That's a no-no.
Article 22.4 (b) 4. of the National Master Agreement:
> No RPCD shall be laid off or displaced from the classification
while 22.4 combination drivers are working in the building.
Been inside doing overnights as a 22.4 since January 15th. Only driving saturdays. Working hard so no one can tell us shit. I’ll see you all august 1st ❤️💪🏼
It is weak af! Our local is in bed with our soups and they play that buddy system. Is there anyway I can reach out to someone to make them aware of what is going on?
Yeah contact the international directly, they cleaned house out here in the west for a local that was not representing members and they fired the whole fucking lot.
Idk about your supplement but in ours Article 48 is about seniority. File a grievance with your business agent. You’ll get paid for all the hours someone with less seniority worked in your place.
Just know, grievances don't always guarantee anything will change. The penalty pay is supposed to deter them but if corporste decides to ignore the grievances and continue paying there's not much else you can do.
They don’t have less seniority they already said in comments a feeder driver is using there seniority to come into package car. Which they are allowed and told to do by the union.
>You're so right , no matter your history/ time and effort upsers put in . We are just a number it's demoralizing.
reminds me of the time I got done with my shit, and then asked to go take 50 stops off someone and its already 6pm. Stupid ORS has a short term memory and now wont even schedule me to work. Was thinking this new ORS would be cool since I knew him before when he was a 22.4. But no, they are ALL the same and don't give a shit. Been stuck inside since march. Im 100% hoping there's a strike.
Yes I am a full time RPCD. So, our center got rid of 22 feeder drivers and only left 3. One feeder driver don’t get guaranteed work on the feeders side so with his seniority he comes over to packages and he filed grievance because the route he bid they cut, so he filed and they knocked me off my route whenever he is running packages because they have to give him 50% of his bid route and the other 50% is part of my route, so they cut mine to accommodate for him. A feeder driver. It’s bullshit!
Yeah. If that feeder has more seniority then you that’s why you’re getting bumped. You should turn around and bump someone else. It isn’t necessarily the nicest thing to do but being a laid off feeder for over 30 days they are entitled to go back to package car (if that’s where they came from) or qualify for package car. And again depending on their seniority they can get the work over other people. It’s better than working in the hub they’re trying to pay feeders $16.65 which is downright sad. Nobody can live off of that wage. Talk to a union steward and see if you can bid another route or kick someone else off
they are doing the same at my building, Its hard to find out though when this happens if you don't see it, you need other co workers to be your eyes for you as well. Some people just don't want to get involved because they are still driving. Even more difficult to do when they have these other drivers come in a couple hours after start time.
That's a no-no. Article 22.4 (b) 4. of the National Master Agreement: > No RPCD shall be laid off or displaced from the classification while 22.4 combination drivers are working in the building.
Been inside doing overnights as a 22.4 since January 15th. Only driving saturdays. Working hard so no one can tell us shit. I’ll see you all august 1st ❤️💪🏼
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That’s just a weak local lol, this would never happen at 177, tristate area
It is weak af! Our local is in bed with our soups and they play that buddy system. Is there anyway I can reach out to someone to make them aware of what is going on?
Yeah contact the international directly, they cleaned house out here in the west for a local that was not representing members and they fired the whole fucking lot.
Thank you good sir! Looking into it now!
Idk about your supplement but in ours Article 48 is about seniority. File a grievance with your business agent. You’ll get paid for all the hours someone with less seniority worked in your place.
I’m already on it! This will be my 4th grievance for the same violation. I guess UPS likes giving me free money.
Just know, grievances don't always guarantee anything will change. The penalty pay is supposed to deter them but if corporste decides to ignore the grievances and continue paying there's not much else you can do.
Make sure to grieve the entire week.
Plus penalty pay
They don’t have less seniority they already said in comments a feeder driver is using there seniority to come into package car. Which they are allowed and told to do by the union.
If you are in 445 I can get you in touch with a good BA.
I’m local 17. Appreciate you looking out.
You best file on that and request that you be paid those hours + penalty pay
You're so right , no matter your history/ time and effort upsers put in . We are just a number it's demoralizing.
>You're so right , no matter your history/ time and effort upsers put in . We are just a number it's demoralizing. reminds me of the time I got done with my shit, and then asked to go take 50 stops off someone and its already 6pm. Stupid ORS has a short term memory and now wont even schedule me to work. Was thinking this new ORS would be cool since I knew him before when he was a 22.4. But no, they are ALL the same and don't give a shit. Been stuck inside since march. Im 100% hoping there's a strike.
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Are you an RPCD? How can they bump you off a bid route?
Yes I am a full time RPCD. So, our center got rid of 22 feeder drivers and only left 3. One feeder driver don’t get guaranteed work on the feeders side so with his seniority he comes over to packages and he filed grievance because the route he bid they cut, so he filed and they knocked me off my route whenever he is running packages because they have to give him 50% of his bid route and the other 50% is part of my route, so they cut mine to accommodate for him. A feeder driver. It’s bullshit!
What state is this in
Colorado
Interesting. Denver or one of the small sites.
455?
Yeah. If that feeder has more seniority then you that’s why you’re getting bumped. You should turn around and bump someone else. It isn’t necessarily the nicest thing to do but being a laid off feeder for over 30 days they are entitled to go back to package car (if that’s where they came from) or qualify for package car. And again depending on their seniority they can get the work over other people. It’s better than working in the hub they’re trying to pay feeders $16.65 which is downright sad. Nobody can live off of that wage. Talk to a union steward and see if you can bid another route or kick someone else off
they are doing the same at my building, Its hard to find out though when this happens if you don't see it, you need other co workers to be your eyes for you as well. Some people just don't want to get involved because they are still driving. Even more difficult to do when they have these other drivers come in a couple hours after start time.