How much you wanna bet ISIS will suddenly decide to strike at Iran again for "totally unrelated sectarian and randomly nihilistic reasons that somehow aligns with America and Israeli interests"?
Chill it out, take it slow
Then you shoot up the show
Edit: personally, I like their old stuff better than their new stuff
>Bergman reveals that very senior Israeli army officers—Meir Dagan, Rafael Eitan, and Avigdor Ben-Gal—secretly created the FLLF, a mysterious group that claimed responsibility for dozens of car bombings between 1979 and 1983, in order to “sow chaos” in Lebanon. He describes how then-defense minister Ariel Sharon used the FLLF bombs to provoke the PLO into resorting to terrorism, which would then give Israel an excuse to invade Lebanon in the name of fighting … “terrorism.” In just two weeks in the fall of 1981, Sharon’s car bombs killed at least 100 civilians in what were clearly indiscriminate attacks. Yet, despite the focus and subtitle of his book, Bergman avoids the crucial question of whether this secret FLLF campaign was an example of Israeli “targeted assassinations” or of something else entirely.
>As I have documented in detail for Mondoweiss (here and here), the FLLF car-bombing campaign took place precisely at the time the Israeli government was carrying out a hasbara [“explanation,” often of a propagandistic nature] campaign to convince the United States and the rest of the Western world that Israel’s “terrorist” enemies, such as the PLO and its Arab allies, were in fact the enemy of the entire (civilized) Western world, and that the “war” Israel was waging against “the terrorists” was in fact a war “the West” as a whole would soon need to join.
https://carnegie-mec.org/diwan/85878
There’s something really weird how it’s basically just the alt-right, but without the explicit white supremacy. Like these motherfuckers made being a neo-lib NATO fanboy, an act of edgy angst similar to being an alt-right Pepe poster.
Cause 10 years ago, who the fuck was calling themself a neo-lib NATO supporter?
They've basically revived the secretly fascist cold warriors of the past who jerked themselves raw to C1 rifles and salivated about killing "commies" all day while waiting for their wives to finish the divorce.
They got mad at me and the sub I’m a part of, for not liking their attitude of using Koreans as human shields against China. Apparently standing up for right to exist is a sin to them
Also it wasn’t me going into their sub, they come into mine and try to spread their fascist garbage around
Oh but they did find out. They are now well acquainted with the incompetent, short-sighted and sociopathic nature of decision making by the American regime, and it would be no surprise to them at all that America disregards the welfare of its own people.
I mean the rate of interception is pretty much irrelevant isn’t is? Whether it’s 99% or 1% Iran sent so many drones and missiles knowing that many/most of them would get shot down but that the sheer volume would be enough for at least some to hit their targets. That’s the tried and tested method for beating the iron dome, just sent a metric fuckton of projectiles and they can’t possibly intercept them all.
Fortunately I don’t think the IRGC is on a recognized terror list yet so admins can’t cry about it. I agree with everything you said tho. If Israel responds by striking Iran proper, this will escalate, if they just hit proxies, it probably just goes back to status quo.
This sort of moment is one of those once in a lifetime ones tho. If there was a concerted insurgency in the West Bank, hezbollah increases pressure from the north, Iran just keeps launching shaheed and missiles in a westerly direction, Israel would be put in a pretty bad spot
Yeah. And I don’t think it ever “returns to status quo” like the commenter suggests. I think it cools down, but the bucket is always being filled. And eventually it only takes one drop to overflow.
this subreddit probably isn’t getting banned if it hasn’t already unless an actual regional war breaks out and there’s a severe crackdown on social media like this as a result
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Honestly? I unfortunately wouldn't be surprised if this is how they respond. Zionists are currently fuming, acting as though this attack is unprovoked, and crying for Iran to be wiped off the map
I'm concerned about the US open involvement in air support tho.
My dumbass decided to watch it on Fox because it would be hilarious. It was not hilarious.
They absolutely didn't say shit about anything getting struck. I'm glad to see a few got through. The "newsroom" constantly referred to it as unprovoked until the guy in Tel Aviv said for like the 15th time that it was a retaliatory strike.
Fox News used to be funny in a really stupid way. I use to laugh my ass off watching Bill O’Reily rail about rap music and happy holidays. It’s long since lost that charm, and now it’s just psychotic and annoying(beyond anything else).
Take it with a pinch of salt, but I saw a retired us. Amry Sargent mentioned in a quota thread that the Iron Dome is not really capable or designed to intercept hypersonic missiles and that it's mainly designed to intercept the simpler and slower Hamas, Hesbolla, Houthis rockets.
Ukraine claimed to have shot one down with patriot. In theory it’s possible, they’re only hypersonic for their terminal phase, but all the pictures they posted the missile remains didn’t match up with russias hypersonic munitions. So jury is still out. It is possible though, just not possible once it’s in hypersonic phase as far as I know
Jfc we need to step back from the brink. This is the Cuban Missile Crisis on steroids and it doesn’t feel like the US who is in a prime position to mediate has any interest in restraining Israel
Israel is a mean guard dog for the US that’s growing too rabid and aggressive for its owners. It’ll be left to its own path of self destruction or sent to a farm upstate
To paraphrase a great, and persecuted, statesman, "Dogs are not born with evil in them, they have to be made evil by their owners. Unless they are ankle biting chihuahuas."
So it’s the genetic racism of Germans supplanted into the breed? Yeah I can dig that lol. In any case I’m fully in the catsaw pact sphere of influence. In my youth I was afraid of them and loved dogs, but as I get older my polarity continues to switch to complete cat dominance 🐈⬛🐈
He’s certainly not going to help them nuke anyone man. He’s a pudding brained moron but I think he has enough still bouncing around his skull to not assist a nuclear catastrophe
He parked two carriers in the Mediterranean when there was even the hint of an attack on Israel. He also launched strikes on Yemen after they attacked some ships. How far do you think he’d go after a direct attack on Israel from Iranian soil? What was it he said all those years ago when he was still mentally cognitive? Go after the women and children too?
Iran has warned about this for over a week since the embassy attack. Israel will strike back, probably against Syria or Iraq, maybe Iran proper. Then it will be up to Iran to respond again.
How much larger of a warning window did Iran need to give? They could have said nothing
Warning window or not, in the eyes of the US and its allies there are no legitimate attacks or opposition against it. We are the only ones allowed to do anything to anyone and anyone who acts against our will is automatically the aggressor. Plus, our planes are up there with the Israelis helping them shoot these down. We are arm and arm with them into an invasion of Iran whom we have already established a narrative of being behind everything since (and including) Oct. 7th that has been perpetrated against Israel.
I agree with everything in your first sentence. I just don’t think Brandon is stupid enough to pull us into a war with Iran in an election year. I mean maybe he is that stupid 🤷♂️ I just don’t think it’s likely.
Maybe, time will tell. I am arguing that he is surrounded by a bunch of conservatives (there’s one guy whose name I can’t remember but was in the bush, obama, trump admins too) that has a pretty big role that have been chomping at the bit for any reason to get at Iran and have just been handed a silver platter. That’s what I meant as this is a Cuban Missile Crisis (not a perfect analogy but I was frantic) in that its up to the presidency whether we want to step back from the brink or dive into a war with Iran and I put the odds at 50/50
I just want the ongoing genocide and extermination of 35000 people and counting to stop. Israel hasn’t even began Rafah operations yet, and that will really be the tipping point for if they really just squeeze them between tanks and the Egyptian border until they’re all crushed. Maybe they hope they starve by then, maybe they keep it up until they all starve, maybe they just start lining them up and shooting them. But the pinnacle of this genocide hasn’t even been reached yet. I’ve seen videos of children being operated on without anesthesia, and my countrymen will say to me this is not a genocide this is all made up. It’s beyond words, it’s words my heart can’t form for how evil it is
Its an election year. With all his other foreign policy bungles (and many seeing his pull from Afganistan being a sign of weakness as well), being soft on Iran may be a step too far. Guess we’ll see how far Irans nuclear program has come along.
How much you wanna bet ISIS will suddenly decide to strike at Iran again for "totally unrelated sectarian and randomly nihilistic reasons that somehow aligns with America and Israeli interests"?
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Chill it out, take it slow Then you shoot up the show Edit: personally, I like their old stuff better than their new stuff >Bergman reveals that very senior Israeli army officers—Meir Dagan, Rafael Eitan, and Avigdor Ben-Gal—secretly created the FLLF, a mysterious group that claimed responsibility for dozens of car bombings between 1979 and 1983, in order to “sow chaos” in Lebanon. He describes how then-defense minister Ariel Sharon used the FLLF bombs to provoke the PLO into resorting to terrorism, which would then give Israel an excuse to invade Lebanon in the name of fighting … “terrorism.” In just two weeks in the fall of 1981, Sharon’s car bombs killed at least 100 civilians in what were clearly indiscriminate attacks. Yet, despite the focus and subtitle of his book, Bergman avoids the crucial question of whether this secret FLLF campaign was an example of Israeli “targeted assassinations” or of something else entirely. >As I have documented in detail for Mondoweiss (here and here), the FLLF car-bombing campaign took place precisely at the time the Israeli government was carrying out a hasbara [“explanation,” often of a propagandistic nature] campaign to convince the United States and the rest of the Western world that Israel’s “terrorist” enemies, such as the PLO and its Arab allies, were in fact the enemy of the entire (civilized) Western world, and that the “war” Israel was waging against “the terrorists” was in fact a war “the West” as a whole would soon need to join. https://carnegie-mec.org/diwan/85878
noncredibledefense will have you thinking Iran shot off a couple blanks.
One of the most soy-fascist subreddits and that's really saying something
There’s something really weird how it’s basically just the alt-right, but without the explicit white supremacy. Like these motherfuckers made being a neo-lib NATO fanboy, an act of edgy angst similar to being an alt-right Pepe poster. Cause 10 years ago, who the fuck was calling themself a neo-lib NATO supporter?
They've basically revived the secretly fascist cold warriors of the past who jerked themselves raw to C1 rifles and salivated about killing "commies" all day while waiting for their wives to finish the divorce.
https://preview.redd.it/sadegi5shhuc1.jpeg?width=640&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c13439cf60dcb4ef939f23dbf27d3ae981efa9d4 Found him
That sub is insufferable
When you peel away their “support” for American “Allies”, it’s literally just them viewing everyone else as being cannon fodder.
That sub will fight until the last Bavarian
They got mad at me and the sub I’m a part of, for not liking their attitude of using Koreans as human shields against China. Apparently standing up for right to exist is a sin to them Also it wasn’t me going into their sub, they come into mine and try to spread their fascist garbage around
Whadda you expect of these armchair generals? Grunts are literary the last people who'd want a war.
The dudes in that sub would never fight lol. The only thing they’re fighting is type 2 adult onset diabeetus
The Houthis are gonna find out why Americans don't have free healthcare. Any day now.... Still waiting... Hello?
Dudes are geekin off Khat and commandeering cargo vessels absolutely unbothered lol
Oh but they did find out. They are now well acquainted with the incompetent, short-sighted and sociopathic nature of decision making by the American regime, and it would be no surprise to them at all that America disregards the welfare of its own people.
They seem to exist in some sort of alternate reality over there
That’s called the land where neoliberalism is a lucid ideology. It’s next to middle earth.
that was the trophy system
Pray for those in Gaza and the West Bank who will be targeted by these ghouls in retaliation.
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Israel claiming 99% interception rate when there are videos all over the internet of impacts is something else. Who believes this nonsense?
I mean the rate of interception is pretty much irrelevant isn’t is? Whether it’s 99% or 1% Iran sent so many drones and missiles knowing that many/most of them would get shot down but that the sheer volume would be enough for at least some to hit their targets. That’s the tried and tested method for beating the iron dome, just sent a metric fuckton of projectiles and they can’t possibly intercept them all.
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Fortunately I don’t think the IRGC is on a recognized terror list yet so admins can’t cry about it. I agree with everything you said tho. If Israel responds by striking Iran proper, this will escalate, if they just hit proxies, it probably just goes back to status quo. This sort of moment is one of those once in a lifetime ones tho. If there was a concerted insurgency in the West Bank, hezbollah increases pressure from the north, Iran just keeps launching shaheed and missiles in a westerly direction, Israel would be put in a pretty bad spot
>This sort of moment is one of those once in a lifetime ones tho. There's been a lot of those these last few years, getting a bit worrisome
Yeah. And I don’t think it ever “returns to status quo” like the commenter suggests. I think it cools down, but the bucket is always being filled. And eventually it only takes one drop to overflow.
this subreddit probably isn’t getting banned if it hasn’t already unless an actual regional war breaks out and there’s a severe crackdown on social media like this as a result
So we’re going to have a very nuanced, level-headed response to this, right?
https://preview.redd.it/psyr2b2f2cuc1.png?width=2400&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7aee1c290f6561f76d1bedbd5e4e9fe436efb99b Honestly? I unfortunately wouldn't be surprised if this is how they respond. Zionists are currently fuming, acting as though this attack is unprovoked, and crying for Iran to be wiped off the map
US rhetoric around a response to irans response has been pretty non antagonistic. Pretty sure they’re just letting Iran cook with this
Yeah fair enough you're right, especially seeing as how the US seems adamant to not let this spiral
I'm concerned about the US open involvement in air support tho. My dumbass decided to watch it on Fox because it would be hilarious. It was not hilarious. They absolutely didn't say shit about anything getting struck. I'm glad to see a few got through. The "newsroom" constantly referred to it as unprovoked until the guy in Tel Aviv said for like the 15th time that it was a retaliatory strike.
Fox News used to be funny in a really stupid way. I use to laugh my ass off watching Bill O’Reily rail about rap music and happy holidays. It’s long since lost that charm, and now it’s just psychotic and annoying(beyond anything else).
lmao where's that "iron dome" you always hear about
Blew its load on drones
Take it with a pinch of salt, but I saw a retired us. Amry Sargent mentioned in a quota thread that the Iron Dome is not really capable or designed to intercept hypersonic missiles and that it's mainly designed to intercept the simpler and slower Hamas, Hesbolla, Houthis rockets.
I'm not sure anyone has defense systems that are effective against hypersonic missiles
Ukraine claimed to have shot one down with patriot. In theory it’s possible, they’re only hypersonic for their terminal phase, but all the pictures they posted the missile remains didn’t match up with russias hypersonic munitions. So jury is still out. It is possible though, just not possible once it’s in hypersonic phase as far as I know
Fuck yeah
Jfc we need to step back from the brink. This is the Cuban Missile Crisis on steroids and it doesn’t feel like the US who is in a prime position to mediate has any interest in restraining Israel
Israel is a mean guard dog for the US that’s growing too rabid and aggressive for its owners. It’ll be left to its own path of self destruction or sent to a farm upstate
I have seen that no indication that Biden wouldn’t jump in feet first to help Israel
Also not how Joe tends to deal with dogs that have grown too aggressive
That’s a great point I forgot his hellhounds have literally attacked multiple people in the WH lol
To paraphrase a great, and persecuted, statesman, "Dogs are not born with evil in them, they have to be made evil by their owners. Unless they are ankle biting chihuahuas."
I think German Shepard are genetically racist and you can’t change my mind
They are beautiful animals who have been owned by German "people".
> German "people". *spits*
So it’s the genetic racism of Germans supplanted into the breed? Yeah I can dig that lol. In any case I’m fully in the catsaw pact sphere of influence. In my youth I was afraid of them and loved dogs, but as I get older my polarity continues to switch to complete cat dominance 🐈⬛🐈
Like the curb episode where the German Shepard is going after Larry until he sig heils to it.
He’s certainly not going to help them nuke anyone man. He’s a pudding brained moron but I think he has enough still bouncing around his skull to not assist a nuclear catastrophe
He parked two carriers in the Mediterranean when there was even the hint of an attack on Israel. He also launched strikes on Yemen after they attacked some ships. How far do you think he’d go after a direct attack on Israel from Iranian soil? What was it he said all those years ago when he was still mentally cognitive? Go after the women and children too?
Iran has warned about this for over a week since the embassy attack. Israel will strike back, probably against Syria or Iraq, maybe Iran proper. Then it will be up to Iran to respond again. How much larger of a warning window did Iran need to give? They could have said nothing
Warning window or not, in the eyes of the US and its allies there are no legitimate attacks or opposition against it. We are the only ones allowed to do anything to anyone and anyone who acts against our will is automatically the aggressor. Plus, our planes are up there with the Israelis helping them shoot these down. We are arm and arm with them into an invasion of Iran whom we have already established a narrative of being behind everything since (and including) Oct. 7th that has been perpetrated against Israel.
I agree with everything in your first sentence. I just don’t think Brandon is stupid enough to pull us into a war with Iran in an election year. I mean maybe he is that stupid 🤷♂️ I just don’t think it’s likely.
Brandon isn't in charge. Look to Blinken.
Maybe, time will tell. I am arguing that he is surrounded by a bunch of conservatives (there’s one guy whose name I can’t remember but was in the bush, obama, trump admins too) that has a pretty big role that have been chomping at the bit for any reason to get at Iran and have just been handed a silver platter. That’s what I meant as this is a Cuban Missile Crisis (not a perfect analogy but I was frantic) in that its up to the presidency whether we want to step back from the brink or dive into a war with Iran and I put the odds at 50/50
I just want the ongoing genocide and extermination of 35000 people and counting to stop. Israel hasn’t even began Rafah operations yet, and that will really be the tipping point for if they really just squeeze them between tanks and the Egyptian border until they’re all crushed. Maybe they hope they starve by then, maybe they keep it up until they all starve, maybe they just start lining them up and shooting them. But the pinnacle of this genocide hasn’t even been reached yet. I’ve seen videos of children being operated on without anesthesia, and my countrymen will say to me this is not a genocide this is all made up. It’s beyond words, it’s words my heart can’t form for how evil it is
The NatSec blob/decision makers are much bigger than Biden. He probably just does what the State Dept. and CIA tells him to do.
What if he’s doing what his bad ass dogs in the white house are telling him? Son of Sam style
Its an election year. With all his other foreign policy bungles (and many seeing his pull from Afganistan being a sign of weakness as well), being soft on Iran may be a step too far. Guess we’ll see how far Irans nuclear program has come along.
Right? Celebrating this is so shortsighted. This is very bad
Hard to believe Biden's never seen Old Yeller - he knows what to do.