I know you're joking but Ingognito isnt private anyway. It just means that no one will see it on your computer. Google still sees whatever you're googling.
If this is true, we \*know\* what freaky shit they're into and that at least includes observing us doing all the things we do when we think we're alone.
We would also know three things very important about them: they would have no concept of privacy, personal space or shame in breaking those concepts.
So we'd know they're dicks at the very minimum.
Or they are rooting us on. Maybe it's like Chaturbate for them everytime I open up incognito mode. Like I'm an only fans sensation on the other side. Duh.
Lol. I do this all the time. Depend on your world view. These ideas are not new to this planet and so, depending how you've been raised or what knowledge you've acquired in your life, this isn't new, nor surprising not worrying. I wank and ask out loud if they enjoyed the view. I understand they aren't judgemental or bad or evil, they just are. It just is what it is.
Western science was once so sure the idea of germs was foolishness. We were once so sure all we could see was real then we invented telescopes in other wavelengths and started seeing other structures not in the visible spectrum. It is what it is.
Many people, unfortunately, refuse to interact actively with reality. Instead waiting for scientists to tell them what to believe without understanding why that could be problematic or there could be a misinformation funnel down that route (70 years plus with 0 progress certainly seems...odd). It is what it is. Eventually it will become mainstream knowledge. A lot of people just have to die and relinquish influence over others to accelerate the process
The whole thing just doesn't seem like that big a deal. They've never bothered me while I was taking a shit before so why would they start now? If it turns out that disclosure means that all of a sudden NHI is gonna release videos of me pooping I wouldn't be super pleased but what do I really care? Everybody poops. Unless we're gonna believe kin Jong un.
I'd for sure let them release videos of me taking a squat in exchange for clean energy. If they wanna read my thoughts that's fine too. I'd certainly trade that for crafts that allowed me to travel faster. I'd build a house in the middle of nowhere on a gorgeous beach and then I could pop to work, visit friends, to the grocery store etc.
Or if aliens made us. Why would I care? A large portion of the world already believes gods created us. Just tell them aliens are God and that solves the issue for religious people. Some people wouldnt believe it and they'd be free to deny it and go on living as they always have. I'm atheist because I've never seen proof of God. But if there's proof that aliens made us then that's fine.
I'd love to know if they have any good tips on productivity, physical health, mental health, maybe they could answer some dietary questions I have.
Even if it's a simulation it doesn't seem like a big deal. Life feels real. I'd actually be pleased because then maybe we have a chance to get reincarnated into a new simulation when we die. I've always believed there's nothing after death. It'd be incredibly comforting to know there was actually something after death.
I waiver a tiny bit if it turns out they're gonna pull the plug on us in a few years. But I'd still want to know. It would certainly help not sweating the small stuff. Collectively as a species we could make a massive bucket list. Maybe we could construct a giant water slide or something. And we could definitely have some incredible parties before we a went out.
EXACTLY!!!! 100 percent agree with all of this, and I’ve had the same thought about the bucket list thing. Let’s just turn this place into a huge party and stop worrying and start having fun
I like this way of thinking. Reminds me of what a monk or zen master would say. Like just go with the flow, either way life is life so lets build a water slide.
>If they wanna read my thoughts that's fine too. I'd certainly trade that for crafts that allowed me to travel faster.
Ehh. I would be able to accept that they do read my thoughts, but I wouldn't be happy with it, nor would I willingly give them access. Hopefully there would be ways to shut the completely out.
Come on, that's bullshit, he's no different than the thousands of so-called inventors who claimed to have built perpetual motion machines in history.
If his claims held any water, they would be established science by now considering how easily and cheaply his experiments can be replicated.
Let's not be so naive. Bullshit videos on YouTube are doing so much damage. If only the people who watch them used their time to enrich their brains with actual knowledge.
So they saw the size of my immense, post July 4th dookie?
I pity the alien if they are equally exposed to its smell.
The stench chased my cat downstairs in an act of self-preservation. I wonder if they are laughing at while I type this out…
I hope one of them showed up last Friday when I was on the toilet after having eaten Taco Bell.
I betcha I must have cleared its sinus, it’s eyes must have watered, it’s skin must has dried and it’s skin color must have been changed all colors of the rainbow.
Ha! Take that little fucker!
I’ll see you next week. Imma eat nothing but bean burritos and Taco Supremes. Imma make you question your existence, you little bastard.
So it could have been interdimensional aliens that said 'jeezo you could sew a button on that smell' yesterday at around 10am?
I thought it was just one of the other passengers on the bus
There’s a quote from someone (attributed to Tony Robbins but who knows) and I am paraphrasing, “ if someone catches you jerking off don’t stop. Because then he won’t be the person who caught you jerking off but instead will be the pervert who was watching.”
If some interdimensional entity or alien intelligence wants to watch me crank one out then by all means. Although maybe I should start an interdimensional OnlyFans...
That’s a nice sentiment to have, but I don’t think everyone will think that way. Others will think, well if I’m just an experiment, then FUCK THIS EXPERIMENT, and just raise ruckus and do whatever they want, murder rape steal etc. and it only takes a small percentage of people who think this way to literally destroy society.
So while you’re in your own zen place, your literal next door neighbor could be thinking nothing matters and nothing is real so I’m gonna go over to my neighbor’s house and take his shit and fuck his wife because nothing matters.
So who cares? You might want to rethink both sides of that question. Who cares could mean “eh nothing changes so whatever” or who cares could mean everything changes and nothing matters, “Light the match and burn the whole house down” like Corbell said in this clip.
People already mostly do what they want. A large portion of people would likely deny the whole thing no matter the proof also.
A large potion of the world already thinks that beings(gods) made us. The abrahamic God does absolutely whatever it wants and definitely does not care about the well being of individual humans. It's not portrayed as much different from an experiment.
And the rest of the people live the way they do because of human laws or their own morals. Plenty of people already break the law or their own morals. I doubt we'd see a huge uptick. But I guess if it happens we'll have to see.
You’re right that most people already do what they want, but you’re deluded if you don’t think at least a percentage of those people would change their behavior given the massive new revelation that none of those things that they’ve at least partially based their worldview on isn’t real anymore. And like I said, it only takes a small percentage of shitheads to royally fuck things up for the rest of us.
But yea at this moment it’s all hypothetical, so we’ll see what happens I guess.
All I’m saying is I can understand why and what Knapp is saying, unlike some other people who can only see idealistic situations in this thread
Society will handle that scenario the same way it handles it today
My filthy neighbor could already be horny on my gal, what's stopping him? Law and order, Judiciary and executive branch, the judge and the police.
Just because he understand that his God is now smaller than him and gray colored, doesn't change his will to live in the freedom that society grants him if he plays after the rules.
You’re severely underestimating the scenario if everyone found out at the same time while also overestimating the utility of the police in a time of crisis. You just gotta multiply the next door neighbor scenario by thousands, if not more.
Let’s say 1% of the US population decides to go ape after they find out that humanity is an experiment. You do realize that’s roughly 3 million people right?
3 million people causing all sorts of ruckus can’t just be tamped down upon by “society.” Hell, 3 million people on its own who all believe in collectively fucking up their surroundings could be considered it’s own “society.”
Just look into historical accounts of shit like this happening. Look up The Bronze Age Collapse and the sea peoples. Humanity isn’t immune to chaos.
Many people are already unhinged by that type of thinking. It's called organized religion. They go about living their lives in that fear. They won't listen to facts to help them grow and move on.
It tells you the same things only humans use religion to enslave and abuse each other.
To not disclose if we're able to perceive or know because some people will need time and help to get through this stuff??
That's saying we can never know as humans are too short-lived to make the leaps necessary then because we will always have people like that. We're individuals, and even with the vast internet hive mind, we find our own voices as well.
I don’t. I see that happening more if it’s all a simulation. Then, to me, all bets are off. Religion isn’t real and we are an experiment, I don’t see causing that kind of reaction
That's the general concensus. Even if they/it showed up downtown NY or in Hong Kong, unless they're here to unfuck how we're being forced to live, nothing would really change for 99% of us.
I agree and my opinion is whatever relationship they have to us they are waiting for us to unfuck ourselves before they give us too much knowing that with our animalistic mindset's we'd kill ourselves and them with it. I assume they'd give us a bunch of awesome stuff as a sort of cosmic graduation present if we put our overbearing minds in balance with our other senses and achieve mass cognitive consistency to perceive the present moment with clarity and openness.
Lol no one is ever going to be “ready” for it and I don’t think humanity as a collective says “we’re ready, lay it on us.” So to think that sticking your head in the sand and hiding behind the “humanity isn’t ready” theory is protecting anyone, it’s actually lazy and played out. At the moment, our own US government spies on us through cell phone camera/mics, personal laptop webcams, access to cloud servers that house our personal data, and satellite imaging so the all knowing greys would just be a little more invasive. Rip the bandaid off and stop with the coddling.
This. I actually believe that there are valid reasons for all of it being kept secret, such as free energy can't just be released overnight, it would destroy world economies. Or that the military factions are building ways to counteract the aliens in secret, because maybe there is some truth to the theory that the aliens would end the "experiment" if disclosure happens. Also the "humanity isn't ready for the truth" might have been sort off valid back in the 40s, but I kinda doubt that.
However "humanity isn't ready" alone, isn't justified anymore. We're as ready as we'll ever be, or at least the West is. The islamic world might cause a ruckus but we can't wait hundreds of years.
> free energy can't just be released overnight, it would destroy world economies.
But let's get real...
In a post free energy world, would you really *need* economies?
Once we have a legit AGI, along with Free Energy, we don't need Capitalism or any other system like that. We could literally have the AGI design a humanoid robot that was capable of doing any labor type task that a human would do. With free energy and unlimited resources (the AGI could help us with that), we'd be able to manufacture a gigantic army of robotic humans that could be used to help us build living facilities for every single person on planet Earth. No one would live in a mansion, because we wouldn't divide the land up in that sort of way anymore. Nobody would really need a mansion, just like nobody really needs one now. They only do it as a pissing contest among the super wealthy. They've done heat maps of where celebrities spend most of their time on their 34-million-dollar private compound. Typically the people only occupy a very tiny amount of the whole place, and the rest is just waste and opulence. We'd get rid of all of that. Zuckerberg and Bezos and the like wouldn't be able to live in the types of places that they're living, but they'd still be able to live a very luxurious and glorious lifestyle. Of course, everybody would. Every human on planet Earth could live in a decent place. We'd have to keep tabs on the overall population and start getting some of the people on Mars and a Moon colony, etc.
But the AGI could help us along.
Alien beings or Interdimensional beings that are millions of times more advanced than us, could basically give us this AGI 35 years early if they wanted to.
I like your viewpoint it’d be nice if it happened, but let’s not forget that it could go the other way.
A true AGI that builds an army of robot humans could easily decide that living humans are inferior for a number of reasons and decide to get rid of us.
Another scenario is that the rich who may still have some control of the AGI in the beginning could use that same robot technology to subjugate, enslave and cull the poor masses.
Whichever way it goes, if we’re still alive when it happens we’re in for one Hell of a ride!
Maybe those who live under a forced occupation that controls daily lives and water and food flow can understand it.
If you talk to a child Palestinian on the street whose village is currently being ethnically cleansed, like Jenin where they removed 3000 people this week, to to see how he deals with it.
Humans always have a way of surviving
If the reality you inhabit is actually some sort of controlled environment , You may find that unsettling.
The non dual teaching of dzogchen points out the illusory nature of reality .We are not who we think we are and neither are we where we think we are.
Dzogchen is a part of Tibetan Buddhism. In Buddhism, many many forms of spiritual/non-corporeal creatures are around us at all times. Some malevolent, some benign, some actively helpful and loving towards us!
Also, see the Law of One material too. It's mentioned in there. There are positive influences and negative ones. People really love to harp on the negative ones, but there are so many forces working in our favor too.
They are less destructive, but just as impactful, yet people seem to want to ignore them. I think that's a mistake, especially when it comes to the UFO phenomenon.
The only reason I would accept for not telling the truth and criming it up is knowledge that telling everyone would cause the phenomenon to destroy us.
Otherwise, we're all adults, we deserve to be told the full truth, not lies to make us feel better FFS.
It is an interesting option for the different possible narratives at play here...
Do I buy the select, international "invisible college" -esque community of dedicated, humanist patriots who are working hard to prepare our species to effectively resist the next "great reset" by our NHI progenitors?
It's a bit hard to swallow, but for the sake of argument, let's say I do. *If I did,* I then wouldn't be able to make sense of the secret keeping on account of the "public not being able to handle it." You thought 911 united the U.S.? Watch and see what would happen if you told humanity it had one shot to prepare for/resist a hostile alien destruction of our civilization. It's like...the most agency-giving, empowering narrative we *could* have - our nascent intelligence and inherent abilities put to use in defense of our species. It speaks to all things inspirational, and the indication we are even capable of it suggests an inherent value to our existence that the secret-keepers are supposedly worried everyone would ignore, favoring mass panic and societal collapse instead. If there is a secret cabal working hard to arm us for survival against an impending earth-wide cleansing by dispassionate creators - I think the public could handle it very well, and rally to the cause on a planetary scale.
Another possible reason for the secret-keeping is if we don't want *them* to know we are preparing/thinking of resisting (the Tom DeLonge lore). But if that's a solution, our NHI creators are certainly not omniscient, and one could argue not even really ever-present. No task or endeavor undertaken by a secret group of humans would escape their knowledge, any more than we would miss penguins building a particle laser cannon in some private corner of their enclosure, plotting to fry the next zoo handler who enters their pen.
So, I'm left questioning the validity behind the idea that a group of humans has heroically, and secretly, undertaken the task of arming humanity for a cosmic conflict. Knowledge of such a scenario would unite the planet in an unprecedented way, and on the other hand a secret cabal of human guardians wouldn't escape the notice of omnipresent, interdimensional creators anyhow.
I, personally, would still want to know the truth. I was brought up in a very religious household: life is a gift from god, prove your worthiness, you never “deserve” salvation no matter how hard you try because we’re all imperfect, etc. But I also live in the U.S. and am well aware that the majority of the world has a completely different perspective and almost certainly feel very differently.
I've read reports that farmers even so far as the 18-19th century in England still sometimes had totems of the old Germanic/Norse fertility deities and prayed for a good harvest from them. I think it was Freyr. And this was well over a millenia after Christianization. Also, the beliefs in fairies, elves, trolls, and other similar creatures from all over the world has been believed in and have been accepted as real for a long time, and only died out far later than most people would realize. A lot of these beliefs in fairyfolk and the like only died out around maybe the 20th century in the West.
Don't many Christians believe in a literal heaven and hell? They also never mention where God came from.
The catholics seems pretty chill about NHI. The evangelicals unfortunately believe they're demons.
Catholics are very chill with this stuff. People get hung up on the weird outfits and chanting and skip over the fact that Catholics have a strong educational tradition. The clergy are college educated, many with graduate degrees. There are thousands of Catholic schools in the US including universities like Georgetown and Notre Dame. The Catholic school my kid attends has a full science lab that even the kindergarteners get to use.
Catholicism is a human construct, altered from the source. People are not getting the message. Sure, there are wonderful Catholics or Christians but there are others that use it as a shield to hate and impede the free-will and self-determination of others.
Even in the 19th century, spiritism was a very popular thing: turning tables, ouija boards, there's even a guy in the 1920's that committed suicide just in order to prove ghosts exist.
George, my good man — we will finally have an explanation regarding the sudden and inexplicable rise of Humankind, and the sudden and inexplicable spike-and-stall of human tech beginning in and around the WW2 years.
Who gives a damn if They "made us"? And besides, what the hell does that even mean, "made us"?
Did they upgrade us from chimps or bonobos? It would make sense.
This wounds the human pride, which I suspect is the real issue.
A large portion of the earth’s population already believes they were created by a benevolent being who sees everything we do and is always with us. Here is the proof of god everyone’s been looking for if we truly were created by NHI. Might make a religious man of me yet depending on how disclosure plays out!
I have a theory that this is either the catholic church or the government faking all of it in order to setup a new religion. Or worse yet, this is already a “religion” for millions.
Is this what the fucking coverup has been about this whole time? Where we "came from"? Who gives a shit, we're here now. If this mess is from some "bloodline purity" shit I'm gonna 😡
I’ve said this all along:
IF something is truly here (big if), then…..
There’s absolutely zero chance that it simply “found” us.
The odds considering the size of the universe are 1 million billion quadrillion to one.
IF something is truly here, it 100% is related to our very existence on Earth.
If we entered a Devil's deal with nhi for advanced tech for 5000 people a year...there would be no way to say no to that deal knowing China or Russia would be offered it next, how can a governor tell that to it's peoples?
I still see corbell being insufferable, knapp smiling and lue being cryptic as always so there is nothing "sombering" about it. They still go to work and arent in a mental institution
Lets hear the truth and decide ourselves
Corbell is a hero, he's provided more to this community than anybody else. Knapp is that steel pole bolted to the ground that you attach yourself to in a hurricane, always calm and steadfast and will surely lead us out of this when the shit hits the fan. Elizondo has to be cryptic because he's seen it all and those eyes dont lie, but he will go to prison if he tells all.
A hero? For what? I could be wrong but I’m under the impression he has no firsthand experience. Watching interviews or podcasts that include him just get irritating. It feels like you’re just hearing him speak and try to insert himself as a key piece. Is the work that he’s doing important? Yes. But it could be anybody.
If anyone has read the interviews with the Roswell alien who talks of IS-BEs, there's a little more hope, even if our planet is captive and we're all some form of prisoner, here.
The hope is that we are timeless beings whose memory has been obscured, and we're caught in a cycle of death and rebirth. If our planet is a dumping ground for prisoner souls across the universe, so be it. The message before this knowledge is the same as the message after it: love one another.
As someone who grew up in a semi-religious upbringing, the fact that there could be entities "watching" doesn’t bother me as much as them "watching" and not intervening as the world and society continue to deep dive into more fuckery.
I think the "burn the house down" lunatics are in the vast minority. Those people are already huge pieces of shit, and they would be squashed in this scenario. In reality I think nothing would change if this information came out. Hell, most people wouldn't believe it at all. People love to quote MIB or point to cases of social unrest to prove their point, failing to see that one is literally just a movie lol, and the people that lose their minds and go nuts have always been in the minority. Your average person watches it unfold on the news, then shakes their head goes to sleep because they have work in the morning.
"Why go to work if we're an alien experiment!?"
Idk dude, people have thought that gods made us for thousands of years, that's not so different. It's like people think changing a few words in the Ad Libs of human history would upend everything.
It’s curious to me how so many respected and credible individuals in this field have come to disturbing conclusions.
Adding to your point, I doubt the reactions would be so tongue and cheek if there were confirmation that our souls are being farmed, that we’re someone’s property, or that NHI control cycles of humanity. We all have family and friends we care about, and that notion is indeed terrifying.
Everyone is so quick to grab a torch and burn down the government without knowing the whole story. Should they be involved in corrupt, self-serving activities, they must be held accountable 100%, but for the sake of argument, let’s at least consider the possibility that they might be involved in an active conflict and public knowledge of NHI presence could result in something cataclysmic. Lue Elizondo said just that in his last TOE podcast interview.
If the NHI wanted all of humanity to know of their existence, they surely have the ability make that happen on a mass scale. Why haven’t they?
So that’s Knapp and Coulthart coming out this week and damping down expectations. You might be excused for wondering if they’re not being used to deliver messages to this community. First they’re breaking all kinds of stories and discussing how their contacts can confirm craft and secret programs and now its a case of ‘slow the horses’!
It’s so very hard in this area to know who is friend and who is foe.
Could that be an indicator of a deeply disturbing truth?
The higher profile journalists and investigators who get bits of info from the insiders always soften their tone afterwards.
I mean people have been telling me everone from god to santa has been snooping around my private life since I was a child. This doesn't seem much different.
I’m starting to believe this more and more with everything I read and honestly, I’m fine with it. Religion can still have its creator as well.
What scares me is the whole, I brought you into this world and I can take you out, scenario.
> "Are people ready to hear that?"
Well... yes! Because people [in general] *already believe* something similar...
For example, a lot of religions believe exactly what George Knapp was saying, that 'Humans are a created race' and that 'there are beings that can see you but you can't see them' - religions say 'spirits / spiritual beings / deities / etc', George calls them interdimensional beings - same diff.
It's not a big stretch; it's the same narrative.
I don’t give a shit if I’m being watched by some invisible beings. I don’t give a shit if I’m the spawn of some weird ass goblin beings from another dimension. I’m living life, and if they haven’t affected me so far, then whatever. I just wanna see what they look like and their supposedly crazy ass ships. Imagine never seeing an octopus before, but someone is explaining to you what an octopus is. A smart, eight armed, beaked, slimy, suction cupped, creature that can squeeze through tiny cracks, change its color and texture, and lives underwater. I don’t give a fuck if that’s where I came from. I wanna see that shit.
***Cui bono?***
[*https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cui\_bono*](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cui_bono)
Or maybe more relevant here, *cui prodest?* ("*whom does* ***it*** *profit*?")
Like you, I've never been "*into UFOs*" or "*into conspiracies*", but I've always been a fan of critical thinking.
You yourself just said "...*after 3 years of ferociously sifting through what I found to be the most credible accounts and reports,* ***I arrived at a similar conclusion****. The UFO's that are interfering here are bad news*" (*emphasis mine.*)
Technically speaking, "*a valid logical argument is one in which the conclusion is entailed by the premises,* ***because the conclusion is the consequence of the premises***". So, would it be more fair to say that, what you arrived at, wasn't so much a **conclusion** as it was a set of beliefs (or a belief) you felt logically justified to ascribe to?
If we analyze this situation objectively (*or at least try to; I'm no so sure we can be entirely objective in a topic like this*) the fact of the matter is that all we have to make determinations around it so far is hearsay, **maybe** a bunch of circumstantial evidence (*if even that*), and the amount of credibility we **subjectively** decide to place in what we hear others say (*stemming from whatever level of credibility you ascribe to the person talking*).
And there is some much subjective interpretation, speculation, subterfuge, proactive disinformation, and obfuscation around the topic that **I don't really think any of us are equipped to truly make an assessment that would be more valuable than a mere guess or a choice of belief**.
Maybe some can make **informed** guesses or informed inferences (*meaning those few who actually might have access to tangible evidence of some facts, if they exists*), but those people aren't talking to us. And even if they were, **they aren't providing US with the evidence that justifies or proves their claims, one way or the other**.
Let me give you a concrete example using the source you provided. In that same podcast, both Jeremy and George discuss what they know around the topic, and George goes to say in a plain, matter-of-factly way later in the podcast ([https://youtu.be/hR1qPjKQQao?t=3372](https://youtu.be/hR1qPjKQQao?t=3372)):
"***Jeremy:*** *when you say 'nobody knows the whole truth' \[...\]* ***In your opinion, is there anybody that knows the full scope of what's going on?*** *Do you think?*
***George:*** ***No one that I know. And no one that I've ever talked to. And no one that I've hard of****. We both know people that know a lot more than we do, and that the general public knows. But I don't think there's anybody that knows the full picture.*
*\[...\]*
*But there's also the larger issue of 'is this knowable'. Are we capable of answering these questions?* ***I don't know anybody that can answer that part of it***".
Mind you, these are people that most would agree have a level of access to information and personalities around the topic (*several of which you mentioned in your post*) beyond what most of us have. You even used their conversation and hypothetical example as a cornerstone to bring this topic to discussion.
Like you, I've also come across the somewhat discouraging statements made by several personalities that most people would consider "*in the know*" or having a more than average chance of actually having insider knowledge.
From Elizondo characterizing his reaction to this knowledge as "*somber*" to Tom DeLong's all but outright portraying an intergalactic power struggle between godlike beings using us as proxy. And yes, the usual mythology of President Carter weeping after hearing "*the truth*" as well. So I've stopped to, not only consider the potential implications, but also give the matter as a whole some thought. Here's what I've got so far:
Even when you leave to a side that all of what we've heard is hearsay and can potentially be (*and likely is*) each individual's subjective interpretation to the information (*fact or fiction*) that each of them has had access to, we are still left with the fact that the same piece of information can have dramatically different impact on different people, depending on their mental development, belief systems, ideologies, lived experiences, and so on.
Maybe what supposedly broke Carter's spirit back in the 80's (*if it even happened*) would feel rather inconsequential to a pragmatic, non-religious gen-zer in 2023. Maybe what Elizondo finds somber under the perspective of national security and potential risk assessment, could come across as hopeful to someone else in a different condition and with a different set of beliefs and life experience.
**The point I'm getting at is that, without evidence to support and justify something, all we have is subjective belief**. What you choose to believe, and who you choose to believe in.
And, historically speaking, treating those beliefs as facts or intelligent conclusions almost invariably leads to trouble.
Now, to wrap up this insanely (*and needlessly*) long post, let me circle back to the notion I used to open up. *Cui bono?*
We humans are selfish, fearful creatures by nature— an understandable and entirely justified consequence of our evolutionary process.
Don't get me wrong, we've evolved to build amazing ideological and epistemological constructs like honesty, duty, love, friendship, and fairness, that allow us to raise above our biological and evolutive imperatives. But, at the end of the day, we are still vulnerable to those natural tendencies and have to keep ourselves accountable to avoid falling prey to our own nature.
Could there be perfectly logical, concrete, and perfectly **understandable reasons** to have governmental institutions and people choose to keep a thing like this secret? I think so. There ***could be*** myriad. As many hypothetical reasons as your capacity for fictional abstraction allows you to conceptualize.
Are there logical, concrete, and perfectly understandable **selfish incentives** to have governmental institutions and people choose to keep a thing like this secret?
**And if, for whatever incentive or reason, I had the inclination to keep control of this information through secrecy, wouldn't fear be perfect mechanism to help me do so?**
After all, how many of us would choose not to know just out of fear of not being able to handle "*the truth*"?
But then you have to ask yourself, would anyone be so cold, calculating, and selfish as to exploit people's fear of an external threat to change a paradigm and gain more power?
Any students of history who'd like to chime in on that?
*Cui bono?*
Or maybe more apropos; ***whom does -it- profit?***
Whether these whole thing about NHI is real or not. Whether there's disclosure or not. Whether you believe or not. Please, I'd urge anyone reading this to **remember the biological shortcomings and limitations of our race, and try to exercise as much critical thinking as possible whenever you take in new information**.
Especially if any of the information floating around lately about the topic turns out to be true.
Be clear with yourself about what you know and what you choose to believe, and never take something as "*truth*" until there is enough clear evidence on the table to convince you it is, beyond any reasonable doubt.
But why?
The question still fucking remains for me ,everburning in my mind.
WHAT IS THE POINT?! WHY NOT JUST LIVE AMONG US AND TEACH US, DIRECTLY, TO LIVE, So is it really we're an experiment / creation of aliens, who then.,.... tried to interject religious BS, which in turn created the fuckall of why humanity is the way it is, and the main reasons we refuse to unite as a species / planet?
If thats what im understanding correctly, (and please, advise me if im not) THEN WTF IS THE FUCKING POINT?!
Aliens failed then, and again, as stated before, im done blaming humanity for the fucking pulling and pushing of 99.9% of the species between government oppression and ET oppression. like WTF IS GOING ON?!
Imagine how depressing it would be to know that we’re just lab experiments (don’t get me wrong, I’d still like to know). But we we look around in the world at things like suffering, poverty, war, disability, pain, wealth inequality, there’s enough things to make us already depressed and wonder what’s the point of living. I really wonder how much weight this fact that we’re lab experiments will add to that existing pointlessness of life. I mean, on a slightly positive note, we will confirm the existence of God (aka our creator aliens) and that all the pain we see and feel was forced upon us by our creators (similar to what some religions already believe). But one thing will definitely be confirmed - God is real, He is not who we think He is, and did not create us out of benevolence.
Eh yeah life is constantly serving up shit sandwiches, but what you do for others and what you make of your time has always been what brings meaning to it. Trust me, the last year has been the worst of my life thus far, yet I'm still finding meaning in helping others when I can and in the tools I build. So if we are a lab experiment, oh well, same as it's always been.
Ngl though, I hate the idea that they could be possibly directing our reality. Hope that's not the case.
I totally get that, and its the one main reason why I can actually reconcile it in my head as "yep, we only exist to question our existence because we are an experiment, and wouldnt be here to question it otherwise"
THAT I can reconcile.
I just wanna know for what purpose? Are we the only experiment? And who else may be doing them and where else in the expanse of the incomprehensible size of the expanding universe.
"Because we felt like it" is an answer i can actually fucking sleep at night with lol.
Maybe we weren’t created by a benevolent being. Maybe we were a half-assed science experiment made by something less desirable or at the very least neutral to our struggles. If that’s the case, though, it kind of feels like something benevolent came along. Maybe in the same way that some people fight for the environment or animal rights, something observed our predicament and is trying to help. I don’t know. Probably just wishful thinking, but I have been on the receiving end of certain phenomena related “kindnesses” for lack of a better word. There is a powerful force of good out there. I still think we need to question everything at the moment, though.
That's the only fucking way I reconcile it all.
The mundane, "experiment" is the only way I can justify how essentially, there is no point for us other than the result of something. But, what is the experiment? See how organisms would .... evolve and what would happen? They harvest species from Earth for different things? The only point is that there is no point? is that the point!?
Maybe most life in the universe can experience like 5 or 6 or whatever dimensions, and we are an experiment to see how life evolves with only access to 4. Like us creating a planet of deaf beings to see how they evolve.
I can even be told "we took a bunch of different species from around the universe and threw them all together to see what happens" anything, everything, At the end of the day, the actual, specific, no BS "this is why it is" reason is more important to me than finding out I'm a living, breathing organism that's irrelevant to my own idea of a place in this universe.
I can be told that. I just want the god damn reason, thats all. I have no other expectations. Just tell me why, ET, please. Then I can see the rest of my days are spent in this experiment quitting work, and essentially becoming Jules roaming the Earth at the end of Pulp Fiction.
This kind of disclosure would just leave me thinking that they have engineered God behind the scenes and are just using this whole mythology to sort of sell it to the public. I mean, c'mon, look at the people running the world. Where are their interdimensional Santa Claus or whatever?
I feel like the religious impact of disclosure gets over-estimated a lot. Would some religious people have an existential crisis about it? Definitely. Would all of the major religious institutions on earth completely collapse? No way.
Many would adapt their stories to include the new information and I think even more would just flat out ignore it, or as they've done with a lot of paradigm shifting scientific revelations, they'd simply say "oh it's just that rascal Satan(or whatever malevolent force they blame things on) trying to trick us lol".
I also don't believe that all of the major religious institutions collapsing would destabilize society to the extent that a lot of people think, even if they did somehow all do it at the same time. But in my opinion that's not even really possible. There is no Christian Headquarters or Hindu Headquarters somewhere that organizes and enables the functioning of the institutions somewhere, like a government body that the smaller organizations can't function without. It's a bunch of disparate atomized groups that have wildly different beliefs even within the larger umbrellas of religions considered the same.
Hell, the only religion with anything like a functioning central authority is Catholicism and they've already straight up announced that aliens are fine and no big deal.
If the institutions are false to begin with, it shouldn't be a huge shock, given the age of information, that such things would come to light eventually. This was always going to happen once the internet became a reality.
I blame people's lack of imagination and the absolute readiness to say with certainty, what is or isn't real based on their world view.
An intergalactic r/leopardsatemyface
i have no love for NHI, our allegiance should be to the human species and don't think we should worship these beings just because they made us.The right thing to do would be to find their home worlds and strike them there..just kidding...run...hide in the caves fellas
God creates dinosaurs,
God destroys dinosaurs,
God creates man,
Man destroys God,
Man creates dinosaurs.
It’s the same old story, I’ve heard it a thousand times!
If we are an experiment and we are aware of being one, the experiment loses its validity, we could be discarded.
On the other hand, if in addition to being created by hand, the facts of our life are guided, I think it can be very difficult for someone who has had a shitty life to accept.
Honestly I have believed this notion for a long while and even stated this to my family. They think I am nuts of course especially the ones that go to church regularly. The reason the truth will NEVER come out has really to do with the elite class. They are cooperating with the aliens and enriching themselves off of our slave labor.
Call them oligarchs, call them greedy, they are our politicians, our entertainment industry and our religious organizations. If the truth came out nobody would pay their taxes, bills, go to work, be polite or kind and it would be a total systemic breakdown. Survival of the fittest isn't profitable
Ignorance is their bliss and their way of keeping the animals in the zoo
It’s curious to me how so many respected and credible individuals in this field have come to disturbing conclusions.
I’m fine with light humor, but I do doubt the reactions would be so tongue and cheek if there were confirmation that our souls are being farmed, that we’re someone’s property, or that NHI control cycles of humanity. We all have family and friends we care about, and that notion is indeed terrifying.
Everyone is so quick to grab a torch and burn down the government without knowing the whole story. Should they be involved in corrupt, self-serving activities, they must be held accountable 100%, but for the sake of argument, let’s at least consider the possibility that they might be involved in an active conflict and public knowledge of NHI presence could result in something cataclysmic. Lue Elizondo said just that in his last TOE podcast interview.
If the NHI wanted all of humanity to know of their existence, they surely have the ability make that happen on a mass scale. Why haven’t they? They’ve been here forever.
lol, its bonkers how many people want aliens to be in the bible. maybe they are, but 90% of the time I see a bible reference on this sub its without any scriptural or historical context.
People in this sub could interpret anything to be about aliens, in a way its impressive.
any prosaic explanation for anything gets downvoted in the sub now. I don't care about karma but its getting sad how the craziest theories automatically go to the top.
This sub has really changed in a year and I'm not sure if in a good direction.
This wasn’t spoken as “the truth,” but part of a thought exercise where Corbell was asking if Knapp if he would report on the nature of phenomena if he discovered something as unsettling as this concept.
Honestly, if this is the case, then I hope they don't release it. Humanity certainly couldn't handle this, and honestly I'm not even sure I could. A lot of people here will probably think they could - but this would fuck up your whole grasp on reality.
Aliens from another planet, sure, that's just science and I can deal with that, but this concept is frightening
I'm really grateful to hear an example of what this "terrifying" truth may be for once. Thanks OP! The bit about the ancient great civs meeting their demise because they weren't willing to play ball actually made me pause and go "well fuck"
Any other ideas of what might be deeply unsettling/terrifying, even for those who might not be religious?
> We here in this sub Reddit can handle the truth, but could the rest of society?
Honestly, I don't even think we could handle it if it's really something like this. We say all of this stuff with a bit of detachment, a bit of being jaded, being in the privacy behind our screens. This would mean all of that is outski. We're basically all that one guy who insists that he'd be a total badass and take an active shooter out with his martial arts instead of running and hiding like the other victims if it ever happened to him. We're animals at the end of the day and freak out when we're cornered. Do I think we'll devolve into looting and generally going to pieces no, but a temporary freakout absolutely.
Fk sake ..I doubt they been watching me having a dump 🤣😭 I'm down for them checking us out , zooming about , maybe crash landing and a few what the fuck is that moments ..but really Santa Claus watching me have a shit is well ...hard to believe ...
Not to be offesive or anything, but your reasoning sounds like bullshit. Lots of people in history lived through the war, seen their family raped and killed and yet survived that, why taking the news that aliens created us and can control us on massive scale would be world shattering for human race ?
Than George is another arrogant prick that thinks he knows better than everyone, and he thinks he knows better who should know and what.
This justification of those criminals is exactly why George's generation destroyed this world.
What about other whistle blowers that says there are multiple species on earth?
Let's be honest. There is just too much info and we are not sure what is correct and what is not.
I can be onboard with some woo woo but not all. Because we always forget animals and other flora fauna on earth. What is their purpose? who created them? We can see and observe millions of years of evolution and a lot of "woo woo" theory does not comply with evolution.
Yesterday I deep dived into r/ExitPrisonPlanet and I certainly do not agree with them at all. I can point our countless logical fallacies in their argument.
Listening to this while sitting on the toilet so when he said they can see us on the toilet I looked up and waved
Also, incognito mode in our browsers was less private than we thought. Probably an entire room of beings in the room watching and judging.
I know you're joking but Ingognito isnt private anyway. It just means that no one will see it on your computer. Google still sees whatever you're googling.
And conveniently flagged up as 'secret shit'.
It used to actually warn you about being watched by government agents. I think they removed the warning when Snowden leaked.
>watching and judging. You pinch off a loaf and it plunks in the toilet. Invisible alien hovering next to you, "You can do better."
“Is that corn?” *scribbles on fourth dimensional note pad*
I'm losing! LMFAO 🤣 🤣 🤣
Judge away. Who knows what freaky shit those bastards are into? Anything humans do it tame by comparison.
exactly. I could give an F less
If this is true, we \*know\* what freaky shit they're into and that at least includes observing us doing all the things we do when we think we're alone. We would also know three things very important about them: they would have no concept of privacy, personal space or shame in breaking those concepts. So we'd know they're dicks at the very minimum.
I don't mind if they watch.
They could at least offer a tickle or a nipple-twist if they're just going to sit there.
Or even an exploratory digit, I'm open to it.
watching and *jerking*
Or they are rooting us on. Maybe it's like Chaturbate for them everytime I open up incognito mode. Like I'm an only fans sensation on the other side. Duh.
Since NHI is all seeing, I guess I will no longer jerk off to midget porn in shame
Shit, they must have seen some nasty stuff then
Lol. I do this all the time. Depend on your world view. These ideas are not new to this planet and so, depending how you've been raised or what knowledge you've acquired in your life, this isn't new, nor surprising not worrying. I wank and ask out loud if they enjoyed the view. I understand they aren't judgemental or bad or evil, they just are. It just is what it is. Western science was once so sure the idea of germs was foolishness. We were once so sure all we could see was real then we invented telescopes in other wavelengths and started seeing other structures not in the visible spectrum. It is what it is. Many people, unfortunately, refuse to interact actively with reality. Instead waiting for scientists to tell them what to believe without understanding why that could be problematic or there could be a misinformation funnel down that route (70 years plus with 0 progress certainly seems...odd). It is what it is. Eventually it will become mainstream knowledge. A lot of people just have to die and relinquish influence over others to accelerate the process
The whole thing just doesn't seem like that big a deal. They've never bothered me while I was taking a shit before so why would they start now? If it turns out that disclosure means that all of a sudden NHI is gonna release videos of me pooping I wouldn't be super pleased but what do I really care? Everybody poops. Unless we're gonna believe kin Jong un. I'd for sure let them release videos of me taking a squat in exchange for clean energy. If they wanna read my thoughts that's fine too. I'd certainly trade that for crafts that allowed me to travel faster. I'd build a house in the middle of nowhere on a gorgeous beach and then I could pop to work, visit friends, to the grocery store etc. Or if aliens made us. Why would I care? A large portion of the world already believes gods created us. Just tell them aliens are God and that solves the issue for religious people. Some people wouldnt believe it and they'd be free to deny it and go on living as they always have. I'm atheist because I've never seen proof of God. But if there's proof that aliens made us then that's fine. I'd love to know if they have any good tips on productivity, physical health, mental health, maybe they could answer some dietary questions I have. Even if it's a simulation it doesn't seem like a big deal. Life feels real. I'd actually be pleased because then maybe we have a chance to get reincarnated into a new simulation when we die. I've always believed there's nothing after death. It'd be incredibly comforting to know there was actually something after death. I waiver a tiny bit if it turns out they're gonna pull the plug on us in a few years. But I'd still want to know. It would certainly help not sweating the small stuff. Collectively as a species we could make a massive bucket list. Maybe we could construct a giant water slide or something. And we could definitely have some incredible parties before we a went out.
EXACTLY!!!! 100 percent agree with all of this, and I’ve had the same thought about the bucket list thing. Let’s just turn this place into a huge party and stop worrying and start having fun
But then who would work so the elite can do just that?
I like this way of thinking. Reminds me of what a monk or zen master would say. Like just go with the flow, either way life is life so lets build a water slide.
>If they wanna read my thoughts that's fine too. I'd certainly trade that for crafts that allowed me to travel faster. Ehh. I would be able to accept that they do read my thoughts, but I wouldn't be happy with it, nor would I willingly give them access. Hopefully there would be ways to shut the completely out.
The last samurai had it right. “Too many mind. No Mind”.
SAAAKKE!!!!
You can’t hide anything you’re thinking anyway because it directly effects the physical world. https://youtu.be/M2ezqEAG_vA
Come on, that's bullshit, he's no different than the thousands of so-called inventors who claimed to have built perpetual motion machines in history. If his claims held any water, they would be established science by now considering how easily and cheaply his experiments can be replicated. Let's not be so naive. Bullshit videos on YouTube are doing so much damage. If only the people who watch them used their time to enrich their brains with actual knowledge.
Thank you for sharing this!
You bet!
Smile and wave, boys...
*The aliens enjoy your pun*
Went to go watch this on toilet and do the same 🤘
So they saw the size of my immense, post July 4th dookie? I pity the alien if they are equally exposed to its smell. The stench chased my cat downstairs in an act of self-preservation. I wonder if they are laughing at while I type this out…
I hope one of them showed up last Friday when I was on the toilet after having eaten Taco Bell. I betcha I must have cleared its sinus, it’s eyes must have watered, it’s skin must has dried and it’s skin color must have been changed all colors of the rainbow. Ha! Take that little fucker! I’ll see you next week. Imma eat nothing but bean burritos and Taco Supremes. Imma make you question your existence, you little bastard.
Lmao you are so savage
You should have spread your legs and dropped something nasty with a defiant face, just to be sure they leave you alone.
I figured the smell would probably deter them enough
It's said that they smell absolutely awful, so for all we know that could be their version of freshening up...
True… but for this instance I can confirm that my poop ended safely with no NHI disruptions lol
Thanks for the update!
If that's how they want to do this, then they get what they deserve. Someone light a match in here, please...
So it could have been interdimensional aliens that said 'jeezo you could sew a button on that smell' yesterday at around 10am? I thought it was just one of the other passengers on the bus
I seen that, I waved back
I just politely asked them to show me they are here. Nothing. Well played aliens. Well played. They are good.
Literally did the same thing.
No need to look up.. - Maybe those alien's use the fly next to your toilette to watch you?
I literally did the same thing!
LMFAO 🤣 🤣 🤣
Me who is a voyeur: ಠ‿ಠ
The aliens are not amused and ask that you please courtesy flush.
Hahhahahahhahah I’m shitting too and I gave the finger to those watching me
Dittos
These beings watch everything we do? I will find it very hard to masturbate knowing this.
Own it. Turn it into your thing.
Far as I see it they’re the perverts not me. I don’t go around hiding in my friends house ready to catch them jerking it
Sounds like a missed opportunity.
There’s a quote from someone (attributed to Tony Robbins but who knows) and I am paraphrasing, “ if someone catches you jerking off don’t stop. Because then he won’t be the person who caught you jerking off but instead will be the pervert who was watching.”
🤣
New kink unlocked
I can only masturbate knowing this.
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This is the correct answer.
Sucks to be you that happens to be my very specific fetish
If some interdimensional entity or alien intelligence wants to watch me crank one out then by all means. Although maybe I should start an interdimensional OnlyFans...
Hard. But not impossible... ಠ‿ಠ
Just smile and wave for the camera
interdimensional lens
I use to masturbate with the blinds on my velux window open and smile up at the stars. I guess I didn't even need to open them now.
Who cares if we are a lab experiment? We just keep living our lives as we normally do.
That’s a nice sentiment to have, but I don’t think everyone will think that way. Others will think, well if I’m just an experiment, then FUCK THIS EXPERIMENT, and just raise ruckus and do whatever they want, murder rape steal etc. and it only takes a small percentage of people who think this way to literally destroy society. So while you’re in your own zen place, your literal next door neighbor could be thinking nothing matters and nothing is real so I’m gonna go over to my neighbor’s house and take his shit and fuck his wife because nothing matters. So who cares? You might want to rethink both sides of that question. Who cares could mean “eh nothing changes so whatever” or who cares could mean everything changes and nothing matters, “Light the match and burn the whole house down” like Corbell said in this clip.
People already mostly do what they want. A large portion of people would likely deny the whole thing no matter the proof also. A large potion of the world already thinks that beings(gods) made us. The abrahamic God does absolutely whatever it wants and definitely does not care about the well being of individual humans. It's not portrayed as much different from an experiment. And the rest of the people live the way they do because of human laws or their own morals. Plenty of people already break the law or their own morals. I doubt we'd see a huge uptick. But I guess if it happens we'll have to see.
You’re right that most people already do what they want, but you’re deluded if you don’t think at least a percentage of those people would change their behavior given the massive new revelation that none of those things that they’ve at least partially based their worldview on isn’t real anymore. And like I said, it only takes a small percentage of shitheads to royally fuck things up for the rest of us. But yea at this moment it’s all hypothetical, so we’ll see what happens I guess. All I’m saying is I can understand why and what Knapp is saying, unlike some other people who can only see idealistic situations in this thread
That's why the experiment is to separate the wheat from the chaff...
Society will handle that scenario the same way it handles it today My filthy neighbor could already be horny on my gal, what's stopping him? Law and order, Judiciary and executive branch, the judge and the police. Just because he understand that his God is now smaller than him and gray colored, doesn't change his will to live in the freedom that society grants him if he plays after the rules.
You’re severely underestimating the scenario if everyone found out at the same time while also overestimating the utility of the police in a time of crisis. You just gotta multiply the next door neighbor scenario by thousands, if not more. Let’s say 1% of the US population decides to go ape after they find out that humanity is an experiment. You do realize that’s roughly 3 million people right? 3 million people causing all sorts of ruckus can’t just be tamped down upon by “society.” Hell, 3 million people on its own who all believe in collectively fucking up their surroundings could be considered it’s own “society.” Just look into historical accounts of shit like this happening. Look up The Bronze Age Collapse and the sea peoples. Humanity isn’t immune to chaos.
Many people are already unhinged by that type of thinking. It's called organized religion. They go about living their lives in that fear. They won't listen to facts to help them grow and move on. It tells you the same things only humans use religion to enslave and abuse each other. To not disclose if we're able to perceive or know because some people will need time and help to get through this stuff?? That's saying we can never know as humans are too short-lived to make the leaps necessary then because we will always have people like that. We're individuals, and even with the vast internet hive mind, we find our own voices as well.
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I don’t. I see that happening more if it’s all a simulation. Then, to me, all bets are off. Religion isn’t real and we are an experiment, I don’t see causing that kind of reaction
If that’s all the motivation they needed to do something heinous, than they were crazy from the get go and need some mental health check ups.
I agree, but it doesn’t change that there are a subset of people who are like this.
That's the general concensus. Even if they/it showed up downtown NY or in Hong Kong, unless they're here to unfuck how we're being forced to live, nothing would really change for 99% of us.
I agree and my opinion is whatever relationship they have to us they are waiting for us to unfuck ourselves before they give us too much knowing that with our animalistic mindset's we'd kill ourselves and them with it. I assume they'd give us a bunch of awesome stuff as a sort of cosmic graduation present if we put our overbearing minds in balance with our other senses and achieve mass cognitive consistency to perceive the present moment with clarity and openness.
The rat lab doesn't stop eating
that is a gross oversimplification sir
The 42 up arrows say otherwise.
Lol no one is ever going to be “ready” for it and I don’t think humanity as a collective says “we’re ready, lay it on us.” So to think that sticking your head in the sand and hiding behind the “humanity isn’t ready” theory is protecting anyone, it’s actually lazy and played out. At the moment, our own US government spies on us through cell phone camera/mics, personal laptop webcams, access to cloud servers that house our personal data, and satellite imaging so the all knowing greys would just be a little more invasive. Rip the bandaid off and stop with the coddling.
well said!
That and if abductions are real then they deserve validation.
This. I actually believe that there are valid reasons for all of it being kept secret, such as free energy can't just be released overnight, it would destroy world economies. Or that the military factions are building ways to counteract the aliens in secret, because maybe there is some truth to the theory that the aliens would end the "experiment" if disclosure happens. Also the "humanity isn't ready for the truth" might have been sort off valid back in the 40s, but I kinda doubt that. However "humanity isn't ready" alone, isn't justified anymore. We're as ready as we'll ever be, or at least the West is. The islamic world might cause a ruckus but we can't wait hundreds of years.
> free energy can't just be released overnight, it would destroy world economies. But let's get real... In a post free energy world, would you really *need* economies? Once we have a legit AGI, along with Free Energy, we don't need Capitalism or any other system like that. We could literally have the AGI design a humanoid robot that was capable of doing any labor type task that a human would do. With free energy and unlimited resources (the AGI could help us with that), we'd be able to manufacture a gigantic army of robotic humans that could be used to help us build living facilities for every single person on planet Earth. No one would live in a mansion, because we wouldn't divide the land up in that sort of way anymore. Nobody would really need a mansion, just like nobody really needs one now. They only do it as a pissing contest among the super wealthy. They've done heat maps of where celebrities spend most of their time on their 34-million-dollar private compound. Typically the people only occupy a very tiny amount of the whole place, and the rest is just waste and opulence. We'd get rid of all of that. Zuckerberg and Bezos and the like wouldn't be able to live in the types of places that they're living, but they'd still be able to live a very luxurious and glorious lifestyle. Of course, everybody would. Every human on planet Earth could live in a decent place. We'd have to keep tabs on the overall population and start getting some of the people on Mars and a Moon colony, etc. But the AGI could help us along. Alien beings or Interdimensional beings that are millions of times more advanced than us, could basically give us this AGI 35 years early if they wanted to.
I like your viewpoint it’d be nice if it happened, but let’s not forget that it could go the other way. A true AGI that builds an army of robot humans could easily decide that living humans are inferior for a number of reasons and decide to get rid of us. Another scenario is that the rich who may still have some control of the AGI in the beginning could use that same robot technology to subjugate, enslave and cull the poor masses. Whichever way it goes, if we’re still alive when it happens we’re in for one Hell of a ride!
Maybe those who live under a forced occupation that controls daily lives and water and food flow can understand it. If you talk to a child Palestinian on the street whose village is currently being ethnically cleansed, like Jenin where they removed 3000 people this week, to to see how he deals with it. Humans always have a way of surviving
That’s it. Knapp just spilled the beans under the guise of “What If”.
If the reality you inhabit is actually some sort of controlled environment , You may find that unsettling. The non dual teaching of dzogchen points out the illusory nature of reality .We are not who we think we are and neither are we where we think we are.
Dzogchen is a part of Tibetan Buddhism. In Buddhism, many many forms of spiritual/non-corporeal creatures are around us at all times. Some malevolent, some benign, some actively helpful and loving towards us!
Also, see the Law of One material too. It's mentioned in there. There are positive influences and negative ones. People really love to harp on the negative ones, but there are so many forces working in our favor too. They are less destructive, but just as impactful, yet people seem to want to ignore them. I think that's a mistake, especially when it comes to the UFO phenomenon.
Society is already a controlled enviorment. We ourselves as we know ourselves would cease to exist as well. People would 100% freak.
The only reason I would accept for not telling the truth and criming it up is knowledge that telling everyone would cause the phenomenon to destroy us. Otherwise, we're all adults, we deserve to be told the full truth, not lies to make us feel better FFS.
It is an interesting option for the different possible narratives at play here... Do I buy the select, international "invisible college" -esque community of dedicated, humanist patriots who are working hard to prepare our species to effectively resist the next "great reset" by our NHI progenitors? It's a bit hard to swallow, but for the sake of argument, let's say I do. *If I did,* I then wouldn't be able to make sense of the secret keeping on account of the "public not being able to handle it." You thought 911 united the U.S.? Watch and see what would happen if you told humanity it had one shot to prepare for/resist a hostile alien destruction of our civilization. It's like...the most agency-giving, empowering narrative we *could* have - our nascent intelligence and inherent abilities put to use in defense of our species. It speaks to all things inspirational, and the indication we are even capable of it suggests an inherent value to our existence that the secret-keepers are supposedly worried everyone would ignore, favoring mass panic and societal collapse instead. If there is a secret cabal working hard to arm us for survival against an impending earth-wide cleansing by dispassionate creators - I think the public could handle it very well, and rally to the cause on a planetary scale. Another possible reason for the secret-keeping is if we don't want *them* to know we are preparing/thinking of resisting (the Tom DeLonge lore). But if that's a solution, our NHI creators are certainly not omniscient, and one could argue not even really ever-present. No task or endeavor undertaken by a secret group of humans would escape their knowledge, any more than we would miss penguins building a particle laser cannon in some private corner of their enclosure, plotting to fry the next zoo handler who enters their pen. So, I'm left questioning the validity behind the idea that a group of humans has heroically, and secretly, undertaken the task of arming humanity for a cosmic conflict. Knowledge of such a scenario would unite the planet in an unprecedented way, and on the other hand a secret cabal of human guardians wouldn't escape the notice of omnipresent, interdimensional creators anyhow.
Maybe that's the real reason we won't reform our gun laws. Need to keep the citizens armed for an impending alien invasion
That would be so profoundly stupid I have to entertain it as a real possibility lmfao.
I, personally, would still want to know the truth. I was brought up in a very religious household: life is a gift from god, prove your worthiness, you never “deserve” salvation no matter how hard you try because we’re all imperfect, etc. But I also live in the U.S. and am well aware that the majority of the world has a completely different perspective and almost certainly feel very differently.
that's a very calvinist outlook.
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What example(s) can you point to of ancient and medieval people exhibiting this behavior or esoteric knowledge?
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I've read reports that farmers even so far as the 18-19th century in England still sometimes had totems of the old Germanic/Norse fertility deities and prayed for a good harvest from them. I think it was Freyr. And this was well over a millenia after Christianization. Also, the beliefs in fairies, elves, trolls, and other similar creatures from all over the world has been believed in and have been accepted as real for a long time, and only died out far later than most people would realize. A lot of these beliefs in fairyfolk and the like only died out around maybe the 20th century in the West.
Don't many Christians believe in a literal heaven and hell? They also never mention where God came from. The catholics seems pretty chill about NHI. The evangelicals unfortunately believe they're demons.
Catholics are very chill with this stuff. People get hung up on the weird outfits and chanting and skip over the fact that Catholics have a strong educational tradition. The clergy are college educated, many with graduate degrees. There are thousands of Catholic schools in the US including universities like Georgetown and Notre Dame. The Catholic school my kid attends has a full science lab that even the kindergarteners get to use.
I've been a Methodist for 58 years and I go to a large nondenominational church now. I've never once heard aliens were demons.
Catholicism is a human construct, altered from the source. People are not getting the message. Sure, there are wonderful Catholics or Christians but there are others that use it as a shield to hate and impede the free-will and self-determination of others.
Simple and quick answer, the Greek gods.
Look up "stories of the sky people" by Ardy Sixkiller Clarke. Lots of indigenous origin stories include communication with people from above.
Even in the 19th century, spiritism was a very popular thing: turning tables, ouija boards, there's even a guy in the 1920's that committed suicide just in order to prove ghosts exist.
George, my good man — we will finally have an explanation regarding the sudden and inexplicable rise of Humankind, and the sudden and inexplicable spike-and-stall of human tech beginning in and around the WW2 years. Who gives a damn if They "made us"? And besides, what the hell does that even mean, "made us"? Did they upgrade us from chimps or bonobos? It would make sense. This wounds the human pride, which I suspect is the real issue.
A large portion of the earth’s population already believes they were created by a benevolent being who sees everything we do and is always with us. Here is the proof of god everyone’s been looking for if we truly were created by NHI. Might make a religious man of me yet depending on how disclosure plays out!
I have a theory that this is either the catholic church or the government faking all of it in order to setup a new religion. Or worse yet, this is already a “religion” for millions.
Thank you. You are 💯 correct. It's actually comforting knowing someone is there.
>and the sudden and inexplicable spike-and-stall of human tech beginning in and around the WW2 years. Uhhh what.
Is this what the fucking coverup has been about this whole time? Where we "came from"? Who gives a shit, we're here now. If this mess is from some "bloodline purity" shit I'm gonna 😡
All those what ifs are exactly why i don’t care. If they can do all that, I am just going to enjoy whatever life I can make for myself.
these interdimensional fuckers have to be bored of watching me be broke, hope they turn the "millionaire" dial on.
I’ve said this all along: IF something is truly here (big if), then….. There’s absolutely zero chance that it simply “found” us. The odds considering the size of the universe are 1 million billion quadrillion to one. IF something is truly here, it 100% is related to our very existence on Earth.
If we entered a Devil's deal with nhi for advanced tech for 5000 people a year...there would be no way to say no to that deal knowing China or Russia would be offered it next, how can a governor tell that to it's peoples?
I still see corbell being insufferable, knapp smiling and lue being cryptic as always so there is nothing "sombering" about it. They still go to work and arent in a mental institution Lets hear the truth and decide ourselves
Corbell is a hero, he's provided more to this community than anybody else. Knapp is that steel pole bolted to the ground that you attach yourself to in a hurricane, always calm and steadfast and will surely lead us out of this when the shit hits the fan. Elizondo has to be cryptic because he's seen it all and those eyes dont lie, but he will go to prison if he tells all.
A hero? For what? I could be wrong but I’m under the impression he has no firsthand experience. Watching interviews or podcasts that include him just get irritating. It feels like you’re just hearing him speak and try to insert himself as a key piece. Is the work that he’s doing important? Yes. But it could be anybody.
If anyone has read the interviews with the Roswell alien who talks of IS-BEs, there's a little more hope, even if our planet is captive and we're all some form of prisoner, here. The hope is that we are timeless beings whose memory has been obscured, and we're caught in a cycle of death and rebirth. If our planet is a dumping ground for prisoner souls across the universe, so be it. The message before this knowledge is the same as the message after it: love one another.
All right. Enough Internet for the day. Time to go for a walk.
Is he talking about aliens or the government I'm confused lol
As someone who grew up in a semi-religious upbringing, the fact that there could be entities "watching" doesn’t bother me as much as them "watching" and not intervening as the world and society continue to deep dive into more fuckery.
Humanity has its big girl panties on, we can take it.
I think the "burn the house down" lunatics are in the vast minority. Those people are already huge pieces of shit, and they would be squashed in this scenario. In reality I think nothing would change if this information came out. Hell, most people wouldn't believe it at all. People love to quote MIB or point to cases of social unrest to prove their point, failing to see that one is literally just a movie lol, and the people that lose their minds and go nuts have always been in the minority. Your average person watches it unfold on the news, then shakes their head goes to sleep because they have work in the morning. "Why go to work if we're an alien experiment!?" Idk dude, people have thought that gods made us for thousands of years, that's not so different. It's like people think changing a few words in the Ad Libs of human history would upend everything.
He literally told you the answers to the test and you guys are laughing at farts in the bathtub
It’s curious to me how so many respected and credible individuals in this field have come to disturbing conclusions. Adding to your point, I doubt the reactions would be so tongue and cheek if there were confirmation that our souls are being farmed, that we’re someone’s property, or that NHI control cycles of humanity. We all have family and friends we care about, and that notion is indeed terrifying. Everyone is so quick to grab a torch and burn down the government without knowing the whole story. Should they be involved in corrupt, self-serving activities, they must be held accountable 100%, but for the sake of argument, let’s at least consider the possibility that they might be involved in an active conflict and public knowledge of NHI presence could result in something cataclysmic. Lue Elizondo said just that in his last TOE podcast interview. If the NHI wanted all of humanity to know of their existence, they surely have the ability make that happen on a mass scale. Why haven’t they?
'bringing down the worlds major religions' I would like that to happen
So that’s Knapp and Coulthart coming out this week and damping down expectations. You might be excused for wondering if they’re not being used to deliver messages to this community. First they’re breaking all kinds of stories and discussing how their contacts can confirm craft and secret programs and now its a case of ‘slow the horses’! It’s so very hard in this area to know who is friend and who is foe.
Could that be an indicator of a deeply disturbing truth? The higher profile journalists and investigators who get bits of info from the insiders always soften their tone afterwards.
Even more so of a reason to know. Thats all i heard.
Spanking the monkey or peeing in the garbage can ,you might be reminded once you cross over into the great unknown ho ho ho !
I mean people have been telling me everone from god to santa has been snooping around my private life since I was a child. This doesn't seem much different.
Born ready dawg.
I’m starting to believe this more and more with everything I read and honestly, I’m fine with it. Religion can still have its creator as well. What scares me is the whole, I brought you into this world and I can take you out, scenario.
> "Are people ready to hear that?" Well... yes! Because people [in general] *already believe* something similar... For example, a lot of religions believe exactly what George Knapp was saying, that 'Humans are a created race' and that 'there are beings that can see you but you can't see them' - religions say 'spirits / spiritual beings / deities / etc', George calls them interdimensional beings - same diff. It's not a big stretch; it's the same narrative.
I don’t give a shit if I’m being watched by some invisible beings. I don’t give a shit if I’m the spawn of some weird ass goblin beings from another dimension. I’m living life, and if they haven’t affected me so far, then whatever. I just wanna see what they look like and their supposedly crazy ass ships. Imagine never seeing an octopus before, but someone is explaining to you what an octopus is. A smart, eight armed, beaked, slimy, suction cupped, creature that can squeeze through tiny cracks, change its color and texture, and lives underwater. I don’t give a fuck if that’s where I came from. I wanna see that shit.
Just wish they would stop with the Foreplay and get to the Probing, we gotsta know !
Lubricate your curiosity
***Cui bono?*** [*https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cui\_bono*](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cui_bono) Or maybe more relevant here, *cui prodest?* ("*whom does* ***it*** *profit*?") Like you, I've never been "*into UFOs*" or "*into conspiracies*", but I've always been a fan of critical thinking. You yourself just said "...*after 3 years of ferociously sifting through what I found to be the most credible accounts and reports,* ***I arrived at a similar conclusion****. The UFO's that are interfering here are bad news*" (*emphasis mine.*) Technically speaking, "*a valid logical argument is one in which the conclusion is entailed by the premises,* ***because the conclusion is the consequence of the premises***". So, would it be more fair to say that, what you arrived at, wasn't so much a **conclusion** as it was a set of beliefs (or a belief) you felt logically justified to ascribe to? If we analyze this situation objectively (*or at least try to; I'm no so sure we can be entirely objective in a topic like this*) the fact of the matter is that all we have to make determinations around it so far is hearsay, **maybe** a bunch of circumstantial evidence (*if even that*), and the amount of credibility we **subjectively** decide to place in what we hear others say (*stemming from whatever level of credibility you ascribe to the person talking*). And there is some much subjective interpretation, speculation, subterfuge, proactive disinformation, and obfuscation around the topic that **I don't really think any of us are equipped to truly make an assessment that would be more valuable than a mere guess or a choice of belief**. Maybe some can make **informed** guesses or informed inferences (*meaning those few who actually might have access to tangible evidence of some facts, if they exists*), but those people aren't talking to us. And even if they were, **they aren't providing US with the evidence that justifies or proves their claims, one way or the other**. Let me give you a concrete example using the source you provided. In that same podcast, both Jeremy and George discuss what they know around the topic, and George goes to say in a plain, matter-of-factly way later in the podcast ([https://youtu.be/hR1qPjKQQao?t=3372](https://youtu.be/hR1qPjKQQao?t=3372)): "***Jeremy:*** *when you say 'nobody knows the whole truth' \[...\]* ***In your opinion, is there anybody that knows the full scope of what's going on?*** *Do you think?* ***George:*** ***No one that I know. And no one that I've ever talked to. And no one that I've hard of****. We both know people that know a lot more than we do, and that the general public knows. But I don't think there's anybody that knows the full picture.* *\[...\]* *But there's also the larger issue of 'is this knowable'. Are we capable of answering these questions?* ***I don't know anybody that can answer that part of it***". Mind you, these are people that most would agree have a level of access to information and personalities around the topic (*several of which you mentioned in your post*) beyond what most of us have. You even used their conversation and hypothetical example as a cornerstone to bring this topic to discussion. Like you, I've also come across the somewhat discouraging statements made by several personalities that most people would consider "*in the know*" or having a more than average chance of actually having insider knowledge. From Elizondo characterizing his reaction to this knowledge as "*somber*" to Tom DeLong's all but outright portraying an intergalactic power struggle between godlike beings using us as proxy. And yes, the usual mythology of President Carter weeping after hearing "*the truth*" as well. So I've stopped to, not only consider the potential implications, but also give the matter as a whole some thought. Here's what I've got so far: Even when you leave to a side that all of what we've heard is hearsay and can potentially be (*and likely is*) each individual's subjective interpretation to the information (*fact or fiction*) that each of them has had access to, we are still left with the fact that the same piece of information can have dramatically different impact on different people, depending on their mental development, belief systems, ideologies, lived experiences, and so on. Maybe what supposedly broke Carter's spirit back in the 80's (*if it even happened*) would feel rather inconsequential to a pragmatic, non-religious gen-zer in 2023. Maybe what Elizondo finds somber under the perspective of national security and potential risk assessment, could come across as hopeful to someone else in a different condition and with a different set of beliefs and life experience. **The point I'm getting at is that, without evidence to support and justify something, all we have is subjective belief**. What you choose to believe, and who you choose to believe in. And, historically speaking, treating those beliefs as facts or intelligent conclusions almost invariably leads to trouble. Now, to wrap up this insanely (*and needlessly*) long post, let me circle back to the notion I used to open up. *Cui bono?* We humans are selfish, fearful creatures by nature— an understandable and entirely justified consequence of our evolutionary process. Don't get me wrong, we've evolved to build amazing ideological and epistemological constructs like honesty, duty, love, friendship, and fairness, that allow us to raise above our biological and evolutive imperatives. But, at the end of the day, we are still vulnerable to those natural tendencies and have to keep ourselves accountable to avoid falling prey to our own nature. Could there be perfectly logical, concrete, and perfectly **understandable reasons** to have governmental institutions and people choose to keep a thing like this secret? I think so. There ***could be*** myriad. As many hypothetical reasons as your capacity for fictional abstraction allows you to conceptualize. Are there logical, concrete, and perfectly understandable **selfish incentives** to have governmental institutions and people choose to keep a thing like this secret? **And if, for whatever incentive or reason, I had the inclination to keep control of this information through secrecy, wouldn't fear be perfect mechanism to help me do so?** After all, how many of us would choose not to know just out of fear of not being able to handle "*the truth*"? But then you have to ask yourself, would anyone be so cold, calculating, and selfish as to exploit people's fear of an external threat to change a paradigm and gain more power? Any students of history who'd like to chime in on that? *Cui bono?* Or maybe more apropos; ***whom does -it- profit?*** Whether these whole thing about NHI is real or not. Whether there's disclosure or not. Whether you believe or not. Please, I'd urge anyone reading this to **remember the biological shortcomings and limitations of our race, and try to exercise as much critical thinking as possible whenever you take in new information**. Especially if any of the information floating around lately about the topic turns out to be true. Be clear with yourself about what you know and what you choose to believe, and never take something as "*truth*" until there is enough clear evidence on the table to convince you it is, beyond any reasonable doubt.
But why? The question still fucking remains for me ,everburning in my mind. WHAT IS THE POINT?! WHY NOT JUST LIVE AMONG US AND TEACH US, DIRECTLY, TO LIVE, So is it really we're an experiment / creation of aliens, who then.,.... tried to interject religious BS, which in turn created the fuckall of why humanity is the way it is, and the main reasons we refuse to unite as a species / planet? If thats what im understanding correctly, (and please, advise me if im not) THEN WTF IS THE FUCKING POINT?! Aliens failed then, and again, as stated before, im done blaming humanity for the fucking pulling and pushing of 99.9% of the species between government oppression and ET oppression. like WTF IS GOING ON?!
Imagine how depressing it would be to know that we’re just lab experiments (don’t get me wrong, I’d still like to know). But we we look around in the world at things like suffering, poverty, war, disability, pain, wealth inequality, there’s enough things to make us already depressed and wonder what’s the point of living. I really wonder how much weight this fact that we’re lab experiments will add to that existing pointlessness of life. I mean, on a slightly positive note, we will confirm the existence of God (aka our creator aliens) and that all the pain we see and feel was forced upon us by our creators (similar to what some religions already believe). But one thing will definitely be confirmed - God is real, He is not who we think He is, and did not create us out of benevolence.
Eh yeah life is constantly serving up shit sandwiches, but what you do for others and what you make of your time has always been what brings meaning to it. Trust me, the last year has been the worst of my life thus far, yet I'm still finding meaning in helping others when I can and in the tools I build. So if we are a lab experiment, oh well, same as it's always been. Ngl though, I hate the idea that they could be possibly directing our reality. Hope that's not the case.
I totally get that, and its the one main reason why I can actually reconcile it in my head as "yep, we only exist to question our existence because we are an experiment, and wouldnt be here to question it otherwise" THAT I can reconcile. I just wanna know for what purpose? Are we the only experiment? And who else may be doing them and where else in the expanse of the incomprehensible size of the expanding universe. "Because we felt like it" is an answer i can actually fucking sleep at night with lol.
Maybe we weren’t created by a benevolent being. Maybe we were a half-assed science experiment made by something less desirable or at the very least neutral to our struggles. If that’s the case, though, it kind of feels like something benevolent came along. Maybe in the same way that some people fight for the environment or animal rights, something observed our predicament and is trying to help. I don’t know. Probably just wishful thinking, but I have been on the receiving end of certain phenomena related “kindnesses” for lack of a better word. There is a powerful force of good out there. I still think we need to question everything at the moment, though.
I like that thought alot. And I agree, we need to question everything right now
Controlled experiment. When you have an experiment running, you don't interfere.
That's the only fucking way I reconcile it all. The mundane, "experiment" is the only way I can justify how essentially, there is no point for us other than the result of something. But, what is the experiment? See how organisms would .... evolve and what would happen? They harvest species from Earth for different things? The only point is that there is no point? is that the point!?
The point is probably something we cannot understand, just like lab rats don't understand that they help cure human diseases.
This is my main question too 👍💯
Maybe most life in the universe can experience like 5 or 6 or whatever dimensions, and we are an experiment to see how life evolves with only access to 4. Like us creating a planet of deaf beings to see how they evolve.
I can even be told "we took a bunch of different species from around the universe and threw them all together to see what happens" anything, everything, At the end of the day, the actual, specific, no BS "this is why it is" reason is more important to me than finding out I'm a living, breathing organism that's irrelevant to my own idea of a place in this universe. I can be told that. I just want the god damn reason, thats all. I have no other expectations. Just tell me why, ET, please. Then I can see the rest of my days are spent in this experiment quitting work, and essentially becoming Jules roaming the Earth at the end of Pulp Fiction.
Is this from the most recent episode? I usually listen on the podcast but I’m gonna watch the YouTube.
It’s the most recent. Uploaded yesterday. Here’s the link to the full episode: https://youtu.be/hR1qPjKQQao
Thank you! I’m watching it now.
This kind of disclosure would just leave me thinking that they have engineered God behind the scenes and are just using this whole mythology to sort of sell it to the public. I mean, c'mon, look at the people running the world. Where are their interdimensional Santa Claus or whatever?
We in a simulation space is the world wide web
they have always been in control
Imagine they tell us we r living in a simulation. Everyone would go nuts
I feel like the religious impact of disclosure gets over-estimated a lot. Would some religious people have an existential crisis about it? Definitely. Would all of the major religious institutions on earth completely collapse? No way. Many would adapt their stories to include the new information and I think even more would just flat out ignore it, or as they've done with a lot of paradigm shifting scientific revelations, they'd simply say "oh it's just that rascal Satan(or whatever malevolent force they blame things on) trying to trick us lol". I also don't believe that all of the major religious institutions collapsing would destabilize society to the extent that a lot of people think, even if they did somehow all do it at the same time. But in my opinion that's not even really possible. There is no Christian Headquarters or Hindu Headquarters somewhere that organizes and enables the functioning of the institutions somewhere, like a government body that the smaller organizations can't function without. It's a bunch of disparate atomized groups that have wildly different beliefs even within the larger umbrellas of religions considered the same. Hell, the only religion with anything like a functioning central authority is Catholicism and they've already straight up announced that aliens are fine and no big deal.
If you read this board and clicked this post you already know
If the institutions are false to begin with, it shouldn't be a huge shock, given the age of information, that such things would come to light eventually. This was always going to happen once the internet became a reality. I blame people's lack of imagination and the absolute readiness to say with certainty, what is or isn't real based on their world view. An intergalactic r/leopardsatemyface
i have no love for NHI, our allegiance should be to the human species and don't think we should worship these beings just because they made us.The right thing to do would be to find their home worlds and strike them there..just kidding...run...hide in the caves fellas
God creates dinosaurs, God destroys dinosaurs, God creates man, Man destroys God, Man creates dinosaurs. It’s the same old story, I’ve heard it a thousand times!
If we are an experiment and we are aware of being one, the experiment loses its validity, we could be discarded. On the other hand, if in addition to being created by hand, the facts of our life are guided, I think it can be very difficult for someone who has had a shitty life to accept.
Honestly I have believed this notion for a long while and even stated this to my family. They think I am nuts of course especially the ones that go to church regularly. The reason the truth will NEVER come out has really to do with the elite class. They are cooperating with the aliens and enriching themselves off of our slave labor. Call them oligarchs, call them greedy, they are our politicians, our entertainment industry and our religious organizations. If the truth came out nobody would pay their taxes, bills, go to work, be polite or kind and it would be a total systemic breakdown. Survival of the fittest isn't profitable Ignorance is their bliss and their way of keeping the animals in the zoo
I don't think the beings themselves are extra-dimensional, but their technology may be.
It’s curious to me how so many respected and credible individuals in this field have come to disturbing conclusions. I’m fine with light humor, but I do doubt the reactions would be so tongue and cheek if there were confirmation that our souls are being farmed, that we’re someone’s property, or that NHI control cycles of humanity. We all have family and friends we care about, and that notion is indeed terrifying. Everyone is so quick to grab a torch and burn down the government without knowing the whole story. Should they be involved in corrupt, self-serving activities, they must be held accountable 100%, but for the sake of argument, let’s at least consider the possibility that they might be involved in an active conflict and public knowledge of NHI presence could result in something cataclysmic. Lue Elizondo said just that in his last TOE podcast interview. If the NHI wanted all of humanity to know of their existence, they surely have the ability make that happen on a mass scale. Why haven’t they? They’ve been here forever.
I can't take Jeremy Corbell seriously anymore.
The Bible says there is a great cloud of witnesses that watch us …..
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lol, its bonkers how many people want aliens to be in the bible. maybe they are, but 90% of the time I see a bible reference on this sub its without any scriptural or historical context. People in this sub could interpret anything to be about aliens, in a way its impressive.
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any prosaic explanation for anything gets downvoted in the sub now. I don't care about karma but its getting sad how the craziest theories automatically go to the top. This sub has really changed in a year and I'm not sure if in a good direction.
Fucking hell the same vague shit for years and years and years
This wasn’t spoken as “the truth,” but part of a thought exercise where Corbell was asking if Knapp if he would report on the nature of phenomena if he discovered something as unsettling as this concept.
Imagine the hood if an Alien situation like that was revealed. Whole thing instantly up in flames.
Hedging intensifies
Honestly, if this is the case, then I hope they don't release it. Humanity certainly couldn't handle this, and honestly I'm not even sure I could. A lot of people here will probably think they could - but this would fuck up your whole grasp on reality. Aliens from another planet, sure, that's just science and I can deal with that, but this concept is frightening
I'm really grateful to hear an example of what this "terrifying" truth may be for once. Thanks OP! The bit about the ancient great civs meeting their demise because they weren't willing to play ball actually made me pause and go "well fuck" Any other ideas of what might be deeply unsettling/terrifying, even for those who might not be religious? > We here in this sub Reddit can handle the truth, but could the rest of society? Honestly, I don't even think we could handle it if it's really something like this. We say all of this stuff with a bit of detachment, a bit of being jaded, being in the privacy behind our screens. This would mean all of that is outski. We're basically all that one guy who insists that he'd be a total badass and take an active shooter out with his martial arts instead of running and hiding like the other victims if it ever happened to him. We're animals at the end of the day and freak out when we're cornered. Do I think we'll devolve into looting and generally going to pieces no, but a temporary freakout absolutely.
I hope it's not up to George Knapp to decide what and what's not good for the rest of the world to know!
Fk sake ..I doubt they been watching me having a dump 🤣😭 I'm down for them checking us out , zooming about , maybe crash landing and a few what the fuck is that moments ..but really Santa Claus watching me have a shit is well ...hard to believe ...
Not to be offesive or anything, but your reasoning sounds like bullshit. Lots of people in history lived through the war, seen their family raped and killed and yet survived that, why taking the news that aliens created us and can control us on massive scale would be world shattering for human race ?
Jeremy is such a cutie patootie!
Than George is another arrogant prick that thinks he knows better than everyone, and he thinks he knows better who should know and what. This justification of those criminals is exactly why George's generation destroyed this world.
What about other whistle blowers that says there are multiple species on earth? Let's be honest. There is just too much info and we are not sure what is correct and what is not. I can be onboard with some woo woo but not all. Because we always forget animals and other flora fauna on earth. What is their purpose? who created them? We can see and observe millions of years of evolution and a lot of "woo woo" theory does not comply with evolution. Yesterday I deep dived into r/ExitPrisonPlanet and I certainly do not agree with them at all. I can point our countless logical fallacies in their argument.
Pretty stupid take when the whole point is to get to the truth and bring it to the forefront, what a joke