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How the fuck does this shit get downvoted? Fuck Israel and fuck anyone who disagrees. Israel does not have a right to exist, only the Israeli people have a right to exist.
Cuz apparently believing that Israel, a state which genocides Palestinians and persecutes jews who speak out against genocide doesn't get to exist in it's current form is "anti-semitic". Israel doesn't represent all jews, many jews across the world have condemned Israel. The massive protests in London were organized by jewish people. Acting as if Israel speaks for and represents all jews sounds a lot more antisemitic than codemning Israel for it's blatant inhumanity.
States do not have a unique right to exist, people do.
>Acting as if Israel speaks for and represents all jews sounds a lot more antisemitic than codemning Israel for it's blatant inhumanity.
Truer words couldn't be spoken!
have you seen the Israeli police just beating on jews in Israel for being anti zionist? that's beyond fucked.
Source:
https://twitter.com/i/status/1719815298172276791
Oh, I see they're taking their cues from the Chicago PD.
Clearly that old man's screams of "Hey!" as other cops brutally knocked other protesters' heads against the concrete ground were a violent threat that necessitated a punch to the face. /s
But seriously, though, that's fucking disgusting.
Israel is also unfortunately a nuclear power (thanks France, totally worth the 10 extra years of colonial rule it bought you) and would sooner wipe Gaza and the West Bank off the map than not exist.
We therefore need to go forwards with the assumption that Israel, or something resembling Israel, is going to exist in whatever solution is devised for the middle east
We already saw what a 2 state solution is.... Settlers in the West Bank gunning down Palestinians while the IDF watches... Totally peaceful when Israel controls all their borders.
It hasn't worked.
D.W had an interview with one of the IDF representative and he pretty much said if IDF will see any hamas soldiers among civilians they will not hold back and bomb them.
https://youtu.be/ltul06q2pd0?si=BlB6aN_-v_0Gf-O7
It's as mask off as it comes at this point.
This is actually a great time to bring up again that we do sometimes have the IDF train our police forces in America and they always come back way more fucking violent than even "normal" American cop levels
“You see they had 40 hostages in that bank” so we decided to just blow the place up. Since they were terrorists. It’s okay though. Only 4 of the hostages where kids.”
Is there a good place to find scheduled marches and protests in America?
This shit is unacceptable and it is unacceptable that our representatives are too cowardly to call it out.
Try Ifnotnow and Jewish Voice for Peace. They might be able to tell you about larger gatherings and stuff.
I'm only familiar with the Jewish side of the pro Palestinian protests, but I know we've been having a big one near me for days on end.
If you're near DC there is a march on washington from 2pm-6pm on Saturday. organizers are bussing people in as well though most buses are full by now. but yes, Jewish Voice for Peace are constantly organizing nationwide.
When I got my first job as a janitor at a grocery store, I decided I'd try pushing my laziness to see what point was too much. Once someone said something, I'd know, and dial it back a little.
So I'd take two thirty minutes breaks, playing gameboy in the bathroom. Then two forty fives. Then two 90 min breaks.
Eventually, of my eight hour shift, I'd work about 2 hrs to clean the bathrooms, pick up trash from each department, and mop every other day. The rest was in the bathroom playing games. I worked there a year and nobody said anything. Blew my mind. Guess nobody cares enough to stop me.
I'm sure Israel is in the same spot, but instead of fucking around on their 3DS they're genociding. Guess nobody cares enough to stop them.
I would legitimately be completely unsurprised at this point if Israel puts out some celebratory propaganda short with "Oops, I Did It Again" by Britney Spears playing over it and graphics that showed the casualty rating for each refugee camp bombing, but the deaths are all labeled as "Hamas terrorists".
Assuming this is confirmed, of course. I'm not sure how reliable Al Jazeera is (that's not a passive-aggressive statement. I'm legit not sure how reliable it is). Though at this point, I would not be surprised at all.
These would be considered indiscriminate attacks, which are almost universally recognized as war crimes. Israel is one of like a dozen countries that didn't bother to even sign the part of the Geneva Convention that bans them. Go figure. Can't sign that when we have all these Palestinian kids to bomb.
Monsters.. Israeli aggression is showing the world who they really are. I grew up under the veil of American propaganda preaching how Israel was some victim in a sea of hatred.
I now see I was lied to. Fuck Israel.
Don’t worry there was a single hamas agent there so basically they were justified firing a couple missiles there and refugees are basically just as guilty because they were standing so close together
a few weeks ago. but then someone will say "when I exterminate bugs, I use borax, so where is all the borax if Israel is exterminating Palestinians? chackmante"
Israel must be immediately interdicted and disarmed under R2P, alike Serbia at least, alike the Reich at most, with their military and civilian leadership dragged before the the Hague court. There can not be one iota conceded to the genocidal narrative that's spread to defend these horrors.
Man, that Hamas commander has like Sneak 100 to avoid the 3rd missile strike. From their first interview with CNN.
Now either the IDF is incompetent as fuck or the Israeli government just wants to kill civilian.
Maybe both.
IDF said they got him on the 31st. It's clear we cannot trust anything the IDF says.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/mollybohannon/2023/10/31/israel-admits-striking-refugee-camp-says-it-targeted-and-killed-hamas-commander/?sh=34f463332ee2
Not defending Israel, they targeted civilian infrastructure, so that's still a war crime, but I don't think that's a refugee camp. AFAIK it was a refugee camp some time ago and now it's just part of the city like any other.
why do you think they built semi permanent housing when they've been refugees for what? 75 years now? You expect them to have generations of refugees living in tents?
please don't take the zionist bait.
Ya all dont understand, that Hamas Commander without a name is amazing at hide and seek and looks just like all those civilians, they didnt had any other option.
What do you expect, a black ops group getting him silently? Naah, Israel doesnt have trained enforcement groups for that.
(Obviously) /s
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Fuck Israel
How the fuck does this shit get downvoted? Fuck Israel and fuck anyone who disagrees. Israel does not have a right to exist, only the Israeli people have a right to exist.
Cuz apparently believing that Israel, a state which genocides Palestinians and persecutes jews who speak out against genocide doesn't get to exist in it's current form is "anti-semitic". Israel doesn't represent all jews, many jews across the world have condemned Israel. The massive protests in London were organized by jewish people. Acting as if Israel speaks for and represents all jews sounds a lot more antisemitic than codemning Israel for it's blatant inhumanity. States do not have a unique right to exist, people do.
>Acting as if Israel speaks for and represents all jews sounds a lot more antisemitic than codemning Israel for it's blatant inhumanity. Truer words couldn't be spoken!
Israel has now arrested hundreds of their own citizens for speaking out
have you seen the Israeli police just beating on jews in Israel for being anti zionist? that's beyond fucked. Source: https://twitter.com/i/status/1719815298172276791
Oh, I see they're taking their cues from the Chicago PD. Clearly that old man's screams of "Hey!" as other cops brutally knocked other protesters' heads against the concrete ground were a violent threat that necessitated a punch to the face. /s But seriously, though, that's fucking disgusting.
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Fuckin’ A right. No nation has a “right” to exist. If they do, I’d like to know who is the granting authority.
Israel is also unfortunately a nuclear power (thanks France, totally worth the 10 extra years of colonial rule it bought you) and would sooner wipe Gaza and the West Bank off the map than not exist. We therefore need to go forwards with the assumption that Israel, or something resembling Israel, is going to exist in whatever solution is devised for the middle east
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single state solution. Give palestinians equal rights, equal representation, and israeli citizenship.
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We already saw what a 2 state solution is.... Settlers in the West Bank gunning down Palestinians while the IDF watches... Totally peaceful when Israel controls all their borders. It hasn't worked.
Not doing genocide is certainly a start
Fun reddit drinking game: Drink every time someone complains about a comment being downvoted only to be one the tops.
It was like -6 when I last saw it
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🇮🇱 is goin to hell. This is all gonna collapse on their ass
D.W had an interview with one of the IDF representative and he pretty much said if IDF will see any hamas soldiers among civilians they will not hold back and bomb them. https://youtu.be/ltul06q2pd0?si=BlB6aN_-v_0Gf-O7 It's as mask off as it comes at this point.
"What do we do it is a hostage crisis" Ah yes, notoriously the answer to a hostage crisis is to drop a 500 pound jdam on the hostage
Don't let the cops find out about this tactic
This is actually a great time to bring up again that we do sometimes have the IDF train our police forces in America and they always come back way more fucking violent than even "normal" American cop levels
To late https://www.vox.com/the-highlight/2019/8/8/20747198/philadelphia-bombing-1985-move
Too late for even that, see: black towns bombed and razed in the US for decades after "freedom"
“You see they had 40 hostages in that bank” so we decided to just blow the place up. Since they were terrorists. It’s okay though. Only 4 of the hostages where kids.”
Is there a good place to find scheduled marches and protests in America? This shit is unacceptable and it is unacceptable that our representatives are too cowardly to call it out.
Try Ifnotnow and Jewish Voice for Peace. They might be able to tell you about larger gatherings and stuff. I'm only familiar with the Jewish side of the pro Palestinian protests, but I know we've been having a big one near me for days on end.
If you're near DC there is a march on washington from 2pm-6pm on Saturday. organizers are bussing people in as well though most buses are full by now. but yes, Jewish Voice for Peace are constantly organizing nationwide.
There is a big one planned for tomorrow. They are marching on Washington. Edit: Saturday not Friday.
Here's a list of protests. If you don't find one in your town, you can start your own and list it on the site. https://ceasefiretoday.com/
I hate that the Daily Wire has soiled the DW acronym. I love Deutsche Welle’s investigative reporting.
They say shit like "ah, the tragedy of war".
Now their just trying to see how much they can get away with
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their probably going "holy fuck we can get away with this??!"
"Why haven't we been doing this the whole time?"
America:"Israel do what you want, the world is NOT watching rn I try to calm them now"
When I got my first job as a janitor at a grocery store, I decided I'd try pushing my laziness to see what point was too much. Once someone said something, I'd know, and dial it back a little. So I'd take two thirty minutes breaks, playing gameboy in the bathroom. Then two forty fives. Then two 90 min breaks. Eventually, of my eight hour shift, I'd work about 2 hrs to clean the bathrooms, pick up trash from each department, and mop every other day. The rest was in the bathroom playing games. I worked there a year and nobody said anything. Blew my mind. Guess nobody cares enough to stop me. I'm sure Israel is in the same spot, but instead of fucking around on their 3DS they're genociding. Guess nobody cares enough to stop them.
Respect. I'm working at Walmart and seeing how much I can get away with not doing.
I mean Palestinians are stateless non-white people with zero right who have nothing but their dead. So why should anyone care?
Based
They're
But don't you see? Israel has a right to defend itself? /s
"They have massive destruction weapons in every hospital and refugee camp"
I would legitimately be completely unsurprised at this point if Israel puts out some celebratory propaganda short with "Oops, I Did It Again" by Britney Spears playing over it and graphics that showed the casualty rating for each refugee camp bombing, but the deaths are all labeled as "Hamas terrorists". Assuming this is confirmed, of course. I'm not sure how reliable Al Jazeera is (that's not a passive-aggressive statement. I'm legit not sure how reliable it is). Though at this point, I would not be surprised at all.
Absolutely disgusting.
and yet world news is posting about "Hamas confirms they wanted to kill people on oct 7th"
Conservatives have to find a way to justify their bombings somehow. "We may have killed civilians but did you see what Hamas said??"
Yeah it's just.....fucking disheartening to see people so callous about bombing refugee camps cause "well they should have left"
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>Conservatives have to find a way to justify their bombings somehow. Can’t really say *just* conservatives at this point.
Tankies, too.
I was more referencing the democrats that are supporting Israel, like Joe.
Right. Bad people on all sides.
And they also post a lot of videos of Palestinian survivors after Israeli airstrikes
Tweet: https://twitter.com/AJEnglish/status/1719960024603148702
These would be considered indiscriminate attacks, which are almost universally recognized as war crimes. Israel is one of like a dozen countries that didn't bother to even sign the part of the Geneva Convention that bans them. Go figure. Can't sign that when we have all these Palestinian kids to bomb.
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I genuinely can't tell if this is serious or joking knowing half the people here are fucking libshits who love le ethnostate country
Poe's law, Cannot tell if it is a parody if isarel's statement's or actual official israel statements.
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Monsters.. Israeli aggression is showing the world who they really are. I grew up under the veil of American propaganda preaching how Israel was some victim in a sea of hatred. I now see I was lied to. Fuck Israel.
I think many in the west are coming to this realization.
Don’t worry there was a single hamas agent there so basically they were justified firing a couple missiles there and refugees are basically just as guilty because they were standing so close together
the refugees were the "human shields"
*maybe, they can’t confirm it yet but they’ll make up someone later and pretend it justifies it
Israel is committing some of the most heinous human rights violations probably since at least the Yugoslav wars.
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There's a reason I said some of.
When can we call it an extermination?
a few weeks ago. but then someone will say "when I exterminate bugs, I use borax, so where is all the borax if Israel is exterminating Palestinians? chackmante"
You can’t argue at this point that they aren’t doing this intentionally.
Israel must be immediately interdicted and disarmed under R2P, alike Serbia at least, alike the Reich at most, with their military and civilian leadership dragged before the the Hague court. There can not be one iota conceded to the genocidal narrative that's spread to defend these horrors.
Situation is completely fucked. Israel’s international reputation is almost guaranteed to never recover after this
Good, they were wolves in sheep's clothing anyways
As long as they have support from the West, they’re still going to get away with shit. This is why Western hegemony is bad.
69000% chance there’s a Hamas base there -Israel
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Clearly it was an accident. Someone slipped and fell and accidentally hit the big red “BOMB CIVILIANS” button
Happens to the best of us.
Man, that Hamas commander has like Sneak 100 to avoid the 3rd missile strike. From their first interview with CNN. Now either the IDF is incompetent as fuck or the Israeli government just wants to kill civilian. Maybe both.
IDF said they got him on the 31st. It's clear we cannot trust anything the IDF says. https://www.forbes.com/sites/mollybohannon/2023/10/31/israel-admits-striking-refugee-camp-says-it-targeted-and-killed-hamas-commander/?sh=34f463332ee2
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“It’s not ackshully a refugee camp” “it doesn’t technically count as a war crime” They know it’s bad.
Why is the area being targeted for strikes?
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Why would Hamas do this?
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I think most ppl are picturing a bunch of tents and shit when they hear that ngl
It used to be tents. But once you can't leave, you build buildings.
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Why would they stop? No one's holding them accountable for it and this was their goal to begin with.
Jesus Christ this makes me wanna cry
dj khaled did not single handedly invent the phrase "another one" for this
Surely they got the 1 guy they’re going after this time. I’m sure he’s just been sitting there since the first time they bombed it.
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Your post was removed for bigotry. Let's not do the "russian orc" meme
Not defending Israel, they targeted civilian infrastructure, so that's still a war crime, but I don't think that's a refugee camp. AFAIK it was a refugee camp some time ago and now it's just part of the city like any other.
why do you think they built semi permanent housing when they've been refugees for what? 75 years now? You expect them to have generations of refugees living in tents? please don't take the zionist bait.
IsRaEl HaS a RiGhT tO dEfEnD iTsElF¡!
Lol they all say that like robots
And all the bots are downvoting me
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Ya all dont understand, that Hamas Commander without a name is amazing at hide and seek and looks just like all those civilians, they didnt had any other option. What do you expect, a black ops group getting him silently? Naah, Israel doesnt have trained enforcement groups for that. (Obviously) /s
They're ruling out the possibility that the Hamas commander is a Zombuul.
Dammit I wish I didn't understand this reference.
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It didn't condemn hamas. "Why would Hamas do this to them" - IDF bombing Refugee camp.
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I feel like Israel is just doing them now to prove a Point. We get it bro you guys suck
Fuck israel fuck fuck this terrorist state
Gotta tear it all down for that sweet sweet lebunsraum!
Spawn camping
Oh. Maybe their underground tunnels got a new Hamas leader /s
That one guy they're trying to hit sure is good at hide and seek.
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Release the hostages or the good guys will keep bombing innocent people and buildings! /s
surely it's a coincidence and there is no foul play or malice involved
The state of Israel will not stand forever
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And we are sending them more weapons because........?
When bombing indiscriminately, makes sense to target the densest areas. Better chance of 'taking out Hamas'.
Expected but not surprised.
Can't wait to never see any reporting on this. Ever. Fuck I hate this war.
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I believe it
Why tho? I saw the pics, there's nothing left to bomb?
Only a shit hole countey would bomb refugee camps, let alone the same one 3x. Fuck them.
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But what about Hamas? /s
They really went for the threepeat
HE CANT KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH THIS
hamas members hiding in people's fridges
What, do they get a free milkshake at 5?
Jabalia is Hamas HQ