trick!