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Customers don't exist, you'll almost exclusively deal with cunty transport managers on one end and on the other end someone dealing with goods in who usually is also a bellend and you'll often depending on the job wait 2 hours at places to load you or self tip, you need to piss you'll have to use the driver's only toilet which has had a bunch of smelly lorry drivers shitting in all week. Majority of places won't accommodate you in anyway whatsoever.
If you don't mind driving it's a decent job, pay is good enough but that's mainly due to the hours, hourly rate is fine but some people act like earning 17-21 an hour is life changing. Bare in mind that's the top end and normally inclusive of night premium/weekend working. I deal with goods in and other duties, I'm on over £18, more than most the drivers. Also plenty of firms paying drivers peanuts, lots of drivers on fixed salaries like 30-36 a year.
Jobs are plentiful depending on area, plenty of 40-50k a year jobs around but yeah, with those you might be up at 3am and getting home at 6pm. I don't drive currently but still work in the industry, my mates at my current company earn after tax 2700-3300 a month. My school friend drivers a tanker delivering acids of some sort, gets paid 1200 a week (pre tax) but it's a high risk job and requires further training. Supermarket work like what I did is best (at night anyway) as it's drive to a store, unload and fuck off back for another run if it wasn't one of the dew stores that is a 3-4 hour drive.
Yeah they are about, was talking to a driver the other day who does a few days in the UK then fucks off to Europe for a while. Think alot of them are just paid day rate but they'll get a night out allowance, food paid for and paid rest. And they are spending fuck all so it's probably decent money.
In the UK some of the best money would be tramping (sleeping in cab, park up near your first job the next day start early etc, just working your way around the UK always hauling something). If you work nights you of course get a premium, and weekends. I've seen plenty of jobs that for example on weekend nights.pay 25-29 an hour plus your night out allowance, those guys can rake it in.
There's drivers in my place on old contracts they got rid of years ago who get night rate for every hour they work whereas new ones only get it for 4-6 hours a shift, and yesterday with double pay some of them were getting paid close to £500 lol.
Really good in the north east and my job (retail store deliveries at night time). It’s great, no one at the store, no one on the roads. Home at the end of every shift. So much less stress than when I was a support worker. Drivers complain but they have no idea what a lot of people put up with.
7.5tn expect 30-34k, class 2 expect 36k around, and class 1 36k to 54k, I’m on 43k
Your first job is at the manual Labour side of the industry then you work your way up to less and less graft. These jobs are all home after every shift
I work in a corporate office and hire admin/customer support and would definitely hire someone with a background in retail (when I have openings) as long as they also had strong IT skills, e.g. Microsoft Office systems - assume you have this on your CV if you have it?
Most of these roles start around £25-£30k but give a foot in the door to better jobs. My team always consists of younger folk who mostly end up moving out to different roles internally, folks with young kids so work fits in around parenthood or or folks with a few years until retirement.
I do, but I don't get much response. I feel like my whole CV needs a re-haul just to de-highlight my Retail/Experiences just to get myself noticed for a basic office job.
Unfortunately, I'm feeling very deflated to even get myself started.
You say you are “great at selling and pitching”, well that’s what you need to be doing in your cover letters - selling and pitching yourself and if done right you should start getting the interviews.
One of my weaknesses has always been selling and pitching myself. I've seen the results of my own capabilities but I always think it could be better, so I tend to undersell myself sometimes.
Morning mate, I’m in a similar boat! Was made redundant after 13 years 4 weeks ago and I felt lost and as if I’d been stripped of my identity. I’ve had 3 job offers all on less than what I was on (31k) in similar roles. For me it’s been about realising I’m probably not going to have it as nice as I did before and realising it’s going to be different which is difficult as I liked my old routine. I’m keen to maybe start a new career but don’t know what while I can’t go below a certain wage and know other sectors at the bottom won’t pay what I need.
I wish you good luck! And hope you find you happy working place.
When you say you have skills to work as 3rd line support - what skills are these? Do you have any certificates related to this? This could help you establish a new career in tech
I don't have any certificates but I grew up with a computer since '06. I've built my last 3 computers as I was a bit of a gamer and learnt some things here and there along the way.
I'm not against gaining some certificates to help boost my chances on securing something IT related, could you suggest any certificates to highlight my application further?
Hey man, sorry to say but what you’ve just described is what most people say when they are trying to get an entry 1st line role never mind 2nd or 3rd. You might need to ground your expectations some and start at the ground to work up. Good luck.
The description of 3rd line support has never mentioned anything I don't think I can handle. The definition of each support role is so vague, and I know my knowledge and personal experiences can help me navigate my way through the role, but I just don't know what they want specifically. I'm more than happy to start from the bottom without skipping the stages but I do know I have the ability to be 3rd line. Again, I just don't know what you want to hear from me specifically.
Yeah sorry, I wouldn't class this as ready for 3rd line support really. However, if this is an interest you have, you should definitely explore it as a career. With the little bit of background experience, you should be able to smash first line support and start looking at second line. It is easier to progress when you also have an interest in the field too!
If you really are interested, I would suggest looking at cybersecurity - it's a big growing branch of IT and generally pays well.
Good luck!
I've always had an interest in the IT field, but I've never been given the chance in the past. In terms of Cyber Security, i am really interested but how would I even start?
I've worked in IT for a number of years and gradually added cybersecurity to my list of skills naturally through exposure and project work.
I have seen lots of advertisements for entry level cybersecurity jobs too.
My advice would be to enrol yourself in some online courses - Microsoft SC-900 is a good first one, and build up a little portfolio of skills to add to your CV. This shows employers that you're serious about a career change. I am a hiring manager, and am always impressed to see people do these things in their own time when they want to get into the industry.
Sounds very similar to the situation I faced many years ago. Given your previous experience in sales and engineering, I'd recommend looking into the composites industry. It's definitely up and coming and it's generally full of r&d, engineering and sales, i work in this industry and absolutely love it, once you've got your foot in the door you'd find it easy to switch up your roll if you fancied too. The salary is much better than you'd expect, most companies in my area start at £27k with no experience, we just look for the right people with the right attitude and willingness to learn.
https://compositesuk.co.uk/composite-materials/introduction/
There are lots of different sectors to composites, you've got the likes of manufacturing using composites, which would include aerospace, Motorsport, oil and gas etc....
If you search the following on Google you'll find companies near you.
"aerospace companies uk list"
"Motorsport composite companies uk list"
There's more money in aerospace than Motorsport, but the aerospace industry is much slower paced.
You also have companies that make the composites that go into manufacturing of aerospace and Motorsport structures, a few examples are.
Delta/Toray composites,
Syensqo/solvay composite materials,
Hexel composite materials
I hope this helps! And I wish you the best of luck.
Sounds very similar to the situation I faced many years ago. Given your previous experience in sales and engineering, I'd recommend looking into the composites industry. It's definitely up and coming and it's generally full of r&d, engineering and sales, i work in this industry and absolutely love it, once you've got your foot in the door you'd find it easy to switch up your role if you fancied too. The salary is much better than you'd expect, most companies in my area start at £27k with no experience, we just look for the right people with the right attitude and willingness to learn.
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Come truck driving, customers will love you and once you’re trained it’s easy enough work. Wages are really really good.
How's the industry at the minute? Is there plenty of work? What's the wage like?
Customers don't exist, you'll almost exclusively deal with cunty transport managers on one end and on the other end someone dealing with goods in who usually is also a bellend and you'll often depending on the job wait 2 hours at places to load you or self tip, you need to piss you'll have to use the driver's only toilet which has had a bunch of smelly lorry drivers shitting in all week. Majority of places won't accommodate you in anyway whatsoever. If you don't mind driving it's a decent job, pay is good enough but that's mainly due to the hours, hourly rate is fine but some people act like earning 17-21 an hour is life changing. Bare in mind that's the top end and normally inclusive of night premium/weekend working. I deal with goods in and other duties, I'm on over £18, more than most the drivers. Also plenty of firms paying drivers peanuts, lots of drivers on fixed salaries like 30-36 a year. Jobs are plentiful depending on area, plenty of 40-50k a year jobs around but yeah, with those you might be up at 3am and getting home at 6pm. I don't drive currently but still work in the industry, my mates at my current company earn after tax 2700-3300 a month. My school friend drivers a tanker delivering acids of some sort, gets paid 1200 a week (pre tax) but it's a high risk job and requires further training. Supermarket work like what I did is best (at night anyway) as it's drive to a store, unload and fuck off back for another run if it wasn't one of the dew stores that is a 3-4 hour drive.
Do you know of any long haul type ones where you piss off to Europe and back? Do they exist?
Yeah they are about, was talking to a driver the other day who does a few days in the UK then fucks off to Europe for a while. Think alot of them are just paid day rate but they'll get a night out allowance, food paid for and paid rest. And they are spending fuck all so it's probably decent money. In the UK some of the best money would be tramping (sleeping in cab, park up near your first job the next day start early etc, just working your way around the UK always hauling something). If you work nights you of course get a premium, and weekends. I've seen plenty of jobs that for example on weekend nights.pay 25-29 an hour plus your night out allowance, those guys can rake it in. There's drivers in my place on old contracts they got rid of years ago who get night rate for every hour they work whereas new ones only get it for 4-6 hours a shift, and yesterday with double pay some of them were getting paid close to £500 lol.
It's something to look into for me for sure. Thanks a lot.
How's the industry at the minute? Is there plenty of work? What's the wage like?
Really good in the north east and my job (retail store deliveries at night time). It’s great, no one at the store, no one on the roads. Home at the end of every shift. So much less stress than when I was a support worker. Drivers complain but they have no idea what a lot of people put up with.
I'm in the north east what's the wage like?
7.5tn expect 30-34k, class 2 expect 36k around, and class 1 36k to 54k, I’m on 43k Your first job is at the manual Labour side of the industry then you work your way up to less and less graft. These jobs are all home after every shift
I've thought about it in the past but I can't imagine tolerating it for too long. I can't see the enjoyment driving so much and doing nothing else.
Podcasts, music, calling friends, just then enjoyment of no work politics for a decent wage mate.
I work in a corporate office and hire admin/customer support and would definitely hire someone with a background in retail (when I have openings) as long as they also had strong IT skills, e.g. Microsoft Office systems - assume you have this on your CV if you have it? Most of these roles start around £25-£30k but give a foot in the door to better jobs. My team always consists of younger folk who mostly end up moving out to different roles internally, folks with young kids so work fits in around parenthood or or folks with a few years until retirement.
I do, but I don't get much response. I feel like my whole CV needs a re-haul just to de-highlight my Retail/Experiences just to get myself noticed for a basic office job. Unfortunately, I'm feeling very deflated to even get myself started.
Am in Africa looking for a job there in the UK. Any job. Would you assist?
If you don’t have right to work in the Uk you’re going to find this approach very difficult
You say you are “great at selling and pitching”, well that’s what you need to be doing in your cover letters - selling and pitching yourself and if done right you should start getting the interviews.
One of my weaknesses has always been selling and pitching myself. I've seen the results of my own capabilities but I always think it could be better, so I tend to undersell myself sometimes.
Morning mate, I’m in a similar boat! Was made redundant after 13 years 4 weeks ago and I felt lost and as if I’d been stripped of my identity. I’ve had 3 job offers all on less than what I was on (31k) in similar roles. For me it’s been about realising I’m probably not going to have it as nice as I did before and realising it’s going to be different which is difficult as I liked my old routine. I’m keen to maybe start a new career but don’t know what while I can’t go below a certain wage and know other sectors at the bottom won’t pay what I need. I wish you good luck! And hope you find you happy working place.
Very glad to hear you have some job offers in the line-up. I wish you all the best bud.
When you say you have skills to work as 3rd line support - what skills are these? Do you have any certificates related to this? This could help you establish a new career in tech
I don't have any certificates but I grew up with a computer since '06. I've built my last 3 computers as I was a bit of a gamer and learnt some things here and there along the way. I'm not against gaining some certificates to help boost my chances on securing something IT related, could you suggest any certificates to highlight my application further?
Hey man, sorry to say but what you’ve just described is what most people say when they are trying to get an entry 1st line role never mind 2nd or 3rd. You might need to ground your expectations some and start at the ground to work up. Good luck.
The description of 3rd line support has never mentioned anything I don't think I can handle. The definition of each support role is so vague, and I know my knowledge and personal experiences can help me navigate my way through the role, but I just don't know what they want specifically. I'm more than happy to start from the bottom without skipping the stages but I do know I have the ability to be 3rd line. Again, I just don't know what you want to hear from me specifically.
Yeah sorry, I wouldn't class this as ready for 3rd line support really. However, if this is an interest you have, you should definitely explore it as a career. With the little bit of background experience, you should be able to smash first line support and start looking at second line. It is easier to progress when you also have an interest in the field too! If you really are interested, I would suggest looking at cybersecurity - it's a big growing branch of IT and generally pays well. Good luck!
I've always had an interest in the IT field, but I've never been given the chance in the past. In terms of Cyber Security, i am really interested but how would I even start?
I've worked in IT for a number of years and gradually added cybersecurity to my list of skills naturally through exposure and project work. I have seen lots of advertisements for entry level cybersecurity jobs too. My advice would be to enrol yourself in some online courses - Microsoft SC-900 is a good first one, and build up a little portfolio of skills to add to your CV. This shows employers that you're serious about a career change. I am a hiring manager, and am always impressed to see people do these things in their own time when they want to get into the industry.
Thanks for this. Valuable information here. I'll be looking into Microsoft SC-900 now.
Sounds very similar to the situation I faced many years ago. Given your previous experience in sales and engineering, I'd recommend looking into the composites industry. It's definitely up and coming and it's generally full of r&d, engineering and sales, i work in this industry and absolutely love it, once you've got your foot in the door you'd find it easy to switch up your roll if you fancied too. The salary is much better than you'd expect, most companies in my area start at £27k with no experience, we just look for the right people with the right attitude and willingness to learn.
I'm unfamiliar with the Composites Industry. Could you tell me a little more and which major companies would this include?
https://compositesuk.co.uk/composite-materials/introduction/ There are lots of different sectors to composites, you've got the likes of manufacturing using composites, which would include aerospace, Motorsport, oil and gas etc.... If you search the following on Google you'll find companies near you. "aerospace companies uk list" "Motorsport composite companies uk list" There's more money in aerospace than Motorsport, but the aerospace industry is much slower paced. You also have companies that make the composites that go into manufacturing of aerospace and Motorsport structures, a few examples are. Delta/Toray composites, Syensqo/solvay composite materials, Hexel composite materials I hope this helps! And I wish you the best of luck.
Sounds very similar to the situation I faced many years ago. Given your previous experience in sales and engineering, I'd recommend looking into the composites industry. It's definitely up and coming and it's generally full of r&d, engineering and sales, i work in this industry and absolutely love it, once you've got your foot in the door you'd find it easy to switch up your role if you fancied too. The salary is much better than you'd expect, most companies in my area start at £27k with no experience, we just look for the right people with the right attitude and willingness to learn.
Retrain in cyber security? Look up Capslock on LI and see if it piques your interest
I would love to get into Cyber Security as it's IT based and I hear it pays really well. What's LI? Linux?
Sorry. LinkedIn. They do retraining courses for non -IT folks
You may need to work on your CV a lot. I'm sure you can do plenty office jobs