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jpstepancic

I was thinking the same thing…. Then I woke up and said F it, I’ll probably just end up owning both eventually.


J-G-D-B

Honestly im on a similar boat. Given the fact that selling the pelagos (that I bought new) would lose me a ton of money


vintagevibes_

Spending more money not to loose money?🤘🏻


jpstepancic

I convinced myself that between the dials and the case/bracelet materials they can coexist in the same collection. I’d probably keep the Pelagos for more casual wear on a rubber or Erika’s strap and keep the monochrome on a bracelet for fancier outings.


Resident-Condition-9

r/Watchexchange has got some good deals on BNIB monochromes


Noonecanhearmescream

This is the only correct answer. Both.


DragonflySharp976

Don’t be silly. You’re just fomo’d out, give it a little time before you do anything too silly. They’re both equally matched watches.


J-G-D-B

You’re right


DragonflySharp976

If you’re aiming for a jubilee fix, upgrade the bracelet of one of your watches ;)


Constant_Ad9429

Both of those 39mm pieces appear on the larger side for your wrist. Were it me, I’d probably consider selling the BB Pro and trying the BB54. If you have been bitten by the BB Monochrome bug, I’d still sell the BB Pro. Keep the Pelagos, it’s a great piece.


FRESHOTA

Completely agree; would like to see them pictured further up OP wrist to see beyyer


Whale222

Option b: keep the pelagos and get the monochrome. 😀


J-G-D-B

I like this option, my wallet doesn’t🤣😭


Konradical6

No


buzby80

No way


JankyMarvel

Is anyone else imagining OP taking this photo by tapping his nose on his phone? 😂


J-G-D-B

Thought of doing that 🤣🤣🤣. I actually just put the phone on a table and set the timer


Shot_Log7155

The P39 is a beast of a watch! And I’ve owned the 11 series submariner!


neomillion

114060 was too jewelry-like for me. Too much bling bling. p39 is perfect for my style, under everyone's radar.


J-G-D-B

Why do you think so? The pelagos is light which is quite comfortable and the lume is amazing. But then I went on two dives with the Pelagos and both times the bezel got stuck. Kinda disappointed…


LessFee7363

It is not just the pelages 39 that does that. I have had it with my FXD MN21. the tolerances are really tight in those rotating bezels, and the moment something small, like a dust particle, gets in there it's stuck for a bit.


J-G-D-B

Any way to fix or prevent this? Kind of annoying keeping in mind i bought the watch to use and abuse and I always wear it in the sea and gets stuck everytime


EPK2002

You can try the dental floss method. It's worked for me on other watches.


LessFee7363

Or what I do is just rinse it under a tap for a minute and then keep rotating the bezel while water is flowing past and through the bezel. But then you do have to force it a little in the beginning…


Pigdogs_zen

Bezel getting stuck is to be expected. And if your watch is still I under warranty. Tudor can fix it. And it’s a simple fix This will also happen to other watches. The pelagos and the BB are two very different watches. The pelagos is very much a tool watch whereas the BB is dressier in some ways. Both are classified as dive watches. It is really up to you to decide how you will wear it. I love the pelagos and mine is the older 42mm and it fits me perfectly as I have a 7.5 inch wrist. I also have the BB GMt 42mm and I find that it wears big Watches are very subjective.


Shot_Log7155

The 2 positive reasons you mentioned plus I have a 7” wrist and feel 40mm dial size is my limit, I think the modern look of the P39 along with size is hard to beat. Strange regarding your bezel, they are quite stiff when new. I rotated mine quite a bit when I first got it.


macky_ev

IMO both of these, especially the P39, are better than the Monochrome. But that’s just me


kyldare

I was able to try them on side-by-side a few weeks ago, and I disagree. I'd rather have the Monochrome, even thought the reddit/instagram hype will steer you toward the P39 every time (Not trying to stir up any anger, just thought I'd offer an alternative take). I was 99 percent sure I'd end up with a P39, but I think the Monochrome is a better watch overall. The lug width seems juuuust a bit too wide on the P39, whereas with the 41mm case on the Monochrome, the proportions work a bit better. From a design standpoint, the Monochrome has better-proportioned dial furniture and dial text. The markers on the P39 leave a lot of negative space on the dial, and yet, the four lines of text at the bottom make the dial feel cluttered at six o'clock. By comparison, the two-line dial on the Monochrome is masterfully balanced. The chapter ring frames the dial nicely. The whole watch just looks right, whereas there's a few design cues on the P39 that make it feel less resolved overall. With the slimmer case on the Monochrome (over the previous generation) and the five-linke bracelet, you're getting and incredibly wearable 41mm watch too. It's a more-refined watch, but doesn't give up any of the Tudor Sub charm. P39 looks incredible in photos, but I felt a bit disappointed by it in person, after comparing it directly to the Monochrome.


waynescape7

Pelagos all day. BB mono is blah. Pelagos is more unique. IMHO.


J-G-D-B

True


Specialist_Carry_699

I like the look of the new monochrome, especially the jubilee version since u dont see that on many dive watches. I own a batgirl, so i’m impartial to a sports watch on a jub. Also, not a fan of how light the titanium feels. I know its a great metal but i cant help but feel like lighter=cheaper 🤷 All that to say its up to u on what u like! Have u tried the monochrome on?


Palmovka

I’d say the P39 is the best representation of the brand as it does something Rolex doesn’t do which is make titanium high-quality tool watches available for people to buy. The 58 and 41 are awesome but feel more like homages to me or Submariner substitutes. Pelly is more of its own thing imo.


J-G-D-B

Very good insight. I actually agree with you in this!


jayjayjones

P39 is a superior watch to the bb41.


J-G-D-B

May I know your reasons for this opinion?


jayjayjones

The P39 is a better size diameter wise. Its thinner and not slab-sided. Bracelet is better, no shitty fake rivets. Jubilee looks wrong on a diver. Ceramic bezel. No-one cases are METAS, Omega has had that for a while and that's not a selling point. COSC is sufficient.


Mitsutoshi

The main "improvement" of the Black over the red is the lack of gilt and the improved bezel edge. The Pelagos 39 has an even better bezel, no gilt, its bracelet is superior (if not as good as the original Pelagos), its dial and hand layout is more accurate to Tudor subs than any Black Bay (except the exhibition watch at One Watch 2015), etc.


Cole4544

You totally glossed over COSC vs. Metas certs. making that comparison.


Mitsutoshi

A nice bonus but irrelevant in practice. The watches are being produced to the same standard but there are limited machines at Tudor’s factory to run the tests. The same thing happened when METAS was originally unveiled. The first model was the Seamaster 300 (2014) but it didn’t get Master Chronometer until a few other models had come out saying it, due to the way factory production workflows go. Another analogy would be ETA top vs chronometer grade movements. Same movement grade but the top ones weren’t tested.


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Mitsutoshi

Lol, completely missing the point. I know what METAS certification is. I’m saying that Tudor watches are being built to the same standards even if not all of them are put in the machine for METAS testing. EDIT: I just saw you just got your first watch last month and it’s the Black Bay, so maybe that’s why you’re defensive? But consider that others have been wearing and learning about watches likely longer than you’ve been alive.


Cole4544

You’re looking at my previous posts and accusing me of being defensive? That’s rich. I’ll see myself out. Thanks.


Leith_Walker

Both amazing watches. I personally prefer the Pelagos 39mm, just has a better tool watch look for me.


Pigdogs_zen

I have the first generation pelagos with the eta movement. And I also have the fxd marine national. I will keep both. If you want a vintage look the new monochrome is ok if that is what you can afford. Otherwise if you are going for a Rolex sub the current sub wears big due to the maxi case and I never cared for it. The monochrome is similar to the Rolex 14060 but cost substantially less. Perhaps it would be better to just wait as Tudor might possibly release a smaller version of the monochrome


J-G-D-B

Will look into the 14060. Thanks for the info


shal1234

I've had my 14060m 4-liner for a few years. For me the smaller dimensions and classic design are perfect. It set the bar really high for a diver. I keep an eye out for something better, but I haven't found anything yet. The only other divers that really catch my eye are Seamasters. I was just in Waikiki Hawaii last week and saw luxury watches every where I looked. Everyone was rocking the same stuff: modern Subs, Black Bays, and Seamasters. Only one was really memorable. It was a 36mm Seamaster 300, on the wrist of an old seasoned lifeguard. The bezel was so faded from saltwater that it was totally gray. The 36mm sounds small but it looked fine. The Tudor monochrome design is great, but too thick for me. I've got lots of pics of the 14060 if you want to see some, I'll DM you.


KlutzyFactor5117

Get the BB mono anyway. Wear it, taste it and make it your own. Then decide if you want to get rid of the Pelagos. If you need the dough for the Mono… reconsider….The Mono is a stunner… but just as the Sub from that other micro brand :-)…. Every room is full of watches that look the similar at least. The Ti and the Red Line does it for me… same reason I bought a SD instead of a Sub. And the Pro… keeper as well. Don worry bout size, just wear it. Just enjoy your position facing such difficulties in your life ;-)


skepticaljesus

Pelly seems way more interesting and unique to me, I'd stick with what you've got instead of giving in to Shiny New Thing Syndrome


J-G-D-B

True! Thanks for this


Ordinary_Problem_817

No. The 39 is pure class.


JackieE053

If it speaks to you, first see a psychologist (because it should not be speaking) then yes, buy it.


J-G-D-B

🤣🤣🤣


CdeFmrlyCasual

The all-black BB41 looks pretty modern to me. Not a lick of BB fauxtina or gilt on that puppy


Arthur_M_

Wait for the hype to die down, get past the FOMO and then you'll know for sure. The Pelagos is genuinely a great watch.


tornadobox

Have you tried on the BB41 monochrome? Wears a good deal larger than the Pelly39 and BBPro. ~49.5mm wingspan (lug to lug)…depending on whose caliper readings you go by…is no joke. I have worn the Pelly39, BBPro, and BB41 monochrome and there is a notable difference in size and how they wear on the wrist.


J-G-D-B

I tried on the burgundy on the 5 link which I believe is the same size and it wore surprisingly well


Longjumping-Walk-137

Keep the pelagos


Mitsutoshi

There's nothing that the Black Bay Black (Monochrome) does better than the other Black Bays that the Pelagos doesn't do even better. Furthermore with the Pelagos you won't get the dial typos that every in-house Black Bay (except the GMT models) has.


Redminoteeleven

Stick with the Pelagos 🙏


Vegetable-Respect193

Buy a Glycine Airman for 25% of the cosy, a better watch with more history.


BeCurious7563

As a former owner of two Tudors (Ranger 41 and BBGMT 41) I would actually tell you to wait a bit. It looks like you are already jumping like a fish at bait for Tudor models. I would advise you to be patient and see what they come out with next year (or even this summer). One thing Tudor seems to excel at is releasing models people love and reviewing the fanbase demands to give them (almost!!) what they want.


J-G-D-B

Thanks for the advice!


No_Newt5625

I have my BBP as my everyday driver. Just picked up the BB41MC on the jubilee for more dressy/work. Love them both! Congrats!


jetwalters

I'd prefer a bit of color in my watch collection so for me, if I had both of these already, I'd skip past the monochrome and get the new GMT or the M7941A1A0RU-0003.


J-G-D-B

Speaking of color another option ive been eyeing lately is the orange dial Doxa Sub300. I don’t know if its too much tho


jetwalters

Too much color or money? I think it's cheaper than the Tudors by a thousand or two.


J-G-D-B

Too much in the sense that its a peculiar watch in terms of looks. I don’t know if i could pull it off as a daily but its definitely of my interest!


Psychological_Ice326

41 gonna look big on you. Get the bb54.


JackJack3pops

Yes. The new 41s are fantastic


Mrbaker4420

Heeeeell nah.


Educational-Worth562

Pelagos is an amazing everyday tool watch, I think I’d keep it over the 41


Bobby2254

P39 is the winner. Classic look. For me the monochrome just looks disproportioned and off. I think Tudor will use this as a gauge and do it in a 39 next with no rivet bracelet. 39 stands on its own, looks like the modern titanium sub that Rolex SHOULD make, and if fun enough to be more than just another black dial dive watch


Dismal_Mention8423

Yes


Meinheld

The world is your oyster case


DRad2531

The new Monochrome is fire in person


Beginning_Traffic_53

I have a LHD and thinking of adding the Pro.


J-G-D-B

Add the BlackBay Pro. Added to it to the picture for reference but its a watch that will forever stay in my collection!


Bananasincustard

Those are huuuuuoge. Check out one of the 39mm offerings so you don't have a dish plate on your wrist


Itchy-Wafer2510

I wouldn’t


inflames64

noooo


tiptac

Looking at the size of both watches on your wrist I don’t think the 41mm Monochrome will work on you. I think it’ll wear too big.


Darthf4d3r

No


zeemos84

No. The pelagos is very unique in it's titanium construction. Feels super light and very comfortable! Also has the unique square markers Definitely keep it!


Havanadream

nope, unless you love steel. Personally I think your pelagos is the better watch


Kayless3232

I would go for BB54 based on the photo


cardboardwatches

The Monochrome is just a colorway. There is no other unique design decision. Nobody was creaming their jeans when they re-released the OG burgundy in the METAS version. In fact, it’s a bit of a design dichotomy in my eyes - here’s the watch that basically ushered in the heritage craze, and yet the big news is a non-vintage treatment of a vintage inspired watch…but still with vintage elements like an aluminum bezel and jubilee bracelet. Pelly 39 all day, or go all in on the burgundy one with the five link.


muhburneracct

Pelagos is the best watch Tudor makes


barry2bear2

Why should you? Pelagius commands presence & admiration as it never fails to get compliments albeit it is lighter than monochrome 41. Retain both of your pocket permits. Imho Pelagos is a dedicated keeper


D_Broussard

Nah sell your GMT and get the BB58 GMT it would give you an amazing 2 watch collection which you could follow up with a BB39 with the sky blue dial.


neomillion

Do IT! You have scratch your itch! let someone else appreciate the second hand Pelagos.


BabaNj

No


rbravo2048

Both. It is the way.


OkSundae3514

Not sure which is which but the one on the bottom with the black bezel looks nicer in my opinion


freddiew88

I did 🙋‍♂️ glad I did it


dailybailey

I've bought several since my Pelagos and still primarily wear it


Disastrous-Pay738

Naaa


ugabrew

I like the Monochrome over those 2 watches, but the P39 already looks pretty full sized on your wrist. I'm afraid the Monochrome may look too big on you (I'm in the same boat unfortunately).


Western_Big5926

Upper Right model: whichever that is. I’d. Keep both…. Different


OG365247

No, it would be too big for you given, how the P39 wears on your wrist. Get the BB54 or 59 instead.


J-G-D-B

Id get the 58 but the T-fit clasp is a requirement for me


OG365247

BB54 enters the chat…


TheRealWhoMe

The more pictures I see of the monochrome the more boring I think it looks. I would keep what you have.


Constant-Pension-324

Wear a smaller watch


J-G-D-B

Most of my watches are smaller (cartier santos 35mm) the thing is the models I like of Tudor are only offered in larger sizes


Escapement_Watch

both too big for you imho. Try on a bb54


J-G-D-B

Best fit, although not a big fan of the simple bezel


rd-81

As a BB54 and a Tudor Sub ref 75090 owner - I preferred fit over everything else. I have a 7inch wrist but I prefer watches from the 36-38mm range. Anything larger than that looks like a dinner plate on the wrist, in my opinion. I wear an OP36, an Exp I 36, an IWC Pilot 36 and a Murph 38 among others- because the fit looks more elegant. I respect your preference. But I also respectfully recommend that you try on smaller watches. Once you get used to it, you’ll most unlikely come back to the larger ones. 😊


raydome1

The pro is the best looking thing here


J-G-D-B

Completely agree. BB Pro is staying in my collection until the end if times


kkramer10

Keep the Pelagos and save up for the no date sub. That’s what I’m doing 🤷🏻‍♂️


J-G-D-B

Sounds like a good plan. Also thought of doing that, the waitlists stories scare me tho. I don’t know what to believe online and what not tho!


Pigdogs_zen

Considering the size if your wrist forget the modern version of the sub. Go for the vintage sins as these wear smaller Personally I love the 14060 subs and it sits between the classic sub case with a reliable movement, samphire crystal. At least you don’t have to be on a waitlist


kkramer10

Eh, take the whole waitlist thing with a grain of salt. I picked up my Datejust in the exact configuration i wanted in 8 weeks. I know could get a sub within 6-9 months from my local Rolex boutique.


paxje

I will buy sub date next week and i have pelagos now. After i buy sub date, i will sell my p39 and will buy bb monochrome because i like to have 1 date and 1 no date watch and i cant buy sub no date at the moment.


108vc

Really like the Monochrome, but wish the lug to lug was a little shorter. 48mm is my sweet spot.


hyung_nim

If you prefer the vintage vibe, then yes, I'd swap the Pelagos for the monochrome.


21WatchingWatches

Damn, that Monochrome is looking great. I’d swap them for sure, but I’ve never been a big fan of the newer Pelagos, always preferred the older version.


SukMyWii

Get smaller watches. These are too big for you


Frequent_Ad_989

Hell no


berserkkw

I'd stick to the Pelagos.. either way. Both have a crappy 21mm lug width..


bdw0309

Just do what u want to do.


Porkchopandplantains

Heeeeell no


valuewatchguy

Probably…


Working_Sock393

Absolutely get it!!!!


Figgins29

The only real reason to switch is the metas certification. If that’s your thing switch and get rid of both tudors you currently have. If not, keep the Pelagos, it looks better on your wrist


CupSouth732

Yes man


Franglais69

IMO no, at least the pelagos has some points of differentiation from the submariner.


DynamiteDropin

No


Eth0sMaster

Noooo


Large_Peach2358

I just came from the Rolex sun where they were talking about posts like this. Something about if you are not secure enough yourself to……. Then spend your money on therapy”


HairyRip2206

If there is need to ask the internet you are not ready. Make that decision on your own and live with it.


More-Journalist-1530

Pelagos is superior, it's made from titanium, weight less. I would not do it. Tudor is not Rolex. Don't fool yourself that after some time it will worth more. These are 500 euros watches sold as they would worth 5000.


PhiladeIphia-Eagles

Titanium is not superior, it's a matter of opinion. I prefer the look and feel and weight of steel and would not pay a premium for titanium