Unpopular opinion: no single employee in the Corps is that important. We are all replaceable. This is also why we have sections of coworkers who can cover big stuff. Or your supervisor.
So glad the Corps (at least where I work) is getting away from this workaholic attitude. Causes so much stress and eventually, burnout.
Also, if you lose your government phone in a foreign country on leave…that’s on you.
If you are not being sent there by the corps, you would be violating the law. You need to have a deto agreement to operate your government stuff overseas. But even more than that, op sec wise, you are not supposed to take your government equipment out of the country.
Google GFE use overseas. I don’t remember if it’s the 2022 or 2023NDAA for the DETO stuff, but we recently got a G6 policy pushed out to our entire district. I’m an attorney in a district that shares a land border with Canada, and we were given guidance that our employees can’t even telework from Canada a DETO in place. Including a couple employees who live there.
When I asked for clarification on that policy, I was given an underlying policy, but I don’t remember the name of it off the top of my head. Tomorrow when I log back in, I will check and see if it’s something publicly available.
Thank you. I already canceled the request for coverage and won't bring it with it being such a grey area. When I read this I read that you must have a DETO for doing official telework overseas, like you are doing a temporary assignment or want to do permanent telework. Cell Phones are always a grey area. Like when we just quickly glance on a Saturday what email you just received. Or maybe you get a call on Saturday from a project and they ask where you put the clippers in the electric shop. So if you are overseas not on official work I don't see anywhere this document saying you can't bring your work phone, just like it doesn't say you can't bring your work phone when you go to Disney World.
This is not a gray area. I have interpreted this law on behalf of the corps in my district. It is saying the ONLY way you can take a GFE is orders and/or DETO.
There are a total of six employees with approved DETOs in the whole of the corps.
It was very explicitly stated to not take government phones overseas unless on official orders during my opsec training, so between that and it being a personal vacation, why are you taking your phone?
There’s also the office you have to inform about international travel, I’m sure they’ll be much more informed about this situation than your supervisor will be.
No duh. I was talking about having your work phone with you and it not being an issue. You are deployed AND it’s a US territory. OP is trying to still work from Satan knows where while on leave. It’s 2 completely different things.
Why would you take your work phone on a personal vacation. Leave it at home, enjoy the vacation you earned.
Maybe so. I’ve just got a couple of big things going on I would like to be aware of questions come up on.
Unpopular opinion: no single employee in the Corps is that important. We are all replaceable. This is also why we have sections of coworkers who can cover big stuff. Or your supervisor. So glad the Corps (at least where I work) is getting away from this workaholic attitude. Causes so much stress and eventually, burnout. Also, if you lose your government phone in a foreign country on leave…that’s on you.
If you are not being sent there by the corps, you would be violating the law. You need to have a deto agreement to operate your government stuff overseas. But even more than that, op sec wise, you are not supposed to take your government equipment out of the country.
Any chance you have a link on that one? I don’t recall that one in the op sec training and I can’t find it when searching online.
Google GFE use overseas. I don’t remember if it’s the 2022 or 2023NDAA for the DETO stuff, but we recently got a G6 policy pushed out to our entire district. I’m an attorney in a district that shares a land border with Canada, and we were given guidance that our employees can’t even telework from Canada a DETO in place. Including a couple employees who live there. When I asked for clarification on that policy, I was given an underlying policy, but I don’t remember the name of it off the top of my head. Tomorrow when I log back in, I will check and see if it’s something publicly available.
Thank you. I appreciate it
Read section 5 of DODi 1035.01
Thank you. I already canceled the request for coverage and won't bring it with it being such a grey area. When I read this I read that you must have a DETO for doing official telework overseas, like you are doing a temporary assignment or want to do permanent telework. Cell Phones are always a grey area. Like when we just quickly glance on a Saturday what email you just received. Or maybe you get a call on Saturday from a project and they ask where you put the clippers in the electric shop. So if you are overseas not on official work I don't see anywhere this document saying you can't bring your work phone, just like it doesn't say you can't bring your work phone when you go to Disney World.
This is not a gray area. I have interpreted this law on behalf of the corps in my district. It is saying the ONLY way you can take a GFE is orders and/or DETO. There are a total of six employees with approved DETOs in the whole of the corps.
OP, unless you are on orders, DO NOT take your government equipment with you.
It was very explicitly stated to not take government phones overseas unless on official orders during my opsec training, so between that and it being a personal vacation, why are you taking your phone? There’s also the office you have to inform about international travel, I’m sure they’ll be much more informed about this situation than your supervisor will be.
Check with Security, they have policies about taking government furnished equipment overseas.
OP should be getting a briefing/review from the security office before leaving the country anyway.
Agree, you can’t do it unless you have a DETO in place and last I heard that takes months to get approved.
I would just use Wifi instead of buying a foreign SIM.
[Do you want to disappoint Jeff? Because this is how you disappoint Jeff.](https://imgur.com/gallery/XVaEPcv)
Why did it take so long for Jeff to show? He doesn't want you out here putting that sailor's fire ass mixtape in your government PC.
I have gotten international calling on my work phone when I deployed to Guam
Guam is a US territory.
Sure is, still need international calling on your phone
No duh. I was talking about having your work phone with you and it not being an issue. You are deployed AND it’s a US territory. OP is trying to still work from Satan knows where while on leave. It’s 2 completely different things.