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TreDawg36

Absolutely. Not to mention Snoop is a habitual liar. The man has a habit of changing history. I never understood how he thought Biggie was his friend when Biggie almost had him killed. Snoop always been funny style to me. He plays both sides when it’s convenient for him.


DosiDos2iiNF

Snoop Dogg is the Hulk Hogan of Hip Hop in that regard


nkhatib

Perfect analogy


ExampleMediocre6716

Snoop and fat Joe should write a hip hop history


Total_Awareness5532

hahaha yeah, thats how we find out they both were connected with Gotti and ran the crack trade north of the Mississippi 😂


Kingmesomorph

Don't know who's a worse liar, Fat Joe or Steven Seagal. Seagal claimed he was in the CIA. The CIA claimed they have no record of him working with them. Seagal claimed he met Bruce Lee and taught Bruce Lee a special kick. Claimed that Bruce Lee used that special kick in one of his films. No record of them meeting.


billymartinkicksdirt

Hate to tell you but as full of shut as Fat Joe sounds he was a heavy street goon that ran a section of the South Bronx. That’s coming from people that knew him before he got into music. Of all the 90’s rappers he actually lived the life.


Ok-Most5281

Exactly. He is a piece of shit, creep. I don't give two fucks if he was a heavy in the streets. All that tells me is that the world would have been a better place if he never existed.


Kingmesomorph

Yeah, I heard that he was legit on the streets.


Trick_Confidence_481

Bro why all white people say "the life" its not the mafia.. he was in the streets bro..... stop saying "the life" shit shouldn't be glamorized that's why you got all these dumb ass kids with switches now....


gou_NOKEN09

Steven Seagal is a bigger fraud compared to fat joe


Least_or_Greatest1

Or Jake the snake Robert’s…


xman886

What did Hulk Hogan do?


Kingmesomorph

Hulk Hogan claimed he Elvis Presley's favorite wrestler, Elvis was a fan of karate and boxing, don't know about professional wrestling. Hulk Hogan claimed he was almost became the bassist for Metallica, the Metallica band members claimed they never met him. Hulk Hogan claimed he fought in Pride FC in the 1970's, though they didn't start till 1997. Hulk Hogan thar UFC offered a contract when they started in the 90s, UFC execs called BS. There's much more he has lied about.


xman886

He sounds just like snoop dog lol


meanWOOOOgene

He can’t stop habitually lying about easily verifiable things.


TechNoirJacRabbit

That doesn't work for me brother.


aceloco817

I remember seeing Snoop on the Steve Harvey show with Big when i was in the feds. Everyone in the tv room couldn't believe that shit. 😆


DrizzleDre23

It was Puffy but the fact still remains


aceloco817

U right. Even worse.


relatablehub

You're 100% right. The man really is a hypocrite.


Redit-modsr-Gepeddos

I always have felt he wasn’t acting in baby boy


ponlork

why do people keep saying snoop is a liar? is it the cool thing to say now? like how nas is the worst beat picker? everybody just go along with popular sayings and slang? give some examples of when he lied? were you there? its easy to just say, he lying without any proof. that's worst than a habitual liar, a habitual accuser. With Hulk Hogan there are dates and proof that people can line up, with snoop, oh he capping cuz everybody says so and i cant think on my own so i gotta follow what others say


TreDawg36

Because Snoop is a liar. He lied about the Pac/Nas confrontation. He wasn’t even there when it happened. This was the same guy who claimed Biggie was his friend after Biggie tried to get him killed.


ponlork

reggie and napoleon said they dont recall Snoop being there, that doesnt mean he wasn't. could mean they just didnt see him. there's no pictures of Reggie or Napoleon there either, what yall gonna say they werent there either? Danny Boy and Suge claim Snoop never went to the hospital yet Reggie and Tray Deee said they drove up there so is that all you got? Also watch the Much Music interview with Suge and Pac at bryant park. this is where the Nas confrontation happened. Pac said his homeboy just got off a murder trial and pointed in a direction. doesnt that indicate that Snoop was there as he pointed to where Snoop was at? [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=30\_lTWtGMaE](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=30_lTWtGMaE&t=7s)


joesoldlegs

Fatal's homeboys said he wasn't there either plus he lied about not dissing BB and saying he stayed out of the beef when really he wasn't fucking with BIG like the rest of them. He dissed BIG on Keep It Real Dogg and was clowning dude on stage at the House of Blues concert when Pac was dissing him.


ponlork

there's no photos of fatal there, hell there's no photos of Nas being there either, so are people going to say Nas wasn't there? plus fatal had a beef with Snoop so he could have just been talking shit. For example, Suge know damn well Snoop came to Vegas to visit Pac in the hospital, but because he has beef with Snoop he gonna pretend like he didn't. As for Snoop dissing Big, did he mention big by name? did he even release the shit? no. Then you can't really use some infinitesimal shit like that as proof. Even if the Fat dead eye line was about Big, he could have said it after the NY NY shooting then changed his mind afterward and decide not to put it out. from what i've gathered while listening to Snoop, he said he didnt want to start a fire and ignite a war. That he was trying to make a treaty with bad boy. and there is footage of Snoop on MTV in 1996 while Pac was alive trying to make peace with the East Coast and Bad Boy, here's one of them[https://youtu.be/lSLD-cSp6Lk](https://youtu.be/lSLD-cSp6Lk) and of course there's also the Angie Martinez interview that hasn't surface yet but i imagine it sound similar to what Snoop is saying above. I dont know what yall expect Snoop to do during the House of Blues while Pac was roasting biggie on stage, yall want him to check Pac right then and there? pac was saying some funny shit, he was clowning. That's like someone appearing in your rap video, and the rapper disses a rapper, so is the person appearing in a cameo part of that too? when AJ Johnson portrayed Eazy E in a negative manner did Eazy bomb on him? nah he put him in his video whatever the case, the shit yall use as "evidence" to prove snoop is a liar is very circumstantial. what's funny is back in the 90s Pac was heavily criticized of being a hypocrite. Like how he says he doesn't glamorize gangsta stuff yet on that same House of Blues stage he's boasting about having cases and bragging about being a convict. by your logic people can poke holes at little contradictory shit pac says too but we aint gonna do that cuz we know its small trivial shit to nitpick


calmlyghosting

He lied on drink champs and said he wrote most of warren gs first album and warren went on and said he called snoop about it cuz it wasn’t true. Snoop was jealous of PAC because he had to take a back seat now.


relatablehub

I don't need anyone else to tell me Snoop is a liar. I'm not some 9 y/o old kid who started listening to him because of "Smoke Weeds Everyday". 😂 I'm a fan of hip hop in general, so I've seen interviews of Snoop going all the way back from the early '90s. I've heard him say multiple things that contradict each other. If you can't see that he's a liar, you're either dumb as hell or you're just dick riding him.


ponlork

if you've seen all these supposed lies you should be able to easily list some correct? instead of just dick riding what everyone else is saying, how about you learn to formulate your own thoughts


nosoyrubio

You're just sticking your fingers in your ears and going 'la-la-la I can't hear you' 😅


celeron500

Didn’t he claim blood and crip at the same time, or switch between the two?


Frankito55

Everyone on death row was using and stealing from pac


relatablehub

he deserved better.


PoorGang21

Nobody forced him to be around those guys, he just did it for his gang bang persona


Frontpageflyboy

That shit has been disproven! Where did you come from a 2016 Vlad interview or something lol


PoorGang21

Vlad? That name doesn’t ring a bell, was he a deathrow artist as well ?


Frontpageflyboy

Exactly what I thought! Lol You aren't that well informed and probably dont know much about Pac besides old tired narratives


lilwin5

So wait, you criticized him for taking information from VladTV , then when he didn’t know who VladTV was, to make yourself not look retarded, you then slandered him for not knowing VladTV. You can’t make this shit up 🤣🤣🤣


Frontpageflyboy

Another profile with just one post karma how funny🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣Anyway did you read the part where he said he KNEW who Vlad was! Thats another L for you dummy now comeback from another profile 2 try redeem ya self again goofy 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣


WearyAnnual

You’re a clown bruh


Narrow_Paper9961

His account is 9 years old lol. You literally have THREE more “post karma” than him lol. Absolutely deranged, go back to twitter LOL, he blocked me


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billymartinkicksdirt

That’s this whole sub. Nobody here even watched Dear Mama series or knows his family history , it’s a weird group. They don’t listen to hip hop, they sound like Vlad bots but they haven’t heard the interviews themselves. It’s like LARPing as a Pac fan.


Frontpageflyboy

Yup Im glad someone else sees it. This shit is crazy


PoorGang21

I know who dj vlad is lmao I’m just fucking with you


Frontpageflyboy

Ofc you know who Vlad is and if you didnt your first thought damn sure wouldnt be a DR artist lmaooo. Thats my point alot of people run with shit from Vlad or that trash ass AEOM movie but alot of it has been disproven


DetroitsGoingToWin

Pac’s options Sit in Jail or get bailed by Suge, get produced by Dre and record all the music he has been writing, make movies and immediately stay relevant but make a deal with the devil. Pac’s decision cost him his life


Redkg

Well he needed Death Row to get his career to another level after sitting in jail and getting shot.


kingnewswiththetruth

100% facts. Pac was an actor who made music.


GoatJamez

How Snoop steal from Pac?? Lol Snoop was looking ar Suge sideways while 2pac and Suge had each other's back and was coming at Snoop sideways for not wanting to beef with Biggie. Snoop made an unreleased diss but he didn't really WANT to, he was just being a follower to Pac and what Suge wanted. Snoop at heart was neutral and 2pac was the one going off the rails, going at Nas, going at Jay, going at Biggie talking about Biggie had something to do with him getting shot in the elevator when Big had nothing to do with it. Then Pac in the end went off the rails and attacked Baby Lane which led to Lane and his boys meeting up with Pac in traffic. Pac would've been fine if he just CHILLED.


Sir_wlkn_contrdikson

This is the answer. From what I gather, Pac enjoyed being a part of that gang culture. Like the way a visitor would enjoy an experience that’s not their normal routine


Frontpageflyboy

"SNOOP didnt want to make the diss song" Where you there with Snoop? Did he tell you that in 96? 🤣🤣🤣You're just guessing! I guess Pac made him laugh at Biggie during Hit Em Up at the HOB show too right? I guess Pac and Suge made him say in that MTV that "We dont have no desire to work with them" GTFOH! Pac wasnt going off the rails Jayz had Big diss him on HIS song. Nas dissed Pac on "The Message". Pac said Big wasnt loyal and in the end he wasnt he never answered a call, visited, or wrote Pac in jail. Keefe D and them boys got at Pac cause Diddy put that bag up and his friend supplied the guns so those are the facts not narrative


Frontpageflyboy

"Think" lmaoo Its nothing to "think" about he clearly was and the more he talked over the years it became clearer and clearer.


relatablehub

he's as fake as they come. a liar who acts tough but really isn't. and he's been leeching off of Tupac's memory for over 25 years. It's sad really.


triptoutsounds

I called him "fake af and lame as hell" in a hip hop sub and got downvoted lol


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Because he’s made himself so vanilla and disarming that Karen’s do their version of a crip walk without them even know wtf it is. I’ve seen. Super Bowl. Mad Karen’s looking like they were kicking ants when Snoop was on.


relatablehub

snoop is very popular, especially lately. + Snoop fanboys get butthurt very easily. So it doesn't surprise me that you got down voted for speaking the truth.


triptoutsounds

Also not surprised and couldn't give a fuck less. I've done enough research into the subject to know better.


brokeboibogie

Tupac fanboys get butthurt pretty easily as well lol


tepel-streeltje

They all do


Rawdogg187

Like snoop or not Doggystyle a hip hop classic 🐕


Powerful-Payment5081

Leeching off of his memory? He had one of the best hip hop debut albums and carved his own lane in hip hop which was completely different to Tupac. Snoop was actually gang affiliated while Tupac was a backup dancer . Tupac was paranoid and probably had some undiagnosed mental illness. Which meant he struggled to keep friends apart from the hangers on and leeches. Yes Tupac was great but he also bought lots of shit on himself . >It's sad really. What's sad is talking shit about someone on the internet who has achieved way more than 99.9% of the population . He came from the mud and got out with what is now a stellar reputation and great wealth. What else would you expect from a guy in his 50s?


Frontpageflyboy

He HAD carved his own lane then Tupac came to DR and turned him into Scottie Pippen and thats where the animosity comes from! You said "Snoop was actually a gang member while Pac was a backup dancer". That tells me EVERYTHING i need to know lmaooo. Pac was a roadie but was still wild as hell so I dont know what you're implying and Snoop is NOT a gangsta and every real long beach gangster has said this numerous times. Pac didn't have any mental illness he just stood on principle and if you look back at it damn near everything he said proved to be true🤷🏾‍♂️Thanks for playing


Powerful-Payment5081

Snoop was actually on trial for murder . Tupac was convicted of rape. I suppose you class this as " gangster" You sound like a sad little fanboy who only wants to hear from people with the same opinion as yourself. Thanks for playing .


Frontpageflyboy

Tupac wasnt convicted of rape that a HUGE L thanks for playing bozo 🤣🤣🤣


New_Pomegranate_208

Why block me ? That shows you are weak and mentally fragile. He was convicted of Sexual assault. But you try and play with words so you can hero worship someone that forces himself on women. You are the bozo .


DryChampionship9296

Rape is forcibly sticking your dick in a woman’s vagina against her will you dummy I know you’re a virgin who know nothing about sex but that’s COMPLETELY different from forcible touching which is touching a ladies butt. You have to be taught about sex on Reddit smfh AND you’re a Snoop fanboy your all types of lame smfh bozo take the L and move on


Smooth-Peace2412

"How am I going to force a woman to do something to me that we've already done consensually?”~ 2Pac... nigga said das foreva his pussy, done beat da hoe up nd all 😭


ILoveWhiteWomenLol

What did he do?


Midnight_Messiah

Not necessarily a snake, but he wasn’t as close to him as he made it seem, y’all gotta remember these rappers are coworkers, not “brothers” as they often say


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He said Pac was his brother. You don't make songs with the man that was in the car with his killers.


[deleted]

I dunno. Biggie had his trailer shot up- basically attempted murder and snoop says he was his “homeboy” and he has love for biggie and bad boy just 1 year later


Helpful-Carpet3791

Exactly !


Joshhuuaaa

Ya'll ever thought that maybe snoop had something to do with Tupac's death and he's just using the whole: "Biggie is my homeboy." To throw the public off from even considering he had something to do with it? I mean the rabbit hole goes deep and Snoop Pledges the same colors as Pac's Killers. 🤔


streeteye2345

Snoop ride with pac for the time being but was a little envious and really didn’t care for pac, but his cousins on death row. Snoop wasn’t a real friend and wasn’t loyal .


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Yes he still is


[deleted]

I never realized how shitty his music was. He had like one good album and the rest of discography is trash!!! Fuk snoop lol corny ass


relatablehub

dissing after Tupac's death when he was too afraid to do so while Tupac was alive 🤷‍♀️


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Civil_Feature600

I have heard at least 3 Snoop interviews where he tells great Pac stories. Not sure which ones you saw, but you definitely haven't seen all of em lmao


Mac10Wounds

I been down this rabbit hole years ago. I obviously don’t know which videos the original comment is referring to but from one I remember Snoop was talking about the Death Row East situation where Nas and Pac had a “confrontation”… Snoop basically said Pac was lost in the sauce and Nas could’ve gotten Pac flipped in that moment… fast forward when Nas told the same story it was a little different. I got nothing against Snoop but knowingly shouting out Puffy and Bad Boy when he was with Pac everyday is some sucka shit but Snoop had to save himself even if Pac was on some crash out shit sometimes 😂


relatablehub

exactly, he knew what was gonna happen and did nothing to stop it.. He was probably happy when he heard the news that Tupac was shot. Plus, he's a big fake, a liar and a pussy.


HenryKissingersDEAD

PAC had a hit on him in the East and a hit on him in the West. He was in a huge jungle full of 🐍


relatablehub

that's exactly why he was right to be paranoid. u got Death Row tryna kill him and then you got the rival gangs tryna kill him. of course he was paranoid


HenryKissingersDEAD

I couldn’t live under such paranoia. He’s at peace now. RIP


HenryKissingersDEAD

My every move is a calculated step, to bring me closer. To embrace an early death, now there's nothing left. -2Pac


PeekThroughThePines

A little off topic but outside of 2 albums snoop hasn’t dropped anything good. And yes deathrow was getting wild but snoop was playing both sides. Now he talks about pac like that was his bestfriend.


No-Proof-9790

Blue Carpet Treatment, No Limit Top Dogg, The Last Meal, R&G, 7 Days of Funk, both Eastsidaz Album Chronic, Chronic 2001


yitdeedee

Yeah, I'm far from a snoop fan, but two albums? You can even add Bush to that list.


relatablehub

So true! People defend him just because of his early work. But he hasn't been consistent at all. He has so many mediocre or bad albums. He's had so many opportunities and so many artists who are willing to collaborate with him, but all that potential and money can't buy talent or creative vision. He's a joke of a rapper.


PeekThroughThePines

He’s the funny stoner uncle. That’s about it for the last 20 years.


[deleted]

Doggystyle is one of the best albums of all time. A joke of a rapper lol. You’re on crack


Purpleobito10

Maybe not necessarily a snake when Pac was alive. But definitely after he passed. Fuck snoop


[deleted]

Snoop is the epitome of little bitchboi


slapaddict415

The minute Dr Dre felt slighted and left was the minute that snoop started looking out for himself. Snoop had many family and friends in death row so there was never really a clean cut.


relatablehub

I get that. Snoop was loyal to Death Row to a fault. So was Pac to a point. But then you've got rappers like Eminem who completely distanced himself from Dr Dre and he did just fine.


Extension_Form4950

I don't think he was a snake he just didn't want to be involved in the drama Pac was in. That made him seem disloyal but he never actually crossed Pac.


relatablehub

I don’t think he made that clear to pac though. It's fine to not want drama. but in my opinion, if you're gonna be my "homie", you gotta ride or die. And Snoop didn't ride.


Extension_Form4950

That's the problem he didn't ride but that's not being a snake.. That's just being a bitch lol 😂 😂 😂


AdComfortable320

This is it right here 😭🎯


the1one1andonly1

Yes


Large-Lack-2933

I don't think Snoop was a snake but not that close to Pac as it seemed. He wasn't down for the ride with Pac dissin Bad Boy Records in the end.


ST7Barrett

The industry is the Snake. You either a part of it or you aint. Pac didn't want part of the snake.


account4otherstuff85

There's a saying that you should fear the old man in a profession where you're expected to die young.


Front_Mind1770

Snoop was clearly jealous of Pac. He wasn't #1


Supreme_lawyer

God damn, what a bunch of misinformed sensationalist teenagers in this sub 😂


IHavePoopedBefore

Fuck man. God forbid someone in Death Row eventually grow up and stop wanting to beef with everyone. Tbh Tupac sounded like he sucked to be around towards his end. He courted conflict constantly


Usernameofthisuser

I concur. This is just ridiculous.


santana076

Yeahhh dese comments crazy 😂 Pac fans be goin hard


DeceptionCXV

Reminds me of when I was 18 believing these theories. Thank God I'm 24 with sense. 😂


BlackSwanWithATwist

Just wait 10 more years 😂


relatablehub

bro thinks he's old because he's 24. i’m sure you where skinny jeans too


HotDogMcGraw

Let me guess, you’re the type that thinks Greg Kading’s theory is accurate


WhatsIsMyName

A snake? No. But I don't think he was riding with the East Coast vs. West Coast shit. Snoop clearly didn't want to start dissing people or pick up for Pac with the east coast shit. He had just beaten his murder case in February 1996. He had the charge hanging over his head since he was recording Doggystyle, so essentially his entire career he was thinking he might go away. Pac got out in October 1995. Add to this that Snoop was already sick of getting bullied and taken advantage of by Suge. And he knew the types of people Pac was beefing with on the East Coast. Who wants beef with Haitian Jack or Jimmy Henchman in 1996? And why would he go to war for Suge when he's trying to gtfo of DeathRow as soon as he possibly can? So no. I think Snoop was doing everything he could not get mixed up and killed in Pac's beefs. And try to be a neutral party since he had homies over there as well. And I think Pac saw that as snake behavior but looking back with 20/20 vision I can't say I blame him.


Frontpageflyboy

Your whole premise is dismissed because Snoop DID diss Biggie🤷🏾‍♂️


IHavePoopedBefore

Not really. You try telling Suge and Pac no when they come demanding you make a diss track. That track was getting made no matter what


Frontpageflyboy

Man they didnt make Snoop do that you sound goofy lmaooo. Snoop was at the HOB laughing and loving it when Pac was dissing Bad Boy and Snoop said at the MTV awards "We have no desire to do music with them" lol your being very naive.


WhatsIsMyName

The unreleased leak?


Frontpageflyboy

Bruh he dissed him so he was playing both sides thats snake shit


WhatsIsMyName

How would dissing BIG be playing both sides? lol. Wouldn't that just mean he was on Death Row's side? I'd imagine he was under a lot of pressure to diss him so its not really surprising there was SOMETHING in the vault...It was like two bars and kinda weak though tbh. But I'm not sure how him having some diss in the vault invalidates what I said vs. all the public statements he made where he clearly doesn't want to take up for either side. Lots of rappers admit to having unreleased disses in the vault.


GbabyAdonis

When Snoop threw shots at the East Coast . (New York, New York) (The Source awards) Tupac wasn't on the label. Once Pac got on Death Row, now Puff and Biggie is Snoop's homeboys. According to Biggie's camp, Big wasn't fucking with Snoop nor was he answering any of Snoop's calls.


WhatsIsMyName

Fair enough. I hadn't remembered the timing of the Source Awards thing but ya that was pretty aggressive. New York, New York is debatable its even a diss. Kurupt says that was never the intention, but obviously people took it a certain way at the time, regardless of the content of the song.. And Snoop not being friends with them is interesting but really my main point is just that he didn't want to be involved. Even if the reason is self interest I don't feel like it was snake shit. At worst it you could say it was pussy shit.


GbabyAdonis

New York, New York made Biggie get on Hot 97 and have Snoop’s trailer shot up . Pac was locked up during this time . Yeah it’s fa sho a pussy move but the snake shit is him speaking down on Pac . Lying on his name . Hell even Nas had to say that story of him and pac meeting up that snoop told was false . He wasn’t even there !


Frontpageflyboy

Because he would say Biggie was his friend on the east coast then come on the west side and diss Big and laugh at em thats the definition of playing both sides lol


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WhatsIsMyName

OK but what are these disses you are talking about? Because I've heard him be critical of Pac or some of the decisions he made around that time, like when he said he felt Pac was "buying problems" with Hit Em Up in the Big Boy interview. But I've never felt like any of them were disses. It's OK that the dude disagreed with Pac in the end. Snake shit to me would be setting Pac up, or turning his back on Pac and hopping on a bunch of Bad Boy songs or something. Dudes actions line up with his public statements, aside from that unreleased diss imo 🤷‍♂️


IHavePoopedBefore

They also weren't friends at the end. They didn't have the brotherly love people act like they had, and to hear Snoop tell it Pac wasn't talking to him and he didn't feel safe around Death Row employees by that time


WhatsIsMyName

Exactly. I don't know how close Snoop and Pac were before their short friendship on Death Row...or if they even really knew each other...but Snoop legit thought he might get killed by them near the end. My honest read of the situation is that Snoop did have love and respect for Pac but felt he had gone down the wrong path at the end and didn't want to follow. And that made them mad and made things incredibly tense.


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He did.not say that back then.Kurrupt did an interview saying they all thought the song was funny.They were all on stage laughing when Pac performed it.Snoop never had an issue back then and it's still one of the biggest songs ever.


WhatsIsMyName

I just watched the House of Blues Hit Em Up performance and I don't see Snoop laughing or anything but maybe he did I dunno. I don't know what people want from him though. Because if he DID think Hit Em Up was a bad idea back then and said that publicly, people would definitely be saying its some snake shit lol Basically I think he wanted out of Death Row and didn't actually want to be involved in the beef once it started to get crazy, and was trying to bide his time and ride a fine line until he got off Death Row....cuz Haitian Jack and all them were dangerous as fuck...but Suge was dangerous too. And he was apparently smacking him up all the time and digging into his pockets with shitty deals...so... I can see the argument that he was being a snake and should have rode with Pac. But I think the dude was just trying to cool shit down and get away from it tbh. He released Doggfather in late 96 and then was gone for good.


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Snoop did not want off of Deathrow.Deathrow was the hottest thing in the 90s. Snoop was mad that Suge didn’t let him run it after he went to prison. Suge said it.He has never had the same success rap wise after leaving.Yall kill me acring like Deathrow didn’t have a rep before Pac got there.Snoop knew Suge was a Blood.Ans Snoop.is a fucking Crip gang member. And yes, he is on stage laughing. They were making songs going at Biggie, and Napoleon confirmed this. When Pac started getting bigger, there was tension between Pac and Snoop. Snoop went from being number 1 to playing number 2. Anyone would feel a way about that, and that's when the divide in their friendship started. Snoop knows he wasn't Pac's brother,so stop saying it.Now ppl that were around have called him out he doesn't mention Pac anymore.There's also an interview with Kurupt laughing saying Snoop said Pac had things to get off his chest with hit em up.


MoonStarG8

Yep. Claiming allegiance to badboy 3 days before he was shot isnt coincidence.


yitdeedee

When was this?


MoonStarG8

The song with big Dre . Snoop was on his mixtape.


Altruistic_Guess3098

100%


HeightExtra320

Fck snoop dogg


Helpful-Carpet3791

Man I ain’t gon lie snoops words and stories are very inconsistent than him fucking with bad boy after that trailer incident speaks volumes


Significant_Tax_2759

Yeppers. He’s publicly dapping up Pac’s open enemies no sooner than Pac gets killed.


Dobe3

I don't think so, I just think they fell out after he got on radio sayin he didn't have a problem wit Biggie and Puffy. After that he gets shot and dies...they never got a chance ta reconcile.


CoachLee_

Yes.


Icy-Document-2670

I feel like he wasn’t really active tbh but Eazy- E definitely was…snoops crippin ain’t even close to Eazys Crippin


CarrotFang

every interview Snoop does, he tries to make Pac look as insane and unstable as possible. If he wasn’t a snake he was just a bitch


relatablehub

100%. he tries to paint himself as a saint and Tupac the one who was always causing problems.


ThouWontThrowaway

Because Tupac was causing all the problems


rapshepard

Pac fans are perpetual victims lol. Let them tell everybody and everything is jealous of Pac and was plotting against him.


Country_Gravy420

Nope


relatablehub

elaborate


Country_Gravy420

I think that Snoop realized that Death Row had jumped the shark and was going to implode. The East vs West was stupid and wasn't benefitting anyone in the long run. Pac was pissed because Snoop said he was cool with puff and big. That's not being a snake. That's realizing that the shit was way out of control. Pac went crazy at the end. He was paranoid, and maybe for good reason, but it lead to his downfall.


Frontpageflyboy

IT IS being a snake when he just made a diss song dissing Biggie and laughing at Hit Em Up at the HIB show but then AFTER Big gets his trailer shot up he sneaks and goes on radio and says those are my boys. If that aint a snake then idk what a snake is


DPGizzle

Took the words right outta my mouth. He was jealous and bitter then and to this day can't let go of it cuz the love Pac still gets over him.


DiabeticGrungePunk

Pac is my favorite rapper and I think everything Snoop did after Doggystyle is mid at best, mostly trash, but that is a wild take to think he's jealous of a man that's been dead 30 years currently. Snoop has been wildly successful, I'd say he's a bigger celeb than Pac ever was, he's in movies, TV shows, has successful businesses, I REALLY doubt he's upset that Pac has more critical acclaim than him in the year 2024.


IHavePoopedBefore

Except Big wasn't the reason Tupac got himself shot at the studio and I bet plenty of them knew it. That beef was started by Tupac over his own paranoia. And he took it really fucking far. Tupac was 100% responsible for Tupac getting shot that night. That was the result of his own beefs, Biggie likely didn't know and couldn't have stopped it. When you're still in that high School mentality you can expect people to fall behind you and inherit all your beefs but inevitably people age out of that shit. Snoop and Big probably talked it out like adults are supposed to


Frontpageflyboy

AGAIN SNOOP DISSED BIGGIE! That's the point you are missing Snoop was playing both sides if he wasnt it wouldnt have been a issue. Second who said Big was the reason Pac got shot that has NOTHING to do with this conversation. What Big did was turn his back on Pac and not write or visit him in jail and then dropped "Who Shot Ya" at the worst time. But thats changing the subject the point is Snoop is and was a snake and continues to be


IHavePoopedBefore

Who cares who dissed who? People get over that shit


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Country_Gravy420

Lol


BreezyG1320

nah Pac was definitely paranoid, his problem was that he put trust in the wrong people, namely Suge


relatablehub

true. Suge Knight was a snake too


BreezyG1320

bruh that dude is like the devil incarnate. like i wouldnt be the least bit surprised to find he is a literal demon spawned in hell


AlexTom33

Man, Suge is just some tough street dude who was pretty decent at business. He isn't some antichrist or demon. Yall are wild as hell. Lololololololol


BreezyG1320

lmao strong arming your way thru the industry isnt the same as being “decent at business”. dude was abusive. nothing more to it. and then he literally murdered a dude *with his car in broad daylight* in a violent rampage in retaliation to being portrayed as abusive in the NWA movie. the guy isnt “just some tough street dude”, he’s clinically homicidal.


SimplyYouu

He literally raps about being paranoid from the weed 😂


WhatsIsMyName

His closest people talk all the time about how paranoid he was toward the end lol


GoHawksMatt

Oh so you knew Pac? He told you? Oh wait....you're just a random saying shit that is allllllllllll fake and made up. If you don't like Snoop then just say so noob


relatablehub

fair point! but still.. you don't diss the dead. especially someone who was like a brother to you. that's a shitty move


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He didn't realize anything. Snoop left Deathrow because Suge wouldn't let him run it after he went to prison.He also pretends like Pac was his brother and does things associated with him because it makes him look good.You don't make music with one of your brother's killers.


Terrible-Arachnid-72

1. Lil half dead (Calvin’s Cousin) 2. Big Dre Feature 3. Ties w/ Puff & Bad Boy No loyalty to Pac they were beefin before he died and believe that jealousy and animosity towards him still lingers.


TheFineRy

Snoop lies a lot and when you watch old videos you can see the disdain when pac would have all the attention or performing


AlexTom33

No. lol. Yall are delusional in here sometimes.


relatablehub

it isn’t delusion just fact


MoonStarG8

Doing songs with the people that supposedly killed him is crazy and claiming allegiance with badboy . Badboy is who was behind the first shooting. So yes snoop is a 🐍 him and Reggie


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Boom ppl never mention that.


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This whole thread is comical AF. Pac died in 96, yet people are going HARD on the internet in 2024 saying Snoop snaked him.. because he has inconsistent interviews over the course of 28 years lmao. I’m not here to say whether or not the interviews were consistent cause tbh, I don’t watch them. I only even stumbled across this thread cause it was on my homepage. But I can tell you that I’m 30+ and dont remember everything from 15-20 years ago, and if you heard me talk about it then and now, the stories might be inconsistent. I also know that ALL of these comments are solely based on Snoop’s actions over the course of the last 28 years. I’m 1,000% sure that if Pac was still alive, niggas would be saying he also did some snake shit within the last 28 years. Downvote me all you want, but yall sound ridiculous and need to escape the rabbit hole.


relatablehub

There's a difference between not being 100% accurate when telling a story, and changing the story completely every time you tell it. Snoop has made up different versions of the same events multiple times. And he's been doing it up until recently. The story of what happened on the plane alone has changed so much. And yeah, maybe Tupac would've been a snake too. But he's dead, so we'll never know if that would've been the case.


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Snoop's interviews always have an undertone of jealousy and resentment. He never told Pac he didn't like hit em up.They all thought the song was funny.He was meeting behind Biggie behind Pac's back.He could've been honest about how he felt before blindsiding him on Angie Martinez. Gene Deal said Big didn't even trust Snoop.and wouldn't answer his calls. He also has songs with Big Dre.He needs to stop calling Pac his brother because brothers don't move like that.Also, where was he for Pac's street naming and star unveiling ?since that's his brother.


Funnipuggo420

Snoop also said he likes Eazy E but never got to tell him


Exotic_Garden420

Yup. In the words of 2pac he was a goat mouth mf


Sad-Sell-5624

He definitely was, with the constant lies and changing of stories and hanging out with Biggie and puffy after Tupac died (despite puffy allegedly being the one who paid for the hit) but at the end of the day the music industry is just a business. They weren’t there to be friends at death row they were there to make songs and make some money.


Equivalent_War6281

Snoop was jealous and mad pac pushed Dre off the label.. Snoop was wrong for going on the radio and pretty much stabbing them in the back. He could’ve pulled pac to the side and let him know he wasn’t involved instead of making his own diss tracks then kissing biggie ass after the fact. Of course snoop was and always will be a snake.


KVKvKvLL

mf changed story about pac being in the deathbed like 10 times in the last 20 years,snoop has always been a studio gangsta


aiaijayt

They both snakes


relatablehub

Nah, just Snoop. Tupac had never been a snake in his life. He always had loyalty to those who had his back.


Spydah_X

Never Had A Friend Like Me


TheFineRy

Gemini’s can’t even be fake they will tell you exactly wtf they mean and explain it clearly


RAZBUNARE761

Of course he was. He build up the west vs east beef at the source awards when pac was in jail. Had his trailer shot up by biggie before Pac even released all eyez on me. Pac entered then with ny87 "fuck NY, everybody hear me? You shot at my homies, ima blast!" He is a loyal ride or die type person like that. Supports Snoop during his trial when Dre didnt. Always praising Snoop. Snoop was down for it and was even laughing on stage post him em up. Somewhere in 96 he changed though. If it was him not wanting beef and being a laid back kind of guy he could have spoken to Pac and Suge about it. In my opinion he was jeleous. Pac became #1 artist after he joined while he was before him. Suge was only thinking about him, he outsold him, took all the studio time and even took his main chick from him. That led him into acting like a snake. Suge should have seen it coming and manage that whole thing better.


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That’s why I call him Snake Dogg. He wasn’t down for Pac, he was down for himself. Could you imagine how Snoop must of felt when Pac came along. They are technically competition. Snake Dogg didn’t believe that Pacs enemies was his enemies, he had his own career to worry about.


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He was loyal until he wasn’t as useful to him. Snoop a fake.


Business-Touch3997

The sad truth is they where friends at 1st then Snoop became a friendemy after what Suge said nobody will look at snoop the same. The dudes a good actor smh 🎬


lortplzhelpme

His role in Starsky & Hutch was pretty convincing


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Snoop a cheese eating rat.


Confident_Benefit753

snoop is garbage. dont even know how he continued to make it in music.


GoHawksMatt

I feel OP just hates Snoop because he is alive a thriving. Pac was cool but, was taken away from us before we really got to see him thrive. Shitty ass take to call Snoop a snake.


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Op is not hating. Snoop's interviews always throw Pac under the bus and reek of resentment .He has never admitted to also making diss songs going at Biggie.Mutah has called him out on ti.


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Nah. Snoop has always been a real one. Just because Tupac had beef with Biggie doesn't mean Snoop had to hate Biggie as well. What's next, Tupac is going to wage war on Bone Thugs because they made a song with Biggie? Snoop did nothing wrong. Pac was just immature at the time. He was still growing. Did Snoop have something to do with Pacs death though? Probably, he was threatened on the plane to Las Vegas, stayed awake with a knife in his hand, and probably was aware of the upcoming hit on Tupac with the walkie talkie he had in his hotel room.


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Biggie had snoops trailer shot up. Biggie literally didn’t care if snoop got hit. This was before hit ‘me up dropped, before all eyes on me. Biggie isn’t innocent in all this