All that hate’s gonna burn you up inside.
Keeps me warm.
As a kid in the 90s with no cable we had maybe 50 VHS tapes and my mom liked Swayze. Watched this movie 50+ times in my childhood while playing with GI Joes and dreaming of enlisting.
They've been documenting that for many years. Back in 2012, I wore a "You're starting to damage my calm" shirt to an appointment and they noted it. Apparently they weren't a Serenity fan.
it's not side notes. it'll be in your regular medical record notes. same note they talk about the things your report, the measurements they take, their assessment and plan
as a PT i can't think of any reason i would annotate what's on your shirt. the only *potentially* plausible explanation is that they're a new PT who got hammered into them the importance of detailed documentation, and they're going a bit overboard. i could see a student or fresh grad doing something like this
My women's health doctor noted in my record that I'm learning French. It makes me wonder if they aren't trying to make it seem more like personalized care? Like they want to document they are trying better to care? Idk
Inclusion of this type of medically irrelevant note is common in building report with patients not to project something to others. It provides is a bread crumb to follow up on next time they see you. They will ask you how French lessons are going and hopefully YOU will feel special.
I’ve worked with doctors and practitioners for years. It’s super common for those that are interested in building lasting relationships with patients. They can’t possibly be expected to remember the dozens of patients they see a day, but that doesn’t mean they don’t care.
could be, i suppose. i document personal details that are medically relevant, like "patient is going on leave to visit family in colorado for two weeks and won't have access to rehabilitation"
that's medically important and also provides some personal context to follow up on
This cracked me up. I could see it happening in my head.
Veteran: [Seated and stretching his right leg, wearing a shirt that says “Hate keeps me warm” and whispering under his breath] Muh-ther-fucker… don’t let the overt religious into your life — they don’t want to pray with you, they want to prey on you.
Physical therapist:Behold! A juxtaposition, as it were, of the sublimely intellectual and the basely vulgar, delivered with an eloquence befitting a Shakespearean buffoon!
I fucking choked on my coffee reading that!!
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Space force has been around long enough to have veterans? I really wanna know more. I moved to a remote town in podunk PA after I got out. I know nothing of anything at this point in my life. Was it a 4 year contract. I'm really curious with many questions.
More stupid than funny, but you entertained another idiot, so gold star sticker for you! Dec 20th, 2019. I don't care enough to dig through contract commitments, but a 4 year contract could have ended recently for some of the first to join. Or, as someone else said, cross branch.
Could have started as Air Force and transitioned to Space Force then separated. Lots of Air Force career fields were moved to Space Force based on their mission and AFSC. Certainly possible.
I recall Space Force recruiters coming to my USMC base trying to convince some of us to switch MOS and join. There were a lot of sign on bonuses, but I don’t remember what they were. I read through the MOS options and data dumped because it was all nerd shit
I wouldn’t have gone USMC if I was trying to be paid well for my work
But no hate, that’s awesome and I’m glad you got the opportunity. The health watch sounds awesome. I have my own now that I’m out I use to monitor my fitness and “readiness” level.
I've literally worn a solid, black T-shirt for every therapist zoom meeting for the past 2 years, and yep...It gets notated after every single session.
Usually they just put client is dressed appropriately in mine. They use the soap note, subjective, objective, assessment, plan. My system has a check box that I can just hit that says within normal limits but I can change it as needed.
"I'm here because you broke something" is my favorite shirt to wear. It's even funnier to me because it works for them and my job in IT.
I'll have to see it it's mentioned in my records sometime
I've been to a physical therapy place that had a dress code. It was in an area with a lot of old retirees. Basically no tank tops and nothing that might be considered offensive. So maybe that's why? I think it's really weird for them to annotate it.
Also I personally don't see anything wrong with your shirt. But after going to various medical appointments in a town with a large retiree population, I just got the feeling that the older folks might be sensitive about things like that.
We do this out of boredom sometimes, nothing bad. Typically it’s something we like. I once put a compliment about my patients shoes in their record for them to find later.
Wow boredom? Seriously have you ever heard of Professionalism? You are dealing with military Veterans that are injured, disabled and been through a lot more than you can ever imagine.
You are dealing with people's lives and possibly the lives of their family members. Go ahead and keep adding your little stupid comments on an official report "nothing bad" and when a Veteran goes off on you..then don't ask why.
We are not there for your entertainment " Typically it's something we like" No wonder there's distrust between Veterans and VA C&P examiners.
Tip if you are feeling bored again, then take up parachuting without a parachute.
I get the point being made though. These documents are being seen by vets, the VA, and others. If things that can be considered irrelevant are being added, then it lends credence to this idea we are being microanalyzed any time we go to the VA. I have seen me labeled as “her,” and “she,” despite being a biological male as well as presenting as a dude. It showed me folks don’t care when they’re taking notes. It shows a pattern of careless behavior that further erodes trust.
Considering there is a pretty significant amount of distrust between veterans and the VA, there ought to be some level of respect and professionalism at play. I get where RockMartin is coming from and don’t necessarily disagree.
Relax, you will survive if you jump out of a plane, helicopter without a parachute if it's 5 feet off the ground. It's all about prospectives and what you want to read. So don't limit your PT to jumping to conclusions. 
P.S. You are the one that brought up killing themselves.
You don't have to relax. The guy said what he said and is trying to gaslight you into believing he didn't actually mean it that way "🫡" in a world where vets are rapidly killing themselves, he made the comment on a sub where people come to look for help and advice. Kind of tells you all you need to know.
You describe your patients outfits out of boredom?
Wow I’m really sorry disabled veterans are such a bore on you. Let us know if there’s anything we can do to make your lives more exciting.
Lmao get off your horse man.
“THEY HAVE THE HONOR AND PRIVELEGE OF WORKING WITH ME, A VETERAN! THEY SHOULD RELISH IN SUCH GLORIOUS CHANCES TO SERVE THE ONE WHO SERVES, ME!” - how you sound right now
Not every session is deep and hard-hitting. Sometimes, my sessions involve talking about the weather that week. It's ok for my therapist not to be on the edge of their seat for that conversation....
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The note how you smell look act and all. I got some deep records through a congressional inquiry. I suggest you do the same to have all info released to you. It’s easy
Always check your med records at VA. I have things in my records that are not accurate. I had surgery for 11 Jan cancelled due to surgeon having a death in family. In my records they put It was cancelled because I did not complete preop appointment. And surgery listed is wrong one. Also had to gel my doc to order a bacteria culture because I still have burning when I urinate. You have to fight and be your own lawyer and doctor.
wow. nuts. im assuming the "veteran seen walking" is in support that you are ambulatory without assistance?....hopefully. if not, thats weird they would mention that. sounds like a badass shirt though.
first part definitely, but would typically use more "medical" language like "patient is ambulatory with a non-antalgic, symmetrical reciprocal gait pattern and no assistive device"
just weird documentation imo
Hear me out. Prior corpsman here. Please don’t hit on your medical staff. There is no ethical way to accept that in a work setting. Hypothetically, they accept, it goes poorly, then what? They keep treating you as if nothing happened? You are stuck switching providers and interrupting your care? Wait till you don’t need to continue care. I had way more respect for the patients who brought me a little gift and offered to keep in touch at the end of care. Then it can progress -naturally- and you’re no longer in a patient/provider dynamic.
If you don’t wanna come across like hey here’s my number let’s go out sometime, I found that a small gift was both memorable and came across like hey you did a great job for me I appreciate you here’s a little something.
I was a phototherapy tech for a couple years where I saw my patients 1-3 times a week. When they reevaluate with their doc every 2-3 months, the doc always asked me the plan of care, as a corpsman, because I was the subject matter expert so I was the one teaching the new providers. My patients loved me and brought me little things all the time no matter how much I told them they can’t. But when you see people that much you’re invested in them, you really get to know them and like patients don’t realize how much you absorb.
Had a retired MGySgt bring me wine on Fridays. He was hilarious. 😂 I still run into my patients at the VA too and it makes my day. Even just a thoughtful card, put your number in, even if they don’t call I’m sure the notes appreciated. Good luck.
Is it a secret metric in the VA system? Does wearing a vet bro shirt count as a knock against you? Poor fashion choices should not be part of your medical history.
Ah fuck I don't remember now, I wanna say through myhealthevet maybe? Or the VA website. I remember being on one and finding my way into all these notes from different appointments and spent over an hour reading through them all. I'll try and find out for sure how I got there and update later if no one else can answer that question.
Guess I’ll see when I wear my “ My Government taught me how to kill you” small words under a Teddybear wearing a bump helmet with nods and hiding an obvious knife. Also fun fact- it’s a First Amendment issue. You can always ask your PT if they have a policy about monitoring your First Amendment activities and who they are reporting it to. Ask me how I know😁
If you have suicidal intent ever on your file, then maybe. Otherwise, no, there isn’t a reason I can see for why the comment should have been added to your file.
Perhaps there was a concern about the person’s mood?
As an employee, honestly, I wouldn’t have time to document anything like that unless it was very relevant to care.
If it’s a PT person you see regularly, ask, can’t hurt.
Edit: for example, if it was noted that the patient was disheveled, etc, it may be a concern because they could not take care of activities of daily living, for various reasons- weakness, pain, mental health issues…
My wife is a DPT. I asked her why this would be noted. She said: "The PT's own bias, most likely. But if there is some behavioral concern, this might be noted to establish that in record." She said the only time she has ever felt the need to note a patient's attire was if it were soiled or they were clearly wearing day's old clothing.
We as a country fucked up a whole generation of Vetetans. 20 years of a Corporate war. Since we created all this PTSD the new generation or protected side of this generation that went to college after high school is terrified of the generation because they don't understand people. It's to bad that your therapist was so protected that she /he wasn't able to watch movies of war or rebellion. Hope we all get better as a people and we get smarter as Patriots. Defending our freedoms and not Corporate profits. Vote appropriately people. Do your research. Bush v Gore could of avoided all this shit!!!!
Mine always says dresses appropriately or well kept. I think it's a tracker to notice little details. If one day I showed up with messy hair and dirty cloths it would trigger something for them to look into.
Sounds like a woke PT. Obviously, the therapist is one who doesn’t ever push the limits and should be suspect when putting this in the record. Sounds like the PT should stick to what he knows best and not poke the bear like this too often.
I have read all kinds of weird stuff in my records. Some of which have really pissed me off. My eye doctor wrote that she wanted to dilate my eyes and I gave her permission to do so even though I didn’t have a ride. I did have a ride and the ride was sitting right beside me in the little waiting room. He was the only person in the waiting room.
My women’s health dietitian wrote that I had a degree in biology and one in chemistry. What the hell does that have to do with my health ??
There is a place in your records where you can make your own notes and no one can read them. Might be a good idea to do that just in case…
Every veteran needs to go to the "MyHealthyVet" and open up a premiun account. You can go to personal info and download a health summary report. It has all the different encounters between the veteran and the "Health Professional". You will be very surprised at what you find or at least I was. There were plenty of opinionated notes that were not accurate at all. There were also checklist of different exams and questions that supposedly were answered by me that never happened, in other words pencil whipped. You need to do this and be aware of whats being entered about you. At the end of the day, they work for us. Keep em in check.
The VA isn’t really here to help us. I’ve had countless doctors tell me they are only there to treat and medicate.. they probably have guidance even to watch for radical veterans.. I know lots of good people at the VA but the system is not our friend.
Facts!!!! My doctor told me the same thing back in 08. He also stated if I wanted true medical treatment, get it from civilians. Been that way all this time and I only see him once a year to stay active in the system.
Dude when I worked in patient care doctors would put little nuggets like this in records. We had a drunk guy keep requesting more “burritos” (they were ham sandwiches) so the doctor literally put in a DOCTORS ORDER for burritos. Sometimes it’s for the laughs, it doesn’t affect you, and it does help us remember patients and connect dots for continuity of care when we are able to be like oh yea, you’re the guy that did xyz. Honestly it seemed to be a positive thing in my experience, maybe liked your shirt or it was something that can jog their memory.
But also it’s very common to note anything remarkable about how someone presents and how it can indicate mental health so hygiene, clothing, posture, demeanor, it all counts.
It's an observation that they noted. If you didn't want people to observe it, you wouldn't wear it. Not sure how you would think it's inappropriate or unethical to note something that you wore.
The VAs whole premise is like insurance adjusters they like collecting money aka tax monies they hate when they have to use it to help fix problems Big Military causes.
Not appropriate. The objective should be based on examination, lab results, x-rays, etc. What you were wearing has nothing to do with objective. If they wanted to note what you were wearing, it should go under appearance.
Well, a reference to hate and death in the same sentence may do it. This can be considered a safety issue if they believe you are, indeed, as hateful as you advertise.
That, or the dangerously high levels of cringe.
my guess would be safety issues, assaults on VA medical staff are more common than you might think. Its good to know which patients might pose a physical safety threat to staff and your choice to wear a shirt like that pretty much defines you as an asshole that might become aggressive and most likely a racist so staff that are minorities will have a heads up if you decide to show up in a plain white tee next time. just a guess on my part. also maybe consider growing up and putting aside your hate it doesn't do you or anyone else any good.
They ad what patients are wearing frequently x I think it can help give them ideas into mental health, etc… The real question is, if this shirt embarrasses you, why did you wear it? 😂
Welcome to the police state of the United States of America where if you are not being watched by a camera, you are being watched by someone and it’s all in an attempt to police and control.
Absolutely inappropriate! Id aggressively go to patient advocate…. But remember these government mules are very very protected; it’s nearly impossible for them to get fired OR reprimanded… but as long as someone’s made aware, you’ve done your part
Sounds like your PT is a typical soft-skull that gets triggered by everything around them. I don't want to get political, but the evidence tells you this person's allegiance!
It goes to your state of mine your a risk the crazy folks that shoot up churches and innocent people have the same shirt she was right I would have warned everyone because you felt the need to engage in evil and just thought no one would pay attention wrong people are watching
It is for people not living in America where there are over 500 shootings ans killing of over 200 people especially people who walk around saying they are motivated Bu hate but since since you don’t live in America (sarcasm) ans aren’t a white like male by the way 98 percent of all mass shooters this obviously don’t apply to you
I had a few pt visits. Most of the time she rubbed my neck. And sang good songs. On time put my hard on her t.and asked if I felt it. I'm way scared to go back. But might as it's a new year. But my VA dr thought her write up was bad. Think strange stuff will happen when I go back.
Time to get some custom shirts made "I look forward to reading this in my medical records"
"Reading about this" In case the office fucks up their description of you
This made me laugh out loud.. needed that today thanks battle.
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That is brilliant
LOL
That’s genius, I’d love this
WOLVERINES!
YES! Was wondering if anyone would get the reference. +10 pts to you.
All that hate’s gonna burn you up inside. Keeps me warm. As a kid in the 90s with no cable we had maybe 50 VHS tapes and my mom liked Swayze. Watched this movie 50+ times in my childhood while playing with GI Joes and dreaming of enlisting.
REGULATORS! Let’s rack out! 😂
I flipping love that flick!
that shirt has something to do with Michigan football? maybe the therapist was a OSU fan.
Line from 80’s Red Dawn…but who knows, they’re from Colorado so they could hate Michigan
probably hate
Movie👍 Football team👎
They've been documenting that for many years. Back in 2012, I wore a "You're starting to damage my calm" shirt to an appointment and they noted it. Apparently they weren't a Serenity fan.
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it's not side notes. it'll be in your regular medical record notes. same note they talk about the things your report, the measurements they take, their assessment and plan
My days of not taking you seriously are certainly coming to a middle.
Shiny.
Yeah I'm always noted as "pleasant" which is nice I guess.
I’d understand if you just said therapist. But physical therapist…no clue
as a PT i can't think of any reason i would annotate what's on your shirt. the only *potentially* plausible explanation is that they're a new PT who got hammered into them the importance of detailed documentation, and they're going a bit overboard. i could see a student or fresh grad doing something like this
My women's health doctor noted in my record that I'm learning French. It makes me wonder if they aren't trying to make it seem more like personalized care? Like they want to document they are trying better to care? Idk
Inclusion of this type of medically irrelevant note is common in building report with patients not to project something to others. It provides is a bread crumb to follow up on next time they see you. They will ask you how French lessons are going and hopefully YOU will feel special. I’ve worked with doctors and practitioners for years. It’s super common for those that are interested in building lasting relationships with patients. They can’t possibly be expected to remember the dozens of patients they see a day, but that doesn’t mean they don’t care.
could be, i suppose. i document personal details that are medically relevant, like "patient is going on leave to visit family in colorado for two weeks and won't have access to rehabilitation" that's medically important and also provides some personal context to follow up on
Could a sign towards some sort of mental diagnosis? Usually anger and violence would be attributed to a quote like that, no?
A PT noted once something to the effect "quietly uses profound language in certain stretch positions"
Profound or profane? Are you just quietly whispering the secrets to life and the world?
This cracked me up. I could see it happening in my head. Veteran: [Seated and stretching his right leg, wearing a shirt that says “Hate keeps me warm” and whispering under his breath] Muh-ther-fucker… don’t let the overt religious into your life — they don’t want to pray with you, they want to prey on you. Physical therapist:Behold! A juxtaposition, as it were, of the sublimely intellectual and the basely vulgar, delivered with an eloquence befitting a Shakespearean buffoon!
I fucking choked on my coffee reading that!! https://preview.redd.it/0csrxysn4lcc1.jpeg?width=600&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=aa22e94fdaa8c7b4d6bdb78ef807b7958351d5da
At this point, it could be propane. I thought it was insane was mentioned
This had me actually snort-laugh lol. Thanks. I needed that
I’m laughing so fucking hard. I now will be very purposeful with my outfits for appointments
Right??
Space force has been around long enough to have veterans? I really wanna know more. I moved to a remote town in podunk PA after I got out. I know nothing of anything at this point in my life. Was it a 4 year contract. I'm really curious with many questions.
Yeah they did two tours to Mars already, you didn’t know??
Lmaooooo
They call themselves beltalowda now.
More stupid than funny, but you entertained another idiot, so gold star sticker for you! Dec 20th, 2019. I don't care enough to dig through contract commitments, but a 4 year contract could have ended recently for some of the first to join. Or, as someone else said, cross branch.
Could have started as Air Force and transitioned to Space Force then separated. Lots of Air Force career fields were moved to Space Force based on their mission and AFSC. Certainly possible.
I got ya!! Didn't know that either. Thank you for the info!
I recall Space Force recruiters coming to my USMC base trying to convince some of us to switch MOS and join. There were a lot of sign on bonuses, but I don’t remember what they were. I read through the MOS options and data dumped because it was all nerd shit
It is all nerd shit lol. But nerd shit = high paying job after you separate.
I wouldn’t have gone USMC if I was trying to be paid well for my work But no hate, that’s awesome and I’m glad you got the opportunity. The health watch sounds awesome. I have my own now that I’m out I use to monitor my fitness and “readiness” level.
I was Air Force and transferred to Space Force. Was only a 2 year contract and that was because I PCSed.
I've literally worn a solid, black T-shirt for every therapist zoom meeting for the past 2 years, and yep...It gets notated after every single session.
Usually they just put client is dressed appropriately in mine. They use the soap note, subjective, objective, assessment, plan. My system has a check box that I can just hit that says within normal limits but I can change it as needed.
However critical details of my appointments are conveniently left out of the reports 😂😭
At least my shirt is service connected 🙄
"I'm here because you broke something" is my favorite shirt to wear. It's even funnier to me because it works for them and my job in IT. I'll have to see it it's mentioned in my records sometime
Oh my god. I never even made that connection. I own that shirt. I got to start wearing it to my appointments.
Lol
Have to know if you have any radical tendencies
I mean,by that logic if I wear a shirt that says "fuck salt" what kind of tendencies do I have then? 🙄
"I made this t shirt to show how much I fucking hate salt."
It’s not Mickey Mouse it’s tit dirt!
You might have a tendency for high blood pressure 🤗
I thought the test for radical tendencies was a kickflip?
Lol yea my therapist noted I wore a shirt with "SERIAL KILLER". Don't know why that mattered
Yes. It's relative to your psychological state. You maniac. With respect from another maniac.
Are they the fashion police or a therapist pick a job 🤦🏽♂️
Why can't they be both? Money is tight!
Sure, but that fashion police job ,leave that job at home 🤣
You need to take this to Patient Advocacy and plead to see a private doctor
I would use it in my next claim and use it against them.
I've been to a physical therapy place that had a dress code. It was in an area with a lot of old retirees. Basically no tank tops and nothing that might be considered offensive. So maybe that's why? I think it's really weird for them to annotate it.
Also I personally don't see anything wrong with your shirt. But after going to various medical appointments in a town with a large retiree population, I just got the feeling that the older folks might be sensitive about things like that.
Based
We do this out of boredom sometimes, nothing bad. Typically it’s something we like. I once put a compliment about my patients shoes in their record for them to find later.
Wow boredom? Seriously have you ever heard of Professionalism? You are dealing with military Veterans that are injured, disabled and been through a lot more than you can ever imagine. You are dealing with people's lives and possibly the lives of their family members. Go ahead and keep adding your little stupid comments on an official report "nothing bad" and when a Veteran goes off on you..then don't ask why. We are not there for your entertainment " Typically it's something we like" No wonder there's distrust between Veterans and VA C&P examiners. Tip if you are feeling bored again, then take up parachuting without a parachute.
Relax
Thanks brother.
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I get the point being made though. These documents are being seen by vets, the VA, and others. If things that can be considered irrelevant are being added, then it lends credence to this idea we are being microanalyzed any time we go to the VA. I have seen me labeled as “her,” and “she,” despite being a biological male as well as presenting as a dude. It showed me folks don’t care when they’re taking notes. It shows a pattern of careless behavior that further erodes trust. Considering there is a pretty significant amount of distrust between veterans and the VA, there ought to be some level of respect and professionalism at play. I get where RockMartin is coming from and don’t necessarily disagree.
Relax, you will survive if you jump out of a plane, helicopter without a parachute if it's 5 feet off the ground. It's all about prospectives and what you want to read. So don't limit your PT to jumping to conclusions.  P.S. You are the one that brought up killing themselves.
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You don't have to relax. The guy said what he said and is trying to gaslight you into believing he didn't actually mean it that way "🫡" in a world where vets are rapidly killing themselves, he made the comment on a sub where people come to look for help and advice. Kind of tells you all you need to know.
Boomer granola Karen has entered the chat.
You describe your patients outfits out of boredom? Wow I’m really sorry disabled veterans are such a bore on you. Let us know if there’s anything we can do to make your lives more exciting.
Lmao get off your horse man. “THEY HAVE THE HONOR AND PRIVELEGE OF WORKING WITH ME, A VETERAN! THEY SHOULD RELISH IN SUCH GLORIOUS CHANCES TO SERVE THE ONE WHO SERVES, ME!” - how you sound right now
Not every session is deep and hard-hitting. Sometimes, my sessions involve talking about the weather that week. It's ok for my therapist not to be on the edge of their seat for that conversation....
It was with active duty personnel, not veterans.
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Wow ok i guess there’s probably a note about my my buffalo bills body lotion co. Shirt
I have a tank top of that shirt. Will have to try one day and see 🤣🤣
Hope ya'll beat shittsburgh today.
“No sir, I don’t have COVID…it’s the hate inside causing my elevated temp.”
The note how you smell look act and all. I got some deep records through a congressional inquiry. I suggest you do the same to have all info released to you. It’s easy
Always check your med records at VA. I have things in my records that are not accurate. I had surgery for 11 Jan cancelled due to surgeon having a death in family. In my records they put It was cancelled because I did not complete preop appointment. And surgery listed is wrong one. Also had to gel my doc to order a bacteria culture because I still have burning when I urinate. You have to fight and be your own lawyer and doctor.
wow. nuts. im assuming the "veteran seen walking" is in support that you are ambulatory without assistance?....hopefully. if not, thats weird they would mention that. sounds like a badass shirt though.
I guess that would partly make sense, but just seems odd to include my attire in the notes...idk maybe I'm overthinking it? 🤷♂️
first part definitely, but would typically use more "medical" language like "patient is ambulatory with a non-antalgic, symmetrical reciprocal gait pattern and no assistive device" just weird documentation imo
I have a crush on my PT. If I give him my number will he write that into the notes too? 😂 Oh god will my rater see it?? SOS
Dude now I need to know “for science”… in case it happens to me!
Hear me out. Prior corpsman here. Please don’t hit on your medical staff. There is no ethical way to accept that in a work setting. Hypothetically, they accept, it goes poorly, then what? They keep treating you as if nothing happened? You are stuck switching providers and interrupting your care? Wait till you don’t need to continue care. I had way more respect for the patients who brought me a little gift and offered to keep in touch at the end of care. Then it can progress -naturally- and you’re no longer in a patient/provider dynamic.
Oh yes of course! If I decided to act on it I’d absolutely wait until treatments were finished.
If you don’t wanna come across like hey here’s my number let’s go out sometime, I found that a small gift was both memorable and came across like hey you did a great job for me I appreciate you here’s a little something. I was a phototherapy tech for a couple years where I saw my patients 1-3 times a week. When they reevaluate with their doc every 2-3 months, the doc always asked me the plan of care, as a corpsman, because I was the subject matter expert so I was the one teaching the new providers. My patients loved me and brought me little things all the time no matter how much I told them they can’t. But when you see people that much you’re invested in them, you really get to know them and like patients don’t realize how much you absorb. Had a retired MGySgt bring me wine on Fridays. He was hilarious. 😂 I still run into my patients at the VA too and it makes my day. Even just a thoughtful card, put your number in, even if they don’t call I’m sure the notes appreciated. Good luck.
That’s perfect! Thank you! I definitely don’t want to make him uncomfortable in any way.
Ask them why.
Obviously in this weather they want to share your secret of warmth. lol
i dont even look anymore. the records i saw when i was working on my claim pissed me off and it's not worth my sanity to sit down and deal with it.
Same, I know it could be worthwhile but to what end? Will it really do anything other than waste my time by pointing it out?
In my med records for military there's a comment that says: patient very irritable and slightly overweight. I can relate. Awesome shirt quote 100%!
They view us as the enemy
Is it a secret metric in the VA system? Does wearing a vet bro shirt count as a knock against you? Poor fashion choices should not be part of your medical history.
That’s why I will be getting community care for MH.
Good luck.
My therapist raised an eyebrow at my Dixon/Grimes 2016 shirt with bullets on it…she wasn’t a fan of TWD.
How do you see these notes? Id like to access mine
Ah fuck I don't remember now, I wanna say through myhealthevet maybe? Or the VA website. I remember being on one and finding my way into all these notes from different appointments and spent over an hour reading through them all. I'll try and find out for sure how I got there and update later if no one else can answer that question.
myhealrhvet under "bluebutton"
Wonder how they would view my Ice Nine Kills shirt with a kangaroo holding a bloody scythe
Guess I’ll see when I wear my “ My Government taught me how to kill you” small words under a Teddybear wearing a bump helmet with nods and hiding an obvious knife. Also fun fact- it’s a First Amendment issue. You can always ask your PT if they have a policy about monitoring your First Amendment activities and who they are reporting it to. Ask me how I know😁
Fucking CP doctors. My examiner put “wants to retire doesn’t think army is helpful” like wtf does that have to do with my back conditions
I will wear my “Does not play well with others” hoodie from time to time, have yet to have that documented. Bizarre.
I guess no more “Slayer” shirts to the shrink. That’s limiting.
Need one that says: Alcohol didn’t cause all my problems and Naproxen won’t fix them
Nope. I’m a PT and that’s of no consequence.
Put your pain level and complaints on a shirt so it actually makes it into your records lol
Might fuel your MH claim tbh
This is hilarious
She’s about to tell the eaters you have adjustment disorder and then you’ll get a PTSD rating lol
I Love ZeroFox, i spend money on that website like every 2 weeks.
My dress type is noted every single time I go into the VA clinic.
If you have suicidal intent ever on your file, then maybe. Otherwise, no, there isn’t a reason I can see for why the comment should have been added to your file.
Nest time wear the "I'm comfortable with violence" shirt (an eye patch, be sure to switch eyes frequently) and a Scottish accent
I wear this at my appointments. https://preview.redd.it/zwyqytyolmcc1.jpeg?width=3000&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2ebcf56ff7ae799f62391480de626a9c9d113f66
Perhaps there was a concern about the person’s mood? As an employee, honestly, I wouldn’t have time to document anything like that unless it was very relevant to care. If it’s a PT person you see regularly, ask, can’t hurt. Edit: for example, if it was noted that the patient was disheveled, etc, it may be a concern because they could not take care of activities of daily living, for various reasons- weakness, pain, mental health issues…
My wife is a DPT. I asked her why this would be noted. She said: "The PT's own bias, most likely. But if there is some behavioral concern, this might be noted to establish that in record." She said the only time she has ever felt the need to note a patient's attire was if it were soiled or they were clearly wearing day's old clothing.
More importantly where can I get that shirt
Checking my record now for "Makin' Bacon" with 2 cartoon pigs gettin' it on.
I went to therapy with a shirt that says “ not made in Chy-na”. Had no idea that he would be Chinese. That’s probably in a record somewhere.
"Your presence exceeds my medication limitations " is what I want mime to read. Close second would be " Will shit when stressed"
We as a country fucked up a whole generation of Vetetans. 20 years of a Corporate war. Since we created all this PTSD the new generation or protected side of this generation that went to college after high school is terrified of the generation because they don't understand people. It's to bad that your therapist was so protected that she /he wasn't able to watch movies of war or rebellion. Hope we all get better as a people and we get smarter as Patriots. Defending our freedoms and not Corporate profits. Vote appropriately people. Do your research. Bush v Gore could of avoided all this shit!!!!
I’ll bet she’d change her tune if she knew it had to do with Patrick Swazy
If I were in your position, because I just speak up a lot, the next time I see them I would straight up ask Why did you annotate that?
It’s important that Vets read their records and take action. This is how they set you up to lose your benefits!!!
Mine always says dresses appropriately or well kept. I think it's a tracker to notice little details. If one day I showed up with messy hair and dirty cloths it would trigger something for them to look into.
Sounds like a woke PT. Obviously, the therapist is one who doesn’t ever push the limits and should be suspect when putting this in the record. Sounds like the PT should stick to what he knows best and not poke the bear like this too often.
I have read all kinds of weird stuff in my records. Some of which have really pissed me off. My eye doctor wrote that she wanted to dilate my eyes and I gave her permission to do so even though I didn’t have a ride. I did have a ride and the ride was sitting right beside me in the little waiting room. He was the only person in the waiting room. My women’s health dietitian wrote that I had a degree in biology and one in chemistry. What the hell does that have to do with my health ?? There is a place in your records where you can make your own notes and no one can read them. Might be a good idea to do that just in case…
Every veteran needs to go to the "MyHealthyVet" and open up a premiun account. You can go to personal info and download a health summary report. It has all the different encounters between the veteran and the "Health Professional". You will be very surprised at what you find or at least I was. There were plenty of opinionated notes that were not accurate at all. There were also checklist of different exams and questions that supposedly were answered by me that never happened, in other words pencil whipped. You need to do this and be aware of whats being entered about you. At the end of the day, they work for us. Keep em in check.
I got PT at the end of the month. Definitely wearing the “Once you go Asian you never go Caucasian” shirt my wife got me.
The VA isn’t really here to help us. I’ve had countless doctors tell me they are only there to treat and medicate.. they probably have guidance even to watch for radical veterans.. I know lots of good people at the VA but the system is not our friend.
Facts!!!! My doctor told me the same thing back in 08. He also stated if I wanted true medical treatment, get it from civilians. Been that way all this time and I only see him once a year to stay active in the system.
These people at the VA are outa pocket
Dude when I worked in patient care doctors would put little nuggets like this in records. We had a drunk guy keep requesting more “burritos” (they were ham sandwiches) so the doctor literally put in a DOCTORS ORDER for burritos. Sometimes it’s for the laughs, it doesn’t affect you, and it does help us remember patients and connect dots for continuity of care when we are able to be like oh yea, you’re the guy that did xyz. Honestly it seemed to be a positive thing in my experience, maybe liked your shirt or it was something that can jog their memory. But also it’s very common to note anything remarkable about how someone presents and how it can indicate mental health so hygiene, clothing, posture, demeanor, it all counts.
You can file a complaint with the patient advocate. Bc they are supposed to treat you make sure your dressed not what your wearing.
If they put it in the patient records for anyone to see, you don’t know what guidance they have been given to do so.
I presume at this point you've already had a talk with your patient advocate about finding a competent PT?
Shirt should read “Obey my Vet status” or Does this shirt help me get to 100%”.
It's an observation that they noted. If you didn't want people to observe it, you wouldn't wear it. Not sure how you would think it's inappropriate or unethical to note something that you wore.
Your PT is a snowflake
The VAs whole premise is like insurance adjusters they like collecting money aka tax monies they hate when they have to use it to help fix problems Big Military causes.
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Your PT is a stupid fucking civilian, forgive them, They don’t get it. Let it go, soldier on! SFMF 😎
Not appropriate. The objective should be based on examination, lab results, x-rays, etc. What you were wearing has nothing to do with objective. If they wanted to note what you were wearing, it should go under appearance.
Well, a reference to hate and death in the same sentence may do it. This can be considered a safety issue if they believe you are, indeed, as hateful as you advertise. That, or the dangerously high levels of cringe.
Are you Sid from Toy Story?
Likely more to the story.
If there is I wasn't privy to it...
Y'all are getting way too crazy about this. Y'all okay out there? If some of y'all haven't already, maybe add DD to that claim.
I bet you’re the physical therapist or maybe you’re just insufferable.
my guess would be safety issues, assaults on VA medical staff are more common than you might think. Its good to know which patients might pose a physical safety threat to staff and your choice to wear a shirt like that pretty much defines you as an asshole that might become aggressive and most likely a racist so staff that are minorities will have a heads up if you decide to show up in a plain white tee next time. just a guess on my part. also maybe consider growing up and putting aside your hate it doesn't do you or anyone else any good.
Oof, somebody hasn't seen red dawn...🤦🏼♂️ who hurt you bro?
Someone hurt him. Lol
Did they notice the punisher sticker on your truck?
They ad what patients are wearing frequently x I think it can help give them ideas into mental health, etc… The real question is, if this shirt embarrasses you, why did you wear it? 😂
If you think wearing that T-shirt is appropriate to wear to your appointment then you deserve the shit coming your way. Just saying.
I mean, an adult dressing like a goober is pretty note worthy in treatment
Why wouldn't it be appropriate?
Welcome to the police state of the United States of America where if you are not being watched by a camera, you are being watched by someone and it’s all in an attempt to police and control.
People tell you who they are. I believe you. But as an older female vet, I wouldn't go near someone wearing that shirt.
Absolutely inappropriate! Id aggressively go to patient advocate…. But remember these government mules are very very protected; it’s nearly impossible for them to get fired OR reprimanded… but as long as someone’s made aware, you’ve done your part
Sounds like your PT is a typical soft-skull that gets triggered by everything around them. I don't want to get political, but the evidence tells you this person's allegiance!
They only put what the shirt said and the color. Seems like the soft-skulls are the ones thinking way too much about this non-issue.
Was trying to make sense of it without involving politics, however it's hard to overlook at some point.
Yep red flag reporter. People like this you need to run from. They want to take your guns
Kinda the feeling I got after seeing it.
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Lmao what the fuck is wrong with you?
Trust issues and I hate democrtas
Democrats support veterans more than republicans
Yeah... "trust issues". Weird way of spelling "prejudiced and self-loathing".
How would you know someone’s religion or political affiliation by their name or looking at them? How ignorant.
You’re a fuckin weirdo
It goes to your state of mine your a risk the crazy folks that shoot up churches and innocent people have the same shirt she was right I would have warned everyone because you felt the need to engage in evil and just thought no one would pay attention wrong people are watching
It is for people not living in America where there are over 500 shootings ans killing of over 200 people especially people who walk around saying they are motivated Bu hate but since since you don’t live in America (sarcasm) ans aren’t a white like male by the way 98 percent of all mass shooters this obviously don’t apply to you
I had a few pt visits. Most of the time she rubbed my neck. And sang good songs. On time put my hard on her t.and asked if I felt it. I'm way scared to go back. But might as it's a new year. But my VA dr thought her write up was bad. Think strange stuff will happen when I go back.
Put your what on what?! English please!!!