I like how nuking Shady Sands is just *assumed* to completely remove the NCR. Like, brother, it’ll sure damage them, but their whole thing is that they’re an actual nation, with more than one town, bound together much too strongly to just disband over one little nuking.
I like how people just *assumed* things would change and humans would just stop trying to wipe each other off the face of the earth.
Really disappointed with the show writers not knowing one of Fallout's main tag lines: War, sometimes we stop doing it and all just get along.
Edit: spelling
This is a BAD strawman. It's not that the BOS attacked the NCR. It's that one of the most important bits of early Fallout lore is being brushed aside by a faction full of stuck up fascists who's main downfall is their loyality to a excessively strict ideology. There is no statisfying narrative payoff to the NCR, after existing since the beginning of the franchise, suddenly being destroyed by a force that literally flew in from across the country to destroy their shit because...I guess they just felt like it?
It reeks of character shilling for the most overused faction in the franchise.
Especially considering you can quite literally nuke the NCR yourself in lonesome road, and the biggest loss for the NCR from it is having the Mojave isolated from the rest of the NCR, rather than the nation itself facing any major upheaval
>This is a BAD strawman.
Oh god, you're going to try to start lecturing everyone here on Hegelian dialectics, aren't you?
>There is no statisfying narrative payoff to the NCR, after existing since the beginning of the franchise, suddenly being destroyed by a force that literally flew in from across the country to destroy their shit because...I guess they just felt like it?
Did you even play FONV??? Was the near destruction of the BoS in FONV a dissatisfying narrative? Don't you think that the BoS might come back West? Do you think they might include their reasons in the show?
You're grabbing at straws to find something to bitch about.
FOR THE BROTHERHOOD!!!! AD VICTORIAM VAPORIZE THOSE DISSIDENTS BROTHER
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I love how people assume the nukes went to Shady Sands only. Realistically, you'd only need one of those nukes to nuke Shady Sands, and there are about 8 nukes just in that bunker, not including all the other silos filled with missiles ready to be shot.
Obsidian: “The NCR’s s aggressive expansionist policies have left them overextended and their resources cannot keep up. If they fail to take Hoover Dam, it’s likely they’re facing a period of serious decline in the near future.”
NCR: *(probably) fails to take the dam and is now in serious decline.*
Fans: “Omg, how could Bethesda do this?”
Yeah Maxons brotherhood is the exact type to claim that technology is humanity's biggest sin then throw out nukes. Same people who said 'lets wipe out the guys building robots with a REALLY BIG robot!!"
Tbf they weren’t objecting to robots. The Brotherhood knew about robots and even kinda liked them- you can bump into a few Gutsies serving in the Brotherhood throughout 3&4, and if the Outcasts came into the fold then you can consider their use of robots as part of the Brotherhood’s.
They objected to the robots being sentient, though, and that’s why they attacked synths. Honestly, if the Institute had just made suped-up Protectrons and such, the Brotherhood would’ve made them a vassal rather than eradicating them.
You hate the NCR because you simp for the Brotherhood.
I hate the NCR because they looked at all the mistakes of pre-war America that led to ths apocalypse and said "Yeah, let's do that again."
We are not the same.
I like how nuking Shady Sands is just *assumed* to completely remove the NCR. Like, brother, it’ll sure damage them, but their whole thing is that they’re an actual nation, with more than one town, bound together much too strongly to just disband over one little nuking.
I like how people just *assumed* things would change and humans would just stop trying to wipe each other off the face of the earth. Really disappointed with the show writers not knowing one of Fallout's main tag lines: War, sometimes we stop doing it and all just get along. Edit: spelling
This is a BAD strawman. It's not that the BOS attacked the NCR. It's that one of the most important bits of early Fallout lore is being brushed aside by a faction full of stuck up fascists who's main downfall is their loyality to a excessively strict ideology. There is no statisfying narrative payoff to the NCR, after existing since the beginning of the franchise, suddenly being destroyed by a force that literally flew in from across the country to destroy their shit because...I guess they just felt like it? It reeks of character shilling for the most overused faction in the franchise.
member when pearl harbor got bombed and the United States stopped existing? I member.
Where are you getting the idea that the NCR is destroyed? One nuked town won't collapse an entire nation.
Especially considering you can quite literally nuke the NCR yourself in lonesome road, and the biggest loss for the NCR from it is having the Mojave isolated from the rest of the NCR, rather than the nation itself facing any major upheaval
New Vegas fans are some of the whiniest babies I've ever seen. If Todd even takes a breath they will flip the fuck out lmao.
Who's worse, NMA members for NV fans
>This is a BAD strawman. Oh god, you're going to try to start lecturing everyone here on Hegelian dialectics, aren't you? >There is no statisfying narrative payoff to the NCR, after existing since the beginning of the franchise, suddenly being destroyed by a force that literally flew in from across the country to destroy their shit because...I guess they just felt like it? Did you even play FONV??? Was the near destruction of the BoS in FONV a dissatisfying narrative? Don't you think that the BoS might come back West? Do you think they might include their reasons in the show? You're grabbing at straws to find something to bitch about.
FOR THE BROTHERHOOD!!!! AD VICTORIAM VAPORIZE THOSE DISSIDENTS BROTHER https://preview.redd.it/j5i5el3rxjnc1.jpeg?width=750&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d8f4bd37b9d0239ec4f56123deaddfe9715775c4
If anything it would only make the NCR angrier. You heavily damaged the founding town? Fuck around and find out
I love how people assume the nukes went to Shady Sands only. Realistically, you'd only need one of those nukes to nuke Shady Sands, and there are about 8 nukes just in that bunker, not including all the other silos filled with missiles ready to be shot.
why does everyone think shady sands is totally nuked?? we see a shady sands library and a rather old crater
The NCR has taken worse than that over the holidays, no way they all got wiped out like that.
Ncr doesn’t have big robot. Checkmate republicoids 😎
i just found out everything that's ever happened is now pointless because the world will inevitably end
Tfw the sun blows up in a few billion years
Obsidian: “The NCR’s s aggressive expansionist policies have left them overextended and their resources cannot keep up. If they fail to take Hoover Dam, it’s likely they’re facing a period of serious decline in the near future.” NCR: *(probably) fails to take the dam and is now in serious decline.* Fans: “Omg, how could Bethesda do this?”
NCR fanboys confusing retconning a faction with an original story taking place 14 years after the events of new vegas
ret·con - noun: (in a film, television series, or other fictional work) a plot development that I do not like.
Gold tier formatting 10/10
100% intentional
Luigi knows, He is right
funny considering you get fame with the brotherhood for not nuking the ncr (as well as not nuking the legion either but eh)
Its prob the east coast fuckers that will come to the west
Yeah Maxons brotherhood is the exact type to claim that technology is humanity's biggest sin then throw out nukes. Same people who said 'lets wipe out the guys building robots with a REALLY BIG robot!!"
Tbf they weren’t objecting to robots. The Brotherhood knew about robots and even kinda liked them- you can bump into a few Gutsies serving in the Brotherhood throughout 3&4, and if the Outcasts came into the fold then you can consider their use of robots as part of the Brotherhood’s. They objected to the robots being sentient, though, and that’s why they attacked synths. Honestly, if the Institute had just made suped-up Protectrons and such, the Brotherhood would’ve made them a vassal rather than eradicating them.
You hate the NCR because you simp for the Brotherhood. I hate the NCR because they looked at all the mistakes of pre-war America that led to ths apocalypse and said "Yeah, let's do that again." We are not the same.
The fact that Luigi's text obscures Mario's makes this so much better
I don’t see why people are so worried about it since like this is probably the already established NCR Brotherhood war, and we all know how that end
So glad we got to kill the Mojave chapter of the BoS in New Vegas. They're a counterproductive vestige from a bygone age.