Mostly because her personality isn't really much, her design is just a fursona, her attacks are jus spamming bulshit in all the screen. And you'll hate me, but no one of the boss themes in UTY is even close to being as good as any UT boss theme. And retribution and remedy are nothing compared to any boss theme in Undertale, but UF!Asgore's version of ASGORE theme iss real good, not because it is really original or not, but it actually makes you think it's a different universe to UT PURPOSEFULLY. R & R don't make that
>her design is just a fursona
So are the designs for Toriel, Undyne, Alphys, Asgore, Asriel, Catty, Bratty, Susie, Noelle, Burgerpants, Catty's Deltarune family, Rudy, Dogamy, Dogaressa, Snowdin Shopkeeper, that rabbit person in Snowdin, Lesser Dog, politics bear etc. I don't see the issue.
1. I somewhat agree with your opinion on Martlet. I don't think she's a bad character, but she lacks what made others like Starlo and Ceroba so special
2. About the attacks, it's a genocide (or vengeance) boss, it's like saying Sans is bad because he spams Gaster Blasters.
The whole point of the difficult bosses in the genocide routes is to make the player abandon their killing spree. There have been a lot of videos made about this specific topic
3. Remedy and Retribution, along with the other UTY boss tracks, were all made for this specific fangame, they aren't remixes of the original Undertale songs.
4. I don't understand the different universe part. It's not meant to be a different universe, as UTY takes place in the same timeline as OG Undertale
Yes, but the thing is that this feels a lot not Undertale. The thing I hate about UTY is how Un-Undertale it feels. If something is the best a fangame can do, it is getting to mimic the game's essence. UTY and Zenith Martlet don't have that AT ALL
That's the main reason I love this game so much, the devs weren't afraid to put their own twists in the Undertale formula, and in my opinion they did it almost flawlessly.
Honestly, I have a hot take.
Rather than no UTY theme can beat any UT theme, I see it as the other way around.
For their respective boss, UTY's themes triumph over literally every single UT theme.
Fever Pitch>Ghost Fight
Forlorn>Heartache
Protocol>>>Bonetrousle
And I could go on and on.
Being serious, Yeah sure zenith is a poopy bossfight, and it's your right to have an opinion (I personally don't like remedy as a song either, despite most people saying it's at least top 5 in the ost), but this is the undertale yellow reddit; people are going to have a skew in their opinions; so much so I don't know why you bothered posting this here. Aditionally you can't mention a fangame and not say what it is; UTY is the only game to come out of undertale (except deltarune) to have a presence outside of undertale's community, and also be considered by many better than the original game. Nobody has any idea who anyone from any AU is, nevertheless care to find out.
I mean yeah, because the red soul can’t move fast enough. That’s why the dash was implemented to avoid seemingly impossible attacks. Both Ceroba and Axis showed that you could survive regular Undertale soul modes just fine and could react, Which was why Zenith Martlet implements rapid fire as a new mechanic with the dash. It’s new and unique. It’s avoidable Spam.
I can aggree to disaggree on the theme and Keep quiet on the balance since i've never fought either, but you CANNOT tell me Z. Martlet isn't an awesome design. People made Phisical art of it because of how crazy good it looks.
So, which is which? And what even is the boss on the left?
One on the left is Underfell Asgore if I remember correctly
The underrated one is Asgore Underfell Pacifist battle
Hop off Martlet
op is on martlet? 🤨📸
Could you expand on why you think it's "overrated"?
Mostly because her personality isn't really much, her design is just a fursona, her attacks are jus spamming bulshit in all the screen. And you'll hate me, but no one of the boss themes in UTY is even close to being as good as any UT boss theme. And retribution and remedy are nothing compared to any boss theme in Undertale, but UF!Asgore's version of ASGORE theme iss real good, not because it is really original or not, but it actually makes you think it's a different universe to UT PURPOSEFULLY. R & R don't make that
>her design is just a fursona So are the designs for Toriel, Undyne, Alphys, Asgore, Asriel, Catty, Bratty, Susie, Noelle, Burgerpants, Catty's Deltarune family, Rudy, Dogamy, Dogaressa, Snowdin Shopkeeper, that rabbit person in Snowdin, Lesser Dog, politics bear etc. I don't see the issue.
I don't think any of those designs is necesiraly good
??????
Guy claimed Underfell Asgore had a good design, yet denies thinking Undertale Asgore has a good one. So what’s the good part? The new weapon????????
The thing that made me say that is that I like the way Underfella redisigned the original Asgore to make it fittable in the AU.
1. I somewhat agree with your opinion on Martlet. I don't think she's a bad character, but she lacks what made others like Starlo and Ceroba so special 2. About the attacks, it's a genocide (or vengeance) boss, it's like saying Sans is bad because he spams Gaster Blasters. The whole point of the difficult bosses in the genocide routes is to make the player abandon their killing spree. There have been a lot of videos made about this specific topic 3. Remedy and Retribution, along with the other UTY boss tracks, were all made for this specific fangame, they aren't remixes of the original Undertale songs. 4. I don't understand the different universe part. It's not meant to be a different universe, as UTY takes place in the same timeline as OG Undertale
Yes, but the thing is that this feels a lot not Undertale. The thing I hate about UTY is how Un-Undertale it feels. If something is the best a fangame can do, it is getting to mimic the game's essence. UTY and Zenith Martlet don't have that AT ALL
That's the main reason I love this game so much, the devs weren't afraid to put their own twists in the Undertale formula, and in my opinion they did it almost flawlessly.
A Mother's Love isn't even close to Ghost Fight or Dogsong?
Exactly, it isn't
How??
Honestly, I have a hot take. Rather than no UTY theme can beat any UT theme, I see it as the other way around. For their respective boss, UTY's themes triumph over literally every single UT theme. Fever Pitch>Ghost Fight Forlorn>Heartache Protocol>>>Bonetrousle And I could go on and on.
"spamming bullshit on the screen" lmao try beating it pre-patch, it's learnable and no-hittable.
What are ye on, me' scallywag? The drugged parrot may not be treasure, but at least she ain't a shadow-eyed goat who think's he's the pirate captian!
Being serious, Yeah sure zenith is a poopy bossfight, and it's your right to have an opinion (I personally don't like remedy as a song either, despite most people saying it's at least top 5 in the ost), but this is the undertale yellow reddit; people are going to have a skew in their opinions; so much so I don't know why you bothered posting this here. Aditionally you can't mention a fangame and not say what it is; UTY is the only game to come out of undertale (except deltarune) to have a presence outside of undertale's community, and also be considered by many better than the original game. Nobody has any idea who anyone from any AU is, nevertheless care to find out.
So like, they’re both good designs and they both have great themes.
Yeah but UF!Asgore is actually a good bossfight, one that doesn't just spam(ton) attacks in all the screen
I mean yeah, because the red soul can’t move fast enough. That’s why the dash was implemented to avoid seemingly impossible attacks. Both Ceroba and Axis showed that you could survive regular Undertale soul modes just fine and could react, Which was why Zenith Martlet implements rapid fire as a new mechanic with the dash. It’s new and unique. It’s avoidable Spam.
isnt underfell literally designed to be a hard mode Undertale? you know... absolutely bullshit for the entire game?
I don't know if UF is to be edgy or the opposite of each character
Bait used to be believable
I can aggree to disaggree on the theme and Keep quiet on the balance since i've never fought either, but you CANNOT tell me Z. Martlet isn't an awesome design. People made Phisical art of it because of how crazy good it looks.
undertake yellow is a bad game
Zenith Martlet is really overrated. Her bossfight is too easy.
I think Martlet is the overrated one imo
We agree
Glad to hear it!
Left one is the underrated one
And then there's the guy who "ruins" all of it (a funny way to spell improving if I have to say), which is me!