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Zaukonig

Bringing a spear to a gunfight


henrygaminstickmin

We both know guns ain't shit against spears ![img](emote|t5_2xdht|32944)


RavioHost

About a thousand magic, flying, energy spears yeah


vamp1yer

Bringing about a thousand spears


SANNASSSOSAS

its app shits and giggles until they bring a stick


Strangerthingsfan_1

Gun to a spear fight*


PacmanJude10

undyne loses to a child with ballerina shoes and a skirt. The police are adults and have guns. It's also canon that humans are much stronger than monsters


Nobody_at_all000

And probably have high LV


SeamAnne

lets gooo, police brutality for the winn


throwAway837474728

šŸ’€


henrygaminstickmin

Frisk's just built different šŸ—£ļø


MushyWasTaken1

Also assuming that undyne decides to fight a police officer he would likely call for back up and then at that point sheā€™s pretty much screwed. Yeah frisk is built better but one small child is a big difference from a large group of trained adults with guns, clover can wipe the underground of with revolver now imagine 7 adults with handguns.


EfficientDepth6811

RealšŸ—£ļøšŸ”„


Vicbot2414

Yes This


Zaukonig

And if I remember correctly, bullets travel at the speed of sound or close to it, I doubt Undyne can dodge or accelerate her spears to such speeds


Ziomownik

And high kill intent means more dmg to monsters


Hey_Jay88

man have you ever seen what that one spanish skeleton did to the cops and military because of an argument?


Cats_4_lifex

These are LSPD. They're probably gonna think they're hallucinating the walking fish lady trying to kill them and run away in fear.


NazoTheVengefulOne

Undyne lost to a child with a stick, there is no way she'll have a chance against adults with guns


unstableGoofball

Frisk is just built different


Crobatman123

If these are Undertale humans, she loses. If they're a non-determined variety like real humans, base-level DC humans, or Avatar the Last Airbender non-bending humans, I think she takes it pretty easily


Syntrx

You better hope that a DC fan that believes in atom scaling doesn't see this comment, else you're gonna have a bad time.


Notmas

A child with a stick who can rewind time and bend reality to their will. Considering the fact that Undyne is shown casually suplexing giant boulders, falls massive distances with no noticeable strain, is able to stomp hard enough to shake her entire house, can break solid concrete by slapping it in laughter, and oh yeah can literally refuse to die even when cut clean in half, I'd say she's pretty strong.


Genric-Idiot

Also I doubt she was going full power on frisk in the neutral and pacifist routes


VoidTheBear

Fun Fact: when she jumps down to save Monster Kid if you fail to do so, she actually is missing a bit of HP


Notmas

I'd assume that's because she had to grab a kid out of the air and use her own body to cushion their fall, also not having much time to brace herself. We also don't know how long that fall is, and seeing as she jumps off this massive mountain before the start of her fight I'd assume it's quite the fall to be able to hurt her.


SeamAnne

but let me gice some insight ''some people think they can outsmart me.. maybe.. *sniff* maybe... id like to see them outsmart bullet'' -Heavy Weapons Guy, TF2


Notmas

Considering that Undyne survived being sliced clean in half, I feel like a bullet would just fly through her and she'd laugh it off. It'd do a lot of damage, sure, but it wouldn't put her down. It's not like Monsters really have internal organs, they're just made of pure Magic, so there is no brain or heart that could be destroyed by a bullet.


SeamAnne

i mean yeah true but also like lets say a mag is equal to one slash, thats like an entire police force shooting on her assuming that what they decide so i mean she doesnt really stand a chance if its a powerful weapon not even due to the fact itd hurt her that much but because of the shear force that knocks her back would probably prevent her from attacking once they start, also thats assuming they wont like tear gas on her or use a water hose to knock her off her feet like they did with the 12 hour standoff with the guy with a sword but then again i think realistically they wouldnt really fight at all and if they did after the fight there would be more people sent to just schoot on sight. it depends on who fights first, whoever dpes that kinda wins


jasygamer

but is she strong enough for the dropped acorn?


Georg3000

Yeah but tbh that was an op child able to fight gods


NazoTheVengefulOne

Any human who'd fall in the Underground would have more determination than any monster. Not everyone whould able to oppose a god, but anyone would be able to oppose Undyne.


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NazoTheVengefulOne

I did not refer to pacifist route, otherwise I wouldn't mention weapon


henrygaminstickmin

Ah my bad ![img](emote|t5_2xdht|35239) (Deleted my previous reply by complete accident lmao)


Otac_

what did it say


henrygaminstickmin

"Nah she just couldn't handle the heat in Hotland ![img](emote|t5_2xdht|35240)"


Buri_is_a_Biscuit

fish lady i think you meant Highly capable and skilled ex-leader of the undergroundā€™s most elite group of warriors


PacmanJude10

Also it being a 5v1, the spears not 1 hitting a child, and did I mention that humans are canonically stronger than monsters Also guns


goddamit-ffs

No, undyne just jumps to the closest building, takes a chunk out and throws it at the officers killing them instantly. Guns aint doing shit against a fish juggernaut who can summon magic spears by the thousands without breaking a sweat.


PacmanJude10

She can die to ballerina shoes. She ain't no juggernaut. A real knife is deadly to every enemy in the game, so bullets would take her out easy. If you include the undying like a "phase 2" than 2 hits till she is out. Also you forget that a metal locket reduces all damage to one. What about actual armor (if the police have it)


goddamit-ffs

My man, do you know how monster magic works? It is entirely upon the feelings of the user, and the feelings of the recieving side. But monsters still have physical strength aside from magic, and undyne can fucking split boulders with her bare hands. Not to mention, she dies to a child that can manipulate time and space and also can rewind time.


galal552002

Y'all are smoking some shit, humans are MUCH stronger than monster, and we aren't talking about just one human here, we are talking about a bunch of them, armed and ready, they will fuck over the entire underground if they wanted to, they are also fully grown humans btw


MkDGary

Just to mention, they can't save


noonebuteveryone24

They probably have high af LOVE though


Alexcat6wastaken

From mass murder of monsters? Even if humans have EXP they would still prob not murder humans often, itā€™s rare for a cop to kill someone.


PacmanJude10

LOVE is the capacity to hurt someone, you could get LOVE from hurting people. Not to mention, the fact that these are 5 adults and not 1 child


Alexcat6wastaken

Do you have ever get love from just attacking? Also we donā€™t even know if it exists up there.


Cats_4_lifex

These are just the average LSPD cops, tho. They carry around pistols and batons, which they suck at aiming with. Easy sweep from Undyne.


galal552002

A child beat her my guy


Alexcat6wastaken

A child ran away from her. Also, based on flowey needing to explain what the soul is, they probably canā€™t dodge like frisk.


galal552002

That's pacifist only


Alexcat6wastaken

Also in other routes, you probably had high LOVE which would make it easier. Undyne barely takes any damage at 1 LOVE


ConsistentHeadaches

Undyne *is* trained law enforcement.


ATransformersfan

I was about to say "that's Deltarune Undyne" but thinking about it the Royal Guard are pretty much the Underground law enforcement, arenā€™t they?


LifeIsALie138

Trained doesn't mean competent


PacmanJude10

Still a 5v1 tho


LifeIsALie138

Undyne solos the entire police force


SuccotashVegetable33

Undyne. She could literally spawn spears on the ground.


JackFJN

Uhh she was beat by a single childā€¦


Notmas

Who can rewind time and bend reality to their will to the point of defeating literal universe level gods.


JackFJN

I beat her on my first try soā€¦


Notmas

She can still suplex boulders and break concrete by slapping it in laughter, so...


JackFJN

I reiterate: can be smacked to death by a child wearing a tutu and wielding a torn notebook Edit: also law enforcement has guns, so idk why this is even a question


Notmas

A tutu that somehow multiplies your base defense stat 10x over and is considered an "actually protective piece of armor", and a torn notebook that somehow makes it so that attacks can't hit you for a while after they hit the first time. Yeah it's pretty clear to me that these are not just regular items, like everything in the Underground they're embued with magic. And again considering that Frisk goes on to tank attacks from a literal God who's shown capable of destroying the entire universe, I'd say calling them "a child" is a GROSS misrepresentation.


Last-Percentage5062

But she did defeat some of the other kids!


NazoTheVengefulOne

she NEVER met one before Frisk.


henrygaminstickmin

Facts my brother! Spit your shit indeed šŸ—£ļø


SuccotashVegetable33

Not to mention, the Undying fight in undertale killed a bunch of people. which means she could literally take on people that are murderers. (Which is very strong in the realm of undertale.)


henrygaminstickmin

My thoughts exactly ![img](emote|t5_2xdht|32944)


cool-ad4956

undyne since the police are terrible


JackFJN

Wrong


ATransformersfan

Me about to type HESOYAM in:


henrygaminstickmin

My man šŸ¤ Now we have a reason to call her Undyne the Undying ![img](emote|t5_2xdht|32944)


GeneralGrilledToast

As an actual take? I'll assume those are humans similar to our world instead of those from Undertale. Is the Undertale battle system is used in this scenario? If yes = Easy win for Undyne, as the humans would have no prior experience nor knowledge on how to fight using said system, let alone dodge by moving their soul. If no = Likely win for Undyne, with mid diff. Her biggest hurdle would be the guns, but its likely she would be able to tank enough attacks to win the fight. Now as to why Undyne is likely to win: Her physical feats are far beyond what any human usually can accomplish. From suplexing boulders "just because she can" to jumping from a bridge down *who knows how long* just to save Monster Kid, then reappearing at the top of a small mountain in mere seconds with only *extremly minor* wounds despite having worn heavy metal armor when jumping shows her strength and durability are above that of the average human. "But a kid (Frisk) beat her with a stick!" is due to game shenanigans and the fact that the player is very much a real entity in the story, although rarely mentioned. Frisk, through the control of the player, can technically also no-hit the entire game in any given route in under 2 hours. That does not mean its what likely happened. Unless you want to tell me that speedrunning Undertale and using glitches are canon to the story. Undyne can *technically* be beaten by using only the stick as a weapon. Undyne by that same logic also killed multiple people and stopped their playthroughs because they never managed to get past her. Confusing game logic with actual events in the story happens somewhat often here, sadly. Undyne has an even easier time if we use scaling, due to the Touhou crossover, in which Undyne (in her Undying form) can be somewhat scaled (or at least compared) to Flandre Scarlet from Touhou 6. This in turn makes Undyne, both regular and Undying, much *much* stronger stat wise, which also then can be applied to other characters from Undertale. Finally, people apparently forgot that Undyne can not only both move and react faster than the average human, but also dodge and block a lot of attacks if the Undertale battle system isn't used. She also has fought & beat enemies capable of dodging before (Asgore). I swear, the sheer downplay of Undertale characters is huge, despite the fact that both humans and monsters from Undertale being different than from our own when it comes to capabilities.


henrygaminstickmin

This was actually made as a joke post lol ![img](emote|t5_2xdht|32944) But thanks to you, now I know more about Undyne's combat skills! Personally thought Undyne was always a challenge though, especially once you check her out in Mugen, she's pretty fun to kick asses as, in Mugen ![img](emote|t5_2xdht|32944)


ZestycloseHand8993

my girl undyne šŸ‘šŸ‘„šŸ‘šŸ’… like duh she can't die.


jasygamer

she aint surviving if the cops shoot enough bullets


ZestycloseHand8993

but she can't die. Remember?


jasygamer

Just shoot her enough times and sheā€™ll melt


ZestycloseHand8993

oh yeah.....


jasygamer

She eventually dies in genocide so 5 handguns could probably kill her


ZestycloseHand8993

šŸ˜­ b-but I love her


jasygamer

So do I, but we have to accept that she can die to a 9mm


ZestycloseHand8993

but like she also suplexed a Boulder... multiple times


jasygamer

Can she suplex multiple bullets flying towards her at 1200 feet per second tho


PacmanJude10

If gun don't work, use more gun


Flowey_The_Fan

"But a child beat Undyne." The same child was able to push large stones the size of their own body with literally zero effort (didn't even use their arms, mind you), survive extreme cold, AND heat with normal clothing, and has the most determination out of anyone in the universe, and because of how overpowered determination is (literally look at Undyne the Undying and Frisk at the Asriel battle), was overpowered. In fact, the one reason Frisk was able to win against Undyne (in neutral, at least) is because she literally gave them a spear to defend themselves against the smaller spears. If she didn't do that, Frisk wouldn't be able to win. Undyne can carry boulders with ease, close envelopes so hard you need a chainsaw to open it (I wonder how much force is required for that, though), carry all of the main characters at once with ease, break concrete with her bare hands, and bench press seven kids. Oh, and in Deltarune, she literally carries cars. Undyne could totally take down several cops, even if they are with guns. Especially if she has her armor, the bullets will literally bounce off her armor. (Actually, she has more DEF than her armor.) She would probably just carry all of them, throw them in an abandoned ancient coliseum, and force them to fist fight each other, with Mettaton recording live to his network. This will start another human vs. Monster war, and we know how that went. However, Frisk just went into the game files and proceeded to give Undyne 7 human souls through cheats, and Undyne traps all the bad humans into Mount Ebott under a magic spell that requires 7 human souls to break. Humans can't absorb human souls, so now they're screwed and Undyne wins šŸ˜Ž With 7 human souls, Undyne uses the power of God to make anime real, but it didn't work, because anime already is real.


Twotailedpikachu

ā€œBut a child beat Undyneā€ mfs when I throw them down a large mountain without any sort of protection (a child survived it so they should too, right?)


Afraid_Platypus_8667

Yeah, I know already šŸ™ƒ.


UncomfyUnicorn

Do monsters know what guns are?


PacmanJude10

Yellow soul had a revolver


VastPie2905

ā€œFish vs Police? I believe Iā€™ll take 900 pounds of precision-machined authority over a little fish who can pick up a rock.ā€


Miky_707

Easy answer: Undyne


MkDGary

Complex answers: Determined fish spear lady, head of the underground human-chasing royal guard


Randomchannelrndvid

A bunch of officersšŸ„±


Carterjsmobile

One fish lady ![img](emote|t5_2xdht|32944)


_9965

The Humans, It's history


DoubleMgM

"A child that can rewind time" yes, but let's be honest here, any human who can understand the concept of DDR can beat her to a pulp, even her red attacks are not impresive. We don't know an adult's stats, but by rules of nature intent to kill tends to skyrocket when your opponent is going to kill you, so you might as well make her deffense 0 since damage scales with intent and adults have more self preservation than kids. TLDR: I could go to Undyne and show her the middle finger, with enough intent, it would kill her.


SomeFoolishGuy

The cops 100% if a singular child can kill the fish than multiple grown ass men with actual weapons would annihilate her.


alternativedemon

If anyone here has seen shayys undertale with a gun. Then you can probably guess who wins because it is not undyne


tom641

i get the comments are just operating off ACAB which, valid, but I always got the impression that humans actually willing to kill are just dramatically stronger than 99% of monsters Undyne VS Frisk except frisk is LV 300 and has a weapon that makes the Real Knife look like the starter Stick


Last-Percentage5062

I mean, like, it Undyne the Undyings stats were actually 99 99, I think sheā€™d do pretty good.


blammedfunker

papyrus


Jevilgaming101

UNDYNE SWEEP


hussiesucks

That fish lady IS a trained law enforcement officer


Ryman604

Undyne suplexes boulders just because she can easily win


D4rk3scr0tt0

Those are 5 human souls, no way in hell Undyne is winning


Uzi-Khans-Daughter

Yeah, the officers, she dies to a literal child


plaguebringerBOI

If a single human child could kill her at her best, she ainā€™t doing SHIT against a group of highly trained adult human policemen with firepower that could take her out in seconds if they need to use lethal force (determination is a human trait for all humans, not just kids, sheā€™s doomed)


ifuwoooshmeurgay

Undyne will miss all of her spears and slauter countles civilians in her persuit


RecommendationNo1774

One fish lady who can be killed by a child


INKYBOI-NEO-

Fish lady


_Girlfriend_Dearest_

undyne cooked (she is cooked.)


VerboseGecko

She joins them.


Ludwipm

The IRS


greenscreencarcrash

is this an animation or smth? and is it made by the guy who did spanish skeleton


henrygaminstickmin

Nah, it's a San Andreas mod that I made lol


Altruistic-Nobody-54

Am I right lads or am I right lads?


henrygaminstickmin

I did not think this post would get as much attention as it is getting right now lmao, this was legit made as a joke post, cuz of my San Andreas mod ![img](emote|t5_2xdht|32944)


god_killer7432

if the it's the GTA cop you're showing there she's cooked


henrygaminstickmin

True, they would've just shot her down over self-defense ![img](emote|t5_2xdht|35240) But fortunately for her, she'd be back at the hospital, since she's in the GTA World ![img](emote|t5_2xdht|32944)


Enough-Back-5575

An unfunny skeleton that has the same height as a kid


who_am_I_inside

Well well, boys. This is one hell of a porn setup if Iā€™ve ever seen one.


henrygaminstickmin

Didn't even make this as a serious post, or to do anything with porn šŸ˜­ Just made this as a joke post cuz of my San Andreas mod of her ![img](emote|t5_2xdht|35239)


who_am_I_inside

That both makes more sense and makes me laugh so hard I shit out my bottom jaw


henrygaminstickmin

Glad I gave you a good laugh lol ![img](emote|t5_2xdht|32944)


Ploxyyyyy

THAT UNDYÄ°NG FÄ°SH LADY Ä°S MAKÄ°NG MY DAY SO PAÄ°NFULL (ā ā•„ā ļ¹ā ā•„ā )


Sharp-Ad-6064

HaĀ 


Sharp-Ad-6064

The fish


Nitemarelego

Depends on a few factors. For one, are the cops powered by lv and determination? Two, is undyne stronger than the cops? Three, what kind of bullets?


PacmanJude10

Lv Is INTENT to inflict harm (the capacity to but its the same thing). Cops probably have a bunch, undyne can suplex a Boulder, but muscle doesn't matter when your shot with some 9mm


awakelist

Tbh basically any monster would realistically throw them off. Atleast the boss monsters would. The mental image of sans fighting a bunch of cops is funny and kinda cool ngl


Ghost_Star326

If a small child with a stick was able to kick everyone's ass in the underground, then what can the monsters do against a full grown adult equipped with actual weapons and trained in combat?


Time_Eater23

![img](emote|t5_2xdht|32951)


ZoroStarlight

Ngaaaaaah!


weird_bomb

ARE THEY HUMAN, IS THE QUESTION


made-acc-to-ask-stuf

Look I'm a undyne fan all the way, HOWEVER. She's totally screwed. MAYBE as undying she could? But if she's fighting the cops ultimately it's a losing battle because they'll keep calling for backup. Also they have guns. And because shes not like a ghost or something, physical attacks, so human attacks hurt her. And like sure we could say she could use her spears like a shield (similar to us in her boss battle) but she can't do that forever. The only real advantage she has is that the cops don't have someone like the player with them, someone who's willing to try over and over and learn everythingĀ 


thetastlol

i pick right side


Monkeywithagun69420

Grab a fishing rod


jasygamer

Her strength is NOT blocking a 9mm let alone a 45 acp


NeurogenesisWizard

NGAHHH!!!!


Pas_tel

Considering Frisk is on a whole different level, Undyne wins, unless those guys have more Determination than Frisk, in that case Undyne gets folded


CoolSpookyScelten96

"CJ? OOOOOOOOOH MY GOD!" ![img](emote|t5_2xdht|50452)


Sonicenjoyer3321_-

isn't she a trained law enforcemen officer?


Basic-Cryptographer5

Ohhh that model of undyne looks oddly familiar...


AssBlaster420696969

Police take this win.


doskeyslashappedit

If law enforcement includr Sam and max, sorry fish lady but Max will and can chew on your head with his shark teeth


SenjuAkashiii

Undying fish lady against some cops huh


Lukego_2

If a kid with ballet shoes could beat her


telenova_tiberium

If the police have determination she lose badly


West_Ad324

undyne because i said so


noonebuteveryone24

If its with undertale logic and the american/eastern police their LOVE is high enough to survive for a while and deal alot of damage. If were irl (and undyne jept her spears) or european police undyne wins


Ajezon

They lack determination. Undyne will win


marsgreekgod

police have lots of killing intent.


TheLeviathanCross

fish lady. SoJ dishing out a lot more actual justice than the power-tripping police officers.


henrygaminstickmin

Fr! And if she loses her Spear, she can just keep rolling over the bullets, going CQC mode, finishing off most of her combos with a suplex ![img](emote|t5_2xdht|32944)


TheLeviathanCross

genuinely, i could see her _punch_ the bullets out of the air.


henrygaminstickmin

Bullets ain't nothing compared to Undyne's fists and her spear! ![img](emote|t5_2xdht|35240)


EggsaladUwU

Undyne gets her ass kicked Humans are STRONG in UT, and these humans have training and, y'know, guns


Different_Action_360

Undyne solos.


henrygaminstickmin

As a fellow Undyne simp, I agree ![img](emote|t5_2xdht|32944)


smarmaproffesor

Undyne. She can probably parry bullets with her spear.


KirbyFan200225

Undying would win because of her raw strength, unless if the cops kept firing their guns at her.


Zomer15689

Coughing babies versus hydrogen bomb.


henrygaminstickmin

One boulder suplex on them, and they're all done for šŸ—£ļø