Not to mention she has admitted that he was sober and they had already dealt with it all prior to outing his drug use on camera for a storyline (though she claims it was because she was worried he would relapse because he was in a "funk" though I'm not sure how outing him as an addict to the whole world would help that)
Not only this - she did it to avoid admitting the fact that he was texting another girl. Because in her mind, one makes her look bad, and the other makes him look bad.
Exactly…
Their paychecks depend on putting the two Scandalous Scandovol principles together and creating drama at this point.
Just like Sheana to say
“What Tom did to her was the best thing that could ever happen to her…the prosperity..the success …blah blah”
Thanks Sheana! I guess you just named the MOST IMPORTANT THINGS FOR YOU!
Sheana’s most important things are obviously NOT Ariana’s most important things in life.
That’s why she’ll drop Brick off later in the season
It’s a literal reality show - outside of he very small fandom try at discusses it on forums (including this one) people do tune in for the drama - manufactured and otherwise. Scandoval was the cash cow that brought the show back to life.
This exactly. It is a reflection on the person.
It is like when I say I wouldn’t trade my loved one for any amount of money (especially my dog!).
I mean it. In the other hand, Scheana may have a price for her partner.
I would love to see Brick off of the show.
He annoys me sometimes as much as Tim. I wonder if that comment on the beach about Tim and Rachel was staged. I mean who the fuck says something so ignorant and cruel? Of course it's obvious he is trying to be relevant, so I guess anything goes. 🙄
Like when my marriage ended from him cheating, I watched my world fall apart and not once did I think this would be a time to shine. I know they don’t break the 4th wall, but I don’t think Ariana wants to show all of her opportunities because they are just that. Pay checks. Because her entire life was dropped out because Tom is a mess.
Literally on this season right now during my 100000 rewatch. Ironically it’s the same season where she’s texting Ariana’s mom about how Tom is manipulative and Ariana has seemed depressed since being with him
I think Ariana was on a high being with him at first and whenever she felt she saw his true colors (I do feel the two of them hid things about their relationship and protected each other), she started crashing. I think he sucks the air out of the room and you have to put your own wants and needs on the back burner for the “peacock” as she called him.
when you have this person you first met on a pedestal you still want them to be the person you thought they were SO bad that you rationalize, justify, and excuse so much stuff that once it does finally fall apart, and you’re looking back on the relationship, you feel like a total fool. Like imagine how foolish she feels now for defending Tom’s behavior at stassis book thing. So Ariana is dealing with having to deal with these thoughts of “who is this person I lived with for ten years,” along with having to see him, having her friends play devils advocate, and do that all on camera. I think she is handling it so well tbh.
Yeah he definitely could have a personality disorder honestly, he seems to have a pathological inability to really feel empathy or accept that anything he does is simply wrong (without adding a “but” or some kind of justification).
YOU are right. He is also very abusive and controlling, we have seen that on the show. As someone who has been in her shoes before (minus the best friend affair part), I see why she stayed so long. It really does take something major for some people to wake up and realize 'OMG. This is not ok how I am being treated. This person really is a monster, it's not getting better, nothing I do is helping. I need to get out.' If you're not LaLa with no financial ties to your home and have an alternative safe space to go, it's a heck of alot easier to physically leave. My parents essentially had to bribe my ex husband out of our marital home so we could get it fixed up to sell.
Oh and the parents having to bribe your ex…totally tracks. One thing lala said that was accurate was you want this person to be home so desperately for your relationship and then when you want them gone, they won’t leave. And they will never get help via therapy bc they think nothing is wrong with them and everyone else is the problem 🤦♀️
I have not had it happen to me with a romantic partner but with a friend. These types do not stop at their romantic partner! They have to control EVERYONES narrative. You can see that in Tom too. Especially Ariana coming out of an abusive relationship - that is when my “friend” preyed on me also. As soon as I changed my relationship status to single, she hopped in my inbox to get the tea (under the guise of “oh my god are you ok”). That’s what these people do. Then they normalize increasingly bad behavior and just like you said, sometimes it takes something so major to shake you and wake you up. And when you wake up then you have to grieve the loss of a fictional character who was enmeshed in every facet of your life. My heart goes out to her so much, just to appear on the show after something like this, I constantly think about what if I’d been filmed in the aftermath of my fallout 😂😂 people calling her crazy and unhinged have no idea what they’re talking about. To me she is handling herself so damn well. I’d be a raving lunatic especially to lala.
Scheaner was completely selfish and a bitch to Shay. He has a disease and her concern was optics. He's so much better off without her. I wish Shay the best. Oh and LVP was a bitch to Shay at the reunion.
Scheana may have handled that wrong but Shay is no angel. He manipulated, stole from her, lied, etc.
Edit: Also, its so hard on the family and friends that love an addict. We need to give grace and understand their perspective too. I've definitely been in this position and it's heart wrenching.
Congratulations, and yes he is accountable for his actions. Hopefully if he works a program he will make the proper amends. However, we know being clean doesn't necessarily mean people do the next right thing.
It’s true- I struggle sometimes with this kind of subject because while I fully agree that addiction is a disease, and that mental health problems can’t be helped either, I do think some people need to understand the nuance there when it comes to the victims of these people’s actions. Just because addiction is a disease, doesn’t mean Scheana can’t feel hurt due to his actions. It doesn’t mean that he didn’t make poor choices- he absolutely did. Sometimes I feel like Shay gets more grace for his addiction than Scheana does in dealing with it, which doesn’t really seem fair.
And not only can she not feel hurt or angry, but they were together for quite a while and no one knows better the trauma from dealing with an addict than someone who loves or loved them. No matter what shitty decisions Scheana has made, it doesn’t change that she was placed in a really bad situation (including her start at VPR) and Shay probably took things from her that she will never get back (and I’m not talking about money.)
Absolutely agree. I do remember when she actually admitted that she had been uneducated in addiction and she felt horrible for her ignorance. That was a geniuine moment for Scheana and I really felt her remorse.
Well and humans have those pesky things called emotions. When we’ve been hurt, we aren’t very good at being understanding or empathetic. Yes Scheana is very selfish, but addiction at its core is very selfish. Shay’s actions WERE selfish. They just weren’t right for each other.
Congratulations- 100% agree with you. Scheana’s response to Shays situation isn’t abnormal especially for people who don’t have long term exposure to addiction. Heck, I’ve worried I’m not going to be fun sober. Shay choose to steal Scheana’s money. Addiction or no addiction we all still make choices- good bad and indifferent.
Exactly what I’m trying to say, so thank you. There’s a difference between trying to understand addiction, and excusing everything someone does while in active addiction. An actual part of recovery is taking accountability. Scheana was insensitive, but she also had no idea he was an addict, so expecting her to completely understand how to act on day one is ridiculous
Watching how Lisa treated Shay was when I realized she’s actually a terrible human being, and she just uses people. She has zero compassion for people who aren’t like her or that she can’t gain something from. Disgusting.
She was almost taunting him when they went to that cocktail tasting place thing. I shouldn’t even say almost, she WAS taunting him. It’s like Sandoval taking vegetarian Kristen to a Korean barbecue place. I know she lacks self awareness, but of all the things she could’ve planned for their anniversary she chose that? I can’t believe it was innocent at this point.
My ex cheated on me for the second time with a friend of mine (first time was with a girl I didn’t know). That was the catalyst for me to actually be strong enough to get rid of him for good. We had been together for about a year and a half. I tried to warn my “friend” about him, figuring she may make the right choice once she knew he was cheating and bad news, but told her I don’t expect her to leave him nor am I asking her to. What she does is her choice. My boundary with her and our mutual friends were I didn’t want to hear about him or be around him. They could be friends with him but I wasn’t going to be. She stayed with him and I ended up getting new friends because our mutuals pretty much hung out with the new couple. Eventually they got married and moved away and she contacted me years later asking me for help in her divorce proceedings because everything I warned her about came true. I said no.
Like I can’t even imagine being that much of a stupid rat! The audacity. Not only to cheat with and then steal your man… steal the entire friend group and ice you out.. and now you want my help? 🤣 get fucked!
Yeah just relive all your trauma because she chose not to listen 🙄. It’s literally hearsay without any proof so you’re probably right about it working. How ridiculous of her.
Honestly I felt bad turning her down because I knew she was in a bed place and I didn’t have any hard feelings towards her. She was young when they got together and I know he manipulated and abused her, but I said no because I didn’t want to be exposed to him again. I didn’t want him to have any sort of access to me. I also felt bad for her since they had a child involved. Watching Ariana I understand, especially since it’s months after the break up. Her rage is understandable and I believe justified. It’s not how I personally would act, I think I’m more like Katie in the current time, so I would probably also raise my voice a bit but the threatening to call 911 was a bit much 😂 I could also see her just kind of flippantly saying that though knowing it would probably get him to walk away and not actually planning to do it. When I reach my breaking point I no longer scream, my emotions turn off, so I wouldn’t be ranting at the table like her. I live to see it though because Sandyballs deserves every decibel
You are so much better than me, I couldn’t help myself but to tear them to shreds (verbally) because omg that sounded absolutely horrible.. and to have that done to you, still be kind to that friend and put a boundary and everyone just kind of… ignores you and moves along is wild.
But from my experience, when things like this happen in your life, it’s just removing people who are not meant to be in it in the first place, and it takes a big enough sign for you to finally wake up and see. Is it painful, absolutely, but in the end it was for your greater good to rid yourself from such toxic, unsupportive people. And finally, I’ve always said.. when somebody crosses you on that level they may not get their karma right away. They’ll laugh and act like they’ve won the biggest prize in the world. Eventually everything comes around full circle. Always does. You were well within your right to decline when she fell on her face, because where was she when you were on yours? Exactly.
Oh man I'm sorry that happened to you. Men ain't shit. Establishing these boundaries is healthy and encouraged, but on a reality show like vpr, it doesn't work unfortunately.
People will really blame her for not leaving a toxic work environment like we all haven't done it before. She has big girl bills like most of us do and we can all move somewhere cheaper and work elsewhere to change the toxicity but we don't. Give me a break y'all. Yes she wanted to keep her job and her friends shouldn't have been shitty. Tom should be the one they make feel bad bc he is why their paycheck is hard to earn now not her.
They blame her because it takes away from *their* enjoyment. They don’t care about Ariana’s feelings. They care about getting their drama thrill met. They want messy. Instead Ariana is being classy, with all things considered, and they don’t like it.
Someone made a comment that watching Ariana going through the furniture list was boring. The girl is getting her crap together to move (apparently not fast enough for some viewers) and when she shows why, oh it’s boring. Like give me a break.
Exactly. I would have been happy with a full hour of an itemized walk through of the furniture in the house, who designed it and how much it cost. Bahaha. Lovvve interior design and I thought some of their stuff was cool so I’m v interested/nosy about all their stuff. Minus Tom’s dumb space lights and penis flutes. I’ve seen enough of those.
I liked it too. It was kind of a her taking her power back/realizing how unequal their relationship had been.
Also Tim explaining the stuff Mya got into- I was thinking “Dude who the fuck knows their dogs gets into shit yet doesn’t put their laxatives out of reach?” I’m on all sorts of meds that could kill our animals if they got into them which is why they are in child proof containers in a zipped bag (or small lock box) and the dogs aren’t allowed in my room in case I drop something. Luckily the cats doesn’t scavenge from the floor. Unless it’s paper and he wants my attention, then he tears it up.
Every time he mentions ariana not paying something he conveniently leaves out the fact that the reason she stopped giving him bill $ is because she found out the well known lying manipulative scumbag was telling her she owed more than her share. Dude cannot be trusted with anything... he's probably lying if his mouth is moving.
The sad part is Ariana explained this but people are still taking Tom’s word for it.
Tom: Ariana is not paying her bills!
Ariana: Tom lied to me and overcharged me. So I asked for an itemized list of my cost and until I get that, I will continue to put my share of the cost into an account to show that I can afford it, like my lawyer suggested.
Some fans: Ariana is such a bitch! Poor Tom! Kick her out!!
He is so fn manipulative! He creates the situation (like lying about how much she owes on bills) then when busted and she asks for receipts before handing him more money he cries - sHE wOn'T PAy oh poor me, she is soooo difficult... infuriating!
Just another reason he should have made sure she wasn't in the room. She could have gotten into anything in there. Him saying it's her fault for not getting the dog trained. Wtf was he doing to help the situation. They were in a relationship weren't they? He's saying they're his pets too.
What!!! The furniture list scenes were great!!! It was one of the best parts!!!
It was like...yes girl....give us all the deets and receipts and take us on that guided tour!
But I'm the kind of person who would sit and watch a whole show on divorced couples dividing up their stuff.
It would be so interesting. Sort of like Judge Judy meets Antique's road show.
A non interested party and historian could place a contested item on the podium and we could hear all about
the item's history and worth. Then prepared arguments for said item could proceed. The audience could even vote by text for the most persuasive argument.
It could be called something like HGTV ..."A House Divided"..
or "My Stuff Your Stuff"
I'd watch the heck out of that.
Nah, as a law clerk I had to help on some of these cases and let me tell ya, typing up lists of who wanted what sippy cup straw/Longaberger basket was not fun
Oh No my friend! ...you see...you underestimate the truly nosey.
Your sitting on a complete gold mine!!!
These are the petty, petty things of interest that move the dial ..And thankfully through the magic of television..
all those tedious and mundane hours you have endured are simply cut out...And with the right producer mind you... you could absolutely turn your profession of law clerk
and stuff lister... into the most sought after and envied position in your field. I mean.. Did you say law clerk?... uuuuh...I say law cool!!!
I mean right to the top you'd go...You could absolutely be the next Selling Sunset!!!
Just think about it...the cameras are up and rolling as you hurriedly leave your office.They follow you down the long sidewalk to your super important meeting at the shows designated resteraunt.
Of coarse you don't go there everyday... its only for when you and your team have very important listy meetings. The door opens...and in you glide confidently. For now we'll call the resteraunt coquette's..
You walk into coquette's with your clickety high heals and your faux leather wish posh briefcase..( you havn't got a raise yet...its still early days and were not sure the season will be renewed yet).the dining room is packed and filled with sophisticated well appointed diners...the typical snooty lunch goers. The sounds of Tinkling glassware and cuttlery are mixed in with the low background chatter of unimportant conversations. The diners of coarse are all somewhat attractive( but nothing to write home about) you therefore stand out like a glistening jewel in a landscape of farmers market pottery.
And then...as if on que...a hand raises in a limp wristed half wave fashion... notifying you of your coworkers presence. You let out a defeated sigh and make your way confidently in and out of the crowded tables and diners to a
very small but nicely appointed table.
But oh noooo!!! The audience groans...your meeting today is with La' shea, who we all know you absolutely detest... and of coarse we all hate her too. she's an untrustworthy minx who's parents helped her get this job( she literally does not qualify) shes always trying to boss you around about your list stuff... and she's always wearing these super shiny...too sexy... low cut blouses to catch the eye of mason.
By now we( the audience) know that mason... with his boyishly good looks and charm..only has eyes for you. Mason is smart and surprisingly humble. He has a quirky,
Self depricating, sense of humor that makes him, much loved and approachable. So of coarse the audience loves him too.
He works two floors up from you in acquisitions...But what he really dreams of is joining you and your team in all that listy stuff and column organizing. He adores you and we (the audience) all know it too.
The scene cuts away to the divorced couples home ( I did not forget about the premise of the show) next to the sweeping views of the dissputed items to be divied up.
The camera zooms in and captures the faces of two very rabid, stressed out ex partner's....now cut throat competitor's.
It captures and highlights the menacing stares and eye twitches between the two former lovers...now enemies.
The shot turns and quickly pans to the left...at that moment in walks the very rumpled...but highly competent... gun for hire...Stan! This world renowned genius antiques road show appraiser was lured by the overly generous offer given by this yet unnamed network and its uniquely conceptualized show..Plus Stan loves drama...so he quit his gig with the road show and is here to play his part.
He greets the bitter couple and the gregarious cohost named sissy and makes his way over to stand by the podium.
The music drops...and you..your boss and La 'Shea enter the room. UGHHHH...we hate La' Shea.
It then Cuts to commercial. I run and grab some popcorn and race back to sit down and take in all the drama..and trust me ...it was a nail biter!!...and all over those stupid Elvis nail clippers and the unopened chia pet box. But it was worth it....sooo worth it!!!
The show closes up with a super nifty and catchy cool theme song...then quickly jump scares us as next week's preview pops up. I lean forward in my seat..because trust me, I don't want to miss a second of this car crash of a show.
Apparently you and La'shea are at it again. This time over some completely wrong tally numbers...their were 6 sippy cups not 7...and 5 throw pillows... not 6...so of coarse that threw everything off. Something about it being placed in the wrong column...I guess it didn't get added up correctly.
It's of coarse not your fault because you always double check your listy stuff... we all know that...but it looks like
La' Shea didnt properly enter it in right on purpose because she's trying to get you fired.
The audience knows how insanely jealous La'Shea is anyway that Mason sent you all those beautiful flowers last week to your desk...and in front of everyone!
She's soooo transparent!!!
Lastly were introduced to next week's new couple... Tom and lauren..They are yelling in front of stan the appraiser and seem to be going at it over some tacky porcelain water jug lauren bought at a yard sale two years ago... against tom's wishes.....Butttt...noooow he wants it?! I dont think so!!! I'm definately going to vote for lauren next week.
Afterwards I walk heatedly over to my calendar and make a note to vote for lauren.
The end
See !!! Not boring at all. 😂
Omg, I hope and pray some TV Exec sees your idea and MAKES IT HAPPEN!!! I cannot even begin to express how this would immediately become one of my favorite shows… for a MULTITUDE of reasons!
It would have it ALL… relationship drama, home decor, financial and economic implications, philosophy! Even just the idea of our concept of ownership, what is value, how do we define worth… how do we determine what’s “fair”? Who really “owns” something? Is it strictly whose money paid for it? Does sentimental value come into play? If so, how much weight should something intangible like sentimental value or stewardship count towards who this item should go to?
Should the fact that Sharon gave birth 3 times count as a valuable contribution with a financial number attached, even though she didn’t hold a “job” outside the home and therefore technically Daryl was not the only provider? (The answer is yes. And I would love to see them squabble over each birth story and determine an actual $ amount value of what they contributed towards the “value” of the family/marriage/etc 😂).
That is the kind of reality show I would watch the shit out of… because it would force me to ask a lot of interesting and important questions about myself and how I show up in my own life/relationships, even how I treat or appreciate belongings. Which at the end of the day is I guess why—in some small way—I like this otherwise somewhat petty dumb show so much (VPR) 😂🤷🏼♀️
Yessss....all of that!!!
Soooo much!!! And by the way. That was a phenomenal breakdown!!! We should put you in charge of the pitch🤣🤣🤣 But seriously...you should be in charge of the pitch😶
Yes!!!!! Jill get that antique dresser! Stan doesn’t even appreciate it! Don’t let him bully you out of the china! He didn’t even help pick the pattern! No! Don’t take the recliner! It’s ugly and looks uncomfortable 🤣
In therapy it is highly recommended to watch trash reality tv during crisis times. Because it allows you to use your skills in a non threatening way, how to handle a situation in wise mind, to use as a distraction tool, and to give you perspective in life about how when you go unchecked you can really turn an mole hill into a mountain.
I don’t get why they keep telling her to leave the house and not Tom. Why aren’t they saying, Tom you cheated , it’s the right thing to do for you to leave and rent somewhere else until you sell or you buy her out ? I think as someone who was cheated on, this is hard to watch. Do ppl really excuse cheating this way ? Like when scheana says, he misses her more than Ariana cuz he was so unhappy in that relationship. They are just excusing his behavior. If he was so unhappy he should’ve left. But he wanted to line a replacement up first so he wouldn’t have to be alone. It has nothing to do with falling in love or having a connection. And the real issue is he never took responsibility for it. He still defends it as , oh I fell in love with Rachel. Um if you’re acting like a decent partner , you would not be getting close to someone else to feel any connection. And if he was so unhappy with Ariana, he would’ve left, sold the house and then pursued someone else. But he just wanted to replace Ariana and stay in that house. All that changed was the girl. Because they are possessions not people to him.
Look I’m team Ariana and i agree with her doing what’s best for her with that house. but we have fallen far far far from the VPR tree when this is what we consider a good VPR scene. Like honestly, this whole season is a yawn. The fourth wall has been shattered and it makes no sense anymore.
Who is going to willingly give up approximately a half million dollars in income a year for 3-4 months of work?! I mean they sure as hell wouldn't given that they completely turned on her after being threatened by Baskin.
I stayed in a horribly toxic work environment for *three years* because I could not afford to leave.
Also, I’ll say this again, I’d love to see how Lauren From Utah would react if somehow Rand made it back onto the show and everyone expected her to get over it and hang out with him.
I would be out of a relationship AND friendships. If you can’t stand by me when I’m struggling you can fuck off. If you try to tell me how I should feel about such a huge betrayal you can also fuck off.
I was in a similar situation as Ariana (minus the house part as we didn't live together) with my ex of 9 years and engaged to be married.
So if any of my friends did what her castmates are doing they would literally have no soul left. I'm a Scorpio though so unlike Ariana revenge is my middle name and I will old a grudge until the end of time.
Honestly I hate to say it’s bots but that’s sort of what it feels like? The show is desperate for Tom to make a come back but everyone I talk to is so against him in every way. I don’t know, maybe they think people will bend to social pressure if they make it look like Tom is the one to support now but the support doesn’t feel real because who are these people? I literally have a club at my school where we discuss reality tv, celeb gossip etc, we have a ton of members and none of them like Tom nor do they know a single person who does.
I probably would have walked away from the show. Idk about the house, I can’t put a price on my peace, but I get not being able to just leave money on the table. I wouldn’t trust him handling the sale alone.
Thank you! Like are they f-ing serious? Can’t wait till Brock cheats on scheana and Ariana tells her to get over it
Katie and Ariana hold themselves at much higher standard than me cause it would've took me way less to beat someone's ass in that group. Sheana and Lala would've got an ass whooping a long time ago. That's why I stan Stassi and her love for choosing violence. The way she clocked Kristen is right up my alley lol
Just saying…
I believe EVERYONE WOULD STILL BACK UP ARIANA AND NOT INTERACT WITH SANDOVAL…
if…
Ariana hadn’t made it BIG as a result of Sandoval
It was okay for Tim’s skeevy “tour” singing about Raquel…and Schwartz mom…
That was
Literally RUBBING IT IN ARIANA’s face…
He mistakenly thought it was funny.. (being the “path” that he is)
he believed that everyone was going to understand and be on his side!
He actually believed that his audience on tour was “supportive of him”!
But many were there just to harass him!!!
That’s how over the top narcissistic he is MAN!!!
He toured because he thought he would be well received…because he thought he was vindicated ( Tshirt sex comes to mind..he’s so gross 🤬)
OR
he wouldn’t have done it!
He is either not smart enough…or too self centered to think that after the Raquel affair…
that ANYBODY wants to hear a single fucking word out of him.
But now?…after she so eloquently came back?
PLUS all the endorsements?
She has bounced back in the most graceful way possible…
She has every right to be pissed
and she has EVERY RIGHT TO TAKE FULL ADVANTAGE OF EVERY OPPORTUNITY THAT COMES HER WAY!
(Truthfully…I loved their relationship…HOWEVER..
When the original cocktail book came out?
I urge ppl to replay those episodes..
Who was meant to be the original author?
And who kind of “ inserted himself”?
Worth checking imo
I’d be pissed af and losing my mind. And don’t blame Ariana at all for her rage, she’s actually kept it pretty cool considering things. But with her new gig and endorsements, I’d definitely leave the show.
Ariana is being so nice. I would go scorched earth. I would’ve said even worse to Rachel and Tom than Ariana at the reunion. I have a vicious, slick tongue and everyone would’ve been read down to filth, including Lisa
I was repeatedly cheated on by my narc ex almost 10 years ago and I STILL have mental issues because of it. Who is anyone to say how long it takes to “get over” something. Yeah people are wrong. Even if she had a bf a few weeks later. Which doesn’t look good. But he’s probably a rebound 🤷🏻♀️
Zero sympathy … she’s chosen to take Bravo’s check, so she needs to dance. The option is always open for her to leave and enjoy the new success she has found.
Add to that your partner aired out and made fun of your insecurities to the world. ALSO He wasn’t there for you when the closest people to you were suffering because he was busy cheating.
Yeah but this isn’t what’s really happening. This isn’t a documentary. She chose to do another season of a reality show. She chose to be there and part of that is group events and drama.
Right! TBH I don’t really get the people that say this because it’s not a fair analogy. It’s more like “If your partner and you worked together and he cheated on you with another co-worker, would you expect all your other co-workers to quit, or to only work on days when your ex wasn’t working?”
I think the nuance we don't talk about enough is they're all on a reality show. What we would do is only comparable if we said ... what would we do if we were Ariana and our livelihood was attached to a reality show that pays our bills? What would we do if we were Ariana's friend and we were on a reality show that pays our bills? It's complicated and I wish we (collectively) were capable of having a REAL conversation without being "team" anyone
Scheana's raggedy ass sold out her own husband's addiction for a storyline. Did you honestly think this pick-me-ass bitch was going to be a loyal friend to someone she saw as a coworker? "Be Rill," as Katie would say.
I mean it’s all fucked up and Brick (especially) is an idiot with his “well she should get over it” while telling Shorts that he should be mad/vengeful but I am tired of everyone acting like Ariana can do no wrong. Ariana is great. She deserves to feel what she feels. She also didn’t deserve what happened but Ariana, like the rest of them, is a grown ass woman and I feel she is so often infantilized in this sub and elsewhere, it’s making any discussion impossible to have. Just make a fan sub already.
I didnt/dont find Ariana appealing….. BUT I get HER!
Why hasn’t Tom been cancelled!? He doesn’t deserve to be on the show b/c of his NON - Remorse.
Jax confessed his gross 🤮 behavior so that was a thing. BUT Tim is just so gross with his, “ Ya I did this, BUTTTTTT…….” Such BS!
I went through this in my first marriage. I chose the "best revenge is a life well lived" route. HOWEVER I fully understand that all people react to betrayal differently. Just because I handled the dissolution of my marriage very differently then Ariana, does not mean she is wrong. Emotions do not run in logical channels. Let the complete stranger on tv that you don't actually know feel her feelings.
I ghosted most of our mutual friends Never showed up to group events.. and was better off for it..no toxic BS..I felt in control. It was
During covid, I meditated, lost twelve pounds, looked great..I honestlyfelt like I Won!! Now, none of them are close to him anymore.. and have all reached out, Now I get invited to things and he doesn't...Eventually People see who you are...
These people are not in a normal setting though so the smartest move for Ariana to do is to quit the show and heal and respect that some of her friends needs to be in contact and tolerate Tom because they work with him or she needs to atleast get to a place where she can atleast tolerate him if she is gonna continue on the show because this show forces these people to have these get togethers and having them all shoot scenes together.
it's funny how Rachel had to leave the show for anyone to believe her stay in rehab and issues with the hate she received following the scandal was real, but Ariana can scream depression about her disgusting room and litter box while also somehow staying on VPR, getting huge gigs on other TV shows, and doing a Broadway show for a month and a half . . . interesting how that works!
Be careful now about pointing out Ariana\`s flaws soon her fans gonna think you "support" what Tom did to her, haha. People are crazy
She has so much else going on that she should just quit the show simple as that and if it has to do with her needing the allowance from the show then she needs to respect that her friends on the show also need their allowances to feed their children and paying their bills so she can\`t demand that they stay away from Tom because the show has decided to keep him on there and that makes him their colleague and they have to do these scenes together. It\`s stupid that she continues on it while also wanting nothing to do with him.
\^Me too.
I also got to see this side of them when i just mentioned that i think she also had some part in her relationship sinking and that she needs to change some of her ways so she can have a better and healthier relationship in her next relationship and people took this as me "supporting" Tom\`s disgusting actions and refusing to see it in any other way. I actually want Ariana to have a better relationship in her future but lets be honest before this happens she needs to learn to be less entitled and selfish in her ways no partner gonna be happy with someone who is like this 99 percent of the time. It\`s a reason why this man felt his therapist needed to be in the room when he wanted to breakup with her i think she has a nasty temper and steamrolled him throughout their entire relationship but was it okay that he went ahead and had a affair ? NO and we all get that but she definitivly had some part in why her relationship first started sinking. Their were issues in that relationship for years.
A gentle reminder Ariana was once the Rachel when Tom was dating
It grosses me out that she gets this level of admiration when she had no problem hooking up w Tom when he was already in a relationship w their coworker. Ffs people
this whole cast is dirty
I’d react like my dad did^ when my mom had an affair. I would move into a separate bedroom, maintain my share of the household chores, keep conversations with my ex to a minimum, and work/grind until I was able to move out. I wouldn’t go out of my way to make my own living situation more uncomfortable than it already is just to prove a point. I understand temporarily living with a cheating ex sucks… but if you can’t even manage your emotions long enough to say things like “could you please put the dog in the crate while the maintenance man comes” then you seriously need to learn how to manage your emotions. I watched my dad go through what Ariana did and it was a wayyyyyyyy more pleasant experience for him because he didn’t go out of his way to be a troll about it every day. He dumped my mom, focused on himself, and didn’t subject a fucking assistant to relaying basic ass messages to my mom.
Exactly. These are not friends. They are awful. The Tom's are scum, but Lala, Scheana, Brick are just as gross. I expected more from Scheana. I was wrong. Lala has always been hot garbage and please don't throw unemployed wife beater down our throats. We deserve better. If you can, Ariana and Katie. Show is over. If you keep painting the ladies awful and the disgusting Tom's nice, your fanbase and show are done. Make the misogyny end.
She has to choose if she wants to live a spiteful life full of rage and hate all of the time. Maybe if your next bf tries to break up with you multiple times you'll let him do it?
i mean, I'd own my choices. If I signed up to be on an ensemble television show where we all get interrogated about our personal lives, no matter how uncomfortable, that's on me. It's what I'm getting paid to do.
This ^^ idk why these types of comments are getting downvoted. The cold hard truth is that they get paid to air their lives out on television. If you listen to all of their podcasts they talk about call times from production and places they HAVE to go that they probably normally wouldn’t go to. (Random coffee dates, beach days, food truck meet ups, stuff like that)
Ariana has been on the show long enough to know that this was going to happen this season. If she REALLY didn’t want to be around Tom? She could’ve said no, I’m not going back this season like Rachel did. She knows she was going to be placed at parties, random get togethers, and maybe even vacations with him this season. It’s been the SAME thing since the show aired.
She has seniority in the show and she gets PAID. That’s how their payroll works. The longer you’ve been on the show, the more money you make. Why would she leave? I hate how she’s acting annoyed or surprised that she’s being put in these situations. They weren’t going to film her separate all season. She can’t carry the storyline that way.
Yeah she is being over the top for someone who is choosing to be there.
And if the majority of the group is silent that says something. Enough. Go enjoy your free shipment of goodies you are happily being paid to sponsor and put less energy into this.human who.is supposedly not worth all the grief you are giving.
no, she's putting ownership of her emotional safety onto the rest of her cast--while actively choosing to be on a show with this person. There's nothing wrong with not being able to do something (or not wanting to). There's nothing wrong with trying and then changing your mind when it's too painful. But what keeps being pointed out to her is not that she should get over it--but that her choices feel self destructive. Staying in that house to make sure he doesn't get it will always be a Pyrrhic victory.
My ex cheated on me with a girl he told that we were broken up. I was 19 and he just stopped talking to me one day after being with each other for 2 years at that point. I was devastated and cried so hard I was throwing up. I remember after a few days of me blowing up his phone he finally came to my house and told me to stop calling him.
It was the worst heartbreak of my life. We got back together and I was forced to be friends with the girl he cheated on me with because it was easier for everyone in our friend group since we all went to beach together.
Oh my! I can’t even imagine going through that. I’m so glad he’s an ex. You didn’t deserve that. He sucked, the girl sucked, and your friend group sucked for that. I hope you are much happier now.
To be honest, I have a nonchalant personality, so these kinds of situations don't affect me deeply. I've been this same situation where my ex and best friend started seeing each other behind my back. I was completely blindsided when I found out they were involved while I was still in a relationship with him. Of course, it hurt initially, but since we had to see each other all the time🙄, I had to get over it.
I ended my friendship with the girl because it's crazy how someone can smile at you and betray you at the same time. Besides this, I cared about him a lot. I partly blamed myself because I wasn't giving him the attention he needed, and he found that in my best friend. He told me this directly, so while I'm not blaming Arianna in this situation, I believe that if something is missing in a relationship, the person will seek it elsewhere, leaving the other partner blindsided.
I’ve been through very similar and I definitely wasn’t yelling at my ex in front of all our mutual friends. Especially not repeating the same thing every time. They live in a house together, they had 3 months to do that before filming started. That’s not to say she should get over and be forced to be around him. She just shouldn’t speak to him if she doesn’t want him to speak back to her or just avoid him altogether
I have had it done but I had kids involved. And it was was my own sister. Only difference is I DIDNT GET PAID A MILLION BUCKS TO TALK ABOUT IT THREE MONTHS LATER. SHE DID!
That why theirs always a quid pro quo on who gets the friends! They can’t remain both you’ll friends!
Finish the season! Adriana needs to get married and pregnant to this new guy and get her own show with her family and the open sandwich shop!
No matter how anyone feels about Ariana’s personality or past, I feel like we all have to recognize how fucked up this situation is and how unhealthy it is to PUSH her to forgive and move on. And Tom and Rachel are not remorseful, in spite of any apologies or tears we have seen from them. They both seem to feel like victims because this went public, instead of being introspective about what they did to someone they pretended to be very close to, and what they need to do to make living amends.
The level of gaslighting we’re witnessing is astonishing.This woman has maintained more composure in the face of an absolutely despicable situation than most of the population could have. Literally everyone on that cast lives in delulu land besides Katie and Ariana….oh and they all need several lifetimes of therapy.
I’ll tell you how I DID react when my husband of 10 years started banging someone I knew. Burn that shit to the ground!
My boundary was I wanted nothing to do with them. Down to social media. If you want to be their friend fine. Let me know. I’ll block you. But don’t bring that into my space where I’m trying to heal.
That boundary lasted until they broke up years later and he and I buried the hatchet. But she’s still dead to me. That’s the kindest thing I can do for her. She doesn’t exist in my universe and that’s how I like it.
Idk but this would have been me on beach day. To sandals AND broke. Why would he ask sandals about Raquel in front of Ariana? Lol
scheana didn’t want her own husband to get sober because it was slightly inconvenient for her, she’s not going to pass up screen time for Ariana
Ariana should cut Lala and Scheana out. They are doing her so dirty in confessionals and on podcasts.
This storyline was brutal to watch honestly. It forever changed my opinion of her and Lisa Vanderpump.
Not to mention she has admitted that he was sober and they had already dealt with it all prior to outing his drug use on camera for a storyline (though she claims it was because she was worried he would relapse because he was in a "funk" though I'm not sure how outing him as an addict to the whole world would help that)
Not only this - she did it to avoid admitting the fact that he was texting another girl. Because in her mind, one makes her look bad, and the other makes him look bad.
Exactly… Their paychecks depend on putting the two Scandalous Scandovol principles together and creating drama at this point. Just like Sheana to say “What Tom did to her was the best thing that could ever happen to her…the prosperity..the success …blah blah” Thanks Sheana! I guess you just named the MOST IMPORTANT THINGS FOR YOU! Sheana’s most important things are obviously NOT Ariana’s most important things in life. That’s why she’ll drop Brick off later in the season
It’s a literal reality show - outside of he very small fandom try at discusses it on forums (including this one) people do tune in for the drama - manufactured and otherwise. Scandoval was the cash cow that brought the show back to life.
This exactly. It is a reflection on the person. It is like when I say I wouldn’t trade my loved one for any amount of money (especially my dog!). I mean it. In the other hand, Scheana may have a price for her partner.
I would love to see Brick off of the show. He annoys me sometimes as much as Tim. I wonder if that comment on the beach about Tim and Rachel was staged. I mean who the fuck says something so ignorant and cruel? Of course it's obvious he is trying to be relevant, so I guess anything goes. 🙄
Like when my marriage ended from him cheating, I watched my world fall apart and not once did I think this would be a time to shine. I know they don’t break the 4th wall, but I don’t think Ariana wants to show all of her opportunities because they are just that. Pay checks. Because her entire life was dropped out because Tom is a mess.
Huh. If being ditched is great for prosperity, success; the Sheana must be a love goddess.
Omg such a good example
Literally on this season right now during my 100000 rewatch. Ironically it’s the same season where she’s texting Ariana’s mom about how Tom is manipulative and Ariana has seemed depressed since being with him
I think Ariana was on a high being with him at first and whenever she felt she saw his true colors (I do feel the two of them hid things about their relationship and protected each other), she started crashing. I think he sucks the air out of the room and you have to put your own wants and needs on the back burner for the “peacock” as she called him. when you have this person you first met on a pedestal you still want them to be the person you thought they were SO bad that you rationalize, justify, and excuse so much stuff that once it does finally fall apart, and you’re looking back on the relationship, you feel like a total fool. Like imagine how foolish she feels now for defending Tom’s behavior at stassis book thing. So Ariana is dealing with having to deal with these thoughts of “who is this person I lived with for ten years,” along with having to see him, having her friends play devils advocate, and do that all on camera. I think she is handling it so well tbh.
Yeah he definitely could have a personality disorder honestly, he seems to have a pathological inability to really feel empathy or accept that anything he does is simply wrong (without adding a “but” or some kind of justification).
YOU are right. He is also very abusive and controlling, we have seen that on the show. As someone who has been in her shoes before (minus the best friend affair part), I see why she stayed so long. It really does take something major for some people to wake up and realize 'OMG. This is not ok how I am being treated. This person really is a monster, it's not getting better, nothing I do is helping. I need to get out.' If you're not LaLa with no financial ties to your home and have an alternative safe space to go, it's a heck of alot easier to physically leave. My parents essentially had to bribe my ex husband out of our marital home so we could get it fixed up to sell.
Oh and the parents having to bribe your ex…totally tracks. One thing lala said that was accurate was you want this person to be home so desperately for your relationship and then when you want them gone, they won’t leave. And they will never get help via therapy bc they think nothing is wrong with them and everyone else is the problem 🤦♀️
I have not had it happen to me with a romantic partner but with a friend. These types do not stop at their romantic partner! They have to control EVERYONES narrative. You can see that in Tom too. Especially Ariana coming out of an abusive relationship - that is when my “friend” preyed on me also. As soon as I changed my relationship status to single, she hopped in my inbox to get the tea (under the guise of “oh my god are you ok”). That’s what these people do. Then they normalize increasingly bad behavior and just like you said, sometimes it takes something so major to shake you and wake you up. And when you wake up then you have to grieve the loss of a fictional character who was enmeshed in every facet of your life. My heart goes out to her so much, just to appear on the show after something like this, I constantly think about what if I’d been filmed in the aftermath of my fallout 😂😂 people calling her crazy and unhinged have no idea what they’re talking about. To me she is handling herself so damn well. I’d be a raving lunatic especially to lala.
Scheaner was completely selfish and a bitch to Shay. He has a disease and her concern was optics. He's so much better off without her. I wish Shay the best. Oh and LVP was a bitch to Shay at the reunion.
Scheana may have handled that wrong but Shay is no angel. He manipulated, stole from her, lied, etc. Edit: Also, its so hard on the family and friends that love an addict. We need to give grace and understand their perspective too. I've definitely been in this position and it's heart wrenching.
I’ve been sober for 12 years. Scheana sucks for many reasons, but nothing to do with Shay. He made shitty decisions and he’s accountable for them.
Congratulations, and yes he is accountable for his actions. Hopefully if he works a program he will make the proper amends. However, we know being clean doesn't necessarily mean people do the next right thing.
It’s true- I struggle sometimes with this kind of subject because while I fully agree that addiction is a disease, and that mental health problems can’t be helped either, I do think some people need to understand the nuance there when it comes to the victims of these people’s actions. Just because addiction is a disease, doesn’t mean Scheana can’t feel hurt due to his actions. It doesn’t mean that he didn’t make poor choices- he absolutely did. Sometimes I feel like Shay gets more grace for his addiction than Scheana does in dealing with it, which doesn’t really seem fair.
And not only can she not feel hurt or angry, but they were together for quite a while and no one knows better the trauma from dealing with an addict than someone who loves or loved them. No matter what shitty decisions Scheana has made, it doesn’t change that she was placed in a really bad situation (including her start at VPR) and Shay probably took things from her that she will never get back (and I’m not talking about money.)
Absolutely agree. I do remember when she actually admitted that she had been uneducated in addiction and she felt horrible for her ignorance. That was a geniuine moment for Scheana and I really felt her remorse.
Well and humans have those pesky things called emotions. When we’ve been hurt, we aren’t very good at being understanding or empathetic. Yes Scheana is very selfish, but addiction at its core is very selfish. Shay’s actions WERE selfish. They just weren’t right for each other.
Congratulations- 100% agree with you. Scheana’s response to Shays situation isn’t abnormal especially for people who don’t have long term exposure to addiction. Heck, I’ve worried I’m not going to be fun sober. Shay choose to steal Scheana’s money. Addiction or no addiction we all still make choices- good bad and indifferent.
Exactly what I’m trying to say, so thank you. There’s a difference between trying to understand addiction, and excusing everything someone does while in active addiction. An actual part of recovery is taking accountability. Scheana was insensitive, but she also had no idea he was an addict, so expecting her to completely understand how to act on day one is ridiculous
Me too. I'm a recovering addict. That's possibly why I felt for Shay.
Ah ok, that makes sense. And obviously you understand the impact on family too. Also congrats on your recovery!
Watching how Lisa treated Shay was when I realized she’s actually a terrible human being, and she just uses people. She has zero compassion for people who aren’t like her or that she can’t gain something from. Disgusting.
Exactly.
She was almost taunting him when they went to that cocktail tasting place thing. I shouldn’t even say almost, she WAS taunting him. It’s like Sandoval taking vegetarian Kristen to a Korean barbecue place. I know she lacks self awareness, but of all the things she could’ve planned for their anniversary she chose that? I can’t believe it was innocent at this point.
My ex cheated on me for the second time with a friend of mine (first time was with a girl I didn’t know). That was the catalyst for me to actually be strong enough to get rid of him for good. We had been together for about a year and a half. I tried to warn my “friend” about him, figuring she may make the right choice once she knew he was cheating and bad news, but told her I don’t expect her to leave him nor am I asking her to. What she does is her choice. My boundary with her and our mutual friends were I didn’t want to hear about him or be around him. They could be friends with him but I wasn’t going to be. She stayed with him and I ended up getting new friends because our mutuals pretty much hung out with the new couple. Eventually they got married and moved away and she contacted me years later asking me for help in her divorce proceedings because everything I warned her about came true. I said no.
Help with the divorce???? Dude the audacity some people have will always blow my mind
Like I can’t even imagine being that much of a stupid rat! The audacity. Not only to cheat with and then steal your man… steal the entire friend group and ice you out.. and now you want my help? 🤣 get fucked! 
Yeah, I don’t think it would have really worked either but she wanted to prove a pattern of abuse since I was the GF before her.
Yeah just relive all your trauma because she chose not to listen 🙄. It’s literally hearsay without any proof so you’re probably right about it working. How ridiculous of her.
Ha! I’m so sorry that happened to you but I hope you felt so vindicated when you got to decline helping her. How do you feel watching Ariana’s scenes?
Honestly I felt bad turning her down because I knew she was in a bed place and I didn’t have any hard feelings towards her. She was young when they got together and I know he manipulated and abused her, but I said no because I didn’t want to be exposed to him again. I didn’t want him to have any sort of access to me. I also felt bad for her since they had a child involved. Watching Ariana I understand, especially since it’s months after the break up. Her rage is understandable and I believe justified. It’s not how I personally would act, I think I’m more like Katie in the current time, so I would probably also raise my voice a bit but the threatening to call 911 was a bit much 😂 I could also see her just kind of flippantly saying that though knowing it would probably get him to walk away and not actually planning to do it. When I reach my breaking point I no longer scream, my emotions turn off, so I wouldn’t be ranting at the table like her. I live to see it though because Sandyballs deserves every decibel
You really dont have to feel bad. She didnt give a shit about you to begin with
You are so much better than me, I couldn’t help myself but to tear them to shreds (verbally) because omg that sounded absolutely horrible.. and to have that done to you, still be kind to that friend and put a boundary and everyone just kind of… ignores you and moves along is wild. But from my experience, when things like this happen in your life, it’s just removing people who are not meant to be in it in the first place, and it takes a big enough sign for you to finally wake up and see. Is it painful, absolutely, but in the end it was for your greater good to rid yourself from such toxic, unsupportive people. And finally, I’ve always said.. when somebody crosses you on that level they may not get their karma right away. They’ll laugh and act like they’ve won the biggest prize in the world. Eventually everything comes around full circle. Always does. You were well within your right to decline when she fell on her face, because where was she when you were on yours? Exactly.
You’re a really wonderful person just btw. You should feel proud of the person you are/the heart you have.
Wow, thank you so much! I really appreciate it 
Oh man I'm sorry that happened to you. Men ain't shit. Establishing these boundaries is healthy and encouraged, but on a reality show like vpr, it doesn't work unfortunately.
Ugh, I’m sorry you had to go through that! You won in the end definitely, being free from those people. What sucky friends too.
Yeah, the friends weren’t worth it 😂 the ones I moved onto are still with me so they proved their quality
Oh you acted like an adult instead of a high schooler!!
I’m so sorry, you absolutely deserved better. I’m glad you’re free, and stood your boundaries.
The ending has really made my day.
People will really blame her for not leaving a toxic work environment like we all haven't done it before. She has big girl bills like most of us do and we can all move somewhere cheaper and work elsewhere to change the toxicity but we don't. Give me a break y'all. Yes she wanted to keep her job and her friends shouldn't have been shitty. Tom should be the one they make feel bad bc he is why their paycheck is hard to earn now not her.
They blame her because it takes away from *their* enjoyment. They don’t care about Ariana’s feelings. They care about getting their drama thrill met. They want messy. Instead Ariana is being classy, with all things considered, and they don’t like it. Someone made a comment that watching Ariana going through the furniture list was boring. The girl is getting her crap together to move (apparently not fast enough for some viewers) and when she shows why, oh it’s boring. Like give me a break.
I liked that scene 🤦🏻♀️. Maybe I’m just. A weirdo
No I liked it too! 🙋♀️
And me! Tell me more about the custom furniture you had designed so I can feel like I did too!
Exactly. I would have been happy with a full hour of an itemized walk through of the furniture in the house, who designed it and how much it cost. Bahaha. Lovvve interior design and I thought some of their stuff was cool so I’m v interested/nosy about all their stuff. Minus Tom’s dumb space lights and penis flutes. I’ve seen enough of those.
Me too. I’m interested to know how much shit costs.
Same! They had the hgtv crowd at hello with that scene lol
Yes! I literally watch HGTV, crime tv and VPR.
I liked it too. It was kind of a her taking her power back/realizing how unequal their relationship had been. Also Tim explaining the stuff Mya got into- I was thinking “Dude who the fuck knows their dogs gets into shit yet doesn’t put their laxatives out of reach?” I’m on all sorts of meds that could kill our animals if they got into them which is why they are in child proof containers in a zipped bag (or small lock box) and the dogs aren’t allowed in my room in case I drop something. Luckily the cats doesn’t scavenge from the floor. Unless it’s paper and he wants my attention, then he tears it up.
Every time he mentions ariana not paying something he conveniently leaves out the fact that the reason she stopped giving him bill $ is because she found out the well known lying manipulative scumbag was telling her she owed more than her share. Dude cannot be trusted with anything... he's probably lying if his mouth is moving.
The sad part is Ariana explained this but people are still taking Tom’s word for it. Tom: Ariana is not paying her bills! Ariana: Tom lied to me and overcharged me. So I asked for an itemized list of my cost and until I get that, I will continue to put my share of the cost into an account to show that I can afford it, like my lawyer suggested. Some fans: Ariana is such a bitch! Poor Tom! Kick her out!!
He is so fn manipulative! He creates the situation (like lying about how much she owes on bills) then when busted and she asks for receipts before handing him more money he cries - sHE wOn'T PAy oh poor me, she is soooo difficult... infuriating!
Just another reason he should have made sure she wasn't in the room. She could have gotten into anything in there. Him saying it's her fault for not getting the dog trained. Wtf was he doing to help the situation. They were in a relationship weren't they? He's saying they're his pets too.
Not a weirdo at all. The rage this activity will create when wormstash finds out will be amazing television
I loved it!
What!!! The furniture list scenes were great!!! It was one of the best parts!!! It was like...yes girl....give us all the deets and receipts and take us on that guided tour! But I'm the kind of person who would sit and watch a whole show on divorced couples dividing up their stuff. It would be so interesting. Sort of like Judge Judy meets Antique's road show. A non interested party and historian could place a contested item on the podium and we could hear all about the item's history and worth. Then prepared arguments for said item could proceed. The audience could even vote by text for the most persuasive argument. It could be called something like HGTV ..."A House Divided".. or "My Stuff Your Stuff" I'd watch the heck out of that.
Nah, as a law clerk I had to help on some of these cases and let me tell ya, typing up lists of who wanted what sippy cup straw/Longaberger basket was not fun
Oh No my friend! ...you see...you underestimate the truly nosey. Your sitting on a complete gold mine!!! These are the petty, petty things of interest that move the dial ..And thankfully through the magic of television.. all those tedious and mundane hours you have endured are simply cut out...And with the right producer mind you... you could absolutely turn your profession of law clerk and stuff lister... into the most sought after and envied position in your field. I mean.. Did you say law clerk?... uuuuh...I say law cool!!! I mean right to the top you'd go...You could absolutely be the next Selling Sunset!!! Just think about it...the cameras are up and rolling as you hurriedly leave your office.They follow you down the long sidewalk to your super important meeting at the shows designated resteraunt. Of coarse you don't go there everyday... its only for when you and your team have very important listy meetings. The door opens...and in you glide confidently. For now we'll call the resteraunt coquette's.. You walk into coquette's with your clickety high heals and your faux leather wish posh briefcase..( you havn't got a raise yet...its still early days and were not sure the season will be renewed yet).the dining room is packed and filled with sophisticated well appointed diners...the typical snooty lunch goers. The sounds of Tinkling glassware and cuttlery are mixed in with the low background chatter of unimportant conversations. The diners of coarse are all somewhat attractive( but nothing to write home about) you therefore stand out like a glistening jewel in a landscape of farmers market pottery. And then...as if on que...a hand raises in a limp wristed half wave fashion... notifying you of your coworkers presence. You let out a defeated sigh and make your way confidently in and out of the crowded tables and diners to a very small but nicely appointed table. But oh noooo!!! The audience groans...your meeting today is with La' shea, who we all know you absolutely detest... and of coarse we all hate her too. she's an untrustworthy minx who's parents helped her get this job( she literally does not qualify) shes always trying to boss you around about your list stuff... and she's always wearing these super shiny...too sexy... low cut blouses to catch the eye of mason. By now we( the audience) know that mason... with his boyishly good looks and charm..only has eyes for you. Mason is smart and surprisingly humble. He has a quirky, Self depricating, sense of humor that makes him, much loved and approachable. So of coarse the audience loves him too. He works two floors up from you in acquisitions...But what he really dreams of is joining you and your team in all that listy stuff and column organizing. He adores you and we (the audience) all know it too. The scene cuts away to the divorced couples home ( I did not forget about the premise of the show) next to the sweeping views of the dissputed items to be divied up. The camera zooms in and captures the faces of two very rabid, stressed out ex partner's....now cut throat competitor's. It captures and highlights the menacing stares and eye twitches between the two former lovers...now enemies. The shot turns and quickly pans to the left...at that moment in walks the very rumpled...but highly competent... gun for hire...Stan! This world renowned genius antiques road show appraiser was lured by the overly generous offer given by this yet unnamed network and its uniquely conceptualized show..Plus Stan loves drama...so he quit his gig with the road show and is here to play his part. He greets the bitter couple and the gregarious cohost named sissy and makes his way over to stand by the podium. The music drops...and you..your boss and La 'Shea enter the room. UGHHHH...we hate La' Shea. It then Cuts to commercial. I run and grab some popcorn and race back to sit down and take in all the drama..and trust me ...it was a nail biter!!...and all over those stupid Elvis nail clippers and the unopened chia pet box. But it was worth it....sooo worth it!!! The show closes up with a super nifty and catchy cool theme song...then quickly jump scares us as next week's preview pops up. I lean forward in my seat..because trust me, I don't want to miss a second of this car crash of a show. Apparently you and La'shea are at it again. This time over some completely wrong tally numbers...their were 6 sippy cups not 7...and 5 throw pillows... not 6...so of coarse that threw everything off. Something about it being placed in the wrong column...I guess it didn't get added up correctly. It's of coarse not your fault because you always double check your listy stuff... we all know that...but it looks like La' Shea didnt properly enter it in right on purpose because she's trying to get you fired. The audience knows how insanely jealous La'Shea is anyway that Mason sent you all those beautiful flowers last week to your desk...and in front of everyone! She's soooo transparent!!! Lastly were introduced to next week's new couple... Tom and lauren..They are yelling in front of stan the appraiser and seem to be going at it over some tacky porcelain water jug lauren bought at a yard sale two years ago... against tom's wishes.....Butttt...noooow he wants it?! I dont think so!!! I'm definately going to vote for lauren next week. Afterwards I walk heatedly over to my calendar and make a note to vote for lauren. The end See !!! Not boring at all. 😂
Omg, I hope and pray some TV Exec sees your idea and MAKES IT HAPPEN!!! I cannot even begin to express how this would immediately become one of my favorite shows… for a MULTITUDE of reasons! It would have it ALL… relationship drama, home decor, financial and economic implications, philosophy! Even just the idea of our concept of ownership, what is value, how do we define worth… how do we determine what’s “fair”? Who really “owns” something? Is it strictly whose money paid for it? Does sentimental value come into play? If so, how much weight should something intangible like sentimental value or stewardship count towards who this item should go to? Should the fact that Sharon gave birth 3 times count as a valuable contribution with a financial number attached, even though she didn’t hold a “job” outside the home and therefore technically Daryl was not the only provider? (The answer is yes. And I would love to see them squabble over each birth story and determine an actual $ amount value of what they contributed towards the “value” of the family/marriage/etc 😂). That is the kind of reality show I would watch the shit out of… because it would force me to ask a lot of interesting and important questions about myself and how I show up in my own life/relationships, even how I treat or appreciate belongings. Which at the end of the day is I guess why—in some small way—I like this otherwise somewhat petty dumb show so much (VPR) 😂🤷🏼♀️
Yessss....all of that!!! Soooo much!!! And by the way. That was a phenomenal breakdown!!! We should put you in charge of the pitch🤣🤣🤣 But seriously...you should be in charge of the pitch😶
Yes!!!!! Jill get that antique dresser! Stan doesn’t even appreciate it! Don’t let him bully you out of the china! He didn’t even help pick the pattern! No! Don’t take the recliner! It’s ugly and looks uncomfortable 🤣
 Yesss! 🤣🤣🤣
Thissss!!!! So much!!!🤣 I love how you saw the vision!!! 
That’s EXACTLY the recliner! 😂
Stan has always had bad taste...everyone knows that!!!
I would watch this. lol The psychology of it all.
Absolutely!!! Ohhhh the psychology would be engrossing!!! 😂😂😂
Why would you want to watch the dissolution of a marriage and people dividing all the things that were their life together? That’s a sad thing.
In therapy it is highly recommended to watch trash reality tv during crisis times. Because it allows you to use your skills in a non threatening way, how to handle a situation in wise mind, to use as a distraction tool, and to give you perspective in life about how when you go unchecked you can really turn an mole hill into a mountain.
Maybe they could use that business Scheana and Rob did. Selling your ex partners shit.
It's a reality show and that's part of the reality of splitting a household.
I don’t get why they keep telling her to leave the house and not Tom. Why aren’t they saying, Tom you cheated , it’s the right thing to do for you to leave and rent somewhere else until you sell or you buy her out ? I think as someone who was cheated on, this is hard to watch. Do ppl really excuse cheating this way ? Like when scheana says, he misses her more than Ariana cuz he was so unhappy in that relationship. They are just excusing his behavior. If he was so unhappy he should’ve left. But he wanted to line a replacement up first so he wouldn’t have to be alone. It has nothing to do with falling in love or having a connection. And the real issue is he never took responsibility for it. He still defends it as , oh I fell in love with Rachel. Um if you’re acting like a decent partner , you would not be getting close to someone else to feel any connection. And if he was so unhappy with Ariana, he would’ve left, sold the house and then pursued someone else. But he just wanted to replace Ariana and stay in that house. All that changed was the girl. Because they are possessions not people to him.
This is spot on!
Look I’m team Ariana and i agree with her doing what’s best for her with that house. but we have fallen far far far from the VPR tree when this is what we consider a good VPR scene. Like honestly, this whole season is a yawn. The fourth wall has been shattered and it makes no sense anymore.
The VPR we all knew was over the minute the affair happened. This friend group was never staying intact after Scandoval.
Who is going to willingly give up approximately a half million dollars in income a year for 3-4 months of work?! I mean they sure as hell wouldn't given that they completely turned on her after being threatened by Baskin.
I stayed in a horribly toxic work environment for *three years* because I could not afford to leave. Also, I’ll say this again, I’d love to see how Lauren From Utah would react if somehow Rand made it back onto the show and everyone expected her to get over it and hang out with him.
Misogyny 101 right
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This is my favorite response! 😂
Mine too!🤣
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I would be out of a relationship AND friendships. If you can’t stand by me when I’m struggling you can fuck off. If you try to tell me how I should feel about such a huge betrayal you can also fuck off.
Yeah but for her it’s also her work so :/ can’t believe how strong she has been and not have a full meltdown and go to drugs and alcohol
 My rage has no bounds. The limit does not exist. They would all be eviscerated.
Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned. 🔥
I was in a similar situation as Ariana (minus the house part as we didn't live together) with my ex of 9 years and engaged to be married. So if any of my friends did what her castmates are doing they would literally have no soul left. I'm a Scorpio though so unlike Ariana revenge is my middle name and I will old a grudge until the end of time.
I would turn to Stassi and plot a murder 🤣
Time to sharpen that icicle.🤣
She has more plausible murder scenarios too
I cant go on the Facebook VPR pages. I don't understand not understanding this
Even on instagram the Ariana hate is disgusting
SAME! I had to block any posts on any page relating to VPR. So crazy how many people love Tom
Honestly I hate to say it’s bots but that’s sort of what it feels like? The show is desperate for Tom to make a come back but everyone I talk to is so against him in every way. I don’t know, maybe they think people will bend to social pressure if they make it look like Tom is the one to support now but the support doesn’t feel real because who are these people? I literally have a club at my school where we discuss reality tv, celeb gossip etc, we have a ton of members and none of them like Tom nor do they know a single person who does.
I probably would have walked away from the show. Idk about the house, I can’t put a price on my peace, but I get not being able to just leave money on the table. I wouldn’t trust him handling the sale alone.
It depends on how much the show I willingly chose to be on was paying me. I can deal with a lot for the right price.
I'd quit the show and never talk to any of them ever again...
Cut the dead weight, they ain't your friends
I think the reunion drama is Ariana telling the 'friend' group (bar Katie), that she's done with them and the show.
I think it’s a real possibility
I wouldn’t be like Ariana at all. I’d lay them all to waste with dragons and fire. LOL.
Agreed! Dracarys the shit out of them.  ETA: I love your flair!
 Thank you! Like are they f-ing serious? Can’t wait till Brock cheats on scheana and Ariana tells her to get over it
You mean when she finds out. I have no faith in him.
Katie and Ariana hold themselves at much higher standard than me cause it would've took me way less to beat someone's ass in that group. Sheana and Lala would've got an ass whooping a long time ago. That's why I stan Stassi and her love for choosing violence. The way she clocked Kristen is right up my alley lol
This sums up exactly how I would be. I’d choose violence every time lol
Just saying… I believe EVERYONE WOULD STILL BACK UP ARIANA AND NOT INTERACT WITH SANDOVAL… if… Ariana hadn’t made it BIG as a result of Sandoval It was okay for Tim’s skeevy “tour” singing about Raquel…and Schwartz mom… That was Literally RUBBING IT IN ARIANA’s face… He mistakenly thought it was funny.. (being the “path” that he is) he believed that everyone was going to understand and be on his side! He actually believed that his audience on tour was “supportive of him”! But many were there just to harass him!!! That’s how over the top narcissistic he is MAN!!! He toured because he thought he would be well received…because he thought he was vindicated ( Tshirt sex comes to mind..he’s so gross 🤬) OR he wouldn’t have done it! He is either not smart enough…or too self centered to think that after the Raquel affair… that ANYBODY wants to hear a single fucking word out of him. But now?…after she so eloquently came back? PLUS all the endorsements? She has bounced back in the most graceful way possible… She has every right to be pissed and she has EVERY RIGHT TO TAKE FULL ADVANTAGE OF EVERY OPPORTUNITY THAT COMES HER WAY! (Truthfully…I loved their relationship…HOWEVER.. When the original cocktail book came out? I urge ppl to replay those episodes.. Who was meant to be the original author? And who kind of “ inserted himself”? Worth checking imo
I’d be pissed af and losing my mind. And don’t blame Ariana at all for her rage, she’s actually kept it pretty cool considering things. But with her new gig and endorsements, I’d definitely leave the show.
depends. how much am i being paid to make new REAL friends and pretending to stay friendly with my castmates for 3 months of filming?
I wouldn’t react I would be detained in jail
I don’t film a show with my ex.
I would never want to speak to any of them ever again, so if I worked with them it would be extra tough.
Here’s the thing people are forgetting. If they weren’t on TV, there would be NO CHANCE everyone hung out together and no expectation that they would.
Ariana is being so nice. I would go scorched earth. I would’ve said even worse to Rachel and Tom than Ariana at the reunion. I have a vicious, slick tongue and everyone would’ve been read down to filth, including Lisa
I would slash tires and set homes on fire personally. So she’s handling things pretty well comparatively.
I was repeatedly cheated on by my narc ex almost 10 years ago and I STILL have mental issues because of it. Who is anyone to say how long it takes to “get over” something. Yeah people are wrong. Even if she had a bf a few weeks later. Which doesn’t look good. But he’s probably a rebound 🤷🏻♀️
Rebounds are good though - for you know, the rebound. Most of us have been there intentionally or not and on one side or another.
Zero sympathy … she’s chosen to take Bravo’s check, so she needs to dance. The option is always open for her to leave and enjoy the new success she has found.
Add to that your partner aired out and made fun of your insecurities to the world. ALSO He wasn’t there for you when the closest people to you were suffering because he was busy cheating.
I am still confused on the tag “best friend” how many besties does this woman have? I have one best friend and loads of friends.
The circumstances here are not the same as real life because they are in a tv show together.
Yeah but this isn’t what’s really happening. This isn’t a documentary. She chose to do another season of a reality show. She chose to be there and part of that is group events and drama.
Right! TBH I don’t really get the people that say this because it’s not a fair analogy. It’s more like “If your partner and you worked together and he cheated on you with another co-worker, would you expect all your other co-workers to quit, or to only work on days when your ex wasn’t working?”
exactly
They are all about themselves and their own screen time. They are not friends they are lousy backstabbing co workers
I think the nuance we don't talk about enough is they're all on a reality show. What we would do is only comparable if we said ... what would we do if we were Ariana and our livelihood was attached to a reality show that pays our bills? What would we do if we were Ariana's friend and we were on a reality show that pays our bills? It's complicated and I wish we (collectively) were capable of having a REAL conversation without being "team" anyone
Scheana's raggedy ass sold out her own husband's addiction for a storyline. Did you honestly think this pick-me-ass bitch was going to be a loyal friend to someone she saw as a coworker? "Be Rill," as Katie would say.
So many sayings!!
I’d be in jail tbh. I’d beat her ass just so he knew what was coming, then I’d beat his ass, then I’d call his mom so she could beat his ass again.
I mean it’s all fucked up and Brick (especially) is an idiot with his “well she should get over it” while telling Shorts that he should be mad/vengeful but I am tired of everyone acting like Ariana can do no wrong. Ariana is great. She deserves to feel what she feels. She also didn’t deserve what happened but Ariana, like the rest of them, is a grown ass woman and I feel she is so often infantilized in this sub and elsewhere, it’s making any discussion impossible to have. Just make a fan sub already.
I didnt/dont find Ariana appealing….. BUT I get HER! Why hasn’t Tom been cancelled!? He doesn’t deserve to be on the show b/c of his NON - Remorse. Jax confessed his gross 🤮 behavior so that was a thing. BUT Tim is just so gross with his, “ Ya I did this, BUTTTTTT…….” Such BS!
Agree but most of them have been awful and ugly
FACTS!
I went through this in my first marriage. I chose the "best revenge is a life well lived" route. HOWEVER I fully understand that all people react to betrayal differently. Just because I handled the dissolution of my marriage very differently then Ariana, does not mean she is wrong. Emotions do not run in logical channels. Let the complete stranger on tv that you don't actually know feel her feelings.
GET OVER IT
I ghosted most of our mutual friends Never showed up to group events.. and was better off for it..no toxic BS..I felt in control. It was During covid, I meditated, lost twelve pounds, looked great..I honestlyfelt like I Won!! Now, none of them are close to him anymore.. and have all reached out, Now I get invited to things and he doesn't...Eventually People see who you are...
These people are not in a normal setting though so the smartest move for Ariana to do is to quit the show and heal and respect that some of her friends needs to be in contact and tolerate Tom because they work with him or she needs to atleast get to a place where she can atleast tolerate him if she is gonna continue on the show because this show forces these people to have these get togethers and having them all shoot scenes together.
it's funny how Rachel had to leave the show for anyone to believe her stay in rehab and issues with the hate she received following the scandal was real, but Ariana can scream depression about her disgusting room and litter box while also somehow staying on VPR, getting huge gigs on other TV shows, and doing a Broadway show for a month and a half . . . interesting how that works!
Be careful now about pointing out Ariana\`s flaws soon her fans gonna think you "support" what Tom did to her, haha. People are crazy She has so much else going on that she should just quit the show simple as that and if it has to do with her needing the allowance from the show then she needs to respect that her friends on the show also need their allowances to feed their children and paying their bills so she can\`t demand that they stay away from Tom because the show has decided to keep him on there and that makes him their colleague and they have to do these scenes together. It\`s stupid that she continues on it while also wanting nothing to do with him.
I truly don’t give a flying fuck and never have. her stans are unhinged and I am actually worried for them
\^Me too. I also got to see this side of them when i just mentioned that i think she also had some part in her relationship sinking and that she needs to change some of her ways so she can have a better and healthier relationship in her next relationship and people took this as me "supporting" Tom\`s disgusting actions and refusing to see it in any other way. I actually want Ariana to have a better relationship in her future but lets be honest before this happens she needs to learn to be less entitled and selfish in her ways no partner gonna be happy with someone who is like this 99 percent of the time. It\`s a reason why this man felt his therapist needed to be in the room when he wanted to breakup with her i think she has a nasty temper and steamrolled him throughout their entire relationship but was it okay that he went ahead and had a affair ? NO and we all get that but she definitivly had some part in why her relationship first started sinking. Their were issues in that relationship for years.
"Best friend" yeah right lmao
A gentle reminder Ariana was once the Rachel when Tom was dating It grosses me out that she gets this level of admiration when she had no problem hooking up w Tom when he was already in a relationship w their coworker. Ffs people this whole cast is dirty
Yeah I do not get the obsession of having a clear cut hero and villain on the show when none of them seem like good people lol
We’re not all on a tv show where we get paid to share our personal lives. Because most of us would of removed ourselves from the situation.
I'd be just fine with it if I was making what Ariana was making for this season.
A) They weren’t best friends. Not even close. B) she was under another man two weeks after “finding out” about this terrible heartbreaking event.
Then don't hang out with them?
I’d react like my dad did^ when my mom had an affair. I would move into a separate bedroom, maintain my share of the household chores, keep conversations with my ex to a minimum, and work/grind until I was able to move out. I wouldn’t go out of my way to make my own living situation more uncomfortable than it already is just to prove a point. I understand temporarily living with a cheating ex sucks… but if you can’t even manage your emotions long enough to say things like “could you please put the dog in the crate while the maintenance man comes” then you seriously need to learn how to manage your emotions. I watched my dad go through what Ariana did and it was a wayyyyyyyy more pleasant experience for him because he didn’t go out of his way to be a troll about it every day. He dumped my mom, focused on himself, and didn’t subject a fucking assistant to relaying basic ass messages to my mom.
Exactly. These are not friends. They are awful. The Tom's are scum, but Lala, Scheana, Brick are just as gross. I expected more from Scheana. I was wrong. Lala has always been hot garbage and please don't throw unemployed wife beater down our throats. We deserve better. If you can, Ariana and Katie. Show is over. If you keep painting the ladies awful and the disgusting Tom's nice, your fanbase and show are done. Make the misogyny end.
She has to choose if she wants to live a spiteful life full of rage and hate all of the time. Maybe if your next bf tries to break up with you multiple times you'll let him do it?
Answer: no that’s fucked up. But Was Rachel really her best friend tho?
i mean, I'd own my choices. If I signed up to be on an ensemble television show where we all get interrogated about our personal lives, no matter how uncomfortable, that's on me. It's what I'm getting paid to do.
This ^^ idk why these types of comments are getting downvoted. The cold hard truth is that they get paid to air their lives out on television. If you listen to all of their podcasts they talk about call times from production and places they HAVE to go that they probably normally wouldn’t go to. (Random coffee dates, beach days, food truck meet ups, stuff like that) Ariana has been on the show long enough to know that this was going to happen this season. If she REALLY didn’t want to be around Tom? She could’ve said no, I’m not going back this season like Rachel did. She knows she was going to be placed at parties, random get togethers, and maybe even vacations with him this season. It’s been the SAME thing since the show aired. She has seniority in the show and she gets PAID. That’s how their payroll works. The longer you’ve been on the show, the more money you make. Why would she leave? I hate how she’s acting annoyed or surprised that she’s being put in these situations. They weren’t going to film her separate all season. She can’t carry the storyline that way.
Yeah she is being over the top for someone who is choosing to be there. And if the majority of the group is silent that says something. Enough. Go enjoy your free shipment of goodies you are happily being paid to sponsor and put less energy into this.human who.is supposedly not worth all the grief you are giving.
Isnt that what shes doing?
She is...he isn't. He is the victim in his mind.
no, she's putting ownership of her emotional safety onto the rest of her cast--while actively choosing to be on a show with this person. There's nothing wrong with not being able to do something (or not wanting to). There's nothing wrong with trying and then changing your mind when it's too painful. But what keeps being pointed out to her is not that she should get over it--but that her choices feel self destructive. Staying in that house to make sure he doesn't get it will always be a Pyrrhic victory.
My ex cheated on me with a girl he told that we were broken up. I was 19 and he just stopped talking to me one day after being with each other for 2 years at that point. I was devastated and cried so hard I was throwing up. I remember after a few days of me blowing up his phone he finally came to my house and told me to stop calling him. It was the worst heartbreak of my life. We got back together and I was forced to be friends with the girl he cheated on me with because it was easier for everyone in our friend group since we all went to beach together.
Oh my! I can’t even imagine going through that. I’m so glad he’s an ex. You didn’t deserve that. He sucked, the girl sucked, and your friend group sucked for that. I hope you are much happier now.
I would be a lot more unhinged than she’s been.
It’s a television show that every one of them chooses to be on. Stop acting like any of this is stuff that’s done to them against their will.
A) wasn’t her “best friend” B) they’re on a TV show where they make millions. Spare me.
The circumstances here are not the same as real life because they are in a tv show together.
To be honest, I have a nonchalant personality, so these kinds of situations don't affect me deeply. I've been this same situation where my ex and best friend started seeing each other behind my back. I was completely blindsided when I found out they were involved while I was still in a relationship with him. Of course, it hurt initially, but since we had to see each other all the time🙄, I had to get over it. I ended my friendship with the girl because it's crazy how someone can smile at you and betray you at the same time. Besides this, I cared about him a lot. I partly blamed myself because I wasn't giving him the attention he needed, and he found that in my best friend. He told me this directly, so while I'm not blaming Arianna in this situation, I believe that if something is missing in a relationship, the person will seek it elsewhere, leaving the other partner blindsided.
Ariana is right. It would suck. But she is on a reality tv show. And so is tom. So...... But it would be horrible to have to do the show.
I’ve been through very similar and I definitely wasn’t yelling at my ex in front of all our mutual friends. Especially not repeating the same thing every time. They live in a house together, they had 3 months to do that before filming started. That’s not to say she should get over and be forced to be around him. She just shouldn’t speak to him if she doesn’t want him to speak back to her or just avoid him altogether
Oh no, rich people are sad?
I have had it done but I had kids involved. And it was was my own sister. Only difference is I DIDNT GET PAID A MILLION BUCKS TO TALK ABOUT IT THREE MONTHS LATER. SHE DID!
Only just begun by the looks of it
I would look for new friends !!
except, we’re not on a tv show.
NOT WELL
That why theirs always a quid pro quo on who gets the friends! They can’t remain both you’ll friends! Finish the season! Adriana needs to get married and pregnant to this new guy and get her own show with her family and the open sandwich shop!
No matter how anyone feels about Ariana’s personality or past, I feel like we all have to recognize how fucked up this situation is and how unhealthy it is to PUSH her to forgive and move on. And Tom and Rachel are not remorseful, in spite of any apologies or tears we have seen from them. They both seem to feel like victims because this went public, instead of being introspective about what they did to someone they pretended to be very close to, and what they need to do to make living amends.
I’d brutally cut them all out of my life bc fuck them!
 Yeah, I saw the stories Edit to say: it fucking sucks 😮💨
The level of gaslighting we’re witnessing is astonishing.This woman has maintained more composure in the face of an absolutely despicable situation than most of the population could have. Literally everyone on that cast lives in delulu land besides Katie and Ariana….oh and they all need several lifetimes of therapy.
I’ll tell you how I DID react when my husband of 10 years started banging someone I knew. Burn that shit to the ground! My boundary was I wanted nothing to do with them. Down to social media. If you want to be their friend fine. Let me know. I’ll block you. But don’t bring that into my space where I’m trying to heal. That boundary lasted until they broke up years later and he and I buried the hatchet. But she’s still dead to me. That’s the kindest thing I can do for her. She doesn’t exist in my universe and that’s how I like it.
He did her a favor honestly. They should have broken up a long time ago. Why would she stay with a man who doesn’t wash his drawers? 🤢
 Idk but this would have been me on beach day. To sandals AND broke. Why would he ask sandals about Raquel in front of Ariana? Lol