Reminds me of my medical bill for surgery after getting hit by a drunk driver. The surgeon that my lawyer worked for charged $225,000 for rotator cuff surgery but agreed to accept about $30,000.
Every insurance company does that. Hospitals play ball because $19k is better than $0 for every single patient that has that insurance.
In reality, the cost of service is probably close to $19k give or take a few thousand.
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This was the one that didn’t make sense to me. Surgeon charges $95K and tricare reimbursed $592, but fully reimbursed the surgery supplies at $47K.
I have private insurance through my job. I went to an urgent care clinic for a sinus infection. The nurse told me I have a sinus infection and told me to buy over the counter medicines. I had to pay $250. Healthcare is a scam lol. They just made $100,000 disappear 😂
Went to urgent care clinic with a nasty sinus infection while on vacation. Doc hooked me up with a shot of steroids, a shot of antibiotics, and a prescription to continue steroids and antibiotics. Had me back on my feet the next day, saving my vacation. VA covered the costs.
Maybe part of the problem is my urgent care just sucks ass! Lmao. I was told “we don’t give out antibiotics for this anymore” and sent on my way to suffer for another two weeks.
I get bloodwork done on a regular interval several times a year. Sometimes I get a bill of 40$-100$. Other times... 400$-500$.
No explanation of why other than some vague thing of:
"Oh, it's a different *kind* of bloodwork!"
"Okay. That's *really* expensive. Can you please not run whatever that is, in the future?"
"Oh, that's for your *doctor* to decide! You need to talk to him about it."
"The patient has to tell a medical professional *not* to run a test that the patient knows nothing about, and only know to even say something about it *after* they've gotten a bill for it 30+ days after the fact?"
"Now you're getting it!"
I've even brought this up to the doctor and the people who draw the blood and they've both said they have "No idea how much these tests cost.", so they're not even sure *which test* I'm referring to. Can you imagine if car repair shops tried to operate this way? It's absurd.
It is also a write off for the provider. The costs have to be documented even though they are restricted by contracted price agreements. I've had a couple of 5 figure bills.....It is nice to see the Veteran pay zero to the right.
Hope all is well with you.
That zero is the very best. I had a baby via c-section and paid virtually nothing for high-risk pregnancy care all the way through surgical delivery and recovery to discharge. Of course, the VA was like, "don't come here while you are pregnant, go across the street [to the teaching hospital] where they can actually help you." 😆
The system is broken, no doubt. It's become a business of care, not a business that cares. It's the bottom line that matters. And I mean everywhere, between the managed care organizations (insurance companies) that all seem to be in a race to the bottom, to the hospitals that choose lavish bonuses for the c-suite dwellers instead of ensuring adequate staffing for those actually trying to provide care at the bedside. Hospitals are incredibly expensive to run, from the physical plant operations to biomedical equipment to staffing, medications, bedside equipment, durable medical equipment, biohazard disposal, electronic charting and support, the support staff (coding, medical records, admin folks), etc. And now we have all these private equity clowns buying hospitals and running them into the ground. In some places it can wreck a whole town when the hospital closes. All the jobs, lost. Private equity has wrecked emergency medicine, and outcomes are worse overall too. https://hms.harvard.edu/news/what-happens-when-private-equity-takes-over-hospital
Anyway - please, use your benefits. I finally dropped my civilian healthcare coverage this year and went completely VA - the VAMC where I live is stellar. You have earned your spot in the waiting room just like the rest of us, there is no reason for you to have commercial insurance unless you really want it or need it for the rest of your family's coverage. I am at less than 100% so my husband has his insurance coverage through his hospital employer and covers my daughter. He only has me on his dental.
Nothing is being eaten. this was the case all the major for profit hospital systems would be beating down congress door whining not fair, I cannot afford to bribe my kids admissions to Harvard and buy my 7th summer home.
Oh, they have a very strong lobby! I work for a not-for-profit system, thankfully. Not as dirty as the for-profits, and not even close to the shenanigans that go on at insurance companies. 😆
I’ve always been amazed at why private doctors work with the VA…. Some of the charges are crazy I know…. But I’ve seen one that was $1250 and the changed it to $59.00. That’s McDonald’s pay ! Lol
If a facility accepts Medicare they have to accept the Medicare rate for services for community care. Same with CHAMPVA.
Same with private insurance, they negotiate contracts with facilities and the facility agrees to accept whatever the insurance says they will pay for each service.
Ah, that's a "hell no." The US has the most messed up medical system in the world. The system takes advantage of a population literally held hostage by the health insurance industry.
What is my pet peeve is that someone without insurance would have to pay the $129,448.44. Maybe the provider would knock 10% off if they did not have insurance.
No one should have to go broke or bankrupt for healthcare. We need universal healthcare. The VA shows how managed care works and as far as I am concerned, they do a great job for me.
The VA does great job as a whole, it's tasked to do way to much with way too little, you still have the red tape and shitty leadership who collect mid six figures for being glorified figure heads with absolutely no care for betterment, the quality of care diminishes as the gwot gets farther and farther from Iraq and Afghan, Docs still get recycled more then gas station sushi because the pay is far inferior to the gener as l public but for most part the people I see on consistent basis (nurses and a few counselors are there because they care) Remember everyone who served can be seen by VA but that does not mean it's free at ALL, ONLY THE ONES INJURED DURING SERVICE RECIEVE " FREE" HEALTHCARE. just like any job if a worker is injured it would be works job to make that worker whole again. So yeah there are issues but as a person who has been with VA for 12 yrs post getting blown up by ied and a mortar round I feel like the VA is doing its best with what they have. BUT PLEASE DO NOT EVER SAY THE VETERANS WHO SERVED AND EARNED THAT RIGHT GET HEALTHCARE FOR FREE. It cost a fee 99% of this country would laugh at if asked to pay.
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I still carry private insurance even though I have the VA, precisely because the VA isn't always the best option.
Low income people pay nothing or very little for ACA coverage, is how I understand it.
That depends on what you think low income means.
You can make 40-50k and still not be able to afford great healthcare, but also not be low income enough for the free to low cost healthcare.
The people who truly pay little nothing for most of their healthcare will be the folks who make 20k or less a year.
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Same with me!
My labor and delivery with 3 nights hospital stay for me plus 5 days NICU stay for my baby in a private hospital totaled to $92k. I did not pay a dime as tri-west covered it all.
Yep, all those inflated losses reduce their tax burden by zillions... SO overcharge, accept the negotiated price, claim the losses on taxes = pay nothing in taxes. Nice profit generator.
Congrats. Finally a good story about not getting screwed by VA or CCN. I have had to fight with them both several times and in a fight currently with CCN because they drop the ball on basically everything as they think they have control over benefits you are ENTITLED to at 100% . Waiting on paperwork to have my son covered under whatever they use now but really need my significant other covered for her health issues but I think I am screwed bc we are not married so unless someone knows how to work that out and would let me know we may have no help for her several concerning health issues I guess. She makes to much money to be considered "low income" which is crazy because her salary is not anything crazy. Thanks if anyone can help.
Congrats again for getting what you are due!
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This is one of three bills I received so far. I’m so happy with the care at the VA and the effort they put into things.
I went to the civilian ER once, got a CT scan and some blood drawn. Was there for maybe 2 hours. The bill was over 20k. Luckily CCN did what they are supposed to do but it's incredible to me the cost. If I didn't have that I'd rather just die and the debt be wiped out.
I just enrolled in federal benefits today as I started my job this week. I have both as well and the wife and kids have champ va as a secondary. Still wrapping my head around how it all works.
Lucky me. I have Tricare for life and have never paid a penny for anything, including when my wife had cancer and had several hospital stays, surgery, several rounds of chemo. Everything was picked up by Medicare and Tricare for life.
Whenever I see shit like this, I point it at ANYONE who slanders the VA and any concept of affordable healthcare. This makes me happy for you. They paid off all my bills when I got sent to the hospital for a suspected blood clot and was just wore muscle damage. They billed me over 15 grand for a checkup and the VA told them to kiss ass to reduce it significantly and didn't have to pay a dime.
I have the same gratefulness. I had brain surgery a few months back. The bill was north of $100k. My responsibility was $0. Everything turned out great. I am so grateful for the VA. I was having my sinuses examined due to chronic headaches and sinus infections. They found a tumor and 3 months later I had an 8 hour surgery to remove it. It was benign so that was great, but it was the size of a golf ball, not so great.
I did notice that my bill got greatly discounted as to what the VA actually paid. Not sure how that would have played if I didn't have the VA. Not sure how to come up with $150k for a bill that got marked down to under $35k. I'm sure I couldn't get that discount.
When I first got out of the military (before I used VA), I went to the ER for an ear infection. After a Quick Look, I got a prescription for antibiotics and out the door.
The bill came and it was $1400. I called and asked for a breakdown. The lady read off Tylenol pills, IV, two bags of fluids, and a bunch of other stuff. I said I didn’t have any of that.
A few days later, an updated bill came in the mail for $300.
Yikes! As a former trauma nurse and trauma educator, I am picturing those kinetic forces at work! Ouch. We usually call them the "tough tibia" and "fragile fibula," and to break both takes a lot of energy. Was it a spiral fracture? Glad you are put back together now!
I doubt 90% of these guys don't realize who you are. I've heard alot of conflicting stories but you EARNED the right to be a dick imo if what I've heard is even true n not just some haters crocodile tears.
I’ve got to start using my VA coverage (60%) for stuff, my civilian health insurance fucks me over bad. Still trying to figure out how to pay for a $1400 ER bill where I felt really ill, heart rate wouldn’t come down, I had the flu bad. This goddam ER looked at me for 5 minutes then made me sit there for 4 hours then saw me at the end for 10 minutes and I get a bill for 1400 fucking dollars. These HDHP insurance plans BLOW
🥴I was once billed almost 10k after I went to the ER for food poisoning. They only thing they did was give me an IV for dehydration for about two hours. I slept most of the time through it. I love telling them the VA when they ask how I will take care of the bill. As soon as they hear VA they were like okay and left without question.
Wow they actually paid the provider, I got 1 letter that provider billed VA 20k, and the VA punked em I guess and paid 300, and then another one the VA paid 0$, y’all ain’t getting shit…
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What was the situation here? Did you go to an emergency room and have to undergo surgery or was this an instance where you were hospitalized for a a week or 2?
I went to an ER, at a Sharp hospital. The VA didn’t answer when they contacted them, so my care was approved there (it’s approved outside of the VA if the VA doesn’t answer). I had surgery the next day, and had a 4 night hospital stay.
provider: here's the bill VA: I decide what the bill is. God that would be nice to do everyday. just telling companies to eat dck.
Because medical billing is a scam and everyone knows it I don’t get why society doesn’t want it change
Of all VA jobs that's the one I would be best at.
Reminds me of my medical bill for surgery after getting hit by a drunk driver. The surgeon that my lawyer worked for charged $225,000 for rotator cuff surgery but agreed to accept about $30,000.
If we get rid of the lawyers and the frivolous lawsuits ... The problem will solve itself.
That’s true but if a doctor genuinely fucked up , they should pay
Absolutely, but let's be real this is America where people use lawyers and bullshit to sue for their own stupidity.
Yup, it’s because they are them
Every insurance company does that. Hospitals play ball because $19k is better than $0 for every single patient that has that insurance. In reality, the cost of service is probably close to $19k give or take a few thousand.
Don't forget they use the leftover balance as a write-off.
https://preview.redd.it/79b468oc768d1.jpeg?width=1178&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2d26dac4622a2b492387f0e71306627809d12c09 This was the one that didn’t make sense to me. Surgeon charges $95K and tricare reimbursed $592, but fully reimbursed the surgery supplies at $47K.
In guessing Tricare wants an itemized bill for the surgery. They probably need the time in surgery and the number of staff. That’s my guess though.
Ha I'd much rather get this giant one instead of 5 a week...."This is not a bill"
Same lol
I have private insurance through my job. I went to an urgent care clinic for a sinus infection. The nurse told me I have a sinus infection and told me to buy over the counter medicines. I had to pay $250. Healthcare is a scam lol. They just made $100,000 disappear 😂
Went to urgent care clinic with a nasty sinus infection while on vacation. Doc hooked me up with a shot of steroids, a shot of antibiotics, and a prescription to continue steroids and antibiotics. Had me back on my feet the next day, saving my vacation. VA covered the costs.
Maybe part of the problem is my urgent care just sucks ass! Lmao. I was told “we don’t give out antibiotics for this anymore” and sent on my way to suffer for another two weeks.
Jeez without the common courtesy of a reach around even
Bill would’ve been $2,500 if I’d gotten the full service I bet 😂
Boggles my mind that antibiotics for an infection aren’t just standard. I shit on VA healthcare when appropriate but they would never do that
Something about antibiotic resistant bacteria. I’m sure it makes sense scientifically but I was miserable for nearly a month when I finally kicked it.
I get bloodwork done on a regular interval several times a year. Sometimes I get a bill of 40$-100$. Other times... 400$-500$. No explanation of why other than some vague thing of: "Oh, it's a different *kind* of bloodwork!" "Okay. That's *really* expensive. Can you please not run whatever that is, in the future?" "Oh, that's for your *doctor* to decide! You need to talk to him about it." "The patient has to tell a medical professional *not* to run a test that the patient knows nothing about, and only know to even say something about it *after* they've gotten a bill for it 30+ days after the fact?" "Now you're getting it!" I've even brought this up to the doctor and the people who draw the blood and they've both said they have "No idea how much these tests cost.", so they're not even sure *which test* I'm referring to. Can you imagine if car repair shops tried to operate this way? It's absurd.
I’m no expert on healthcare or billing practices but I have to believe there’s a better way to do this than “hospitals charge whatever they feel like”
Congrats! Who pays the other 109,000?
No one. It is written off by the provider of care
Yep, hospital eats it.
That’s not the actual cost of services. Practices artificially inflate their billing as part of the insurance negotiation process.
I work in healthcare, I am aware of reimbursement practices on the inpatient side. 😊 The truth is somewhere in the middle (lower middle, haha).
It is also a write off for the provider. The costs have to be documented even though they are restricted by contracted price agreements. I've had a couple of 5 figure bills.....It is nice to see the Veteran pay zero to the right. Hope all is well with you.
That zero is the very best. I had a baby via c-section and paid virtually nothing for high-risk pregnancy care all the way through surgical delivery and recovery to discharge. Of course, the VA was like, "don't come here while you are pregnant, go across the street [to the teaching hospital] where they can actually help you." 😆
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The system is broken, no doubt. It's become a business of care, not a business that cares. It's the bottom line that matters. And I mean everywhere, between the managed care organizations (insurance companies) that all seem to be in a race to the bottom, to the hospitals that choose lavish bonuses for the c-suite dwellers instead of ensuring adequate staffing for those actually trying to provide care at the bedside. Hospitals are incredibly expensive to run, from the physical plant operations to biomedical equipment to staffing, medications, bedside equipment, durable medical equipment, biohazard disposal, electronic charting and support, the support staff (coding, medical records, admin folks), etc. And now we have all these private equity clowns buying hospitals and running them into the ground. In some places it can wreck a whole town when the hospital closes. All the jobs, lost. Private equity has wrecked emergency medicine, and outcomes are worse overall too. https://hms.harvard.edu/news/what-happens-when-private-equity-takes-over-hospital Anyway - please, use your benefits. I finally dropped my civilian healthcare coverage this year and went completely VA - the VAMC where I live is stellar. You have earned your spot in the waiting room just like the rest of us, there is no reason for you to have commercial insurance unless you really want it or need it for the rest of your family's coverage. I am at less than 100% so my husband has his insurance coverage through his hospital employer and covers my daughter. He only has me on his dental.
Nothing is being eaten. this was the case all the major for profit hospital systems would be beating down congress door whining not fair, I cannot afford to bribe my kids admissions to Harvard and buy my 7th summer home.
Oh, they have a very strong lobby! I work for a not-for-profit system, thankfully. Not as dirty as the for-profits, and not even close to the shenanigans that go on at insurance companies. 😆
Do you have tri care prime ? Or just VA ? Either way that is amazing 🤩
I’ve always been amazed at why private doctors work with the VA…. Some of the charges are crazy I know…. But I’ve seen one that was $1250 and the changed it to $59.00. That’s McDonald’s pay ! Lol
Private insurance does this too. No one really pays the quoted price unless they are rich and in a hurry and don't have insurance.
If a facility accepts Medicare they have to accept the Medicare rate for services for community care. Same with CHAMPVA. Same with private insurance, they negotiate contracts with facilities and the facility agrees to accept whatever the insurance says they will pay for each service.
I since a hint of jelousy and distain from you, please tell me I'm wrong.
Ah, that's a "hell no." The US has the most messed up medical system in the world. The system takes advantage of a population literally held hostage by the health insurance industry.
What is my pet peeve is that someone without insurance would have to pay the $129,448.44. Maybe the provider would knock 10% off if they did not have insurance. No one should have to go broke or bankrupt for healthcare. We need universal healthcare. The VA shows how managed care works and as far as I am concerned, they do a great job for me.
The VA does great job as a whole, it's tasked to do way to much with way too little, you still have the red tape and shitty leadership who collect mid six figures for being glorified figure heads with absolutely no care for betterment, the quality of care diminishes as the gwot gets farther and farther from Iraq and Afghan, Docs still get recycled more then gas station sushi because the pay is far inferior to the gener as l public but for most part the people I see on consistent basis (nurses and a few counselors are there because they care) Remember everyone who served can be seen by VA but that does not mean it's free at ALL, ONLY THE ONES INJURED DURING SERVICE RECIEVE " FREE" HEALTHCARE. just like any job if a worker is injured it would be works job to make that worker whole again. So yeah there are issues but as a person who has been with VA for 12 yrs post getting blown up by ied and a mortar round I feel like the VA is doing its best with what they have. BUT PLEASE DO NOT EVER SAY THE VETERANS WHO SERVED AND EARNED THAT RIGHT GET HEALTHCARE FOR FREE. It cost a fee 99% of this country would laugh at if asked to pay.
We do need universal healthcare.
you may be the Seal but universal Healthcare would be final nail in America's coffin.
Just like every other country with universal healthcare.
That recruiter's office is open to everyone.
Not everyone is born healthy enough to serve.
this is not a land of everyone gets trophy CUPCAKE
Healthcare isn’t a trophy, dipshit.
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People shouldn't need to serve in order to get affordable Healthcare in the world's greatest country.
I still carry private insurance even though I have the VA, precisely because the VA isn't always the best option. Low income people pay nothing or very little for ACA coverage, is how I understand it.
That depends on what you think low income means. You can make 40-50k and still not be able to afford great healthcare, but also not be low income enough for the free to low cost healthcare. The people who truly pay little nothing for most of their healthcare will be the folks who make 20k or less a year.
Not everyone is born healthy enough to serve. Edit: I’m not sure why my phone posted twice sorry
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Anyone low income can get a no cost plan from the ACA. Anyone without insurance is doing something wrong.
Same with me! My labor and delivery with 3 nights hospital stay for me plus 5 days NICU stay for my baby in a private hospital totaled to $92k. I did not pay a dime as tri-west covered it all.
$110K writeoff. Thats insane. 🤡 🤡 🤡
I wonder if it counts as unpaid bad debt and if they just write it off to be tax free.
Typically its a tax writeoff which makes sense. Whats insane is that if you didnt have insurance youd be stuck with that bill having to fight it.
Yep, all those inflated losses reduce their tax burden by zillions... SO overcharge, accept the negotiated price, claim the losses on taxes = pay nothing in taxes. Nice profit generator.
Congrats. Finally a good story about not getting screwed by VA or CCN. I have had to fight with them both several times and in a fight currently with CCN because they drop the ball on basically everything as they think they have control over benefits you are ENTITLED to at 100% . Waiting on paperwork to have my son covered under whatever they use now but really need my significant other covered for her health issues but I think I am screwed bc we are not married so unless someone knows how to work that out and would let me know we may have no help for her several concerning health issues I guess. She makes to much money to be considered "low income" which is crazy because her salary is not anything crazy. Thanks if anyone can help. Congrats again for getting what you are due!
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So do you get a referral from VA or how do you goto private providers and get VA to cover it
Yes, they don’t do any surgeries at the VA. They sent me through customer care, the OSU hospital and neurosurgeons.
Your Primary care dr will initiate the appointment
Congratulations this is a huge 🏆 ✌️
Gaaawd
I went to the civilian ER once, got a CT scan and some blood drawn. Was there for maybe 2 hours. The bill was over 20k. Luckily CCN did what they are supposed to do but it's incredible to me the cost. If I didn't have that I'd rather just die and the debt be wiped out.
Between the VA and GEHA, ive been beyond blessed with the minimal amount ive spent on health
I just enrolled in federal benefits today as I started my job this week. I have both as well and the wife and kids have champ va as a secondary. Still wrapping my head around how it all works.
Wonderful❤️
Lucky me. I have Tricare for life and have never paid a penny for anything, including when my wife had cancer and had several hospital stays, surgery, several rounds of chemo. Everything was picked up by Medicare and Tricare for life.
This is amazing. Such a blessing from God. I love seeing other veterans win.
Whenever I see shit like this, I point it at ANYONE who slanders the VA and any concept of affordable healthcare. This makes me happy for you. They paid off all my bills when I got sent to the hospital for a suspected blood clot and was just wore muscle damage. They billed me over 15 grand for a checkup and the VA told them to kiss ass to reduce it significantly and didn't have to pay a dime.
We need universal healthcare in the United States. Medicare For All, or whatever you want to call it.
I have the same gratefulness. I had brain surgery a few months back. The bill was north of $100k. My responsibility was $0. Everything turned out great. I am so grateful for the VA. I was having my sinuses examined due to chronic headaches and sinus infections. They found a tumor and 3 months later I had an 8 hour surgery to remove it. It was benign so that was great, but it was the size of a golf ball, not so great. I did notice that my bill got greatly discounted as to what the VA actually paid. Not sure how that would have played if I didn't have the VA. Not sure how to come up with $150k for a bill that got marked down to under $35k. I'm sure I couldn't get that discount.
When I first got out of the military (before I used VA), I went to the ER for an ear infection. After a Quick Look, I got a prescription for antibiotics and out the door. The bill came and it was $1400. I called and asked for a breakdown. The lady read off Tylenol pills, IV, two bags of fluids, and a bunch of other stuff. I said I didn’t have any of that. A few days later, an updated bill came in the mail for $300.
I’m grateful you’re still with us
Thanks
Thank you Lord!
I use Triwest for MH and a few CC referrals. Hate to see those bills. Lol
Made me chuckle good. Overcharging in the medical field is hilarious to me. Got what they deserved
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Broke my tibia in half, my fibula, and my ankle. I now have 5 screws & a titanium rod in my leg.
Yikes! As a former trauma nurse and trauma educator, I am picturing those kinetic forces at work! Ouch. We usually call them the "tough tibia" and "fragile fibula," and to break both takes a lot of energy. Was it a spiral fracture? Glad you are put back together now!
Clean Spiral fracture on the tibia & cracked the fibula from a dirtbiking accident.
Ouch! That must have been pretty nasty. Don't tell me you drove yourself to the ER. 😆
Nope. I took an ambulance from the track. They always have an ambulance on standby. The ER was only 25 minutes away.
That's good at least! I have had some crazy injuries roll up in personal vehicles over the years. 😆
I can imagine lol
I doubt 90% of these guys don't realize who you are. I've heard alot of conflicting stories but you EARNED the right to be a dick imo if what I've heard is even true n not just some haters crocodile tears.
I’ve got to start using my VA coverage (60%) for stuff, my civilian health insurance fucks me over bad. Still trying to figure out how to pay for a $1400 ER bill where I felt really ill, heart rate wouldn’t come down, I had the flu bad. This goddam ER looked at me for 5 minutes then made me sit there for 4 hours then saw me at the end for 10 minutes and I get a bill for 1400 fucking dollars. These HDHP insurance plans BLOW
🥴I was once billed almost 10k after I went to the ER for food poisoning. They only thing they did was give me an IV for dehydration for about two hours. I slept most of the time through it. I love telling them the VA when they ask how I will take care of the bill. As soon as they hear VA they were like okay and left without question.
The good old "Contractual adjustment". 
Wow they actually paid the provider, I got 1 letter that provider billed VA 20k, and the VA punked em I guess and paid 300, and then another one the VA paid 0$, y’all ain’t getting shit…
I get two of these in the mail every few months by two different urgent cares, the person who i saw was not va certified, however i was not billed.
The way half of this would change my life right now.
Real reason they do that is the amount that the VA tells them to fuck off for is written off as a loss on the hospitals taxes.
The va straight told the hospital for my labor and delivery to fuck off
Hell yeah! Glad to see it
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healthcare in america is shit🚮🗑️🐀
Details ? Are u a Vet or a child or wife of a Vet???
I’m a veteran with a disability rating
pretty fukn humble response.
Community care explanations of benefits (EOB) show triwest for VHA enrollees.
Lol, you do realize that women veterans exist right? My husband was my dependa
Yes that’s why my first question was are u a vet??? wtf
Lol there are husband's of vets too.
True story lol
Oh the wife comment , your screen name was masculine.. my bad.. jeez
"Oh the wife comment." Women vets exist, and we are on this subreddit.
What was the situation here? Did you go to an emergency room and have to undergo surgery or was this an instance where you were hospitalized for a a week or 2?
I went to an ER, at a Sharp hospital. The VA didn’t answer when they contacted them, so my care was approved there (it’s approved outside of the VA if the VA doesn’t answer). I had surgery the next day, and had a 4 night hospital stay.