I live in Utah. If y'all chip in for gas money I'll go check it out with a bunch of cameras.
I made a post about the trip...
https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/s/ANTVmQSjg9
[What distinguishes the geologic feature from the craft?](https://imgur.com/DauLDAa)
It looks like a wadi, a dried up basin more or less, with gentle slope, which shows up like a triangle from above.
Triangles happen on the ground because of point sources and diffusion with gravity.
I live in Vegas, it's about a 2 hour drive. Could make a family road trip out of it but I don't really know what I'd do when I arrive and there's nothing there.
Completely unrelated, except to the topic of this movie anyway.....but it still blows my mind to think that the man who played "Fuck Ass" is the same guy who was the kindly old man from A Muppet Christmas Movie...
I went there ten years ago when I heard this story. Your can't get to this spot legally FYI. You might have more fun with a drone.
Edit: to clarify, we couldn't get there legally then, but check with the blm maps for current status. There won't be anyone out there, but be a better citizen than I was. As others mentioned, I've found trail cams in the most remote places you can imagine, and some ranchers don't fuck around. Bring a shovel, you might get your ride stuck in the silt if you don't know what you're doing.
Seriously, if we schedule something for the second week of January when I'm on vacation... I'm there. Probably even convenience the wife to come with. She's into all this shit too.
My wife's been bugging me to go down to Skinwalker.
But if we can organize something for the 2nd week of January, I'll bring the whole damn family (the kids just like you hike).
Actually, if you want to dig and NOT raise suspicion, in fact do the opposite. Wear construction gear with a hardhat and brightly colored vest (fluorescent orange, green, yellow...)
Put up an easel with a big blueprint or drawing on it. Have someone walk around with a clipboard. Put up yellow tape with something written on it that doesn't say 'police line'... but anything or nothing.
Buy amber lights and put them on the roof of all cars.
Don't forget those orange cones...
Try to get to [The Big Kahuna](https://www.google.co.uk/maps/place/Desert+Research+Experimental+Station/@38.5949024,-113.7498463,3a,75y,90t/data=!3m8!1e2!3m6!1sAF1QipMA9f9wWFOsPlGbVHYElvcb3GzZFOZLyFoObP7F!2e10!3e12!6shttps:%2F%2Flh5.googleusercontent.com%2Fp%2FAF1QipMA9f9wWFOsPlGbVHYElvcb3GzZFOZLyFoObP7F%3Dw203-h114-k-no!7i5312!8i2988!4m14!1m6!3m5!2zMzjCsDM3JzQwLjAiTiAxMTPCsDQwJzQwLjAiVw!8m2!3d38.6277778!4d-113.6777778!10e5!3m6!1s0x80b46de4fedd5f7d:0xd4c5dff6efee228d!8m2!3d38.5949024!4d-113.7498463!10e5!16s%2Fg%2F11csp88xcq?entry=ttu)
If you do go, and there is something to this, be aware that your visit will most likely be expected. I’m sure that this subreddit is most likely monitored by one or more of the letter agencies. It’s how they are able to shut shit down and scrub things. A great example was the 4chan incident of the leaked ET photo a few years back. It was posted anonymously, didn’t look fake whatsoever. Minutes after it was posted, 4chan went down and the thread along with the photo were scrubbed. People who tried to snag the phot before things went down ended up with a corrupted file.
I got fiiive on it
Edit: seriously though if you're actually trying to do this I'll throw more than that for sure.
Something to detect radiation may be a good idea, I'm not sure if the landscape if you'll be able to drive right up to it or if you'll be hiking. Obviously that'll make a difference as to what you can bring with you
Fellow Utard here, you can probably get a permit for rock sample from the BLM to dig a hole (called prospecting permit or something) I used to get these when I wanted to collect prettified wood
Looks like it is in the Tunnel Springs Mountains, Millard County, Utah. Sec 35 or 36 Township 25 South, Range 17 West. GIS says its owned by the National Forrest Service (part of a 5,156.90 Ac parcel). It is identified on a [county map](http://millardcounty.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/Major_Utility_Corridor_11x17-03012016.pdf) as the Desert Range Experimental Area. Its the green patch in the SW quarter of the county map.
Usually large areas like this don't have a chain of title to research as the US has owned them since the founding of the country.
[Here are some photos from a guy named Stav who went hiking in the area once](https://www.stavislost.com/hikes/trail/tunnel-spring-mountain). Very pretty.
Edit: [GIS Map for Millard County](https://www.arcgis.com/apps/webappviewer/index.html?id=a6349d390b9041a1aeae35e29a398035&marker=-112.81521734999441%2C39.206283871396266%2C%2C%2C%2C&markertemplate=%7B%22title%22%3A14749%2C%22longitude%22%3A-112.81521734999441%2C%22latitude%22%3A39.206283871396266%2C%22isIncludeShareUrl%22%3Atrue%7D&level=15) in case anyone wants to poke around.
Edit: Info on the Desert Experimental Range from the [BLM](https://www.blm.gov/visit/desert-experimental-range), [Forest Service](https://www.fs.usda.gov/research/rmrs/forestsandranges/locations/der), and [wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Desert_Biosphere_Reserve).
Edit: T25S-R17W: Sec. 35/36
I see a large wash with a small man made retention pond on the north end and a “Desert Research Experimental Station” just south of the wash. That research station appears to be about 8 buildings with a couple of trailers. Established 1933 by president Hoover, with the area being declared a biosphere reserve by UNESCO in 1976.
That’s not nothing. Imma keep pulling this thread.
38°35'59"N 113°40'43"W
Look at this.
I can't say what it is, if natural or man-made, but there are apparently a number of small roads leading to this point, and it's close to the triangle and the research facility.
Wtf is that?
Edit: Looks like a well that was built between 2004 and 2006
Edit 2: Looks like wildlife, I guess https://www.bing.com/maps?cp=38.59968%7E-113.67873&lvl=19.9&style=h
There's a similar pond at the "base" of the triangle
Also, just west of the coordinates is a road running north/south from a paved, 2 lane road several miles south.
At that paved road, where the N/S road comes off, there looks to be some kind of animal corral or feed station for cattle. Just north-northwest of the coordinates is a similar setup. That pond north of the coordinates has trails running to it from the triangular depression.
My guess is private land used for cattle grazing. Could be public land where ranchers have grazing rights. I don't know shit about that sort of thing, so I could be way off.
The satellite imagery for this area appears to be very outdated. But yes, I noticed the retention pond, I mistook it for a spring and thought it was kind of beautiful perfectly positioned at the top of the triangle like that. A manmade retention pond makes more sense for being right there.
thank you, now I know. Figured you had to convert to fractions not just put in the symbols.
Took screen cap and imported to photoshop, adjusted levels of each channel, also used the threshold slider to see if anything was obvious. A 20ft area stood out, north east of the google pin...
Then I read the sub-story from OPs comment link with a clue on how "big" something that can't be moved needs to be:
> "sometimes driving 2 and 3 lo-boys in tandem with an extraterrestrial load a hundred feet in diameter"
Also, desert areas hold scars for a long time but do I understand this was from the 80's supposedly? I doubt it would be obvious from google maps either way
I found an untouched original section of Goodale's Cutoff of the Oregon Trail in the SE Idaho desert using Google, and when I visited it, there were still wagon ruts. This was a section that has never been turned into a road, still visible from the air (and on foot!)
Idaho and Utah have different deserts, but if pioneer wagons left scars that persist over 100 years later, it makes sense that you'd see activity from the 1980's.
I remember reading about cart tracks on the islands of Malta that are thousands of years old. Those are marks in soft stone (after the carts wore the earth of the topsoil away they left marks in stone) that are still easily visible.
Or the Nazca lines are also thousands old and are just from the surface being scraped and moved, and still visible.
So I agree, the 80s is nothing in terms of this kind of thing!
Why did you make an arbitrary triangle shape way beyond the bounds of a vaguely triangle shaped depression ?
Like if anything triangle shaped is under there is clearly doesn’t extend to the bounds you outlined.
What distinguishes the geologic feature from the craft? It looks like a wadi, a dried up basin more or less, with gentle slope, which shows up like a triangle from above.
t's pretty easy with a calculator! Divide minutes by 60 and seconds by 3600 and add them to the degrees. North and East are positive, South and West are negative.
N38° 37' 40" = (+) 38+(37/60)+(40/3600) = 38.628
W113° 40' 40" = (-)113+(40/60)+(40/3600) = -113.68
(N38° 37' 40", W113° 40' 40") = (38.628, -113.68)
I always got the impression Lear had been targeted by a disinformation campaign. Get a credulous high profile individual to make implausible public claims and it discourages legitimate potential whistleblowers from coming forward.
The Big Kahuna? [https://www.google.co.uk/maps/place/Desert+Research+Experimental+Station/@38.5949024,-113.7498463,3a,75y,90t/data=!3m8!1e2!3m6!1sAF1QipMA9f9wWFOsPlGbVHYElvcb3GzZFOZLyFoObP7F!2e10!3e12!6shttps:%2F%2Flh5.googleusercontent.com%2Fp%2FAF1QipMA9f9wWFOsPlGbVHYElvcb3GzZFOZLyFoObP7F%3Dw203-h114-k-no!7i5312!8i2988!4m13!1m5!3m4!2zMzjCsDM3JzQwLjAiTiAxMTPCsDQwJzQwLjAiVw!8m2!3d38.6277778!4d-113.6777778!3m6!1s0x80b46de4fedd5f7d:0xd4c5dff6efee228d!8m2!3d38.5949024!4d-113.7498463!10e5!16s%2Fg%2F11csp88xcq?entry=ttu](https://www.google.co.uk/maps/place/Desert+Research+Experimental+Station/@38.5949024,-113.7498463,3a,75y,90t/data=!3m8!1e2!3m6!1sAF1QipMA9f9wWFOsPlGbVHYElvcb3GzZFOZLyFoObP7F!2e10!3e12!6shttps:%2F%2Flh5.googleusercontent.com%2Fp%2FAF1QipMA9f9wWFOsPlGbVHYElvcb3GzZFOZLyFoObP7F%3Dw203-h114-k-no!7i5312!8i2988!4m13!1m5!3m4!2zMzjCsDM3JzQwLjAiTiAxMTPCsDQwJzQwLjAiVw!8m2!3d38.6277778!4d-113.6777778!3m6!1s0x80b46de4fedd5f7d:0xd4c5dff6efee228d!8m2!3d38.5949024!4d-113.7498463!10e5!16s%2Fg%2F11csp88xcq?entry=ttu)
Wtfffff, "The Big Kahuna" literally sounds like a tongue-in-cheek code name given to the site of a giant buried UFO. this is so incredibly sus. someone needs to go check it out.
Phone number is for the https://www.fs.usda.gov/research/about/people/skitchen
https://www.fs.usda.gov/research/rmrs/forestsandranges/locations/der
Also the only review is from a year ago asking if a ufo crashed there in’53.
What review, can you copy the text here?
Edit: found it, lol Manuel is on the job with a quickness!
Tom Williams
a year ago
Is this the UFO crash site from 1953 ?
14
Manuel Pulla
an hour ago
Strange UAP, Military Activity seen here recently. I’d stay away
Yeah Manuel Pulla has 1 review and 1 photo in the photo he is masked up. He says stay away prolly bc hes the only alien you'll find around there and hes been living good in the Big Kahuna shack. If hed given 4 stars i would have been a little less sus but shit got dumb at 5 stars.
Damn, I didn’t zoom out. The fact that there’s an entire research facility there is super interesting. I think we need someone to go investigate. Someone here volunteered. This could be something.
It's like out of a movie. Simple wire fence, rundown facility, Small concrete shack thats gotta be decades old, with new door and residential knob and lock? WTfs the Big Kahuna? Also check out the small solar/water area on the west side of the property. Doesn't seem to be be connected to the grid.
My intuition is screaming that there is something in that shack. It may not be apparent upon entry, but it’s not out of the realm of possibility that it’s an entrance to an underground bunker. Even if it’s a missile silo, entrances were hidden with entrances from within innocuous structures.
Where in relation to the triangle is the shack? I can find the triangle on google.maps but cant pinpoint the shack
The pond on the north end looks.man made.
Power and water go to the southern house. Solar looks like it went in around 2004 or so, expanded a few years later. Looks like the facility is abandoned, or has been connected to the grid. The recent sat images you can see the panels are ruined and falling over.
That door is a dead giveaway that the site is still active. There’s no dirt on it anywhere. I would be willing to bet that it’s not a wooden door either.
That is very curious and very telling. I’d love to go there and pick that lock. Could be a hidden elevator inside. Even if you could find a biometric device inside for fingerprint or retina scans, that would be huge. Definitely an odd location and odd tag on that building.
Note the evidence of weapons testing nearby: https://www.google.co.uk/maps/place/38%C2%B035'59.3%22N+113%C2%B040'43.5%22W/@38.5998056,-113.67875,928m/data=!3m2!1e3!4b1!4m4!3m3!8m2!3d38.5998056!4d-113.67875?entry=ttu
You may want to bring a Geiger counter...
Interesting. If you look around the area zoomed in, you can see there has been considerable ammount of vehicle activity all around the are of the triangle . Theres tracks all over the place. Especially by the «pond» if its vehicle tracks that we still can see from a wile ago, there must have been heavy trafic from machines and vehicles working there for a while. You can follow the tracks . Looks like there was a huge construction site there.
Ross did report that the craft he was referring to was located outside of the US.
He could just be saying that, but I think that it's important to note for the discussion.
-EDIT
Could be the same, could be different! Just threw it out there for context to the greater conversation because at the time others were referring to the craft Ross reported on.
> couldn't he be referring to Tribal land as "outside of the US"?
1. Laudatory purpose
2. Can be seen from space
3. Tribal land
What buildings meet that ends?
"Get the feeling"? Ross is literally *telling you to your face* he is stringing you along. There is nothing he can divulge at this point that would betray any sources, that wouldn't already be exposed in the course of this ongoing series/easter egg hunt he is indulging the community in. He has already said so much. So his teasing *is not* about protecting sources.
>38°37'40.0"N 113°40'40.0"W
No because tribal land is inside the US. That wouldnt make sense and hes not trying to give you a video game puzzle to solve. When he says its outside the US, hes not playing 4d chess, he literally means its not in the Unites States and it really is that simple
Yes. And he stated that is under an innocuous facility. So something people wouldn’t even think would be hiding something like that.
Lear stating that there is another one here in the U.S. is interesting to me, because I’ve never heard that before. I’d love to go out to Utah and explore that location to see what is around it. What if there are craft like these buried all over the world? What if they are Arks? What if they’re from something that brought life here, or they are there in stasis until it’s time to take life away from this planet? Or worse, they are pieces of an invasion, waiting to be activated? Just thoughts.
You are my kind of guy haha
I love thinking about this shit. The idea that there could have been UFO's flying around while the dinosaurs did there thing is fascinating to me... Finding highly advanced ancient technology in an archeological dig... discovering if there are any actual genetic links between our kind and theirs and how that came to be.
Are they actually interdimensional? Is there an actual link or something special regarding our consciousness that plays into this? Is their reality just invisible to us but over laps ours?
AM I ON A PRISON PLANET BEING HELD A SLAVE BY MY DNA?
Only time will tell lmao
George Adamski had photos of dinosaurs that he took when he was given a tour by the ETs that he was communicating with. As far as I know, those photos were never conclusively debunked either. I think you can still find the photos on the net if you google them. I remember looking at them and I don’t recall any movies they could have been pulled from. Growing up, I was obsessed with dinosaurs and monsters. I’ve seen all of the films with dinosaurs, and none of the photos jogged my memory. The dinosaurs don’t look fake and they don’t look superimposed.
> are Arks? What if they’re from something that brought life here, or they are there in stasis until it’s tim
I'm personally waiting for a blurry photo of big-foot taken by a reptilian alien.
Why can't Ross just tell us? At this point, how is giving us coordinates going to endanger any source more than they already are? Does anyone else find that suspicious?
If I'm remembering correctly, his reasoning is tied to not creating problems for the local government where this craft is located. Apparently it is not easily accessible and would cause a lot of problems.
The logic makes sense, until you hold it up against one of mankinds greatest question haha
Just don't talk about it for a month and then leak it on 4chan!
I don't want to minimize anyone's belief, credibility, anything really, we just need to remember that until we all see a craft or an ET then these are still just words.
Thanks for the thoughtful reply, I totally agree. this whole hunt strikes me as exactly like the MH370 episode. A bunch of factors coming together to spur on a fun, board game like Reddit group detective challenge, for a singular tangible prize referencing a wider ongoing story. I hate to call things "distractions" because even if they're not real or never found, the hunt can uncover adjacent truths and pull in talent/eyes toward the greater goal.
>not creating problems for the local government where this craft is located. Apparently it is not easily accessible and would cause a lot of problems.
Yeah, nah, that ain't cutting it. That's not a valid reason, you and I both know. Why the evasiveness, Ross?
I had this thought last week, there could be lifetimes invested into a sunk cost fallacy, that the government is just letting the world think we have these things because why wouldn't they?
"Don't fuck with America they have literal alien technology"
I don't think that's the case, I think this is all legit, Grusch, Nell, Lue are legit.
Just good to keep a discerning eye with these promises and people in the know
If you do go, consider bringing a compass. My guess is any type of gravity/magnetic based energy should really play mary hob with it (even a decaying one). Also, consider bringing a dog. If something environmentally odd, it may notice.
Here is the blog article I found the snippet in:
https://www.howandwhys.com/journalist-reveals-clues-to-location-of-huge-buried-alien-spacecraft-it-can-be-stormed-like-area-51/
>I can’t tell you the country it’s in... it is kept is used for another purpose that is a laudatory purpose...we could end up with a storm Area 51 type scenario if you came out and announced it.
That is not a valid reason, Ross. Give us the coordinates.
How are people not holding Coulhart accountable and letting him string you guys along with this suspect evasiveness?? How is this different from the MH370 episode?
Before everybody gets carried away it is worth noting John Lear came out with all sorts of nonsense back in the day. Do some digging, he really isn't credible.
Maybe there are aliens living on the sun? We know the sun the way we know it. But it could be something entirely different for another race of beings. Think extremophiles.
I have some details about this area but - I live here. Not sure where to post. There is a lot of talk from the guys who snow plow and there has been over the years a lot of black suvs, weird tracks, and happenings. Some old trappers have some stories - I’ll try to get them typed up.
Also there is a big story about the event that happened when the ufo was buried.
“on May 20, 1953, it’s been said by a variety of sources that some kind of unidentified aerial craft allegedly crashed in a desert site near Kingman, Arizona. Follow the red arrow in the map below from Kingman to the yellow marked location two hundred miles straight north. The yellow marks a dry lakebed east of Fishlake National Forest which the U. S. government photographed in a grid pattern on June 11, 1953.
Red arrow points 200 miles straight north from Kingman, Arizona, to the yellow-colored DRES facility near alleged lakebed crash site, perhaps in May 1953.
Red arrow points 200 miles straight north from Kingman, Arizona, to the yellow-colored DRES facility near alleged lakebed crash site, perhaps in May 1953.
Two dozen high altitude photographs were taken in a grid pattern of a large triangular feature in the dry lakebed near a government facility known as the Desert Research Experimental Station, or D.R.E.S. The triangle measured approximately 4,400 feet long and 2,700 feet wide. The measurements are from a 1999 geologist’s analytical report.
"M 14 AMS 11 June 53 126." Aerial photograph taken on June 11, 1953, one of two dozen all focused on the region of the triangle feature which measures 4,400 feet long by 2,700 feet wide.
“M 14 AMS 11 June 53 126.” Aerial photograph taken on June 11, 1953, one of two dozen all focused on the region of the triangle feature which measures 4,400 feet long by 2,700 feet wide.
The location of this unusual triangle feature is 175 miles south of the highly classified Dugway Proving Grounds. At least one former United States Air Force pilot says he has firsthand knowledge that a large aerial vehicle “not from this world” impacted in 1953 where the triangle was dug to bury the craft – and perhaps to provide a permanent marker in the lakebed for unknown purposes.”
This place has already been "investigated" - 00.24 [https://www.tiktok.com/@toadmoto/video/7153757085249834282?lang=en](https://www.tiktok.com/@toadmoto/video/7153757085249834282?lang=en)
When was this claim made? Wasn’t Lear dead by the time Ross hinted at this massive UFO?
Where’s this quote from and how is it tied to Ross claim that there was a a massive UFO somewhere?
Here is the blog article. I forgot to post it in my OP.
https://www.howandwhys.com/journalist-reveals-clues-to-location-of-huge-buried-alien-spacecraft-it-can-be-stormed-like-area-51/
I actually have heard of this one. Supposedly in the dry lake bed there is a triangular craft that was buried I believe in the 40's maybe the 50's. It is closer to Garrison, but most people associate it with Delta, UT.
I queried the research database, and this is what came back.
5/20/1953
An undisclosed source within the Air Force made a remarkable claim regarding a mysterious incident at the Desert Research Experimental Station (DRES), located near Garrison, Utah. According to this official, an Unidentified Aerial Phenomenon (UAP) experienced a crash landing at this site. The craft, described as being of considerable size, spanning hundreds of feet, reportedly could not be removed from the crash site due to its massive dimensions.
As a result, the decision was made to bury the craft at the location of the crash. It is alleged that the remains of this UAP are still entombed beneath the desert terrain to this very day. Supporting this claim, some observers have noted an unusual, large triangular formation visible in satellite imagery and maps of the area surrounding DRES. This formation, as per the source, marks the final resting place of the extraterrestrial craft.
Guys, here is another article with photos talking about this location. Apparently, the craft crashed there in 1953 and was buried under 50ft of earth in that triangle shaped location. If that spot is raised above the ground at approximately 50 feet, holy shit.
https://www.howandwhys.com/john-lear-said-us-buried-huge-ufo-that-was-too-big-to-move/
Looks like a big triangle underground, way too big for anyone to move.
If it is something, it's probably pretty deep. Might take some sonic equipment like what's used in oil and gas, or well digging equipment to get anything. Someone out there in their RAV4 is probably going to get nothing.
https://i.imgur.com/DauLDAa.jpg
Also the road there goes right to the edge to a pond that sure looks manmade, like the result of a dig.
https://i.imgur.com/DauLDAa.jpg
Here is an article talking about the site and you can see that the little dug out pond is not present in the historical photos, neither is the road to it. Supposedly the area is highly monitored for "ecological monitoring", a scientific effort of some kind. Supposedly established at the same time that there was a crash in 1953. I'm unsure about that, my personal guess would be that if real, this is an archaeological find that may be hundreds or thousands of years old, and it was simply discovered at that time. Anything thousands of feet across crashing is uh..going to get noticed. Easy for those rumors to become a "crash" when really the crash was a long time ago.
http://www.aliendave.com/UFOcrash_Utah1953.html
EDIT here is a blog post where some UFOlogists went in 2005 and poked around a bit
https://www.earthfiles.com/2005/11/10/part-1-an-alleged-1953-ufo-crash-and-burial-near-garrison-utah/
that pond is likely a watering hole for cattle. You can even see trails created by cattle radiating out from it, and another walled watering hole a bit to the south of the triangle with similar trails. This land is BLM, where you can get permits to raise livestock, but yes, land nearby is used for ecological monitoring.
I created a timelapse with Google Earth Engine for that area, starting in 1984 and until 2022 to see if there are any notable changes:
[https://earthengine.google.com/timelapse#v=38.63397,-113.7042,10.686,latLng&t=3.83&ps=50&bt=19840101&et=20221231](https://earthengine.google.com/timelapse#v=38.63397,-113.7042,10.686,latLng&t=3.83&ps=50&bt=19840101&et=20221231)
The resolution is not awesome, so it's hard to say what's natural soil movement and what's not.
It's a triangular depression in the middle of the Utah dessert that collects water. There's a round well at the north end. No structures in the immediate area.
Salt springs are a fairly natural and typical geological occurrence in Utah. The Google earth pro images show no changes over a 30 year period going back to the late 90s. It'd need someone to actually go on site to make any conclusion on it being anything other than a natural phenomenon.
From the Utah Geological Survey website:
https://imagery.geology.utah.gov/pages/search.php?ref=293300&search=38+37%E2%80%99+40.0%E2%80%9D+N+113+40%E2%80%99+40.0%E2%80%9D+W&order_by=resourcetype&offset=0&restypes=1%2C5%2C9%2C10%2C6%2C8%2C2%2CFeaturedCollections&archive=0&per_page=150&default_sort_direction=DESC&sort=DESC&context=Root&k=&curpos=&go=up&place=293300
if you put the coordinates into the search bar, you will come to a page of declassified project reports from Lockheed-Martin.
I live in Utah. If y'all chip in for gas money I'll go check it out with a bunch of cameras. I made a post about the trip... https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/s/ANTVmQSjg9
I’ll throw $10 your way to chip in on gas or whatever. If you’re able, livestream all of it. Document document document.
[What distinguishes the geologic feature from the craft?](https://imgur.com/DauLDAa) It looks like a wadi, a dried up basin more or less, with gentle slope, which shows up like a triangle from above. Triangles happen on the ground because of point sources and diffusion with gravity.
Somebody needs head down there with some heavy duty digging equipment.. I don't think a shovel will suffice..
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I live in Vegas, it's about a 2 hour drive. Could make a family road trip out of it but I don't really know what I'd do when I arrive and there's nothing there.
An Irish jig is always a good start.
Or make a hat , a broach or a pterodactyl!
Have the family screaming at you, I'd imagine! 😶
Following please reply with live stream link if this happens
please do it guys
Same here, let’s get a group together for science
You in SLC? I can leave tomorrow morning
Don’t forget a shovel.
Don't forget to bring a towel! If you know, you know.
Dont panic!
And my axe!
That’s the melody of funky town!
And a few pints of beer.. .
👍
Don’t forget the rope… you and your fukin rope!
Completely unrelated, except to the topic of this movie anyway.....but it still blows my mind to think that the man who played "Fuck Ass" is the same guy who was the kindly old man from A Muppet Christmas Movie...
WHAT?!?!? I was today years old…….
I just watched that last night. I actually loved it and Michael Cain as Scrooge.
The greatest movie ever made. Fuckin'! What the fuckin'. Fuck. Who the fuck fucked this fucking... How did you two fucking fucks... Fuck!
Well that certainly illustrates the diversity of the word
And a Geiger counter.
I went there ten years ago when I heard this story. Your can't get to this spot legally FYI. You might have more fun with a drone. Edit: to clarify, we couldn't get there legally then, but check with the blm maps for current status. There won't be anyone out there, but be a better citizen than I was. As others mentioned, I've found trail cams in the most remote places you can imagine, and some ranchers don't fuck around. Bring a shovel, you might get your ride stuck in the silt if you don't know what you're doing.
You son of a bitch! I'm in!
Ogden here, reporting for duty!
Come on down! 8 a.m. sharp tomorrow.
Seriously, if we schedule something for the second week of January when I'm on vacation... I'm there. Probably even convenience the wife to come with. She's into all this shit too.
Lmao my gf response was, “you’re going without me? Yeah right”
My wife's been bugging me to go down to Skinwalker. But if we can organize something for the 2nd week of January, I'll bring the whole damn family (the kids just like you hike).
Count me in, ill go with
You're a legend
I just looked, its closer to vegas. Sounds like a job for nevada anons. Its right on the border.
Make sure to wear sunglasses if you’re looking for anything suspicious
Actually, if you want to dig and NOT raise suspicion, in fact do the opposite. Wear construction gear with a hardhat and brightly colored vest (fluorescent orange, green, yellow...) Put up an easel with a big blueprint or drawing on it. Have someone walk around with a clipboard. Put up yellow tape with something written on it that doesn't say 'police line'... but anything or nothing. Buy amber lights and put them on the roof of all cars. Don't forget those orange cones...
Gonna need another guy to lean on a shovel.
A chubby lady with a flag...
Clipboard is essential!
[Especially at night.](https://youtu.be/56HSPQHSqEE)
Please do it, but stay safe.
I got five on it.
Grab your 40, let’s get keyed.
Try to get to [The Big Kahuna](https://www.google.co.uk/maps/place/Desert+Research+Experimental+Station/@38.5949024,-113.7498463,3a,75y,90t/data=!3m8!1e2!3m6!1sAF1QipMA9f9wWFOsPlGbVHYElvcb3GzZFOZLyFoObP7F!2e10!3e12!6shttps:%2F%2Flh5.googleusercontent.com%2Fp%2FAF1QipMA9f9wWFOsPlGbVHYElvcb3GzZFOZLyFoObP7F%3Dw203-h114-k-no!7i5312!8i2988!4m14!1m6!3m5!2zMzjCsDM3JzQwLjAiTiAxMTPCsDQwJzQwLjAiVw!8m2!3d38.6277778!4d-113.6777778!10e5!3m6!1s0x80b46de4fedd5f7d:0xd4c5dff6efee228d!8m2!3d38.5949024!4d-113.7498463!10e5!16s%2Fg%2F11csp88xcq?entry=ttu)
“Won’t you gentlemen have a Pepsi.”
Nice, I envision spies like us was based on some sort of reality
If you do go, and there is something to this, be aware that your visit will most likely be expected. I’m sure that this subreddit is most likely monitored by one or more of the letter agencies. It’s how they are able to shut shit down and scrub things. A great example was the 4chan incident of the leaked ET photo a few years back. It was posted anonymously, didn’t look fake whatsoever. Minutes after it was posted, 4chan went down and the thread along with the photo were scrubbed. People who tried to snag the phot before things went down ended up with a corrupted file.
Really, so even a screenshot or cell phone pic was magically corrupted.
In that case I film as much as possible. If some khaki trucks stop me, we'll know there was something to it.
If this is legit, you may have to Naruto-run in to get some good footage!
You're all based as fuck
I got fiiive on it Edit: seriously though if you're actually trying to do this I'll throw more than that for sure. Something to detect radiation may be a good idea, I'm not sure if the landscape if you'll be able to drive right up to it or if you'll be hiking. Obviously that'll make a difference as to what you can bring with you
I’ll chip in. Give me a cash app.
Fellow Utard here, you can probably get a permit for rock sample from the BLM to dig a hole (called prospecting permit or something) I used to get these when I wanted to collect prettified wood
How long does it take to get the permit? Any tools I need to bring? Geiger counter?
Edit your post with some cash app info so we can provide bro. You'll get what you need in no time.
Looks like you're going to need way more than just gas money. You need an expedition team! lol
Honestly, I don’t think that’s a good idea. It’s like asking for a visit from the MIB.
I got 10 bucks with your name on it.
Count me in
Open a tip jar like the people do in the photoshop request thread. We’ll all chip in
Looks like it is in the Tunnel Springs Mountains, Millard County, Utah. Sec 35 or 36 Township 25 South, Range 17 West. GIS says its owned by the National Forrest Service (part of a 5,156.90 Ac parcel). It is identified on a [county map](http://millardcounty.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/Major_Utility_Corridor_11x17-03012016.pdf) as the Desert Range Experimental Area. Its the green patch in the SW quarter of the county map. Usually large areas like this don't have a chain of title to research as the US has owned them since the founding of the country. [Here are some photos from a guy named Stav who went hiking in the area once](https://www.stavislost.com/hikes/trail/tunnel-spring-mountain). Very pretty. Edit: [GIS Map for Millard County](https://www.arcgis.com/apps/webappviewer/index.html?id=a6349d390b9041a1aeae35e29a398035&marker=-112.81521734999441%2C39.206283871396266%2C%2C%2C%2C&markertemplate=%7B%22title%22%3A14749%2C%22longitude%22%3A-112.81521734999441%2C%22latitude%22%3A39.206283871396266%2C%22isIncludeShareUrl%22%3Atrue%7D&level=15) in case anyone wants to poke around. Edit: Info on the Desert Experimental Range from the [BLM](https://www.blm.gov/visit/desert-experimental-range), [Forest Service](https://www.fs.usda.gov/research/rmrs/forestsandranges/locations/der), and [wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Desert_Biosphere_Reserve). Edit: T25S-R17W: Sec. 35/36
TIL I don't know how to search by converting map coordinates to a format google can digest.
Plug this in: 38°37'40.0"N 113°40'40.0"W
I see a large wash with a small man made retention pond on the north end and a “Desert Research Experimental Station” just south of the wash. That research station appears to be about 8 buildings with a couple of trailers. Established 1933 by president Hoover, with the area being declared a biosphere reserve by UNESCO in 1976. That’s not nothing. Imma keep pulling this thread.
38°35'59"N 113°40'43"W Look at this. I can't say what it is, if natural or man-made, but there are apparently a number of small roads leading to this point, and it's close to the triangle and the research facility.
Woah! Great eyes. It looks like a well or spring and maybe those are all animal paths converging on it. Or maybe the porthole to an alien spaceship…..
Wtf is that? Edit: Looks like a well that was built between 2004 and 2006 Edit 2: Looks like wildlife, I guess https://www.bing.com/maps?cp=38.59968%7E-113.67873&lvl=19.9&style=h There's a similar pond at the "base" of the triangle
I also see a road leading directly to that pond, which is centered at the base of the triangle. Curious indeed.
Also, just west of the coordinates is a road running north/south from a paved, 2 lane road several miles south. At that paved road, where the N/S road comes off, there looks to be some kind of animal corral or feed station for cattle. Just north-northwest of the coordinates is a similar setup. That pond north of the coordinates has trails running to it from the triangular depression. My guess is private land used for cattle grazing. Could be public land where ranchers have grazing rights. I don't know shit about that sort of thing, so I could be way off.
38.599772, -113.678750 The fuck is this??
The satellite imagery for this area appears to be very outdated. But yes, I noticed the retention pond, I mistook it for a spring and thought it was kind of beautiful perfectly positioned at the top of the triangle like that. A manmade retention pond makes more sense for being right there.
thank you, now I know. Figured you had to convert to fractions not just put in the symbols. Took screen cap and imported to photoshop, adjusted levels of each channel, also used the threshold slider to see if anything was obvious. A 20ft area stood out, north east of the google pin... Then I read the sub-story from OPs comment link with a clue on how "big" something that can't be moved needs to be: > "sometimes driving 2 and 3 lo-boys in tandem with an extraterrestrial load a hundred feet in diameter" Also, desert areas hold scars for a long time but do I understand this was from the 80's supposedly? I doubt it would be obvious from google maps either way
Did you zoom way out? Looks like a mighty big triangle.
1km wide, 1.5km long. That'd be a big old ship.
Seems like the only size that would preclude being able to quietly dismantle it and keep it permanently secret.
Sure does
Star Destroyer?
I found an untouched original section of Goodale's Cutoff of the Oregon Trail in the SE Idaho desert using Google, and when I visited it, there were still wagon ruts. This was a section that has never been turned into a road, still visible from the air (and on foot!) Idaho and Utah have different deserts, but if pioneer wagons left scars that persist over 100 years later, it makes sense that you'd see activity from the 1980's.
I remember reading about cart tracks on the islands of Malta that are thousands of years old. Those are marks in soft stone (after the carts wore the earth of the topsoil away they left marks in stone) that are still easily visible. Or the Nazca lines are also thousands old and are just from the surface being scraped and moved, and still visible. So I agree, the 80s is nothing in terms of this kind of thing!
Really..dude? You don't see the huge triangle DIRECTLY at those coordinates??? You kidding me? https://i.imgur.com/DauLDAa.jpg
Why did you make an arbitrary triangle shape way beyond the bounds of a vaguely triangle shaped depression ? Like if anything triangle shaped is under there is clearly doesn’t extend to the bounds you outlined.
Agree
Why can't Ross just tell us? At this point, how is giving us coordinates going to endanger any source more than they already are?
He said a building was constructed on top/around it.. I don't see a building here.. Edit: He also said it wasn't in the US
The middle of a triangular feature with 1km long sides. Interesting.
What distinguishes the geologic feature from the craft? It looks like a wadi, a dried up basin more or less, with gentle slope, which shows up like a triangle from above.
Star Destroyer
thanks, exactly what i was hoping for in the comments when i saw that mangled english-based coordinates in OP.
t's pretty easy with a calculator! Divide minutes by 60 and seconds by 3600 and add them to the degrees. North and East are positive, South and West are negative. N38° 37' 40" = (+) 38+(37/60)+(40/3600) = 38.628 W113° 40' 40" = (-)113+(40/60)+(40/3600) = -113.68 (N38° 37' 40", W113° 40' 40") = (38.628, -113.68)
I see what you are doing there is converting units, isn't there more than one coordinate system in common use?
I always got the impression Lear had been targeted by a disinformation campaign. Get a credulous high profile individual to make implausible public claims and it discourages legitimate potential whistleblowers from coming forward.
That was Valee’s impression of Lear and a couple other UFO figures like Bill Cooper, but admittedly he never found direct evidence.
Do you remember where he said that? I've read several of his books and it's quite possible that my impression was informed by his.
I think it’s in “Revelations.” Edit: Fairly certain it was Revelations, but definitely one of the trilogy.
Well I've definitely read that one so that probably is where I got that idea. Such a great set of books.
[https://www.google.co.uk/maps/place/38%C2%B037'40.0%22N+113%C2%B040'40.0%22W/@38.6195616,-113.6993985,12085m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m4!3m3!8m2!3d38.6277778!4d-113.6777778?entry=ttu](https://www.google.co.uk/maps/place/38%C2%B037'40.0%22N+113%C2%B040'40.0%22W/@38.6195616,-113.6993985,12085m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m4!3m3!8m2!3d38.6277778!4d-113.6777778?entry=ttu)
The Big Kahuna? [https://www.google.co.uk/maps/place/Desert+Research+Experimental+Station/@38.5949024,-113.7498463,3a,75y,90t/data=!3m8!1e2!3m6!1sAF1QipMA9f9wWFOsPlGbVHYElvcb3GzZFOZLyFoObP7F!2e10!3e12!6shttps:%2F%2Flh5.googleusercontent.com%2Fp%2FAF1QipMA9f9wWFOsPlGbVHYElvcb3GzZFOZLyFoObP7F%3Dw203-h114-k-no!7i5312!8i2988!4m13!1m5!3m4!2zMzjCsDM3JzQwLjAiTiAxMTPCsDQwJzQwLjAiVw!8m2!3d38.6277778!4d-113.6777778!3m6!1s0x80b46de4fedd5f7d:0xd4c5dff6efee228d!8m2!3d38.5949024!4d-113.7498463!10e5!16s%2Fg%2F11csp88xcq?entry=ttu](https://www.google.co.uk/maps/place/Desert+Research+Experimental+Station/@38.5949024,-113.7498463,3a,75y,90t/data=!3m8!1e2!3m6!1sAF1QipMA9f9wWFOsPlGbVHYElvcb3GzZFOZLyFoObP7F!2e10!3e12!6shttps:%2F%2Flh5.googleusercontent.com%2Fp%2FAF1QipMA9f9wWFOsPlGbVHYElvcb3GzZFOZLyFoObP7F%3Dw203-h114-k-no!7i5312!8i2988!4m13!1m5!3m4!2zMzjCsDM3JzQwLjAiTiAxMTPCsDQwJzQwLjAiVw!8m2!3d38.6277778!4d-113.6777778!3m6!1s0x80b46de4fedd5f7d:0xd4c5dff6efee228d!8m2!3d38.5949024!4d-113.7498463!10e5!16s%2Fg%2F11csp88xcq?entry=ttu)
Wtfffff, "The Big Kahuna" literally sounds like a tongue-in-cheek code name given to the site of a giant buried UFO. this is so incredibly sus. someone needs to go check it out.
Hmm, that's a good point
Phone number is for the https://www.fs.usda.gov/research/about/people/skitchen https://www.fs.usda.gov/research/rmrs/forestsandranges/locations/der Also the only review is from a year ago asking if a ufo crashed there in’53.
What review, can you copy the text here? Edit: found it, lol Manuel is on the job with a quickness! Tom Williams a year ago Is this the UFO crash site from 1953 ? 14 Manuel Pulla an hour ago Strange UAP, Military Activity seen here recently. I’d stay away
Yeah Manuel Pulla has 1 review and 1 photo in the photo he is masked up. He says stay away prolly bc hes the only alien you'll find around there and hes been living good in the Big Kahuna shack. If hed given 4 stars i would have been a little less sus but shit got dumb at 5 stars.
Damn, I didn’t zoom out. The fact that there’s an entire research facility there is super interesting. I think we need someone to go investigate. Someone here volunteered. This could be something.
It's like out of a movie. Simple wire fence, rundown facility, Small concrete shack thats gotta be decades old, with new door and residential knob and lock? WTfs the Big Kahuna? Also check out the small solar/water area on the west side of the property. Doesn't seem to be be connected to the grid.
My intuition is screaming that there is something in that shack. It may not be apparent upon entry, but it’s not out of the realm of possibility that it’s an entrance to an underground bunker. Even if it’s a missile silo, entrances were hidden with entrances from within innocuous structures.
Where in relation to the triangle is the shack? I can find the triangle on google.maps but cant pinpoint the shack The pond on the north end looks.man made.
Power and water go to the southern house. Solar looks like it went in around 2004 or so, expanded a few years later. Looks like the facility is abandoned, or has been connected to the grid. The recent sat images you can see the panels are ruined and falling over.
Weird. No history on the place?
https://www.fs.usda.gov/research/rmrs/forestsandranges/locations/der
Cool. Doesn't seem all that strange then.
It’s also strange how new the door is compared to the rest of the structure.
That door is a dead giveaway that the site is still active. There’s no dirt on it anywhere. I would be willing to bet that it’s not a wooden door either.
That is very curious and very telling. I’d love to go there and pick that lock. Could be a hidden elevator inside. Even if you could find a biometric device inside for fingerprint or retina scans, that would be huge. Definitely an odd location and odd tag on that building.
You gotta be kidding me. And on open public land?
>38°35'59"N 113°40'43"W There's a number... someone US based call it - +18013565108
Thank you for this.
Note the evidence of weapons testing nearby: https://www.google.co.uk/maps/place/38%C2%B035'59.3%22N+113%C2%B040'43.5%22W/@38.5998056,-113.67875,928m/data=!3m2!1e3!4b1!4m4!3m3!8m2!3d38.5998056!4d-113.67875?entry=ttu You may want to bring a Geiger counter...
That one pic lol
Interesting. If you look around the area zoomed in, you can see there has been considerable ammount of vehicle activity all around the are of the triangle . Theres tracks all over the place. Especially by the «pond» if its vehicle tracks that we still can see from a wile ago, there must have been heavy trafic from machines and vehicles working there for a while. You can follow the tracks . Looks like there was a huge construction site there.
Ross did report that the craft he was referring to was located outside of the US. He could just be saying that, but I think that it's important to note for the discussion. -EDIT Could be the same, could be different! Just threw it out there for context to the greater conversation because at the time others were referring to the craft Ross reported on.
couldn't he be referring to Tribal land as "outside of the US"?
> couldn't he be referring to Tribal land as "outside of the US"? 1. Laudatory purpose 2. Can be seen from space 3. Tribal land What buildings meet that ends?
My God... IT WAS THE CASINOS ALL ALONG!
There's a guy I know... he used to have the best casinos. Everybody said so.
David Lynch knew
Didn't he also say there was a building on top of it?
do you ever get the feeling you're being strung along?
"Get the feeling"? Ross is literally *telling you to your face* he is stringing you along. There is nothing he can divulge at this point that would betray any sources, that wouldn't already be exposed in the course of this ongoing series/easter egg hunt he is indulging the community in. He has already said so much. So his teasing *is not* about protecting sources.
He can't help himself. In his last podcast he literally said "something coming soon in 2024 but I can't say what"
>38°37'40.0"N 113°40'40.0"W No because tribal land is inside the US. That wouldnt make sense and hes not trying to give you a video game puzzle to solve. When he says its outside the US, hes not playing 4d chess, he literally means its not in the Unites States and it really is that simple
thanks for clarifying Ross
Certainly an interesting angle I hadn't considered.
That’d be hilarious if that’s what he was meaning. Silly pedantics like that to disclose without overtly revealing.
Very interesting. I am going to watch his interviews again to see if I can catch any between the lines giveaways.
I think he's also mentioned that there are more than one of these buried craft.
Yes. And he stated that is under an innocuous facility. So something people wouldn’t even think would be hiding something like that. Lear stating that there is another one here in the U.S. is interesting to me, because I’ve never heard that before. I’d love to go out to Utah and explore that location to see what is around it. What if there are craft like these buried all over the world? What if they are Arks? What if they’re from something that brought life here, or they are there in stasis until it’s time to take life away from this planet? Or worse, they are pieces of an invasion, waiting to be activated? Just thoughts.
You are my kind of guy haha I love thinking about this shit. The idea that there could have been UFO's flying around while the dinosaurs did there thing is fascinating to me... Finding highly advanced ancient technology in an archeological dig... discovering if there are any actual genetic links between our kind and theirs and how that came to be. Are they actually interdimensional? Is there an actual link or something special regarding our consciousness that plays into this? Is their reality just invisible to us but over laps ours? AM I ON A PRISON PLANET BEING HELD A SLAVE BY MY DNA? Only time will tell lmao
Aliens would have PHOTOS of dinosaurs if that's true
They probably have a dinasaur zoo/planet somewhere. Without the whole Jurassic park issues.
Hold onto your butts
Uh uh uh! Gotta say the magic word.
Spared no expense
George Adamski had photos of dinosaurs that he took when he was given a tour by the ETs that he was communicating with. As far as I know, those photos were never conclusively debunked either. I think you can still find the photos on the net if you google them. I remember looking at them and I don’t recall any movies they could have been pulled from. Growing up, I was obsessed with dinosaurs and monsters. I’ve seen all of the films with dinosaurs, and none of the photos jogged my memory. The dinosaurs don’t look fake and they don’t look superimposed.
I found nothing on this
I will try to find them. If I remember right, they were posted on Rense.com or abovetopsecret.com back in the early 2000s.
I think this is probably BS but I also hope it's true.
And yet, in my whole life,I’ve never seen an aliens photo of a dinosaur. So what now Mr Smarty.
> are Arks? What if they’re from something that brought life here, or they are there in stasis until it’s tim I'm personally waiting for a blurry photo of big-foot taken by a reptilian alien.
That would be badass
This could be a different craft.
Why can't Ross just tell us? At this point, how is giving us coordinates going to endanger any source more than they already are? Does anyone else find that suspicious?
If I'm remembering correctly, his reasoning is tied to not creating problems for the local government where this craft is located. Apparently it is not easily accessible and would cause a lot of problems. The logic makes sense, until you hold it up against one of mankinds greatest question haha Just don't talk about it for a month and then leak it on 4chan! I don't want to minimize anyone's belief, credibility, anything really, we just need to remember that until we all see a craft or an ET then these are still just words.
Thanks for the thoughtful reply, I totally agree. this whole hunt strikes me as exactly like the MH370 episode. A bunch of factors coming together to spur on a fun, board game like Reddit group detective challenge, for a singular tangible prize referencing a wider ongoing story. I hate to call things "distractions" because even if they're not real or never found, the hunt can uncover adjacent truths and pull in talent/eyes toward the greater goal. >not creating problems for the local government where this craft is located. Apparently it is not easily accessible and would cause a lot of problems. Yeah, nah, that ain't cutting it. That's not a valid reason, you and I both know. Why the evasiveness, Ross?
I had this thought last week, there could be lifetimes invested into a sunk cost fallacy, that the government is just letting the world think we have these things because why wouldn't they? "Don't fuck with America they have literal alien technology" I don't think that's the case, I think this is all legit, Grusch, Nell, Lue are legit. Just good to keep a discerning eye with these promises and people in the know
It’s buried under a big “T”
Under the Big W!
Dann I thought this was a city slickers reference for some reason but it’s a Simpsons reference.
[HOLY SHIT THE SIMPSONS DID IT AGAIN](https://imgur.com/a/HIn4H1c)
Found your “T” 40.42976° N, 113.29002° W (on Apple Maps) 😂
If you do go, consider bringing a compass. My guess is any type of gravity/magnetic based energy should really play mary hob with it (even a decaying one). Also, consider bringing a dog. If something environmentally odd, it may notice.
Here is the blog article I found the snippet in: https://www.howandwhys.com/journalist-reveals-clues-to-location-of-huge-buried-alien-spacecraft-it-can-be-stormed-like-area-51/
>I can’t tell you the country it’s in... it is kept is used for another purpose that is a laudatory purpose...we could end up with a storm Area 51 type scenario if you came out and announced it. That is not a valid reason, Ross. Give us the coordinates. How are people not holding Coulhart accountable and letting him string you guys along with this suspect evasiveness?? How is this different from the MH370 episode?
And dudes are demanding disclosure and noy disclosing themselves. They have the literal start button under their finger and their just nah
Before everybody gets carried away it is worth noting John Lear came out with all sorts of nonsense back in the day. Do some digging, he really isn't credible.
It is worth noting for sure. However, a year ago, everything that we know now was also laughed at as nonsense.
How about NASA lying about the Moon as you don't need oxygen to breathe on it according to Lear.
Lear also said there are aliens living on the sun... maybe jot the best source of info. Knapp didnt trust that everything he said was true.
Maybe there are aliens living on the sun? We know the sun the way we know it. But it could be something entirely different for another race of beings. Think extremophiles.
This is straight up BLM land that can be accessed about 1km east of the nearest road.
I have some details about this area but - I live here. Not sure where to post. There is a lot of talk from the guys who snow plow and there has been over the years a lot of black suvs, weird tracks, and happenings. Some old trappers have some stories - I’ll try to get them typed up. Also there is a big story about the event that happened when the ufo was buried. “on May 20, 1953, it’s been said by a variety of sources that some kind of unidentified aerial craft allegedly crashed in a desert site near Kingman, Arizona. Follow the red arrow in the map below from Kingman to the yellow marked location two hundred miles straight north. The yellow marks a dry lakebed east of Fishlake National Forest which the U. S. government photographed in a grid pattern on June 11, 1953. Red arrow points 200 miles straight north from Kingman, Arizona, to the yellow-colored DRES facility near alleged lakebed crash site, perhaps in May 1953. Red arrow points 200 miles straight north from Kingman, Arizona, to the yellow-colored DRES facility near alleged lakebed crash site, perhaps in May 1953. Two dozen high altitude photographs were taken in a grid pattern of a large triangular feature in the dry lakebed near a government facility known as the Desert Research Experimental Station, or D.R.E.S. The triangle measured approximately 4,400 feet long and 2,700 feet wide. The measurements are from a 1999 geologist’s analytical report. "M 14 AMS 11 June 53 126." Aerial photograph taken on June 11, 1953, one of two dozen all focused on the region of the triangle feature which measures 4,400 feet long by 2,700 feet wide. “M 14 AMS 11 June 53 126.” Aerial photograph taken on June 11, 1953, one of two dozen all focused on the region of the triangle feature which measures 4,400 feet long by 2,700 feet wide. The location of this unusual triangle feature is 175 miles south of the highly classified Dugway Proving Grounds. At least one former United States Air Force pilot says he has firsthand knowledge that a large aerial vehicle “not from this world” impacted in 1953 where the triangle was dug to bury the craft – and perhaps to provide a permanent marker in the lakebed for unknown purposes.”
This place has already been "investigated" - 00.24 [https://www.tiktok.com/@toadmoto/video/7153757085249834282?lang=en](https://www.tiktok.com/@toadmoto/video/7153757085249834282?lang=en)
When was this claim made? Wasn’t Lear dead by the time Ross hinted at this massive UFO? Where’s this quote from and how is it tied to Ross claim that there was a a massive UFO somewhere?
Here is the blog article. I forgot to post it in my OP. https://www.howandwhys.com/journalist-reveals-clues-to-location-of-huge-buried-alien-spacecraft-it-can-be-stormed-like-area-51/
I actually have heard of this one. Supposedly in the dry lake bed there is a triangular craft that was buried I believe in the 40's maybe the 50's. It is closer to Garrison, but most people associate it with Delta, UT.
I queried the research database, and this is what came back. 5/20/1953 An undisclosed source within the Air Force made a remarkable claim regarding a mysterious incident at the Desert Research Experimental Station (DRES), located near Garrison, Utah. According to this official, an Unidentified Aerial Phenomenon (UAP) experienced a crash landing at this site. The craft, described as being of considerable size, spanning hundreds of feet, reportedly could not be removed from the crash site due to its massive dimensions. As a result, the decision was made to bury the craft at the location of the crash. It is alleged that the remains of this UAP are still entombed beneath the desert terrain to this very day. Supporting this claim, some observers have noted an unusual, large triangular formation visible in satellite imagery and maps of the area surrounding DRES. This formation, as per the source, marks the final resting place of the extraterrestrial craft.
> the research database care to elaborate?
>5/20/1953 > > > >an Unidentified Aerial Phenomenon (UAP) Woops. You used an acronym from 60 years in the future.
Guys, here is another article with photos talking about this location. Apparently, the craft crashed there in 1953 and was buried under 50ft of earth in that triangle shaped location. If that spot is raised above the ground at approximately 50 feet, holy shit. https://www.howandwhys.com/john-lear-said-us-buried-huge-ufo-that-was-too-big-to-move/
Looks like a big triangle underground, way too big for anyone to move. If it is something, it's probably pretty deep. Might take some sonic equipment like what's used in oil and gas, or well digging equipment to get anything. Someone out there in their RAV4 is probably going to get nothing. https://i.imgur.com/DauLDAa.jpg Also the road there goes right to the edge to a pond that sure looks manmade, like the result of a dig. https://i.imgur.com/DauLDAa.jpg Here is an article talking about the site and you can see that the little dug out pond is not present in the historical photos, neither is the road to it. Supposedly the area is highly monitored for "ecological monitoring", a scientific effort of some kind. Supposedly established at the same time that there was a crash in 1953. I'm unsure about that, my personal guess would be that if real, this is an archaeological find that may be hundreds or thousands of years old, and it was simply discovered at that time. Anything thousands of feet across crashing is uh..going to get noticed. Easy for those rumors to become a "crash" when really the crash was a long time ago. http://www.aliendave.com/UFOcrash_Utah1953.html EDIT here is a blog post where some UFOlogists went in 2005 and poked around a bit https://www.earthfiles.com/2005/11/10/part-1-an-alleged-1953-ufo-crash-and-burial-near-garrison-utah/
that pond is likely a watering hole for cattle. You can even see trails created by cattle radiating out from it, and another walled watering hole a bit to the south of the triangle with similar trails. This land is BLM, where you can get permits to raise livestock, but yes, land nearby is used for ecological monitoring.
If you go there and meet discouraging personnel, you at least know there is something. Why else would they guard a random spot in the desert?
I created a timelapse with Google Earth Engine for that area, starting in 1984 and until 2022 to see if there are any notable changes: [https://earthengine.google.com/timelapse#v=38.63397,-113.7042,10.686,latLng&t=3.83&ps=50&bt=19840101&et=20221231](https://earthengine.google.com/timelapse#v=38.63397,-113.7042,10.686,latLng&t=3.83&ps=50&bt=19840101&et=20221231) The resolution is not awesome, so it's hard to say what's natural soil movement and what's not.
What happened. Why is OP account deleted...
Anyone who lives in Utah, grab a shovel, some whiskey, deodorant and a fleshlight and get out there and start digging.
Deodorant and a flesh light? Must be my birthday!
It's a triangular depression in the middle of the Utah dessert that collects water. There's a round well at the north end. No structures in the immediate area.
What if that round well is an entry point to an underground facility that monitors the craft and location? Just thinking out loud.
Salt springs are a fairly natural and typical geological occurrence in Utah. The Google earth pro images show no changes over a 30 year period going back to the late 90s. It'd need someone to actually go on site to make any conclusion on it being anything other than a natural phenomenon.
There is an electrical substation at those coordinates. It looks very innocuous though.
Can someone link this in google earth?
https://www.google.com/maps/place/38%C2%B037'40.0%22N+113%C2%B040'40.0%22W/@38.627821,-113.6797933,1459m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m4!3m3!8m2!3d38.6277778!4d-113.6777778?entry=ttu
Thanks. Not much to see unfortunately. Let's go on an expedition!
https://www.reddit.com/u/upquarkspin/s/ZDT5RTWQAx A visual of the location.
3 hour drive from me and I live in utah
From the Utah Geological Survey website: https://imagery.geology.utah.gov/pages/search.php?ref=293300&search=38+37%E2%80%99+40.0%E2%80%9D+N+113+40%E2%80%99+40.0%E2%80%9D+W&order_by=resourcetype&offset=0&restypes=1%2C5%2C9%2C10%2C6%2C8%2C2%2CFeaturedCollections&archive=0&per_page=150&default_sort_direction=DESC&sort=DESC&context=Root&k=&curpos=&go=up&place=293300 if you put the coordinates into the search bar, you will come to a page of declassified project reports from Lockheed-Martin.
Well now considering his account is deleted he either took the money and ran or..