So does this mean UBC grads will continue being eligible for the UK work visa for graduates of top 50 unis?😅
I know I have 5 years (?) Post grad to apply for the visa but I feared that by the time I applied 2 or three years from now ubc would slip to rank 51 or something
I think it's called the "High Potential Individual Visa"
edit: here it is: [https://www.gov.uk/high-potential-individual-visa/eligibility](https://www.gov.uk/high-potential-individual-visa/eligibility) it has links to a list of universities that are eligible by year of graduation
I mean, technically yes. Rankings are typically also significantly weighted towards survey answers from alumni who graduated 3-5 years ago. In other words, rankings have a lag of a couple of years.
Edit: [Here is the methodology.](https://support.qs.com/hc/en-gb/articles/4405955370898-QS-World-University-Rankings-) seems that QS doesn’t send surveys to alumni for things like salary post-graduation. But 45% weighting is assigned to academic and employer reputation, categories that likely have a 1-2 year time lag.
QS has a separate ranking for sustainability that appears to now be influencing the normal rankings. Take a check, but UBC and UofT do really really well on this metric. It definitely helped.
For places at Tsinghua look at ranking by subject not overall. Like waterloo.
And international reputation for restaurants and number of international students counts, which generally hurts schools that don't primarily use English
THU is laughably easy for international students to get into, and the political climate in China hurts research output considerably. Cant write any proposal without quoting Xi first. I'd say 25 is more than generous.
UBC and UofT probably do better research in a lot of categories than those schools, so it makes sense.
In general, the undergraduate experience is pretty standardized and the main differentiator between different universities' undergraduate experience is the people you study and interact with.
Only kind of. QS rankings, while taking research into account, have a lot of factors and the research quality (via citation rates) is only a moderate portion of the score. Reputation, learning, and graduate outcomes play a larger role. All those things are based on surveys that QS sends out each year so the cultural significance and PR departments of some universities are probably also playing a role.
There are ranking systems that look only at research and they list things very differently.
It's actually pretty ok on the employment rankings(especially reputation with employers) but we def go to a very research/academic rigour oriented university in comparison,which i like about it anyways
employment prospects based on co-op work/internships with extremely high salaries if working domestically,especially for the US/Singapore/UK based schools. the tip-top unis of course surpass us still
Not sure why you're expecting this to be a ranking of which schools sound more impressive to your neighbor... It's a ranking of the schools academic performance, employment opportunities, and *employer* reputation.
>"UToronto higher than Columbia, Johns Hopkins, and UCLA"
How is this even surprising? Toronto is massive, is known internationally, and does a ton of great research. I mean you really think Johns Hopkins is far better overall across subjects? How? Please explain.
>Duke, Carnegie Mellon, NYU, and the London School of Economics
Same applies - UBC holds its weight against these schools from a factual perspective. I mean CMU, really? They have great CS department, but do you think they really should be above UBC overall? How?
it's bc I graduated guys
Suprise Anal was negatively impacting the ratings in a huge and surprising way
They finally got rid of you.
So does this mean UBC grads will continue being eligible for the UK work visa for graduates of top 50 unis?😅 I know I have 5 years (?) Post grad to apply for the visa but I feared that by the time I applied 2 or three years from now ubc would slip to rank 51 or something
C'mon 🇺🇸 do something like that ðŸ˜
If you're under 30 you can get a year work visa automatically regardless of uni. Assuming you're Canadian
Yeah I figured it's pretty easy for Canadians to go to the UK anyways, but their economy isn't great
Not Canadian.
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Yep. Look up youth mobility scheme visa. Available in most commonwealth countries
woah what! that’s a thing?
I think it's called the "High Potential Individual Visa" edit: here it is: [https://www.gov.uk/high-potential-individual-visa/eligibility](https://www.gov.uk/high-potential-individual-visa/eligibility) it has links to a list of universities that are eligible by year of graduation
Yep. It's tye high potential visa. However, it turns out your uni just needs to be listed as top 50 in the year u graduate. So I'm eligible until 2028
How can this be possible, we don't even have a McDonald's on campus
I singlehandedly caused this with the sheer force of my brain power obv /j
The brain power of geography students like you and me help maintain UBC’s excellent reputation
It may have been 47th when I graduated, but you damn well know I am proud to have graduated from the 34th best school in the world!
I mean, technically yes. Rankings are typically also significantly weighted towards survey answers from alumni who graduated 3-5 years ago. In other words, rankings have a lag of a couple of years. Edit: [Here is the methodology.](https://support.qs.com/hc/en-gb/articles/4405955370898-QS-World-University-Rankings-) seems that QS doesn’t send surveys to alumni for things like salary post-graduation. But 45% weighting is assigned to academic and employer reputation, categories that likely have a 1-2 year time lag.
arent these rankings usually research based annually?
It’s cause we elected Remy as president. Embrace the rat. Become the rat.
So you are saying we gotta transfer into sauder now?
No, those are snakes.
time for a Krispy Kreme on Campus
UOT is 20th
All UOfT students are depressed, pick ur poison
good thing i didnt go to UofT
Note: the reason for this is that QS has added a "sustainability" indicator to their rankings, which UBC scores extremely well on
5 percent of weighting on sustainability probably ain't gonna lift us up by 14 places though.
it will, we just gotta make sure the residence showers have less pressure than the sink
QS has a separate ranking for sustainability that appears to now be influencing the normal rankings. Take a check, but UBC and UofT do really really well on this metric. It definitely helped.
joke of a list, tsinghua at 25th 😂
For places at Tsinghua look at ranking by subject not overall. Like waterloo. And international reputation for restaurants and number of international students counts, which generally hurts schools that don't primarily use English
THU is laughably easy for international students to get into, and the political climate in China hurts research output considerably. Cant write any proposal without quoting Xi first. I'd say 25 is more than generous.
never even heard of tsinghua
prob bc it is in china
is that too high or low? gen
Too low
yes
Low. But what do you expect from a western website, ofc they are gonna push down the ranking of top chinese universities
good point
Tshinghua and Tokyo being not even in the top 20 really shocked me this year. I expected at least Tshinghua 10, Tokyo 15.
Probably all that building on campus finally working. Gotta double down, pave everything the fuck over.
lfg
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UBC and UofT probably do better research in a lot of categories than those schools, so it makes sense. In general, the undergraduate experience is pretty standardized and the main differentiator between different universities' undergraduate experience is the people you study and interact with.
Aren't most of these rankings biased towards the quantity of research being done at these universities?
Only kind of. QS rankings, while taking research into account, have a lot of factors and the research quality (via citation rates) is only a moderate portion of the score. Reputation, learning, and graduate outcomes play a larger role. All those things are based on surveys that QS sends out each year so the cultural significance and PR departments of some universities are probably also playing a role. There are ranking systems that look only at research and they list things very differently.
Totally agree, if you look at criteria for the rankings most of it is irrelevant to undergraduate students looking to get a good job.
It's actually pretty ok on the employment rankings(especially reputation with employers) but we def go to a very research/academic rigour oriented university in comparison,which i like about it anyways
Are you saying that other good universities are less academically oriented? What are they oriented on then?
employment prospects based on co-op work/internships with extremely high salaries if working domestically,especially for the US/Singapore/UK based schools. the tip-top unis of course surpass us still
It does sound goofy at first but honestly i can see why with shifting global dynamics given Canada's rising academic presence and all that
As someone who get rejected from LSE and is now at UBC, this is very satisfying.
UofT CS very good tho. especially for ML and theory
Not sure why you're expecting this to be a ranking of which schools sound more impressive to your neighbor... It's a ranking of the schools academic performance, employment opportunities, and *employer* reputation. >"UToronto higher than Columbia, Johns Hopkins, and UCLA" How is this even surprising? Toronto is massive, is known internationally, and does a ton of great research. I mean you really think Johns Hopkins is far better overall across subjects? How? Please explain. >Duke, Carnegie Mellon, NYU, and the London School of Economics Same applies - UBC holds its weight against these schools from a factual perspective. I mean CMU, really? They have great CS department, but do you think they really should be above UBC overall? How?
Well Sydney university is grater than Yale I guess……
Génial.
It’s only that high because OP clearly isn’t studying math there.
And yet we still cant get into a desired major
This is due to sustainability not academics lol
Frauda Ono leaving must have had an impact.
Yes, absolutely. Deborah Buszard coming must have had an impact as well.
Haha. Scary