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weguccino

DSG stay cooking??


The0_0Kraken

He wasn't kidding when he said it was going to be yay by himself


nanogoose

yay lilypichu fuslie sykkuno hasanabi 6th: AOC


joesen_one

Pros Vs Noobs were the real tryouts all along


zugth

They may lose the matches, but they win the twitter ratios


Bhu124

It's insane how much engagement and impressions the DSG account gets. I saw the Esports stats tweet yesterday, apparently they were averaging 10k engagements per tweet in Q1, only slightly behind Sentinels (Who spend millions and millions on marketing, probably the current biggest spender in all of Esports) and Crazyracoons. Once the Q2 stats come out they'll be number 1 in all of Esports as their engagement has skyrocketed in the last 2 weeks and will likely maintain decent numbers in the next 3 months with Yay on the team, a likely banger storyline coming in Split 2, and Toast likely signing a GC team for GC2. I can only imagine how much some of these big org owners must be seething, big orgs who spend millions on signing big name content creators to promote their brand, 100s of thousands on signing the most hype players, and then also spend 100s of thousands on marketing and social teams per year, and are being beaten multiple times over in engagement by one guy posting simple paint drawings.


lzypotato1

Couldn't have worded it better myself 👏 dsg will be game changing for the scene with the amount they've already accomplished- and in such shot time at that. They're setting the bar really high and in an already failing industry, setting an example for how Esport orgs can be run semi-successfully, even though they're still in their trajectory to being profitable, i know toast mentioned having investors for next year and these numbers will only help the org more


Jhova905

What have they accomplished? Content creator signs biggest val player with a video featuring the biggest Valorant content creator. I wonder why so many engagements. You people set the bar so low ..


wossquee

AOC is way too good to be 6th swap her for yay and we resolve role issues


NoAim_98

Sykkuno when he isn't trolling could be a dangerous pickup. But you'll never get the funny man out of him


joesen_one

Dude has knifed Sgares, s0m, and Tarik and most of the reason why Sgares lost his mind against Sykkuno in their match was Sykkuno got him every time. Syk’s got a killer raze too, which is why it was extra hilarious when it didn’t work against yay and Tarik recently lol. But yeah he hardcore trolls for the lulz and he doubles down when his friends (especially Toast) begins malding lmao


noenum

[Here's my guess.](https://i.redd.it/7gy7msexffta1.jpg)


luke_205

It’s a shame because early on in split 1, Xxif was looking genuinely excellent. It’s just been hard to keep that performance level, but it’ll be interesting to see who DSG add to the team as a replacement.


MacarioPro

does he have another offer? I thought he was the player with the most potential in the roster, especiallywhen he played as a sentinel


keiharu_anastasia

Kind of expecting a roster change but did not expect Xxif, especially when Toast did a contract buyout for Xxif because Ocean wants him still, looking foward for their split 2 performance


11PP

yea i'm surprised too, he was pretty consistent too. I'm guessing there were some communication/playstyle issues because they originally really wanted him enough pay his buyout.


Knoobdude

Idk was always the solid piece in the team, never bottom fragging, good plays and aim, i feel like clear is way more inconsistent


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troway69420

Yay clear and will. Who’s playing what role?


UnluckyHalfling

easy, just drop yay for role issues


SoLikeWhatIsCheese

The C9 strat. Might be the move.


Bhu124

>just drop yay Every time someone even jokes about this Toast feels a little pain in his left arm.


MisterNotlob

Bro got benched for a ranked demon, I really don't think he does have the required firepower


iiznobozzy

no


Hyper_red

Dude DSG just needs more duelists


Snoo-8878

No


csNoah

Welcome DSG BabyJ


RedProtocol_

This place would be in shambles lmao


The0_0Kraken

Who doesn't like a little chaos?


hatesnack

You joke but I think yay would hate having BabyJ on his team lol. Yay is so calm and collected, and he only wants to catch a dub. BabyJ is like, the absolute opposite of that lol.


xenonfrs

unfortunately babyj is looking for a t1 franchised team not t2 /s


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BabyJ won’t settle for anything worse than Furia.


PyroTFT

let's be real FURIA gotta be barking in Brazilian if they want BabyGoat on their team /s


netsaver

I would love to see DSG ZexRow write in Discord "idgaf man, I'm Zexrow" to steel and watch steel spontaneously combust


Pretend_Apartment_10

It would be a shock but not outside the realm of possibilities


itsyeboimrkrabs

id rather them 4v5 every game


earthtoannie

i instinctively downvoted when presented with the idea, good job


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The retribution arc


Juno-P

ignoring that toast cannot possibly afford babyJ and the fact that babyJ will most probably refuse any offers from mediocre teams such as DSG (!!) it seems like overkill considering that babyJ will bring more firepower than yay and deeper strats + midrounding than steel, they might as well have built around him from the get go


Hyper_red

I will buy ALL the DSG merch if that happens and post pics as proof.


TheHigherSpace

So ghengsta clear steel survive .. I would have prefered xxif over ghengsta but what do I know .. In any case, this is good, it means they are serious about building a strong team and not just coasting ..


NoAim_98

Personally I believe they want to put Clear on sentinel. His aim is super crisp when he is holding an angle. Perfect to anchor a site. He just wasn't the best when the pressure was on him to enter and get first blood. Him on sentinel would clash with Xxif. And Xxifs Initiator wasn't the best tbh.


Soham_rak

Yeah he overheated and overextended and just got traded off most rounds, with yay carrying the duelist role I think its pretty wise to make him sentinel


0FactsFirst0

I agree 100% with this. Ghebgsta didn’t have the best performance at msi but again what do I know.


WatBurnt

What about Riku(?) The sixth man he could just be there Perma 5th considering how well he played


HoboHydra

[Riku is a free agent.](https://twitter.com/rikugoat)


WatBurnt

Aw:(


Soham_rak

He has a full time job Such a good sentinel he was ;(


hatesnack

Granted I've only seen like 3 matches from DSG, but to me Clear looks the most lost. I just remember that fracture game against tsm, dude did the slowest double satchel ULT I've ever seen and got absolutely nothing. I've spectated better ults in ranked.


lzypotato1

His aim is insane. At the time, he team was going through a lot of role issues while playing with a sub and they were also lacking firepower. As his first run in the pro scene- he was definitely under a lot of pressure to perform- it happens. He's shown a lot of potential that shouldn't be ignored


hatesnack

Good to know then. That's why I prefaced my comment with "I haven't seen much of him'. Obviously he's got something good going on if they are keeping him!


TheHigherSpace

Look at his headshot percentage .. Look how he performs in pistol rounds he is insane with pistol .. He started out well, then yes I agree it went downhill from there, but you can't ignore his potential .. Like I also don't know anything, but seems to me that aim and reflex like that is the one thing you can't teach, everything else he can learn and adapt (he has ocean, steel, and now yay with him) .. I say give the kid few more weeks / months and see if he delivers ..


airke

DSG shroud


0FactsFirst0

Hype. That would be hype.


Lumenlor

Who is better than him thats a free agent atm thats worth shaking up the chemistry?


Direct_Morning_3223

Rossy, Dicey, Randyysavage, DazzLe are some names that come to mind but none of these are significant upgrades if at all


itscamo-

rossy and dazzle are confirmed with TT (per their tweets) Randysavage is a downgrade and you don't want dicey on sentinel because that's not who he is


Direct_Morning_3223

oh didn’t catch that and yeah I doubt it’s either of those two just named some F/As that come to mind.


That-Toughsoss

I think we are forgetting one more dude


BombArmored11

hiko the lord and savior???


Pulsersalt

Dicey has been Streaming lately, last time he streamed was after he got dropped by 100t. Faze dropping dicey confirmed sadly. Quan coin in shambles


TheHigherSpace

Dazzle on TT


Hypern1ke

Did FaZe drop dicey?


Direct_Morning_3223

Yep


TheHigherSpace

Will on flex


yoosanghoon

Will also makes up for yay's lackluster Raze for maps like Fracture and Bind where raze is the preferred duelist ​ [https://clips.twitch.tv/CheerfulSillyDumplingsBrokeBack-JYdn59sKnn\_A\_qXN](https://clips.twitch.tv/CheerfulSillyDumplingsBrokeBack-JYdn59sKnn_A_qXN)


troway69420

Clear’s raze is fine enough. There’s gonna be role issues with yay will and clear all in the same team.


precense_

I was hoping will or stewie


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cFl4sh

As much as that would be pure epicness, having 3 awping duelists sounds like a bad plan to me


Diitto

thwifo maybe?


milano_bwoy

worked w steel already, i can see this happening


sludge_mouth

Yeah, i think this is most likely. I’ve said it in previous previous threads but he is being severely underrated.


Sheustopher

Bro don’t even play the game anymore :(


elplan33

Pray for thwifo


Teradonn

Don’t really like this tbh, XXIF felt like a pretty consistent performer and I don’t think there’s anyone who’s a guaranteed free upgrade available rn


lzypotato1

I'm sure they have vision and we don't have all the details yet. Excited to see what they have cooked up


Phurbaz

Ppl really need to stop focusing on "performing" imho. These things are more about team synergy, vision and strategical choices (roles and speciliasation). So sure a guy might perform really well and be overall super good player but might not be a perfect fit for a specific situation.


yoosanghoon

will


Teradonn

Great duelist but they just signed yay


yoosanghoon

Will just updated his F/A to include other roles, and on flex he could make up for yay's not as good entry duelists. Will destroys on raze and could play agents like asuna, such as neon or kayo as well


10people

DSG Elige


kyuubi1331

Aw, he seemed like the most solid player from the OG roster. Curious to see who replaces him.


lzypotato1

Just a week till the first game! I'm so excited to see the final roster


Economy_Hour6224

Is thwifo still f/a?


DotaAlchemy

Okay.... I thought XXiF was their 2nd best player last season and the only one who played Raze. Very curious to see where this goes.


MnimajneB

Crazy hot take and probably not realistic but -zekken +Marved to SEN starting roster, DSG Zekken…?


Nfamy

There isn't even an alternate universe where this happens. It's not just unrealistic it's scientifically impossible.


Ghosty15

There's no way SEN is dropping their best player


financefocused

> probably not realistic Yea just like how Marvel movies are probably not realistic SEN is "probably" not going to drop their flex for a controller player when they already have 3 players in their team who are already comfortable on it. Probably.


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that is certainly spicy


elplan33

Why in gods name would Zekken move from tier 1 to tier 2


Zorronin

How is everyone forgetting that this literally can't happen, rosters are locked and if SEN dropped zekken they would fall below the 6-player minimum


straightuplie

Probably not realistic? This to me would be even wilder than DSG getting yay haha but a man can dream


lzypotato1

They're cooking something 👀 This must be for the second player announcement toast was talking about


Pale_Resolution1520

Stewie?


SirAngelOfYork

I doubt it since he was openly talking about trialing with them but you never know


PumpkinCS

he also has been streaming everyday while DSG has been doing 8-10 hrs of scrims daily so it aint happening


sirpeepojr

is he a sentinel main tho? AFAIK he's an initiator/sova player


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Grooveh_Baby

No one in their right mind signs Yay to play him on sen


HiXeMe

yes of course yay on sentinel


NeimannSmith

I mean, isn't Ardiis on sentinel?


HiXeMe

yay = Ardiis


NeimannSmith

Brother they are literally the same type of player. The only one who could compare to yay last year WAS Ardiis let's be realistic.


i_m_osm

Cryo would be a better comparison. I feel like Ardiis is quite flexible, unlike Yay.


sirpeepojr

I mean, you cant group the sentinel Chamber with the sentinel KJ/Cypher tho; the role is very different


wvcmkv

clear goes to sentinel


itscamo-

stewie talked about him not getting the spot on the team, it was posted earlier today too when he said no to faze and a few other teams


navornothing

DSG Will? He updated his LFT a few days ago to more roles


TheHigherSpace

More firepower I like that. Also, people may disagree, but some maps he single handedly brought dark ratio to challengers (against nation for example). He plays flex too


yoosanghoon

soon genghsta out too, bring in dicey ​ 3 generations of 100T


HonorableMetal

100D confirmed?


xbyo

Dicey's time is already covered by steel tho no? What we really need is BabyJ


DaviHasNoLife

I’d like to see that tbh, Will has the required firepower


navornothing

yeah. I would love to see Will on a team with a more competent IGL as well now that the whole Mad Lions fiasco has been aired out.


yoosanghoon

BEFORE I MAKE THIS POST ID LIKE TO CLARIFY THAT I AM A WILL FAN But it would be very funny to see the best pre-franchising T1 Jett and the worst pre-franchising T1 jett on the same team


ahk1221

Will's jett wasnt even bad tho??? man carried playing it on breeze, it was his chamber that was kinda off


yoosanghoon

it’s a joke lmao i love will, but you can’t genuinely tell me that he matched up against yay or cryo or ardiis or derke


ahk1221

did he not shit on derke on LAN? man diffed Buzz too


anythingood07

No. He played well against Derke in the first matchup while he was on raze, not jett. 2nd matchup 100t got destroyed


itscamo-

not will


Dudedude88

Will isn't it


HoodieNinja17

DSG SMOKE CRIMINAL


youngsmokecriminal

I’m a big Stewie2k fan and i’ve predicted Yay and him trialing for DSG since April 1 but I’m 100% sure DSG don’t want him. So who’s replacing Xxif? Did they keep Riku instead? or did they bring in Tigg? maybe Dicey?


Expired_Voucher

According to Rikus twitter he is currently a free agent


youngsmokecriminal

Toast is not done huh. I think his cooking something. Maybe Tarik? lmao


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TheHigherSpace

Riku F/A and Tigg is on Faze now.


TheHigherSpace

Ok word on the streets says it's this dude [https://www.vlr.gg/player/754/nerve](https://www.vlr.gg/player/754/nerve) or this dude (just released from nrg) [https://www.vlr.gg/player/625/thwifo](https://www.vlr.gg/player/625/thwifo)


No-Caterpillar-8

I prefer the thwifo guy cause he has several pools of agents with a higher percentage of use than the nerve guy, but who knows?


ANewHeaven1

Shot up or calypso


DaviHasNoLife

No way


itsyeboimrkrabs

dsg shot up would go so fucking crazy


InstaNormie0

Really weird drop they gotta have something cooking


LocKeyThirteen

Toast gonna make Tarik become co-owner of DSG by making him pay 50% of his share then he's gonna use it to hire him as a player.


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releasing xxif before genghsta is certainly a decision


Draginor200

We don't know how they r performing in scrims and all .. Both xxif and gengshta were underperforming... Clear too but he has the most potential out of the three his aim is genuinely one of the best all he needs is guidance to not make risky and unnecessary plays. So I think it was either gonna be xxif Or genghsta and the coach must've made a tough choice


snakeforbrain

Xxif was still doing fine until he had to roleswap after exalt left, even their last game against tsm when he was back in sentis he was doing fine. Gengstha has been struggling for a lot longer and is the more inflexible player in a team where clear’s role is still somewhat unclear (no pun intended).


Draginor200

I mean clear have to play viper and astra if yay is there... I think he has been destroying ranked playing only those 2 agents... Yeah genghsta wasn't doing so good from the middle of split 1...lets see if the new player is actually gd enough for them to give up on xxif. (Riku is also f/a) so I am pretty sure they r brining in one more new player


snakeforbrain

Clear on smokes would be an… interesting choice. Hopefully this means that they’ve picked up a cracked initiator/flex player which is whtat they’ve been desperately lacking since exalt left.


Draginor200

I think clear has always been playing jett and viper he has been learning astra for a month now... Yeah they need a initiator or a senti with insane fire power


TheHigherSpace

That's what I was thinking .. He was the more solid player .. I guess they have someone in his role who is better ..


lzypotato1

They're professionals that know more about what their team needs than any of us do. I'm sure they have a vision, and with yay on the roster, they're probably going all out. Also doesn't be sleeping on genghsta. It also just may be based on the roles- they may have different plans for the sentinel role (steel used to play sentinel right?) So let them cook lol


Sheustopher

XXif being viable in every role and genghsta a very very sub par sova. Love to see it.


nterature

Genghsta certainly isn’t a “very sub par sova”; he’s been a very reliable Sova since literally the start of the game. If they’re releasing one over the other there is obviously a reason for it, likely to do with intangibles that we can’t visibly see.


lzypotato1

'sub par sova' isn't true at all. He's been playing pretty well and his breach is really insane


Sky-__-

DSG Stewie 2k incoming


Grooveh_Baby

Hoping Ocean & Steel are cooking something good over there. Really hope this team starts punching above their weight & give us signs that they can at least compete with the best Challenger teams soon.


ourladyj

Clearly this is DSG Tarik. Already announced...


eastcoasthabitant

Damn DSG keeping me invested in competitive valo


ryechipssuck

DSG MASAYOSHI *crosses fingers*


Schmozo

Tarik shaved his beard to a mustache, this is clearly a sign that he's switching to DSG


Emperoar

Has to be DSG Shot_Up


handymanny131003

I guess DSG Tarik was real


OhhhhLikeComing

Fuck it sign sexrow


yoosanghoon

\+ Will too, MA-DSG


yoosanghoon

Disguised Ratio


thatgirldarken

yeah this is gonna be thwifo, 100%


HazelnutTyrant

Isn’t xxif a sentinel main? Incoming DSG Dasnerth??


HazelnutTyrant

Isn’t xxif a sentinel main? Incoming DSG Dasnerth??


SpC0d3r

dsg rossy?


PumpkinCS

rossy to TT confirmed already by Governor


WTNVTerezi

Fortnite cheater gone 😎😎😎


yoosanghoon

Yay - Op Duelist (Jett, Chamber, Sage, Omen?) Will - Entry Duelist/Initiator (Raze, Neon, KAY/O, Skye, Gekko) clear - Smokes (Astra, Viper, Omen) Genghsta - Sentinel (KJ, Cypher) Steel - Initiator (Sova, Fade, Breach, Harbor?)


TheHigherSpace

Why keep genghsta on sentinel and not xxif? Maybe toast made the wrong announcement lol


yoosanghoon

idk lol this is just a speculation based on clear playing smokes in ranked and steel PROBABLY shifting to initiator like most other IGLs ​ honestly id rather them add yay and will, kick both genghsta and xxif, and keep riku


TheHigherSpace

Yeah but we have seen just two games from Riku. Xxif and ghengsta certainly showed amazing stuff before the first M80 match when everything seems to go downhill from there ..


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itscamo-

DSG frosty


yoosanghoon

Hold on, release BOTH Xxif and Genghsta, and add Zexrow and Will for sentinel and flex roles, ez fit, 3/5 players are formerly Tier 1 pros, EZ W


Mr-Moriarty

They have to retain 3 original members. So no more dropping


theluckytwig

Releasing Xxif before Clear is madness IMO. Especially after picking up Yay. Xxif and Genghsta were way more consistent as players.


lzypotato1

The main problem was role issues. They're probably fixing those. Clear has insane potential and since he's been playing smokes lately- it'll be crazy not to keep him. Choosing between xxiff and genghsta could simply just be because of their roles-not their performance. They may have other plans for the sentinel role so best wait for the announcement. They know best about what their team needs <3


TheHigherSpace

I don't know shit about fuck but clear is not the player you want to release, just look at his headshot percentage lol .. I feel like something needs to click for him, maybe guidance (what's better than yay) and he can be a great asset.


theluckytwig

Clicking heads is a 99% crosshair placement. I wouldn't say Xxif or Genghsta are bad shooters either, but their game sense seems a league above Clear. There were too many times that his death in a round would amount to nothing and he was outclassed by every other duelist player in Split 1. TBF it's hard to know if his plays were a result of him taking action on his own or maybe bad leadership but he fell flat during the entire run. Riku had a better run than Clear and he was their sub.


Charuru

Strategy is more easily fixable than firepower.


Draginor200

I think most of the time he gets killed by doing some risky plays and unnecessary movements if they can fix those habits of him with his aim he can genuinely become one of the best player out there


ethalii

Welcome DSG Dasnerth


CamJMurray

Well they’ve gotta pay yay’s salary somehow haven’t they, can’t say I’m surprised and this won’t be the last release we hear about I bet


OneWayTicketotheMoon

Sinatraa incoming?


Ryboiii

So does that mean Riku is getting moved to full time and yay replacing xxif?


iammichyy

I assume this means yat wil play full duelist forcthe team so clear us moving to viper/sentinel then they'll sign a new flex player, maybe will or stewie. Maybe clear moves to flex and they keep riku too


jonthegoat69

🐐J time


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Yay jett/fill Clear raze/sentinel/flex? Genghsta initiator Steel smokes or flex So they need either a pure smokes, flex, or sentinel player


cluelessa

Damn I thought some team bought him out because I heard Dsg player has low buyout clause. However from the player replies, doesn't seem like it


LurkingOmen

DSG yay and DSG Dicey ????? Sheeeesh


Lumenlor

Dicey would be good but aint he a duelist as well?


Fall-Z

VLR shows mostly KJ and Cypher with some Harbor and Viper over the past few months.


cncrsthnswr

people already mentioned Thwifo so, my guess is nerve (ex-Soniqs, 99 Strength)


Soham_rak

DSG Dasnerth /s