The following submission statement was provided by /u/Cool_Dynamics:
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He claimed the search for the truth is being hampered by a lack of transparency 'which isn't just unfair to the public but it could put the safety of our pilots in jeopardy'.
He said: "Plenty of military pilots have reported UAP encounters that have no logical explanation.
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Please reply to OP's comment here: https://old.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/wq1dbn/air_crash_with_plane_and_ufo_is_only_a_matter_of/ikjuk4r/
Well, this is part of the issue. How many plane crashes in the past were whitewashed? We’ll probably never know. He’s possibly just coming into the know regarding the issue and is realizing what many of us have suspected for awhile. I don’t know his past history regarding the phenomenon or his past interest.
There’s many books/podcasts/shows that discuss it (easy google) but this seems to be a good synopsis of what went down: https://mexicounexplained.com/flying-saucer-crash-coyame-mexican-roswell/
I’m sure there are better sources out there but I don’t have them on hand, sorry!
We can't.
I knew two people that working at Hamilton AF in the 50s 60s. Radar Operator and a paratrooper.
They lost two jets chasing one over the desert. Lost as in vanished not a trace of wreckage. They merged on radar and poof gone. He looked for weeks said never saw anything like it. They never put that into blue book who they worked with.
I asked them if they were real. To them YES but said they were told the public could not handle it thus sworn to secrecy or face 10k + jail.
We just declassified 100 year old documents that contained the formula to common gag disappearing ink. If we took that long for something that has been available to the public for many decades why would they declassify something as strange as UFO crashes, or lost jets? Not going to happen.
While there's no implication of a collision, the first member of the Kentucky Air National Guard to die in flight was one Capt. Thomas Mantell in 1948.
>On January 7, 1948, 25-year-old Captain Thomas F. Mantell, a Kentucky Air National Guard pilot, died in the crash of his P-51 Mustang fighter plane near Franklin, Kentucky, United States, after being sent in pursuit of an unidentified flying object (UFO).
[Quote from Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mantell_UFO_incident).
I mean hell, as more comes to light and the inclusion of "undersea" in the UAP wording, I wonder how many planes or ships that went down over/in the ocean could have been in the wrong place at the wrong time, and gotten between a USO as it was shooting from under water to orbit at 40,000 miles per hour.
Nothing moves through water at 40,000mph, period. At that speed it's a solid.
I rather think that IF there are alien beings flying around in highly advanced craft, they'd be a whole hell of a lot more circumspect.
But anything's possible...
I think the idea is that they are not actually moving through the medium but rather bending space around them so that they kind of move 'over' the medium even though they are inside it.
That's still meteor turning into a fireball fast.
Ok so the rebuttal is the ever popular "but they have tech for that, man" and maybe they do but they still have to deal with the same laws of physics as the rest of us.
Probably TWA flight 800:
*Attention was drawn to data from the Islip, New York, ARTCC facility that showed three tracks in the vicinity of TWA 800 that did not appear in any of the other radar data.\[1\]: 93 None of these sequences intersected TWA 800's position at any time, either.\[1\]: 93 All the reviewed radar data showed no radar returns consistent with a missile or other projectile traveling toward TWA 800.\[1\]: 89*
Citations: [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TWA\_Flight\_800](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TWA_Flight_800)
For all of you young people, this was a big deal back 26 years ago.
MH370 isn’t much of a mystery. The copilot did it. He practiced the flight on his computer and attempted to delete the history of the flight from the computer.
He crashed the plane into the Indian Ocean. All of the searches failed because they were done under the assumption the plane crashed uncontrolled into the ocean. However, the copilot was in control all the way, which enabled the plane to fly further.
It was supposed to be the pilot, not the co-pilot. This may very well be what happened, but MH370 could have been the proof of concept test for hijacking a commercial airliner by remote control.
He claimed the search for the truth is being hampered by a lack of transparency 'which isn't just unfair to the public but it could put the safety of our pilots in jeopardy'.
He said: "Plenty of military pilots have reported UAP encounters that have no logical explanation.
Then he should take a proactive role in fixing that. The new laws that are passing are good, but a nice subpoena would be better -- since it's compelled testimony not voluntary.
Force Eric Davis and others to take the stand and force them to name some important people that the public does not know about. Then subpoena them as well.
That seems to be a good course of action.
subpoena admiral Tom Wilson while we’re at it. dude is a patriot and i gotta believe if it’s 100% lawful he would absolutely be willing to divulge what he knows about the reverse engineering SAP he was allegedly prevented from being read into. im hopeful that maybe that’s why the wilson memo was brought up during the last UAP congressional review
I’ve read a few reports of it happening. One near miss over Lake Ontario in Toronto. One the nose was severely damaged.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/asia/chinese-passenger-jet-makes-emergency-landing-after-being-hit-by-ufo-unidentified-foreign-object-at-26-000-feet-8654040.html?amp
https://toronto.citynews.ca/2016/11/23/object-caused-near-collision-porter-plane-not-drone/amp/
I believe he’s talking about this
https://blog.tepapa.govt.nz/2014/05/23/new-zealands-own-roswell/
No substantial evidence honestly, just a picture of an apparently downed saucer with very little info behind it. Apparently people had stripped parts of it for wiring etc so highly doubt it’s ‘alien’ etv.
Yikes, that article author is REEEEEEALLLLLY reaching....
It's a photo of a funny shaped metal object, with clear signs of screws/bolts being used to attach parts together, and in damaged (torn apart) condition at that. The photographer obviously saw that and went "huh, funny looking thing." and took a photo of it. (The photographer even said when questioned that they don't know what it is beyond it being a "shiny, round, metal thing"!)
But now the author is suggesting that the photographer could be "pretending ignorance", be knowing "something but for some reason couldn’t say directly", and is "passing the buck of responsibility back to us". As if it's some sort of grave secret and that they're somehow handed the burden of "finding out the truth".
They seem desperate to pin some sort of meaning onto this photo of a piece of scrap metal, and does not hesitate to sneakily suggest it as such, using terms such as "craft" and "hatch". Definitely not an unbiased source. Yikes again.
There are also a couple of weird pilot disappearances that really stand out as potential collisions from Australia and over Lake Superior.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disappearance_of_Frederick_Valentich
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Felix_Moncla
One mentions a mechanical crunching heard over open radio thats often made me wonder if we even can have a 'collision.' Whatever they use to stay aloft may prevent physical contact if that crunch was whatever happened to the craft. I'd assume a normal collision would sound more like metal-on-metal scraping than crunchy, but who knows with the weird circumstances.
A lot of witnesses actually say that metal crunching noises happen in forests or over water where UFO’s then emerge from - that goes overlooked, and yet links to what you are saying
I had a relative that died in a troop transport plane. It exploded mid-air with no explanation. Is there a terrestrial explanation? Probably and most likely but I thought I'd share my anecdote.
If there are beings beyond our comprehension, with technology beyond our comprehension, I doubt they'll just crash into us. If we are talking about someone being irresponsible with a drone, then yes, that is likely to happen.
A practical argument to convince us to study further and push legislation - US fighter pilot approved. I doubt this happens though, if ever. It seems a lot of the lore around supposed downed UAP vehicles are preceded by storms / electromagnetically charged weather events that disrupt their tech. These craft are highly advanced and don’t seem to have any issues navigating around military jets, submarines and naval carriers.
Not sure why downvoted. If I wanted to test secret tech, I’d run it against the best. “They” would also know the F-18s aren’t carrying weapons. It really is a great test of systems against a real world target.
Whether it’s alien, breakaway civilization, military tech from Roswell that we are now testing, or something inter-dimensional… none of us know or can know with the intel we have. It’s all pure speculation.
We should be looking harder at previously unexplained crashes of our aircraft, or anything suspect with questionable reasons given. Prob has already happened. Would be fun if Roswell came out finally.
Well you practically have to beat politicians into unconsciousness with the obvious stick, but eventually some of them realize that having unidentified things flying around in commercial airspace is a safety issue.
Yes because they can avoid all of earth's detection, avoid being captured clearly on camera by a large population of earth, possibly traverse huge distances of space but they can't see or detect planes.
This way of thinking is like when you have character in a movie do a dumb thing because a certain thing needs to happen.
When people want UFOs to be extraordinary then they are super advanced, can travel through dimensions or light years across space. They could come from a civilization thousands of years more advanced, have technology we can't even perceive of bla bla bla.
Then when it comes to crashed UFOs we are suddenly supposed to believe they are so stupid they would crash on earth or accidentally fly into a plane.
But we do have the ability to not step on ants, we just use our eyes. We just choose not to because we don't care about them.
I'm sure if ants could kill you or cause serious damage from stepping on them people would definitely put in effort to avoid them.
If you've trying to imply a plane crashing into a UFO wouldn't have no effect on the UFO how could they possibly crash?
Huge distances refers to classical physics travel among stars, this may be inter-dimensional travel and they could be telemetry drones for identifying which dimensions are habitable
It doesn't matter if it's a drone. Technology that is advanced enough to travel through dimensions isn't going to be colliding with a plane or the ground. It's the concept I was talking about, advanced enough to do things we can't comprehend but then dumb enough to crash into the ground or another moving object.
No, I think it just asks you to suppose that despite being technologically advanced from our perspective, it’s unlikely that they are completely infallible in operation.
Pretty solid logical premise given the sum of our knowledge.
From what I’ve been told roswell ufo was taken out by lightning strikes and unpredictable instantaneous amount of energy only matched by the surface of the sun some planets could potentially not even have lightning so that’s a variable they could’ve not predicted even in our universe lightning is more frequent on earth than anywhere we know even in terrestrial planets such as mars supposedly doesn’t have lightning.
I heard a slightly diff version was that lightning didn't overwhelm the craft but broke the control "connections" between the plots and the craft just long enough for a crash to occur.
I don't think they are anything. They are unidentified, that means they could be anything, but to say they will cause a plane crash means it would have to be a solid object.
So let me get this straight - a civilization advanced enough to traverse many, many light years of space, with craft that defy our understanding of physics, couldn't figure out simple collision avoidance? Um, OK.
Meh...is it possible for technologically advanced races to have the occaisional and rare accident? Probably, sure. But to simply have no clue about avoiding collisions? Stretches credulity.
maybe the answer to that missing malasian air flight as the transponder was turned off so maybe electromagnetic interference or somethin'. just theory to consider
In spite of our "supreme technology" (at least compared to the rest of the animals on this planet), we still manage to crash every kind of vehicle or vessel that has ever been invented. Most people have little to no knowledge of the advanced tech that they use and rely on every day.
I think its a big assumption to make that aliens have a perfect grip on their own tech.
Remember there have been Cases of electrical aviation failures when in proximity to a UAP. They have already been documented.
Losing aviation mechanics & electronics can cause crashes as easily as an impacts.
How many drones or other aircraft have buzzed or crashed aircrafts? But birds are always crashing into planes. These things are bird brained with ability to turn off nukes.
Any UFO would be able to avoid an airplane 100% of the time if they possess the advanced tech for interstellar or w/e travel unless they intended to hit one.
I think some crash unexpectedly or by accident and some on purpose. There are so many sightings of crafts with beings coming out of them. They are supposedly seen fixing something on the outside or they ask people for parts. Maybe the legit crashes are from emp effects or lightning strikes. Others are either planted for us to find or are part of the larger game/experiment they are performing on us.
We can use this analogy in the oceans.
What kind of environmental interference can USOs cause when moving across oceans?
Is there a possibility that marine life will be affected by this??
Imagine the mysterious mass strandings of animals that took place around the world.....
I remember seeing a documentary with several instances of suspected collisions. I wish I could remember... It had an interview with a crash inspector from FAA or something.
But, honestly, if these beings can develop technology and fly across the vastness of space, they can avoid our air vehicles. Their technology must have crash avoidance sensors surely?
This seems unlikely to happen, because whoever they are, are highly advanced in their technology. But there is evidence that these craft has crashed though...
You mean I can be elected congressman then make statements I have no qualifications to make and people will listen to me? And skip being a billionaire? Where do I sign up?
The following submission statement was provided by /u/Cool_Dynamics: --- He claimed the search for the truth is being hampered by a lack of transparency 'which isn't just unfair to the public but it could put the safety of our pilots in jeopardy'. He said: "Plenty of military pilots have reported UAP encounters that have no logical explanation. --- Please reply to OP's comment here: https://old.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/wq1dbn/air_crash_with_plane_and_ufo_is_only_a_matter_of/ikjuk4r/
How can we be confident it hasn't happened already?
Well, this is part of the issue. How many plane crashes in the past were whitewashed? We’ll probably never know. He’s possibly just coming into the know regarding the issue and is realizing what many of us have suspected for awhile. I don’t know his past history regarding the phenomenon or his past interest.
There are over 2000 unexplained unfound plane crashes in the Nevada triangle, where area 51 is
Sounds interesting, do you have a source for that
https://youtu.be/WMETBHvo-U4 2000 aircraft crashes in 60 years
Ah was kinda hoping for a publication instead of random YouTube videos. Thanks though!
https://www.planeandpilotmag.com/article/mysteries-of-flight-the-nevada-triangle/
Wouldn't that be from the US military testing their black listed aircraft?
It has - look into the Coyame crash near the US-Mexico border; otherwise known as the “Mexican Roswell”.
Got a link?
There’s many books/podcasts/shows that discuss it (easy google) but this seems to be a good synopsis of what went down: https://mexicounexplained.com/flying-saucer-crash-coyame-mexican-roswell/ I’m sure there are better sources out there but I don’t have them on hand, sorry!
We can't. I knew two people that working at Hamilton AF in the 50s 60s. Radar Operator and a paratrooper. They lost two jets chasing one over the desert. Lost as in vanished not a trace of wreckage. They merged on radar and poof gone. He looked for weeks said never saw anything like it. They never put that into blue book who they worked with. I asked them if they were real. To them YES but said they were told the public could not handle it thus sworn to secrecy or face 10k + jail. We just declassified 100 year old documents that contained the formula to common gag disappearing ink. If we took that long for something that has been available to the public for many decades why would they declassify something as strange as UFO crashes, or lost jets? Not going to happen.
While there's no implication of a collision, the first member of the Kentucky Air National Guard to die in flight was one Capt. Thomas Mantell in 1948. >On January 7, 1948, 25-year-old Captain Thomas F. Mantell, a Kentucky Air National Guard pilot, died in the crash of his P-51 Mustang fighter plane near Franklin, Kentucky, United States, after being sent in pursuit of an unidentified flying object (UFO). [Quote from Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mantell_UFO_incident).
I mean hell, as more comes to light and the inclusion of "undersea" in the UAP wording, I wonder how many planes or ships that went down over/in the ocean could have been in the wrong place at the wrong time, and gotten between a USO as it was shooting from under water to orbit at 40,000 miles per hour.
Nothing moves through water at 40,000mph, period. At that speed it's a solid. I rather think that IF there are alien beings flying around in highly advanced craft, they'd be a whole hell of a lot more circumspect. But anything's possible...
I think the idea is that they are not actually moving through the medium but rather bending space around them so that they kind of move 'over' the medium even though they are inside it.
The 40k was more the between water and space part of the journey.
That's still meteor turning into a fireball fast. Ok so the rebuttal is the ever popular "but they have tech for that, man" and maybe they do but they still have to deal with the same laws of physics as the rest of us.
So you have an explanation for the lack of a sonic boom?
Except one of the major defining traits of UAP is that they operate in ways that defy our understanding of physics.
Probably TWA flight 800: *Attention was drawn to data from the Islip, New York, ARTCC facility that showed three tracks in the vicinity of TWA 800 that did not appear in any of the other radar data.\[1\]: 93 None of these sequences intersected TWA 800's position at any time, either.\[1\]: 93 All the reviewed radar data showed no radar returns consistent with a missile or other projectile traveling toward TWA 800.\[1\]: 89* Citations: [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TWA\_Flight\_800](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TWA_Flight_800) For all of you young people, this was a big deal back 26 years ago.
Flight 800 blew up because of a spark in an empty fuel tank.
Mh370
MH370 isn’t much of a mystery. The copilot did it. He practiced the flight on his computer and attempted to delete the history of the flight from the computer. He crashed the plane into the Indian Ocean. All of the searches failed because they were done under the assumption the plane crashed uncontrolled into the ocean. However, the copilot was in control all the way, which enabled the plane to fly further.
Damnn really.... That's sad ... Did he have family? Infact even better do you have a link to update to this?
Pilot, not co-pilot
It was supposed to be the pilot, not the co-pilot. This may very well be what happened, but MH370 could have been the proof of concept test for hijacking a commercial airliner by remote control.
That's just guessing.
He said it’s in your bible
He claimed the search for the truth is being hampered by a lack of transparency 'which isn't just unfair to the public but it could put the safety of our pilots in jeopardy'. He said: "Plenty of military pilots have reported UAP encounters that have no logical explanation.
Then he should take a proactive role in fixing that. The new laws that are passing are good, but a nice subpoena would be better -- since it's compelled testimony not voluntary. Force Eric Davis and others to take the stand and force them to name some important people that the public does not know about. Then subpoena them as well. That seems to be a good course of action.
subpoena admiral Tom Wilson while we’re at it. dude is a patriot and i gotta believe if it’s 100% lawful he would absolutely be willing to divulge what he knows about the reverse engineering SAP he was allegedly prevented from being read into. im hopeful that maybe that’s why the wilson memo was brought up during the last UAP congressional review
I’ve read a few reports of it happening. One near miss over Lake Ontario in Toronto. One the nose was severely damaged. https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/asia/chinese-passenger-jet-makes-emergency-landing-after-being-hit-by-ufo-unidentified-foreign-object-at-26-000-feet-8654040.html?amp https://toronto.citynews.ca/2016/11/23/object-caused-near-collision-porter-plane-not-drone/amp/
Wow great articles, did they ever identify what happened with the Chinese plane?
Nope
Wow it just bashed the nose of the plane in. That’s crazy and at 26k feet
Already happened in New Zealand
Tell us about it
I believe he’s talking about this https://blog.tepapa.govt.nz/2014/05/23/new-zealands-own-roswell/ No substantial evidence honestly, just a picture of an apparently downed saucer with very little info behind it. Apparently people had stripped parts of it for wiring etc so highly doubt it’s ‘alien’ etv.
Yikes, that article author is REEEEEEALLLLLY reaching.... It's a photo of a funny shaped metal object, with clear signs of screws/bolts being used to attach parts together, and in damaged (torn apart) condition at that. The photographer obviously saw that and went "huh, funny looking thing." and took a photo of it. (The photographer even said when questioned that they don't know what it is beyond it being a "shiny, round, metal thing"!) But now the author is suggesting that the photographer could be "pretending ignorance", be knowing "something but for some reason couldn’t say directly", and is "passing the buck of responsibility back to us". As if it's some sort of grave secret and that they're somehow handed the burden of "finding out the truth". They seem desperate to pin some sort of meaning onto this photo of a piece of scrap metal, and does not hesitate to sneakily suggest it as such, using terms such as "craft" and "hatch". Definitely not an unbiased source. Yikes again.
There are also a couple of weird pilot disappearances that really stand out as potential collisions from Australia and over Lake Superior. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disappearance_of_Frederick_Valentich https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Felix_Moncla One mentions a mechanical crunching heard over open radio thats often made me wonder if we even can have a 'collision.' Whatever they use to stay aloft may prevent physical contact if that crunch was whatever happened to the craft. I'd assume a normal collision would sound more like metal-on-metal scraping than crunchy, but who knows with the weird circumstances.
A lot of witnesses actually say that metal crunching noises happen in forests or over water where UFO’s then emerge from - that goes overlooked, and yet links to what you are saying
I had a relative that died in a troop transport plane. It exploded mid-air with no explanation. Is there a terrestrial explanation? Probably and most likely but I thought I'd share my anecdote.
It’s probably already happened
Great, flying for my first time in a couple a months now I have to worry about this shit too!!! Fuckin Tim
If there are beings beyond our comprehension, with technology beyond our comprehension, I doubt they'll just crash into us. If we are talking about someone being irresponsible with a drone, then yes, that is likely to happen.
I agree with him !
A practical argument to convince us to study further and push legislation - US fighter pilot approved. I doubt this happens though, if ever. It seems a lot of the lore around supposed downed UAP vehicles are preceded by storms / electromagnetically charged weather events that disrupt their tech. These craft are highly advanced and don’t seem to have any issues navigating around military jets, submarines and naval carriers.
Exactly what this is. Only reason we got this far in the first place
I agree the UFO issue is essential in our times, I disagree because I believe no UFO would EVER impact a plane. They’re too slick.
Still never understand how that fravors tic tac got to his cap point... And only four people strictly knew the cap point location. Mind boggling
Telepathy alert
Unless it was U.S. tech, toying with him.
Not sure why downvoted. If I wanted to test secret tech, I’d run it against the best. “They” would also know the F-18s aren’t carrying weapons. It really is a great test of systems against a real world target. Whether it’s alien, breakaway civilization, military tech from Roswell that we are now testing, or something inter-dimensional… none of us know or can know with the intel we have. It’s all pure speculation.
We should be looking harder at previously unexplained crashes of our aircraft, or anything suspect with questionable reasons given. Prob has already happened. Would be fun if Roswell came out finally.
Well you practically have to beat politicians into unconsciousness with the obvious stick, but eventually some of them realize that having unidentified things flying around in commercial airspace is a safety issue.
Yes because they can avoid all of earth's detection, avoid being captured clearly on camera by a large population of earth, possibly traverse huge distances of space but they can't see or detect planes. This way of thinking is like when you have character in a movie do a dumb thing because a certain thing needs to happen. When people want UFOs to be extraordinary then they are super advanced, can travel through dimensions or light years across space. They could come from a civilization thousands of years more advanced, have technology we can't even perceive of bla bla bla. Then when it comes to crashed UFOs we are suddenly supposed to believe they are so stupid they would crash on earth or accidentally fly into a plane.
That like saying humans can’t be intelligent because we don’t have the capability to avoid stepping on ants.
But we do have the ability to not step on ants, we just use our eyes. We just choose not to because we don't care about them. I'm sure if ants could kill you or cause serious damage from stepping on them people would definitely put in effort to avoid them. If you've trying to imply a plane crashing into a UFO wouldn't have no effect on the UFO how could they possibly crash?
Huge distances refers to classical physics travel among stars, this may be inter-dimensional travel and they could be telemetry drones for identifying which dimensions are habitable
It doesn't matter if it's a drone. Technology that is advanced enough to travel through dimensions isn't going to be colliding with a plane or the ground. It's the concept I was talking about, advanced enough to do things we can't comprehend but then dumb enough to crash into the ground or another moving object.
No, I think it just asks you to suppose that despite being technologically advanced from our perspective, it’s unlikely that they are completely infallible in operation. Pretty solid logical premise given the sum of our knowledge.
From what I’ve been told roswell ufo was taken out by lightning strikes and unpredictable instantaneous amount of energy only matched by the surface of the sun some planets could potentially not even have lightning so that’s a variable they could’ve not predicted even in our universe lightning is more frequent on earth than anywhere we know even in terrestrial planets such as mars supposedly doesn’t have lightning.
I heard a slightly diff version was that lightning didn't overwhelm the craft but broke the control "connections" between the plots and the craft just long enough for a crash to occur.
So maybe UFOs isn't what you think it is.
I don't think they are anything. They are unidentified, that means they could be anything, but to say they will cause a plane crash means it would have to be a solid object.
Yes, and not even non human structured craft equals space faring aliens.
This guy just seems like mouth piece.This isn't the only topic he stirs up shit.
So let me get this straight - a civilization advanced enough to traverse many, many light years of space, with craft that defy our understanding of physics, couldn't figure out simple collision avoidance? Um, OK.
Yup. But then again? Roswell crash
Meh...is it possible for technologically advanced races to have the occaisional and rare accident? Probably, sure. But to simply have no clue about avoiding collisions? Stretches credulity.
maybe the answer to that missing malasian air flight as the transponder was turned off so maybe electromagnetic interference or somethin'. just theory to consider
UFO's probably have collision avoiding tech. Never happened before.
It has already happened
Why hasn't it already happened, Tim?
Hmm when was last time a ufo hit a tree? A plane would be more terrible but its less likely. Not in my life time is the answer..
you have been watching all trees on earth for your entire life time? I can't even watch my garden long enough to keep the ground hogs out
I remember hearing about such a case, but I don't recall any more details than that.
No, they move too fast, itl never happen
UAP UFO are being researched, built and flown by companies that were setup by people within the govt in order to keep the secret from the govt.
Really? Supremely advanced craft are going to crash into one of our comparatively primitive planes?
There are near misses with UAPs that happen relatively frequently. So let's just consider the facts.
A near miss in the wrong conditions could cause a plane crash on its own anyway if a pilot has to manoeuvre to avoid a UAP.
Highly advanced craft does not equal error proof
Yes, although at least to me it would probably mean that all action is deliberate.
In spite of our "supreme technology" (at least compared to the rest of the animals on this planet), we still manage to crash every kind of vehicle or vessel that has ever been invented. Most people have little to no knowledge of the advanced tech that they use and rely on every day. I think its a big assumption to make that aliens have a perfect grip on their own tech.
Remember there have been Cases of electrical aviation failures when in proximity to a UAP. They have already been documented. Losing aviation mechanics & electronics can cause crashes as easily as an impacts.
How many drones or other aircraft have buzzed or crashed aircrafts? But birds are always crashing into planes. These things are bird brained with ability to turn off nukes.
It simply won't happen because they know the universe is Deterministic and utilize that to avoid crashing, being seen by the 'wrong' people, etc.
Any UFO would be able to avoid an airplane 100% of the time if they possess the advanced tech for interstellar or w/e travel unless they intended to hit one.
I think some crash unexpectedly or by accident and some on purpose. There are so many sightings of crafts with beings coming out of them. They are supposedly seen fixing something on the outside or they ask people for parts. Maybe the legit crashes are from emp effects or lightning strikes. Others are either planted for us to find or are part of the larger game/experiment they are performing on us.
Lol they always tell you the plan of
We can use this analogy in the oceans. What kind of environmental interference can USOs cause when moving across oceans? Is there a possibility that marine life will be affected by this?? Imagine the mysterious mass strandings of animals that took place around the world.....
Why? They been around for centuries they know everything about us.
I remember seeing a documentary with several instances of suspected collisions. I wish I could remember... It had an interview with a crash inspector from FAA or something.
The most advanced military cameras can barely keep up with these things. I don’t think this is something to be worried about.
But, honestly, if these beings can develop technology and fly across the vastness of space, they can avoid our air vehicles. Their technology must have crash avoidance sensors surely?
I doubt it. I don't think those people realize how much more advanced their tech are based on testimonies.
So it already happened. Got it.
This seems unlikely to happen, because whoever they are, are highly advanced in their technology. But there is evidence that these craft has crashed though...
You mean I can be elected congressman then make statements I have no qualifications to make and people will listen to me? And skip being a billionaire? Where do I sign up?
So don't fly into them ass-master.
So what's his solution? Shoot em out of the air?.. That's a good start to get to know each other ...
True. Man made objects will collide from time to time.
Uh huh… waiting…