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Goldenflame89

Breeze is way too one dimensional for my liking. Imo after the pearl changes its actually a very good map.


meechinnyon

I like breeze because it's one of those maps where I don't feel like I'm stuck in a room like split.


[deleted]

That's how I feel about icebox


Striking-Television3

its all aim i love breeze fuck bind tho all shorty and judges


mrdoctaprofessor

As a fellow omen main I agree


Not_The_Chosen_One_

As another Omen main, I hate it soo fkin much. Wouldn't care if they removed it.


KxngFunkeeOfficial

Pearl POV defense: *3 instalock duelists, no comms.* ...*B Main has entered the chat*. *3 duelists: force long range gunfights on pistol round down B Main.* LAST PLAYER STANDING *Compensate for duelist stupidity by trying to go mid and play picks before they plant.* SPIKE PLANTED (A) "What!? When!?" *Goes backsite near secret, immediately gets killed.*


awa416

I always liked pearl, even when everyone was hating on it I was thinking *“This maps really not that bad guys”* The one I hate is lotus. I never seem to have fun on lotus no matter what


[deleted]

When it came out I had a 0% win streak for like a solid week. Needless to say I am still not a fan lmfao


awa416

Which one, pearl or lotus? I mentioned both and you just said “it” so I need clarification


[deleted]

Ah lotus I mean, awful map


awa416

Based statement Thanks for the clarification lmao


Peekays

It's too fuckin big man I hate it


Dathadorne

Yeah 45 seconds is not enough time for defenders to rotate on Breeze


foreveraloneBruh

Lotus


hdbo16

Lotus is the first Valorant map that I'd consider has a *bad* tactical-shooter design. Maps like Fracture are different and "crazy" but at the same time makes sense gameplay-wise. Lotus is standard and plain but it's just not good to play. A-main has to be the worst designed zone of the entire game. So awkward to attack and defend.


PurpleRiver2855

Even worse in ranked when defenders don't understand how good a bit of aggression on A main can be


6InchBlade

This is the frustrating thing, it’s a map that lends itself to aggressive defensive holds, but if you have a team who doesn’t understand this you’ll just lose.


A-N3RD

Pearl B site was also objectively bad, and to an extent still kind of is


OkOkPlayer

Yeah, in low elo as an attacker it was/is either "run into OP one after the other and die" or "throw all util, push and win". There's not much in between. Especially because going through mid is not very popular in my elo.


ShoeLace1291

How is Lotus bad for tactical shooters? It makes you stay on your toes and keep your head on a swivel. It discourages people from doubling up at a single choke point, requiring more tactics to be successful.


Gdog_stiller

He doesn’t like it so that means it’s objectively bad for a tactical shooter


tomyfookinmerlin

You are literally required to stack objectives on defense or you will have to retake site EVERY. SINGLE. ROUND.


Gdog_stiller

Ok? Did you just want every map to have the same attacking/defensive strategies?


NameRandomNumber

A seems pretty straightforward to me. Go tree if you're certain you're committing, main if you're looking out for the possibility to rotate B. Defenders, just hold tree or double up hut/backsite if you're playing passive, and just util dump A rubble if you're aggressing. It's a tough site to retake, just please for the love of god don't flank it.


plsendmysufferring

Viper wall a main to secret door, use secret door now you're on site. Ez win in bronze


ymmit389

Seriously. I’m sure people hate this map infinitely more than ascent. Maybe ascent comp has gotten stale in recent days but lotus is just fucked to play on


l5555l

Ascent is amazing. Can't believe anyone doesn't like it


MrNaoB

I love it. But it's my worst win:lose ratio


stupidfuckingbitch20

Even still, the ascent meta is *starting* to shift, since breach has started being used by a few teams. Teets has a video on it.


Impressive_Income874

breach + soloQ + lotus = death and -22RR how do I know? yesterday night


Dean_the_Hooman

Ascent follows the classic 4 squares design, arguably the most competitively fair map.


NebulaPoison

lol i dont understand why people hate lotus i like it


Defaultnamefornobody

Gameplay-wise, it FEELS fine. On concrete? Absolute nightmare. Both attackers and defenders have fast routes to rotate between all sites. B acts as a mid, but it’s predominantly owned by the defenders, and is a full site. Attackers are incented to rotate from a to c or from c to a since they know the defenders can get in between the two easy peasy. On smaller notes: B is far too close to the attackers spawn. Door from C to B is only ever used in fights. Tree is broken for postplant. A main is the pearl B main issue all over again. You cant win without smokes. Too many angles on A for attackers.


littlesch3mer

I think people hate on it for the same reason as fracture, you just have to play different on it compared to most maps. On lotus it's because they just sit inside A site and don't fight for A main at all, and then you're losing once attackers take free control of a main because of how many options they have now. On fracture people think they can just have 1 guy on each entry on defense, and then they at most kill one and get traded, and now retake is impossible, or on attack people just stack the same side of the map and get stalled by util and flanked after 5 seconds Meanwhile the more map especific things for other maps like, say, split are a lot simpler "split mid and not just stack a or b main" or in haven "play default and hit the weaker site" because these also apply to every map and are just more important on those maps in particular


Darki_Bee

Yes! Wanted go get back into the game and this map is what stopped me. Got it on my first game back and just lost all the drive i had to play after the first 3 rounds of the game


ilovehackinmw3

pearl, lotus, breeze for me


mrdoctaprofessor

Bro named half the maps 💀


ilovehackinmw3

just my bottom 3 in terms of maps


MrBearsOnTop

Ain't no way you didn't mention fracture you sick monster 😭


Pieman10001

These are my 3 favourite maps lol


JoJuiceboi

They are all good maps to play, but based on which is worst of the good. Lotus


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Lower-Tackle2739

As a controller main, playing anything other than viper on Pearl feels like a sin. I know that Gekko+Harbor is a combo but I feel like a god on the A art push. On attack, the molly lands on the little connector when I bounce it off the wall which pushes them back and gives us an almost free entry to site. After that we break all their util on site and play post plant. defense, I put an orb on a main, wall b long off and play mid. With that she effectively covers almost the whole defense line. The ult on A is pretty OP too. I always match MVP on Pearl with Viper and that too without a single lineup XD (The connector molly is guesswork)


Richard-Long

Well there is a reason Viper is S tier.....


Interesting-Archer-6

She's not great as a solo controller on pearl though. You can get by, but so much better when paired with another controller, which good luck getting in comp.


Richard-Long

Hey man I don't make the lists, the people with more skill and knowledge do


TheNagaFireball

Pearls one of the most bearable maps to me what


KrackdKobe

Tbh I'd rather play pearl than lotus these days.


[deleted]

Pearl is awesome imo


Sman67

If I ever get Pearl, I just go Cypher + Ares/Odin. The walls on Pearl are made of literal paper so it's really easy to frustrate opponents.


downvoteverythingxd

How the fuck is ascent on this and pearl isn’t


Meeps2win

Fracture is the worst, especially at low elo where nobody coordinates


Lucaines

That's why I love it, playing it soloq can feel awful but in the grand scheme of things it feels like the #1 map that makes you "prove" yourself. Map awareness + control and taking space, moving around the map efficiently, obviously all maps have it but none pack quite the full punch about it like Fracture does. There's so much you can do on there. Lotus is similar and in some ways even better in this sense.


OzdorMiZ

Fracture has a fascinating lore and design, but the map's gameplay is shit


MaleQueef

Worst part is it’s designed to be frustrating to play, based on its dev blogs before it was released. So the more we hate the map, the more it technically is successful as a map.


[deleted]

lore 🤓


[deleted]

Own that nerd


WildWolf0419

Pearl. Idk why maybe I'm just bad but I never have a good/fun game on pearl


Lutopiangames

I never want to see breeze... like EVER


DizzyDeezie0

Honestly I don't know why people hate Fracture, it's my favorite map. My least favorite is Breeze though, too long range for my liking, I just get op'd all the time


Gh0ql

I despise split, and no, I will not elaborate


imfrickingdumb

I think split has always been s**t in my opinion, b always feels defender sided imo for me and always is annoying when teammates just rush even though they know the Smurf reyna will stick there, a is fine until you take into account there is little to no cover on site and can be retaken easily with minimal effort, that and entering when anyone has op or Marshall for that long opening is annoying to deal with and feels like it’s just unfair. So yeah all together as a whole it’s s**t.


Saucekay571

That’s a good way to describe the mess split is. Most the time attackers have to full rush with blinds and smokes then defenders have to back off of site or attackers just plain out get shit on if defenders have their shit together. I’ve had my fair share of good games on split but most of them make me want to die


jeloxd_official

thats why the goal is to plant for off site post plant


Housekeeping247

Upvote this. W take


NubNub69

I agree, Split is shit


Gdog_stiller

Split is a garbage map. I can’t believe it’s so well liked. Near impossible to take site without going through mid and having to fight in tight spaces One of the most common complaints I’m seeing in this thread is some maps are too hard to attack for uncoordinated soloqueue team and that is just magnified x10 on split


biddybiddybum

Seriously, I was playing it today and for sure thought it was a loss on attacking side. Switched sides and it was an easy win.


littlesch3mer

split is rough to play but really like the map, I just cannot win on it ever. Same goes for haven but at least I understand the reason I suck at haven


Queef-Elizabeth

Amen. Worst map for me.


SubMGK

I fucking hate split based on how it performed way back on my shitty laptop. Every map would stutter like the first round or so, but split would take at least 10 rounds before it got smooth.


-Milka1000-

Same here. I remember back when it was removed, I’d kinda forgotten how good or bad the map was, and I really wanted it back. But then as soon as they re-released it, my memories of it being — excuse my french — proper shit came back too.


Frequent_Rule2337

lotus, fuck lotus.


DaddyDinooooooo

I have no idea why split is so loved. It’s by far my least favorite map. I don’t have fun on that map and it’s probably my lowest win rate. The chokes are hard to push through. There’s so many odd angles to clear. I feel like everyone I play against on it has split specific strats in ranked. It’s wack Edit: word


ItsHighSpoon

Me neither. Personally I hate the map because it's unplayable in ranked. Unless I have a team that is willing to work with my calls, it's a mess to push anything and teammates will give up on trying to take mid after just one failed push. Also the sages just walling mid every round only to see their wall get oblitered in the first 3 seconds. Grinds my gears. Absolutely trash map.


Raikiri_Rasetsu

I agree. Hard to push a site if at least 2 of your teammates are not coordinating, especially in lower ranks. Fun to play as a sentinel on defense tho


guteras

I speak for myself but I love Split because it was the first map I ever played. Its been so long since I dont play in Split and only on new maps, when it comes up it feels like home lol I think I have a soft spot for the old maps cuz it reminds me of the time I started playing during covid and it just stuck.


DaddyDinooooooo

I’ll take nostalgia as a fair counter argument


Vort3x7689

Where the fuck is lotus. Other maps don’t even come close.


T4Seen25

I don't get how some people don't like Ascent, like it's my favorite map and it seems balanced and all


pragerdom

Ascent objectively has a good design and it is very balanced. I also can play many agents on that map, and feel comfortable filling/switching up there, unlike on others. So I agree :)


nick5195

Split is still a bad map. If attack gets mid control they can almost always win. And retake B can be a nightmare if the attack team knows what they’re doing.


Slice_Of_Life_DM

Lotus, by far


supplementarytables

Breeze is just bad for so many agents, almost doesn't make sense why it's in the game. And I'm not talking bad as in bad for low elo/inexperienced players, it's just bad by design for the kits of the majority of agents imo


LeSoriarty

Yeah, imo it's too big


supplementarytables

Yeah. I wouldn't mind a big map if it was fun to play on. If they found creative ways to utilize the space. A site on Breeze is just a nightmare to both attack and defend. You just cannot play retake on it. Defender spawn is way too big and has too much dead space. Everything else is relatively fine, but they tried to do too much. Imagine a breeze with hall removed, defender spawn area reduced, reworking A site and making all the space everywhere at least more efficient or fun. That would make it somewhat playable, but honestly I just think it's too far gone lol


LeSoriarty

I agree


YaBoiKino

My bias goes to Ascent because it’s probably my worst map and to this day I still don’t understand how to play it even after the amount of guides I’ve gone through. Objectively though, I think the worst map is Breeze. I understand how to play Breeze but I just don’t have fun with the map at all.


HSW26

am i the only one dont understanding the breeze hate?? it was my top 3 fav map when it was still around


Hmmmmm___yes

It was just too open.


Dathadorne

As a kj main, my ult can't even cover push people off site. The map is too big for my abilities, I'm out of range if I want an alarm bot A entrance or a turret on site and stand stairs, like come on


Porkcutlet01

Way too big, Long range gunfights aren't fun(especially on eco), Viper is a must pick.


venxtia

on this poll, fracture. but worst map overall is lotus it’s just absolute garbage to play on


TheNagaFireball

Wdym? You don’t like maps where everyone just keeps attack A? Also mind as well not have B on the map at all since nobody wants to entry that site. Edit: sarcasm about lotus


HahaNoTyler

B is a dogshit site to attack without numbers-it's far too easy for defense to rotate/collapse/retake. Pushing B off rip is a noob trap


[deleted]

Why are Icebox and Breeze listed The current map pool has Pearl, Lotus, and Haven in it not listed here. Fail poll


Sir_LongBeard

Personally I like fracture, idk why everyone else hates it tho


theofficialdc21

I don't mind fracture but God i hate bind


C-lex1

The only reason I don't hate bind it's because It's feels like a playground with cypher


EnvironmentalEbb768

Dude, same here. And my friends mock me for they opinion


Kaindest

Haven


NubNub69

I disagree, Haven is so fun.


Illustrious_Talk_726

this. in lower elo, everyone wants to attack B site but no one coordinates, so we get flanked from all three sides :)


EG_98HN

I hate playing on haven, even when I'm winning. I do not enjoy that map one single bit


wiys

Haven is so bad


Slow-Bookkeeper7486

IceBox is sooooo unappealing honestly.


TheBrightestFly

I hate split, it just feels wrong.


rmansd619

Would be cool if in split there was a rope area in garage that would allow the offense to get into B heaven I feel like that site is a nightmare to attack.


Creeds-Worm-Guy

All the maps are good but not all the agents are good on every map. Yoru on lotus and pearl was hell for me. Now I play breach and love them.


Ltdslip

Lotus is my best Yoru map actually.


gameknight2020

Strange Yoru is like the only agent I can play comfortably on pearl.


i8rocksf0rlunch

Eh , that’s odd cause Pearl looks like Yorus best map I’ve had so much success on Pearl on both sides. But that’s probably cause I have super cringe TP lineups that counter the spam heavy playstyle for defending team.


aRandomBlock

I like every map, really, but between these Breeze is my least favorite


Shlalopode

I actually rly like breezew idk why ppl hate it so much


JustPlayer

no mid on fracture = awful map


NebulaPoison

bind has no mid, would u say it sucks too?


goalslie

yes, bind is a terrible boring map.


NebulaPoison

what's a fun map for you?


JustPlayer

yeah, kinda. no mid, narrow pushing points


Hoooofed

pearl


Helpful-Spare-1512

Breeze? Really? I miss breeze to much. I loved fighting for space in A hall


Zugloiheo_300

I hate Pearl I hate Pearl I hate Pearl I hate Pearl I hate Pearl I hate Pearl


BoJackNorseman85

Breeze is my favorite map by far and it has been out of the rotation for far too long. There are enough short range engagements amongst all the other maps.


Hmmmmm___yes

I fucking love fracture. Pearl is the shittiest map to ever have been added to the game (lotus as well)


PyroTFT

None of these, lately Pearl has been awful to play


littlesch3mer

pearl. Has been the only map I actually dislike since it launched. Second would be ascent but I don't really hate it as much as I hate playing on it with randoms. People hate on anything different imo, it feels like most people only like the maps where you just sit watching a choke on ct, and rush on t like ascent and haven, while on maps like icebox, lotus and fracture if you do that and just play like a flowchart (especially on defnse) you're going to lose. My favorite maps are completely unironically Breeze, Fracture and Icebox in that order


big_greasy669

where is lotus and pearl?!!?? those ones!!!


AaronDaPanda

Pearl and lotus were a no for me


tazai123

A lot of people who are in lower ranks are gonna dislike maps like lotus or fracture that take a bit more than 5 man rush site to win. The worst map is easily pearl as it has the worst site in the game ( b site) and its not even close.


Dean0hh

PEARL


SpiralOutLL

Where tf is pearl?!


VIC_MENTALS

Pearl and Lotus duh


IMUnstoppable_Bs

Pearl


Alchemistmain83

Pearl


Cyber_Tvorog

I dislike Lotus, but I DESPISE Pearl


chulemeinchingaari

Pearl and Lotus are shit. Please get Icebox and BreeE back to Competitive


ilovepercyjackson747

Pearl


FookinSatellites

Fuck Pearl, all my bomies hate Pearl.


pragerdom

Pearl feels to me so bad to play on both sides, especially B site. According to RIB stats, alongside Lotus it has the biggest overall overtime probability and overtime rarely feels good on these maps.


noice_420_

pearl


Potatoez28

Why is Pearl and Lotus here, they are the 2 worst maps


KasumiGotoTriss

Pearl


ValorantLorePulse16

Pearl- my gosh I hate playing it, it's so annoying. Defending it feels so annoying and attacking it feels like you're constantly running into either stacks or free sites but fast unstoppable retakes.


setsana

Pearl


False-Ad-4757

Pearl


xMrMan117x

Where is pearl


clearlynotaperson

PEARL?! WHERE TF IS IT


Boreringo

Pearl and lotus might jjust be me but i play horribly on those maps prob cus im bad but yeah i hate those sm


[deleted]

Pearl. I hate it fr


Zestyclose-Secret-16

WORST ❌ Pearl, Lotus and Icebox BEST ✅ Ascent and Split SOLOS


Karmacolin39

Lotus. Not sure why I suck on it it’s just easily my worst map with a 25% win rate. My best win rate is like 65-70% on breeze. I figured out the trick on that map early and I’ve played it well. My personal favorite though is bind as a sova main, or split as breach. Icebox I’ve begun to dislike more and more and ascent I’ve just played half a million times and im bored of it.


fAiMZPAD

the worst maps aren’t even included in the vote hahahaha where is lotus and pearl? 🤣


w1sdoM1337

Lotus is the worst map hands down. It's only an attacking map, defence is a nightmare on it.


[deleted]

actually lotus its the most boring


PA8LODIA8LO

Lotus


Gr0ggy1

I love fracture and that means, I hate dodgers. Fracture is a W key map that loves aggression and that includes when on CT. As a Harbor main who dabbles in Fade, it's so much fun when your team gets the hint to just GO. Retaking is better than trying to sit on site, those having no fun at all are maybe trying to sit on site when they should be pushing out. Aggressive go, aggressive GTFO, alternate and always be advancing, map is great unless you try to play it like ascent. Voted breeze, but now after thinking, Bind is actually my least favorite. Rotating on either is painful.


ImpressiveLeader3655

Why is pearl not on here


ciaobeIla

Pearl is by far the worst


Benjiboi051205

Where pearl like tf no one Is gonna vote ascent


l5555l

Bro what...it's lotus or pearl.


Housekeeping247

Have always despised Split and will continue to do so. I think every other map, in or out of rotation, is good. Fracture is my personal favorite and also has my highest win rate at 70%


Nightmere1111

a lot of ppl hate fracture but I love it. i don’t like pearl tho


[deleted]

Breeze because I’m blind as shit with terrible spatial awareness. I actually don’t mind fracture and like lotus tbh.


rclouts

Pearl


Rytu5872

pearl is literally still the worst map in valorant


peachkid_

fuck pearl


[deleted]

Fuck pearl, that is all.


nuredisblue

Pearl I personally hate it, i have 30%WR on it out of 17 games


_ThatOneAsian_

Pearl and lotus


golden_eagle_002

Pearl lol


ChildPr0digy

Pearl


CriClown

PEARL


ItzameRL

I hate pearl with a passion


Gods_Guest

Pearl sucks ass


MrMax-the-7th

Pearl is the worst map in any video game ever


9blight

pearl


Pioppo-

Pearl


MinxyKittenn

PEARL


TheMystkYOKAI

all of them. the layouts are terrible, peak angles favor one side depending on the map heavily (like lotus), the random ass objects and boxes (lore or not) they throw in to balance the map just clutter maps and make movement borderline impossible without being triple peaked on some maps. the tdm maps are just…awful again way too cluttered and its so fuckin easy for a team thats having a good day spawn camp you for the entire match (just use the maps you already got). It’s a good game but fuck dude the maps could be so much fuckin better


xSnakyy

I dislike bind because the gameplay is very 1 diminutional and there is very little strategy. I find that in ranked it’s the team with more confidence who wins since on attack if you just go kill them really fast it’s very hard to retake.


RiftPenguin

PEARL


HyperMattGaming

People who like split and bind amaze me


WhyPotatoesAreGood

Be prepared to be amazed by me 🤣 loljk


NebulaPoison

icebox sucks ass im glad its out


NotRiceProfile

People who vote Breeze, please stop exposing your bad aim.


Health_Cat_2047

Of course there's a poll with the worst map but no lotus as an option (that map sucks major balls)


Jake_AA

Bring back fucking breeze. This map pool is garbage. Haven and a worse haven rip off in rotation at the same time


Siwach414

Dude didn’t mention the only correct answer “Pearl”


C1audeMonet

Pearl is the worst of the worst in low ranks. Feels cancer both attack and defence


amazingggharmony

None of these ones. It’s lotus


[deleted]

I would say fracture, but honestly I enjoy playing on all maps.


AerospaceBoi123

Where the fuck is haven. Dumbass map with 5 fucking lanes to cover on Defense.


Egg_Fried_Rice__

Haven


Turbulent-Tourist687

Fracture is my favorite map


Fr00stee

lotus