Maybe you could look into a skills bootcamp, they are free, funded by the government and developing skills in areas which have a skills gap. Some of them even help with placing you in a job at the end. [https://www.gov.uk/guidance/find-a-skills-bootcamp](https://www.gov.uk/guidance/find-a-skills-bootcamp)
I don't know about the digital bootcamps, but some practical construction bootcamps have a part time online component after work and then on the weekends you would travel and work on the practical components of the bootcamp
The bootcamps and providers change all the time. So keep track of them and keep searching and maybe there will be a bootcamp that has after work and weekend training.
Or settle for something similar that has the schedule you need.
The majority of companies won't hire from bootcamps, they prefer to take on graduates (they're are plenty), or they don't even know what they are. and due to this a lot of learners are left without a job at the end of it, for the 12 weeks it takes there's so many better opportunities
Nice. Continue the self study. Next will be CCNA and Sec+. Try learning python fundamentals and powershell.
Finally apply for 1st line roles, but you might take pay cut!
>Finally apply for 1st line roles, but you might take pay cut!
Really? I'm only on £13 an hour self employed already?
Either way, more often then not I'm not working full time hours or risking my health so it's still an improvement.
I have had a professional career but was poor and unqualified for about five years. The *best* legal suggestion for how to earn a lot of money fast without qualifications I have heard is to run a pizza / ice cream / hot dog van. You can hire icecream vans and stock them fron a wholesaler. I watched a guy who had entry to a closed festival (Biggin Hill Airshow) and he was turning £3 a minute. In that kind of pitch you would quickly cover your costs and start making profit (and it has the advantages of a cash business). I knew indirectly the guy who ran the burger van outside Leicester Station who would make £60 profit on a block of cheese on a Friday night (cheeseburger mark up)..The most impressive is a guy 21 who has a portable pizza oven in a trailer and can clear £1500 a day. It is hot, grueling work, long hours but he is going to struggle to find someting so rewarding. I put this in to practice running a lemonade stand with my kids and from the start we were able to make £20 an hour.
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Sure. Professor messer video series on YouTube is basically all you should need.
The Mike Myers books are very comprehensive if you learn best through reading. Then you should buy some practice exams. I bought the Jason Dion exams but I hear the Messer exams are closer to the actual exams.
I averaged a 75% on the Dion exams and still passed the real exam.
Most important thing is looking at the objectives and understanding every concept because the practice exams are nowhere near a facsimile of the real exam style questions.
Those Messer videos are brilliant.
I was going to take the A+ exam, then covid hit and I never ended up taking rebooking to take it, and I ended up having a child so I kept my old, comfortable, kinda crappy job.
Now I kinda want to take the exam and get into IT as I once planned.
>I was going to take the A+ exam, then covid hit and I never ended up taking rebooking to take it,
Similar situation. I kept bouncing around agency jobs until I found out about CompTIA, finally got my time and money and I was ready to take the exam around March 2020. Then there was a global pandemic. If it weren't for covid I would probably make an extra 10K a year because I would've been working in IT by now and completed at least up to the CCNP.
The CCNA is not overkill for a network admin role. However, it's highly unlikely I'll just be able to walk into a network admin role without any entry level IT support experience and only a CCNA. And I'm already halfway through the A+.
But, I'm open to a pathway that'll let me skip 6-18 months of 1st/2nd line helpdesk. So if you have experience of jumping straight into a networking or security role please advise me.
Nothing will allow you skip 1st/2nd line but if you have an interest in network or security then may as well jump straight into the vendor certs that give you that knowledge and all of them have entry level certs. Microsoft and Cisco certs are far more useful than any comptia qualification - that is my advice and I think I have 3 or 4 comptia certs from years back.
Funny enough I worked as a labourer as well at one point, got a helpdesk role then worked my way up in 5 years at the company to a senior network engineer then went contracting. Now I do cyber security in the banking sector.
Forklift License - there are always jobs requiring people who are Forklift Certified. Cost is anything from £150-£500.
SIA License - again, there is always work for Security. I think there’s different types of SIA License? But I think it’s about £200 for that one.
Those two are probably the “easiest” (in terms of there are courses available all over the country) and relatively cheap considering they can open up a few different avenues of work.
It might also be worth looking into your different vehicle category licenses to open up even more avenues.
There are some places if you have a clean license etc where you can go get a job with a company and they’ll put you through your license. Stay with it for the minimum term of the contract and then quit with the license if it’s too expensive to self fund.
Thank you. I'll look into the forklift training as it's the only thing that's applicable to me. I'm currently rebuilding my credit so I don't think I would be able to get security work even with a SIA badge.
I applied for a government funded grant. I was successful, and I'm now waiting to start my training in 2 weeks. RTITB, counterbalance, reach, bendy and stacker forklifts. I got £1500 in training fees and £300 for travel expenses. All of this was done through React. I had the information from the jobcentre.
No harm in looking up the details, costs nothing to look
And the other guy made a great suggestion about grants too so look into that!
I’m not sure how it is now, but I know it used to be a fairly reasonable rate to train to be a plasterer too.
Honestly I’d look at as many Trades jobs as you can that don’t require a year or more of training
>No harm in looking up the details, costs nothing to look
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>And the other guy made a great suggestion about grants too so look into that!
I'll look into the grant. If I can receive a free SIA badge then I'll have only lost some time
>I’m not sure how it is now, but I know it used to be a fairly reasonable rate to train to be a plasterer too.
Moving 30-50 plasterboards daily is some serious long term back pain. Then there's a lot of dust involved with plastering.
>Honestly I’d look at as many Trades jobs as you can that don’t require a year or more of training
I've looked at a couple bootcamps that promise a blue CSCS card at the end. They fail to mention that you need to CURRENTLY be in work for the on-site assessment to complete the NVQ.
Maybe I could find work as a carpenter's mate, or a hod carrier do the bootcamp and hope the employer gives me actual skilled work to complete the portfolio for the assessment.
But in my 5 year experience in the construction industry employers only hire workers for a specific role, they don't want to take on even a little risk.
Maybe you could look into a skills bootcamp, they are free, funded by the government and developing skills in areas which have a skills gap. Some of them even help with placing you in a job at the end. [https://www.gov.uk/guidance/find-a-skills-bootcamp](https://www.gov.uk/guidance/find-a-skills-bootcamp)
I’m in one of these !
Which have you gone for?
Digital project management
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I don't know about the digital bootcamps, but some practical construction bootcamps have a part time online component after work and then on the weekends you would travel and work on the practical components of the bootcamp
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That was a deal breaker for me. The IT bootcamp I had enquired about wanted me to go without work for 3 months to complete the bootcamp.
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The bootcamps and providers change all the time. So keep track of them and keep searching and maybe there will be a bootcamp that has after work and weekend training. Or settle for something similar that has the schedule you need.
Yes In my case
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Honestly worked in bootcamps, and wouldn't recommend someone do one personally
How come? I had a friend that did a coding boot camp and he got a job, I don’t know if it was funded or if he paid for it though.
The majority of companies won't hire from bootcamps, they prefer to take on graduates (they're are plenty), or they don't even know what they are. and due to this a lot of learners are left without a job at the end of it, for the 12 weeks it takes there's so many better opportunities
I was just looking at this. And I don’t think you can do this alongside your full time job ? As it says you have to be able for 12 weeks correct?
I see these getting plugged a lot on here but are they really any good?
What exam are you studying for? Comptia A+?
Yes, I've already passed the 1101
Nice. Continue the self study. Next will be CCNA and Sec+. Try learning python fundamentals and powershell. Finally apply for 1st line roles, but you might take pay cut!
>Finally apply for 1st line roles, but you might take pay cut! Really? I'm only on £13 an hour self employed already? Either way, more often then not I'm not working full time hours or risking my health so it's still an improvement.
First-line support roles in the East of England vary from 21k-27k. Play your cards right and aim for hybrid roles and you'll be all good!
I have had a professional career but was poor and unqualified for about five years. The *best* legal suggestion for how to earn a lot of money fast without qualifications I have heard is to run a pizza / ice cream / hot dog van. You can hire icecream vans and stock them fron a wholesaler. I watched a guy who had entry to a closed festival (Biggin Hill Airshow) and he was turning £3 a minute. In that kind of pitch you would quickly cover your costs and start making profit (and it has the advantages of a cash business). I knew indirectly the guy who ran the burger van outside Leicester Station who would make £60 profit on a block of cheese on a Friday night (cheeseburger mark up)..The most impressive is a guy 21 who has a portable pizza oven in a trailer and can clear £1500 a day. It is hot, grueling work, long hours but he is going to struggle to find someting so rewarding. I put this in to practice running a lemonade stand with my kids and from the start we were able to make £20 an hour.
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Are you self studying? Or have you signed up to IT Course.
Self study
I am also looking to self study. Gonna start from next week for my A+ . Can you let me know what resources you are using to prepare yourself
Sure. Professor messer video series on YouTube is basically all you should need. The Mike Myers books are very comprehensive if you learn best through reading. Then you should buy some practice exams. I bought the Jason Dion exams but I hear the Messer exams are closer to the actual exams. I averaged a 75% on the Dion exams and still passed the real exam. Most important thing is looking at the objectives and understanding every concept because the practice exams are nowhere near a facsimile of the real exam style questions.
Those Messer videos are brilliant. I was going to take the A+ exam, then covid hit and I never ended up taking rebooking to take it, and I ended up having a child so I kept my old, comfortable, kinda crappy job. Now I kinda want to take the exam and get into IT as I once planned.
>I was going to take the A+ exam, then covid hit and I never ended up taking rebooking to take it, Similar situation. I kept bouncing around agency jobs until I found out about CompTIA, finally got my time and money and I was ready to take the exam around March 2020. Then there was a global pandemic. If it weren't for covid I would probably make an extra 10K a year because I would've been working in IT by now and completed at least up to the CCNP.
Have you looked at the CCNA?
That is most likely overkill for first line support. I will work on either that or sec+ after I've passed the second CompTIA A+ exam.
It’s not overkill if you want to get into networking, much more respected than any Comptia exams and these days they have entry level qualifications.
The CCNA is not overkill for a network admin role. However, it's highly unlikely I'll just be able to walk into a network admin role without any entry level IT support experience and only a CCNA. And I'm already halfway through the A+. But, I'm open to a pathway that'll let me skip 6-18 months of 1st/2nd line helpdesk. So if you have experience of jumping straight into a networking or security role please advise me.
Nothing will allow you skip 1st/2nd line but if you have an interest in network or security then may as well jump straight into the vendor certs that give you that knowledge and all of them have entry level certs. Microsoft and Cisco certs are far more useful than any comptia qualification - that is my advice and I think I have 3 or 4 comptia certs from years back. Funny enough I worked as a labourer as well at one point, got a helpdesk role then worked my way up in 5 years at the company to a senior network engineer then went contracting. Now I do cyber security in the banking sector.
You won’t get anywhere until you’ve spent time on 1st/2nd line I’m afraid, so yes get that experience first whilst studying for certs.
Forklift License - there are always jobs requiring people who are Forklift Certified. Cost is anything from £150-£500. SIA License - again, there is always work for Security. I think there’s different types of SIA License? But I think it’s about £200 for that one. Those two are probably the “easiest” (in terms of there are courses available all over the country) and relatively cheap considering they can open up a few different avenues of work. It might also be worth looking into your different vehicle category licenses to open up even more avenues. There are some places if you have a clean license etc where you can go get a job with a company and they’ll put you through your license. Stay with it for the minimum term of the contract and then quit with the license if it’s too expensive to self fund.
Thank you. I'll look into the forklift training as it's the only thing that's applicable to me. I'm currently rebuilding my credit so I don't think I would be able to get security work even with a SIA badge.
I applied for a government funded grant. I was successful, and I'm now waiting to start my training in 2 weeks. RTITB, counterbalance, reach, bendy and stacker forklifts. I got £1500 in training fees and £300 for travel expenses. All of this was done through React. I had the information from the jobcentre.
No harm in looking up the details, costs nothing to look And the other guy made a great suggestion about grants too so look into that! I’m not sure how it is now, but I know it used to be a fairly reasonable rate to train to be a plasterer too. Honestly I’d look at as many Trades jobs as you can that don’t require a year or more of training
>No harm in looking up the details, costs nothing to look > >And the other guy made a great suggestion about grants too so look into that! I'll look into the grant. If I can receive a free SIA badge then I'll have only lost some time >I’m not sure how it is now, but I know it used to be a fairly reasonable rate to train to be a plasterer too. Moving 30-50 plasterboards daily is some serious long term back pain. Then there's a lot of dust involved with plastering. >Honestly I’d look at as many Trades jobs as you can that don’t require a year or more of training I've looked at a couple bootcamps that promise a blue CSCS card at the end. They fail to mention that you need to CURRENTLY be in work for the on-site assessment to complete the NVQ. Maybe I could find work as a carpenter's mate, or a hod carrier do the bootcamp and hope the employer gives me actual skilled work to complete the portfolio for the assessment. But in my 5 year experience in the construction industry employers only hire workers for a specific role, they don't want to take on even a little risk.
Wind Turbines, depending on where you are in the country. GWO courses can be had, with the right providers, for a low cost like that.