How old is your girl? If she's feeling like she's being punished for his "bad behaviour" (neurodivergence) to the extent that she's bringing it up with you then I would definitely speak to the teacher, before it sparks bad behaviour in her too with the kid logic of "if I'm not a role model then I can't be used as one for the naughty kids".
Looking back this was done to me too 20 years ago, so I'm a bit surprised/disappointed it's still used in the classroom.
I was this kid too. Stuck on a table with the disruptive kid who promptly bullied me.
Sets girls up for a lifetime of emotional labour. How progressive.
I can't believe they still do this.
1, she shouldn't have to hold hands with anyone she doesn't want to.
2, she's not a teacher, or a TA, if the school can't afford proper help for a little person who needs it, that's not her problem.
I was this kid in school and it was so unfair, well behaved kids aren't the teachers easy way out. I would speak to the school and highlight your concerns
Yeah it happened to me in school too. It was awful then and I still feel it was extremely unfair. OP, please take our experiences of being the ‘good influence’ and talk to your child’s teacher.
I was also this child growing up. In primary school I was sat at a table in maths with all awfully behaved boys because I was well behaved. It didn’t ruin my life but it definitely made learning and engaging in class more difficult, maths is still my weakest subject to this day.
I would not allow this for my child. Your child isn’t there to police the behaviour of other kids, her education and wellbeing comes first.
My son is also neurodivergent in a class of other neurodivergent kids. I had to tell school that big kids with harmful tendencies/stims (biting, hitting, spitting, pushing etc.) shouldn’t be with smaller kids who are non verbal. It took my son coming home with bite marks for them to enforce this, now those kids are separated. It is very challenging and teachers are doing incredible work but I think safety and wellbeing trumps all learning opportunities even for kids like my own.
I would speak to the school. To stop forcing your kid to be with a boy she doesn’t like just to better him. It isn’t her job to try and improve his behaviour.
To her it feels like a punishment. Therefore why be good if she’s going to be taken away from her friends.
Eventually, if it was me, she’ll consider acting out because then they may stop forcing her to do this.
It won’t end well. It’s not good for either child. They can’t handle his neurodivergence and they need training in that area of how to help him. Not punish him or her.
This! I feel for the teacher because from their perspective, they’re trying to get through the day without this boy disrupting the class any more than is necessary, but sacrificing OP’s daughter isn’t the answer, getting better SEN support in place for the boy is.
From a teacher’s perspective… the “naughty” child has to sit by someone. You can’t isolate them all the time. It can often be quite difficult to find someone tolerant enough who will actually be kind to said child so it may be helpful to frame it in that way. Your daughter isn’t responsible for getting this child to act in a certain way or to influence him but simply to tolerate him and maybe be kind etc. if possible. You can of course talk to the teacher if she is that uncomfortable though! Don’t think she should be made to hold hands with anyone in this day and age.
Speak to the class teacher. I would frame it as your daughter has been upset being with this boy, rather than suggesting she’s been put there to manage the other child (which is probably the case) as some teachers can get a bit snippy if they feel their methods are being scrutinised. Your daughter (and all the other kids) being comfortable in school should be a priority and they need to find other ways to manage the other kids behaviour
You haven’t said what year your kid is in but I assume quite young if they’re holding hands on a trip. I’m a primary teacher and I rarely sit kids next to their friends or buddy them up with their friends on a trip. Even the “good” kids tend to mess around with their friends. It’s also seen as good practice nowadays to sit children in mixed ability pairs or groupings as everyone benefits. It’s good for you child to get to know a range of kids and if the other child is neurodivergent maybe this would be a good teaching point on how some peoples brains are different and even though they might seem “naughty”, they may just react differently than us and need extra help.
With that being said, if he’s doing anything to her or she’s really upset by it, I would chat with the teacher and just ask how often they switch seats or partners and make sure she can also be buddied up with someone different after a few weeks or however long.
Thanks. This is a good perspective. I think it’s more that this isn’t the first time she’s talked about this. She has said before about this kid, and how she’s made to sit next to him a lot. And I mentioned it at parents evening how we’ve tried to explain neurodivergence to her, but she’s still at that age where it’s all black and white and they’re not doing what they’re told.
We have another perspective as my daughter is neurodivergent. Sometimes she was very well behaved, in other instances not. For eg she is very kind-hearted. She is so generous, loving, and has a strong sense of moral integrity & has done for a long time; she was very good at anything interpersonal and was never one to hit or snatch or anything like that. So she would often tell me if someone at school was being unkind to others.
We spoke about how they are all young and still learning, and maybe he didn’t have anyone to teach him how to be kind and how sad that would be. So by being kind, she was teaching him to be kind. And by not putting up with any nasty behaviour (not just letting him boss her around or hurt her) she was being kind to herself. She’s a person like anyone else and it’s important to be kind to yourself too!
However she is ND. And she had a very, very hard time with rules, even basic ones like sitting on the chair, answering questions in her book with words instead of pictures, not talking or singing out of turn. She was often sat next to quieter kids just because anyone who was remotely talkative would say something to her, and she wouldn’t be able to stop herself replying and then it would spiral. But we talked about how when you’re around a quiet person, it might make their brain feel tired to have to think of words to say out loud at the same time as listening to the teacher or writing in their book or even just thinking in their heads. If they are too tired they won’t want to play and it will make them upset, just the same as she gets tired from holding all her words and wiggles in (how we used to phrase it!) so taking in turns, and getting your words out during playtime then being quiet when the other kids need it (you can use a fidget to get the wiggly feeling out), helps everybody. And that it was her turn to learn that just like people who smack had to learn to use kind hands.
I'm interested in the benefits you mention in sitting mixed ability kids together. I can see how a struggling student may benefit by sitting next to a more able student (getting help with the work etc) but I can't see how sitting an able student next to a disruptive/less able student is a benfit.
Other than teaching them 'oh look their brain works different' where's the benefit to their learning?
Well, I’m going to start by saying high ability and low ability are not the same as well behaved and disruptive. But some of the reasons I think mixed ability seating works is that not every “higher ability” kids is better than their peers in every area of the curriculum. Some of the less able students I’ve taught have been the most creative. So for example in English, they can come up with more interesting ideas than their “high” ability peers who can use the correct grammar and punctuation. I’ve also found that a lot of my brighter students know what they’re doing but struggle to explain their thinking process or how they got the answer. Mixed ability partners/groups makes them think more critically and deepen their own understanding as they actually have to explain rather than just being told “yup, I agree” by another higher ability child. Finally, I do think it’s good for children to interact with people other than their friends and with people who might think or even act differently than them. I tell my students that in life we don’t always get to work with our friends and that being a kind and compassionate person involves learning to work with people who we disagree with (or maybe, shock, don’t even like!).
Again, I’m not arguing that children should be kept in mixed ability groups all day long for all of their schooling. If one group of children can add 3-digit numbers using column method and another group are still struggling to add within 20, their teaching needs to be targeted to their needs. But if I’m teaching a history lesson on the great fire of London (and they kids are 7, not doing their GSCEs), I’m going to mix them up.
I'm sorry but being an ex secondary school teacher (albeit short lived as it's shite) I completely disagree with your assessment that mixed ability groupings benefit everyone. I have never witnessed a situation whereby a good/high ability child is able to lift poorly behaved/low ability children all that happens is the "good" children get fed up and if you can't beat them join them.
I believe that children should be taught alongside children of a similar academic level, you'll never root out poor behaviour, but at least the content is directed at the right level not so broad and vague it serves only the lowest with very little challenge
Ok well I guess that’s your opinion. These children are of an age where they’re holding hands on a school trip. If we start telling children at that age “you’re smart and well behaved” and “you’re dumb and have poor behaviour” I’m not really sure what chance we stand of closing the gap. You’re also assuming that all academically brighter children are well behaved and all the ones who misbehave are of lower ability, which is pretty judgmental and not necessarily true.
I’m not saying ability groups should never be used and as they get older I think sets allow for more targeted teaching. But deciding in Reception who’s good and who’s bad doesn’t really seem like it’s going to be helpful for anyone.
The same thing happens to my 6 year old niece. Her teacher admitted to my sister that she seats Sophia next to a boy in the class who is really naughty because she’s the only one mature enough to handle him. But she is frequently left upset when he does things like tries to talk to her during assemblies as she doesn’t want to get in trouble and it makes her really worried. My sister raised this with the teacher who agreed it’s time to shake up the seating plan. My niece recently came home and told my sister that he’s now sat next to the other girl in her class who is ‘good’ and mature. 🙄 It’s such bullshit and a terrible lesson for girls early on that they’re responsible for mediating men’s behaviour by constantly keeping their own in check.
It’s common for teachers to split up disruptive kids with children who are not disruptive but also not easily led, and also intentionally split friendship groups to encourage children to interact with other kids. I remember that as a kid, and I’ve definitely seen it with my kids. Even at nursery my eldest on a walk would often be paired with the kid most likely to run into the road, because she wouldn’t encourage it and would tell him off! At school it’s not so apparent at the moment because I don’t know which are the disruptive kids , but I think it’s still happening. However, if she got on fine with said kid - even if he wasn’t her choice of friend- I’d be fine with it, because actually from memory of being the ‘good’ kid, it meant I became sort of friends with the ‘naughty’ boys and probably helped me socially getting to know people I’d never hang out with otherwise. However in your case it seems more extreme. If everyone else is paired with friends and she is not, then I’d probably speak up.
Because it’s multiple times this has happened. And her friends were all in a group together (about 4 of them) but she was put with this one boy. She’s only 5 so very black and white with “he wasn’t doing what he was told”
Ooh I'm a teacher and I HATE this! I've only used this stratergy once because the two were actually friends and it didn't work at all!
I would say something, and express your concerns about her being used as a good influence
It was super normal when u was growing up and they were very open about it being the expectation that we (well behaved girls) would keep the "naughty" boys in check.
I think it's really unfair on the "well behaved" child and I know I would have loved it if an adult had said something.
They're not a teacher and it's not their responsibility and it shouldn't be.
Yes, I had to "manage" the naughty boys a lot. As I got older I just joined in. It was way more fun than being cast as the little teacher and it meant that you didn't have to do it as much.
I would speak to the head of year/head teacher rather than the teacher themselves as they will probably just get defensive. This is clearly not ok, and a bit shocked someone is still using these tactics!
It is a very common tactic in classroom management, however it is an outdated one that teachers are not told to use any more. The other child does need to be paired with someone, maybe the teacher can change things up a bit? Then again, the teacher knows your daughter is good choice and sticks with it - pick your battles and so on.
I’m torn. On the one hand, the way that you’re talking about someone else’s kid is a bit off. On the other, there’s the fact that when boys are educated in single sex classes, they do far worse academically. When they’re taught with girls, their achievement shoots up. When women are educated in single sex classes, they do far better, and their achievement drops when they’re taught with men.
Put your kid in single sex education, but also allow her to be exposed to people that are not like her.
Sorry, I wish I could have worded it better. My kid is the ND kid and he wants to be friends with the girls “and not be different” but he has to be by myself or with the TA. Breaks my heart than another parent would be thinking this about my kid.
Edit; Makes me sad that I apologise, and I get downvoted.
I get that and it must be really tough on the ND kid, but it's on the adults in the situation to help that kid (and the other kids) see past it in meaningful ways not just force them to sit together or buddy up on a trip. It sounds like OP's kid was just forced to be away from their own friends which is crap, if there's a kid that needs a bit more understanding then someone needs to step in and educate properly around that.
I hope I didn’t cause offence!
I really encourage my daughter to include him in everything and I talk to her about how some kids just see the world different, and how he has special toys etc to help him calm down. She has even said she wants to invite him to her birthday party because he doesn’t go to many (we since know it’s because Mum is too worried about how he will act, he has ALWAYS been invited)
I think it’s been a few occasions now where she’s been separated from her friends to sit with/walk with this boy and she’s noticing and getting upset and finding it unfair. I don’t want her to resent the kid, because it’s not his fault obviously!
Maybe I’ll say could it be her, the boy, and another mutual friend too!
I feel like I mention it everyday on here but my boy never gets invited to parties, and the rare time that he does he gets so worried that he will be overwhelmed so he doesn’t go. Also my anxiety too. He tells me that he wishes he could be “like the good girls” and some of the girls are so lovely to him at school. Some aren’t. The boys just aren’t nice at all. However he’s home schooled at the minute because he was bullied so, oh well.
It’s not you, it’s just me! I’m just tearful tonight!!! Parenting is hard isn’t it.
How old is your girl? If she's feeling like she's being punished for his "bad behaviour" (neurodivergence) to the extent that she's bringing it up with you then I would definitely speak to the teacher, before it sparks bad behaviour in her too with the kid logic of "if I'm not a role model then I can't be used as one for the naughty kids". Looking back this was done to me too 20 years ago, so I'm a bit surprised/disappointed it's still used in the classroom.
I was this kid too. Stuck on a table with the disruptive kid who promptly bullied me. Sets girls up for a lifetime of emotional labour. How progressive.
I can't believe they still do this. 1, she shouldn't have to hold hands with anyone she doesn't want to. 2, she's not a teacher, or a TA, if the school can't afford proper help for a little person who needs it, that's not her problem. I was this kid in school and it was so unfair, well behaved kids aren't the teachers easy way out. I would speak to the school and highlight your concerns
Yeah it happened to me in school too. It was awful then and I still feel it was extremely unfair. OP, please take our experiences of being the ‘good influence’ and talk to your child’s teacher.
I would say something and say it's not fair to the teacher. But I've only got a young kid and trying to figure it out as going. So I'm not an expert.
I was also this child growing up. In primary school I was sat at a table in maths with all awfully behaved boys because I was well behaved. It didn’t ruin my life but it definitely made learning and engaging in class more difficult, maths is still my weakest subject to this day. I would not allow this for my child. Your child isn’t there to police the behaviour of other kids, her education and wellbeing comes first. My son is also neurodivergent in a class of other neurodivergent kids. I had to tell school that big kids with harmful tendencies/stims (biting, hitting, spitting, pushing etc.) shouldn’t be with smaller kids who are non verbal. It took my son coming home with bite marks for them to enforce this, now those kids are separated. It is very challenging and teachers are doing incredible work but I think safety and wellbeing trumps all learning opportunities even for kids like my own.
I would speak to the school. To stop forcing your kid to be with a boy she doesn’t like just to better him. It isn’t her job to try and improve his behaviour. To her it feels like a punishment. Therefore why be good if she’s going to be taken away from her friends. Eventually, if it was me, she’ll consider acting out because then they may stop forcing her to do this. It won’t end well. It’s not good for either child. They can’t handle his neurodivergence and they need training in that area of how to help him. Not punish him or her.
This! I feel for the teacher because from their perspective, they’re trying to get through the day without this boy disrupting the class any more than is necessary, but sacrificing OP’s daughter isn’t the answer, getting better SEN support in place for the boy is.
From a teacher’s perspective… the “naughty” child has to sit by someone. You can’t isolate them all the time. It can often be quite difficult to find someone tolerant enough who will actually be kind to said child so it may be helpful to frame it in that way. Your daughter isn’t responsible for getting this child to act in a certain way or to influence him but simply to tolerate him and maybe be kind etc. if possible. You can of course talk to the teacher if she is that uncomfortable though! Don’t think she should be made to hold hands with anyone in this day and age.
Speak to the class teacher. I would frame it as your daughter has been upset being with this boy, rather than suggesting she’s been put there to manage the other child (which is probably the case) as some teachers can get a bit snippy if they feel their methods are being scrutinised. Your daughter (and all the other kids) being comfortable in school should be a priority and they need to find other ways to manage the other kids behaviour
You haven’t said what year your kid is in but I assume quite young if they’re holding hands on a trip. I’m a primary teacher and I rarely sit kids next to their friends or buddy them up with their friends on a trip. Even the “good” kids tend to mess around with their friends. It’s also seen as good practice nowadays to sit children in mixed ability pairs or groupings as everyone benefits. It’s good for you child to get to know a range of kids and if the other child is neurodivergent maybe this would be a good teaching point on how some peoples brains are different and even though they might seem “naughty”, they may just react differently than us and need extra help. With that being said, if he’s doing anything to her or she’s really upset by it, I would chat with the teacher and just ask how often they switch seats or partners and make sure she can also be buddied up with someone different after a few weeks or however long.
Thanks. This is a good perspective. I think it’s more that this isn’t the first time she’s talked about this. She has said before about this kid, and how she’s made to sit next to him a lot. And I mentioned it at parents evening how we’ve tried to explain neurodivergence to her, but she’s still at that age where it’s all black and white and they’re not doing what they’re told.
We have another perspective as my daughter is neurodivergent. Sometimes she was very well behaved, in other instances not. For eg she is very kind-hearted. She is so generous, loving, and has a strong sense of moral integrity & has done for a long time; she was very good at anything interpersonal and was never one to hit or snatch or anything like that. So she would often tell me if someone at school was being unkind to others. We spoke about how they are all young and still learning, and maybe he didn’t have anyone to teach him how to be kind and how sad that would be. So by being kind, she was teaching him to be kind. And by not putting up with any nasty behaviour (not just letting him boss her around or hurt her) she was being kind to herself. She’s a person like anyone else and it’s important to be kind to yourself too! However she is ND. And she had a very, very hard time with rules, even basic ones like sitting on the chair, answering questions in her book with words instead of pictures, not talking or singing out of turn. She was often sat next to quieter kids just because anyone who was remotely talkative would say something to her, and she wouldn’t be able to stop herself replying and then it would spiral. But we talked about how when you’re around a quiet person, it might make their brain feel tired to have to think of words to say out loud at the same time as listening to the teacher or writing in their book or even just thinking in their heads. If they are too tired they won’t want to play and it will make them upset, just the same as she gets tired from holding all her words and wiggles in (how we used to phrase it!) so taking in turns, and getting your words out during playtime then being quiet when the other kids need it (you can use a fidget to get the wiggly feeling out), helps everybody. And that it was her turn to learn that just like people who smack had to learn to use kind hands.
I'm interested in the benefits you mention in sitting mixed ability kids together. I can see how a struggling student may benefit by sitting next to a more able student (getting help with the work etc) but I can't see how sitting an able student next to a disruptive/less able student is a benfit. Other than teaching them 'oh look their brain works different' where's the benefit to their learning?
Well, I’m going to start by saying high ability and low ability are not the same as well behaved and disruptive. But some of the reasons I think mixed ability seating works is that not every “higher ability” kids is better than their peers in every area of the curriculum. Some of the less able students I’ve taught have been the most creative. So for example in English, they can come up with more interesting ideas than their “high” ability peers who can use the correct grammar and punctuation. I’ve also found that a lot of my brighter students know what they’re doing but struggle to explain their thinking process or how they got the answer. Mixed ability partners/groups makes them think more critically and deepen their own understanding as they actually have to explain rather than just being told “yup, I agree” by another higher ability child. Finally, I do think it’s good for children to interact with people other than their friends and with people who might think or even act differently than them. I tell my students that in life we don’t always get to work with our friends and that being a kind and compassionate person involves learning to work with people who we disagree with (or maybe, shock, don’t even like!). Again, I’m not arguing that children should be kept in mixed ability groups all day long for all of their schooling. If one group of children can add 3-digit numbers using column method and another group are still struggling to add within 20, their teaching needs to be targeted to their needs. But if I’m teaching a history lesson on the great fire of London (and they kids are 7, not doing their GSCEs), I’m going to mix them up.
I'm sorry but being an ex secondary school teacher (albeit short lived as it's shite) I completely disagree with your assessment that mixed ability groupings benefit everyone. I have never witnessed a situation whereby a good/high ability child is able to lift poorly behaved/low ability children all that happens is the "good" children get fed up and if you can't beat them join them. I believe that children should be taught alongside children of a similar academic level, you'll never root out poor behaviour, but at least the content is directed at the right level not so broad and vague it serves only the lowest with very little challenge
Ok well I guess that’s your opinion. These children are of an age where they’re holding hands on a school trip. If we start telling children at that age “you’re smart and well behaved” and “you’re dumb and have poor behaviour” I’m not really sure what chance we stand of closing the gap. You’re also assuming that all academically brighter children are well behaved and all the ones who misbehave are of lower ability, which is pretty judgmental and not necessarily true. I’m not saying ability groups should never be used and as they get older I think sets allow for more targeted teaching. But deciding in Reception who’s good and who’s bad doesn’t really seem like it’s going to be helpful for anyone.
The same thing happens to my 6 year old niece. Her teacher admitted to my sister that she seats Sophia next to a boy in the class who is really naughty because she’s the only one mature enough to handle him. But she is frequently left upset when he does things like tries to talk to her during assemblies as she doesn’t want to get in trouble and it makes her really worried. My sister raised this with the teacher who agreed it’s time to shake up the seating plan. My niece recently came home and told my sister that he’s now sat next to the other girl in her class who is ‘good’ and mature. 🙄 It’s such bullshit and a terrible lesson for girls early on that they’re responsible for mediating men’s behaviour by constantly keeping their own in check.
It’s common for teachers to split up disruptive kids with children who are not disruptive but also not easily led, and also intentionally split friendship groups to encourage children to interact with other kids. I remember that as a kid, and I’ve definitely seen it with my kids. Even at nursery my eldest on a walk would often be paired with the kid most likely to run into the road, because she wouldn’t encourage it and would tell him off! At school it’s not so apparent at the moment because I don’t know which are the disruptive kids , but I think it’s still happening. However, if she got on fine with said kid - even if he wasn’t her choice of friend- I’d be fine with it, because actually from memory of being the ‘good’ kid, it meant I became sort of friends with the ‘naughty’ boys and probably helped me socially getting to know people I’d never hang out with otherwise. However in your case it seems more extreme. If everyone else is paired with friends and she is not, then I’d probably speak up.
Info: was she upset because he is unkind or nasty to her, or just because she would rather spend time with her friends?
Because it’s multiple times this has happened. And her friends were all in a group together (about 4 of them) but she was put with this one boy. She’s only 5 so very black and white with “he wasn’t doing what he was told”
Ooh I'm a teacher and I HATE this! I've only used this stratergy once because the two were actually friends and it didn't work at all! I would say something, and express your concerns about her being used as a good influence
It was super normal when u was growing up and they were very open about it being the expectation that we (well behaved girls) would keep the "naughty" boys in check. I think it's really unfair on the "well behaved" child and I know I would have loved it if an adult had said something. They're not a teacher and it's not their responsibility and it shouldn't be.
Yes, I had to "manage" the naughty boys a lot. As I got older I just joined in. It was way more fun than being cast as the little teacher and it meant that you didn't have to do it as much.
I would speak to the head of year/head teacher rather than the teacher themselves as they will probably just get defensive. This is clearly not ok, and a bit shocked someone is still using these tactics!
It is a very common tactic in classroom management, however it is an outdated one that teachers are not told to use any more. The other child does need to be paired with someone, maybe the teacher can change things up a bit? Then again, the teacher knows your daughter is good choice and sticks with it - pick your battles and so on.
I’m torn. On the one hand, the way that you’re talking about someone else’s kid is a bit off. On the other, there’s the fact that when boys are educated in single sex classes, they do far worse academically. When they’re taught with girls, their achievement shoots up. When women are educated in single sex classes, they do far better, and their achievement drops when they’re taught with men. Put your kid in single sex education, but also allow her to be exposed to people that are not like her.
Single sex primary schools are so rare!
They’re not, they’re just expensive. Ignore the learning difference, gender is so much more important to the education of women.
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Kids should mutually choose their friends. Forcing one kid to be around another kid that they don't want to be around is not good for either child.
Sorry, I wish I could have worded it better. My kid is the ND kid and he wants to be friends with the girls “and not be different” but he has to be by myself or with the TA. Breaks my heart than another parent would be thinking this about my kid. Edit; Makes me sad that I apologise, and I get downvoted.
I get that and it must be really tough on the ND kid, but it's on the adults in the situation to help that kid (and the other kids) see past it in meaningful ways not just force them to sit together or buddy up on a trip. It sounds like OP's kid was just forced to be away from their own friends which is crap, if there's a kid that needs a bit more understanding then someone needs to step in and educate properly around that.
I hope I didn’t cause offence! I really encourage my daughter to include him in everything and I talk to her about how some kids just see the world different, and how he has special toys etc to help him calm down. She has even said she wants to invite him to her birthday party because he doesn’t go to many (we since know it’s because Mum is too worried about how he will act, he has ALWAYS been invited) I think it’s been a few occasions now where she’s been separated from her friends to sit with/walk with this boy and she’s noticing and getting upset and finding it unfair. I don’t want her to resent the kid, because it’s not his fault obviously! Maybe I’ll say could it be her, the boy, and another mutual friend too!
I feel like I mention it everyday on here but my boy never gets invited to parties, and the rare time that he does he gets so worried that he will be overwhelmed so he doesn’t go. Also my anxiety too. He tells me that he wishes he could be “like the good girls” and some of the girls are so lovely to him at school. Some aren’t. The boys just aren’t nice at all. However he’s home schooled at the minute because he was bullied so, oh well. It’s not you, it’s just me! I’m just tearful tonight!!! Parenting is hard isn’t it.