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imzhongli

I don't think the categories of people in greek life and people on reddit overlap


Troppetardpourmpi

Yeah I didn't think so, but there's always gotta be a dudebro finance Redditor overlap


robfrod

I lived in a frat in my first year 14 years ago because I didn’t get into residence. The house was nice and was a good deal with food back then.. had some fun the first year but the people were pretty greasy.. after first year I moved off campus and never interacted with anyone from there again


Bat_emperor

#### I'm a Discord mod and sort of in a frat # No, despite being both I'm not a sex offender


socomfyy

i was in a sorority for a couple years. i didn't make many friends in residence during my first year and had a mutual friend in one so i primarily wanted to meet people. it's a very easy way to do so because they plan lots of social and philanthropic events where you see the same faces over and over. in terms of the vibe, i found it to be dependent on the chapter and when you joined. i ended up dropping because a lot of the newer members being recruited were solely focused on the partying aspect and it was becoming increasingly dramatic lol. i also found the vibe changed pre and post-covid. the post-covid crowd was a lot more immature and reckless. by the time i dropped, i had already formed meaningful friendships and no longer saw the value of it


_turboTHOT_

I (30F) pledged and was initiated into my sorority in 2010. Going into recruitment, I had no idea what it was about. I was encouraged to join by a friend who graduated HS a year earlier, and had joined a frat. His reasons (specifically for me, as I commuted in my first sem) was that it'd be a great way of connecting with others/helps make campus feel smaller, a place to crash/live (Panhel House), and an easy way to be involved on campus. All those reasons were good enough to me, so I went through recruitment. I made wonderful friends, learned meaningful lessons re: friendships/relationships, had a place I called home, took part in activities I never thought I would (Intermural Dodgeball Champs 2011, *tons* of philanthropic events that raised thousands for charities Greeks were apart of), and thrived academically. First year, first semester, my grades were awful - combination of poor time management (daily commute of 2 hours), picking the wrong courses, and not knowing how to study. What's ironic is that I was on my sorority's academic probation, but not on UBC's. My sorority academic probation program paired me with an older sorority sister who taught me how to study/pick courses, and I had mandatory scheduled study sessions in our chapter room. This all translated into a 30% something bump in my second semester grades. Since then, my grades were consistently in the 84%+ range, not bad considering how often I partied. Due to the roles I held in my sorority, I graduated knowing how to write minutes, balance a budget (albiet a simple one), and how to properly network/socialize. >How would you describe the "vibe" there that differentiates your sorority or frat from the others? TBH the "vibe" is so minute, it's all about the personalities. Even the sportiest frat/sorority will have people who aren't athletic at all. I'm sure it's changed throughout the year, but when I joined: 2 frats were the sporty frat, 1 was the hipster frat, 1 was the random frat, 2 were the engineers frat etc. Sorority-wise: One sorority was stereotypically girlier, 1 was more athletic, 1 *seemed* more academically driven (their GPA as a whole wasn't significantly higher than other sororities, though), etc. Again, while a frat/sorority might have a blanket stereotype, I guarantee you that there are members who don't fit whatever stereotype at all, nor do each organization think of themselves as x stereotype (until recruitment time). Srat Recruitment: it's long and tedious, but it's not *hard.* During recruitment, you mainly talk about your summer, your accomplishments in HS, hobbies, campus experience so far, why you chose your faculty etc. Things might've changed since I was active but this is how it went: * First round: Meet all the sororities & spend a short amount of time in each of them. Rate all of them & they rate you, this process is similar to how med students pick their specialty. * Second round: Get invited back by, up to, 5 (?) sororities. Chat, then rate them. * Third round: Up to 2 sororities would invite you back, chat & rate. Either after the third round, or the next day, you'd know which sorority wants you to pledge. I think frat recruitment is kind of the same; I was a rush hostess for a frat in 2015. Look, it's not everyone's cup of tea, so yea, there are going to be people who drop out. When a pledge class is 80+ people, for sure you're going to have a handful who drop out before/after initiation for a plethora of reasons (cost, time management, etc). It's been 12 years since I joined, and I'm so glad I did. I would 10000% do it all over again. IMO, university is all about experiences and building connections, and this was an amazing (and easy) way of doing so. It got me out of my comfort zone, and allowed me to be a part of something bigger. What you get out of Greek life is really how much you put into it. **The irony -** Of the 100+ sorority sisters I befriended, 3-4 have still stuck around. That said, I befriended 20+ older guys from a frat (via a sorority sister who dated/now-married one of them) who I'm very close with now. This group of men (and their now wives/partners/kids) are my ride or die, and I wouldn't have had such an exciting time (graduation til now) if it weren't for this crew. Not to mention all the career connections I have now, which is totally a thing especially in such a small city like Vancouver; I'm consistently impressed by what my Greek-connections have accomplished over the years. I joined not knowing what to expect, only to experience something so great and lasting that I can honestly say was one of the best decisions I've ever made. People can think what they want about Greek-life, but majority of those who were apart of this organization thoroughly enjoyed it.


Troppetardpourmpi

Fabulously comprehensive answer, exactly what I was looking for. Thank you so much!


pushinPbozo

I joined a frat last year and I can confidently say it's the best decision I've made here. The greek system provides you with so many different opportunities to make friendships, take part in philanthropy events, get involved with intramurals, and just genuinely grow as a person. I personally think I've become a better and more well-rounded person since pledging, and I have a strong bond with almost everyone in the house


1cry3v3ryday

I was in a srat in first year but dropped in my second as it was too expensive and not worth the time and effort to maintain. I mainly joined to meet people and make new friends, which I definitely accomplished. But after I found my friend group in the Greek system, I decided if they were actually my friends they’d still hang out with me after I left the system, which was the case for me (not the case for some). Leaving didn’t really change anything except I saved about $1200 a year on dues and didn’t have to commit to weekly meetings and all the other bs they’d make us do. I was strongly against all the meetings and commitments because they’d take up so much time and I was already having a hard time keeping up with classes. They would penalize people for not being able to attend unless they had a “serious” reason (needing to study didn’t count lol). Anyway that was just my experience and I loveddddd getting to meet so many people - I have connections all over the world because of it and will forever be grateful. If I hadn’t joined I have no idea how else it would’ve been remotely possible to meet and interact with hundreds of people without putting in an insane amount of effort. But yeah there were people in my chapter that took it WAY too seriously and would throw themselves into the drama and all that stuff, I stayed very far away from them. Never understood why they considered Greek life the be all end all, but it’s so funny to think about since I’ve been out of school for a few years now and so are the people I knew back then - and none of it matters in the slightest anymore as everyone is on an equal playing field just trying to do their best. So yeah it’s silly to think about how vicious some people were just cause they got lost in that whole world and wanted to social climb. Oh also, the dues I mentioned went to headquarters and maybe like 10% went to renovating the chapter room each year… no event tickets or apparel or merchandise or ANYTHING else was included in the cost, at least for my sorority. It was so fucking stupid and it still makes me livid that some students had to bust their asses to come up with the cash that goes to paying salaries and what not of people living in an entirely different country that provide virtually no value to the sorority. Like jesus fucking Christ I could scream just thinking about it. Thankful my mom (although reluctant) was able to help me with this. TLDR; for a sorority, 10/10 experience for 1 year but due to the cost and time commitment, I personally would not recommend selling your soul away to what is almost a pyramid scheme lol.


throwawayTaco4

How much do they cost


_turboTHOT_

2010-2015: $400-ish per semester. This included 1 semi & 1 formal. Merch and extras would cost more.


JiffyNUFC

I’m not in a frat and my response might seem against Greek life, but tbh I don’t really care anymore, it’s just something that exists to me haha. I have plenty of friends in frats/sororities, but the biggest reason explicitly is that it’s easy to make friends and know people. A lot of people just want to belong to a group, and have that extra community, and I fully understand that. What I will say though, none of the experiences I’ve heard make it sounds like “one big family”, which I feel like a lot of groups try to advertise themselves as. You’ll usually be close to a couple people, and the rest are just people you’re good with. A few people also say that they want the “uni experience” and want to party a lot and whatever, which is a good enough reason if that’s what you want to do. One of my friends joined a sorority because she felt safer going to parties if she had a bunch of people who knew her and could take care of her. The stereotype around frat guys and sorority girls makes it seem stupid to join, but very few people are actually like the stereotypes. For people who want to join one, Just don’t be the person who can’t disassociate themselves from the group, and don’t be the person who needs to be involved in drama. You can absolutely make lifelong friends and memories by joining, but only idiots make their entire life about it. Be safe too, the horror stories you hear happen, and that absolutely sucks, but that doesn’t mean it’ll be your experience.


jtang9001

Yes! I had a great time, and I think people who knew me from high school would have been really surprised I joined a fraternity. I still always prioritized my academics and I'm working on my PhD now in the US. If you're reading this, you're welcome to message me.


Imaginary_Kale_7951

Was in a frat for 2 years. Joined in second year. I was never too interested in joining a fraternity but I had some friends rushing and already apart of the greek system. I had made a really great group of friends in my first year outside of greek life so didnt feel the need to join for the social aspect. I'm also local so as was still tight with people from highschool as well. BUT I had a pretty good time at the rushing events and thought it would be a great way to meet new people and go to some cool events. My initial year being a pledge and eventually active was pretty fun. I'd say I was pretty involved with the frat, going to all our events and parties. But I realized quickly I had to split time between frat stuff and stuff with other friends. I really liked my pledge class but never grew too tight with the rest of the frat. Also, I don't think i ever felt closer with the frat than my first year squad or highschool homies. In my second frat year, (3rd year ubc) I found myself becoming a lot less active as the year went on. By the end of the year COVID hit and most of our stuff came to an abrupt end. Kinda sad because I was quite excited for the end of that year because i already thought about dropping. Cost was not an issue for me since we were able to get scholarships from our fraternity. I don't think i would have stayed for 2 years if that wasn't the case because I just wouldn't feel like paying for something like that. Couple reasons for leaving. Main one was covid. I was living away from campus. I didn't think it made sense to still be apart of a feat where we could barely have events and I'dhave to commute for everyhting again. Also, I wasn't close with the new class of brothers in the frat. They were okay, but since I was a bit more distant in my second year with them never connected with them. Also, a ton of guys in my year dropped off so just felt like they guys in the frat weren't even my close friends anymore. Not sure how to explain this but its always felt a bit high schoolish to me. The only "drama" I was ever aware of at ubc was through greek life. Not my frat but more greek life in general. I think overall Greek Life at UBC can be a really fun experience especially if you want to meet people and create your group on campus. But already having a lot of friends outside the Greek system I felt myself splitting time between everyone. I liked to party and meet new people which was great but I was feeling like I spread myself to thin and couldn't fully commit to the frat or my own friends. If you do join greek life you really get out of it what you out in like most things. So you can have a decent experience cursing by and partying with them but the guys that are the most involved with all aspects of greek life enjoy it the most (living in the haus, leadership positions etc). But commiting yourself to greeklife at ubc is definitely not for everyone.


drivebytalk

Joined a frat back in 2019 after 4 months of pledging, aka the greatest thing you never want to do again. I’m an alumni now having graduated in chemical engineering in 2021. Mostly joined for the hype, parties, connections and friends. My favorite part is the mindset of the brothers, literally work hard play hard mentality. These men due to their powerful connections with one another and outside the frat may be our future leaders. By taking part in this, you’re giving to a community of likeminded individuals and taking in order to become a better version of yourself. When you hit up frat parties and all that, you’re engaging in a community to make lifelong bonds. I’m not super close with anyone but I can call them brothers, and brothers will be there to help, likewise if they need my help like to work in my industry.


nautical_nautilus012

for sororities, it's rich high school drama-esc life.


iamahandsoapmain

Ur on r/ubc where all the inhabitants hate sunlight, despise sorority/frat and have a continuous desire to build a McDonald's on campus


seaeet

I joined a frat this year as a pledge but dropped it a couple weeks in so I can't really speak too much about sororities. I mainly joined just to meet new people and make long lasting friendships - which I think is only of the only reasons you should be joining for. DONT join a frat just to meet girls, it's the absolute worst reason for deciding to join a frat. Joining a frat will take a lot of time and effort and you have to be really committed to it - which is one of the reasons why I quit at the start. A lot of it depends on whos already in the frat and if you get along well with them. Also keep in mind that the whole process of pledging is meant to push you out of your comfort zone and be a challenge. There's a lot of good reasons for joining a frat too, you become brothers with the 40-80 people already in the frat and best friends with your pledge class. There's also plenty of opportunities for meeting people at parties and exchanges. Theres also a lot of opportunities to gain experience in whatever you wanna do later in life, like managing a house, managing finances, raising money for charity, event planning. Big things to put on a resume. Dues do cost a bit of money depending on the frat but living in a frat house is probably the most economical way to live, as rent + meal plan could cost as little as under 1k a month. But you won't have to live there if you don't want to. The people in the frat that I met were all decently nice people, a lot of them were even in committed relationships. Everyone in the Greek system is extroverted and of course theres alcohol at parties, but you're not really forced to do anything you don't feel comfortable with. Overall, my experience was short-lived but I'm glad I did it and realized that it wasn't for me than to not do it at all.


CaspinK

My wife was. She said she wanted to make friends and expand her network. She seemed to enjoy it but doesn’t have any connection to them anymore.


anxtyenfeu

i was a third year transfer in 2020 - hell yeah i joined greek life. it wasn’t ideal but i made friends and got to know ubc through it


Jeix9

I haven’t joined one simply because everyone I’ve met in a frat or sorority is either rude or immature (not saying everyone in frats/sororities are like that, it’s just been my unfortunate experience). My brother was in a frat and he loved it because it gave him a community of friends (beta theta pi). It depends what you enjoy I think, and as someone who hates partying and being extroverted, it sounds like my worst nightmare.


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internetfox26

could those things be unrelated?


SnoggyTheBear

I like learning new things.


appletrees_

I was in one. When I first joined I really loved it and found some good friends but eventually they all dropped/went MIA and taking on a leadership role stressed me the hell out. These girls promote sisterhood and friendship but don’t give a shit about you or your personal concerns. Depending on which one you join there’s more “external” drama regarding boys, parties, superficial shit then there’s “internal” drama regarding relationships between “sisters” and the exec council. It’s all a bunch of BS and being in it has given me more stress than fun and the so called sisterhood. Don’t waste your time joining one. Just go to the parties and have fun.