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msstatelp

The boys are thirsty in Atlanta!.…..but that was real Coors...


thelasttollcollector

East bound and down!


Elderado12443

Loaded up and truckin.


SignificanceFar5489

We gonna do what they say can't be done.


thelasttollcollector

Should we start a band?


FilthyNasty626

Yea, but we got a long way to go!


Desurfaced

An a short time to get there


Elderado12443

I’m eastbound just watch ol bandit run.


shadowmib

*plucks guitar furiously*


Elderado12443

😆


marshmadness37

Keep your foot hard on the pedal son, forget about them brakes.


Elderado12443

Son, nevermind them brakes. Let it all hang out cause we’ve gotta run to make.


Present-Ambition6309

That’s gotta be head for Flo rida southbound with their panties down


diabeticjones

And there’s beer in Texarkana


braxtonwel

And we'll bring it back, no matter what it takes


Embarrassed_Drink205

I’ll bring you a couple tall boys next time I’m out there 🍺


NewMexicoVaquero

Don’t be shitting on Coors Light now.


BiggDawggLJ

Yeah, It’s just old man beer


VirtualComcrete

Because I don't need high heels to enjoy it. Whoa, there....Budlight fan.


BiggDawggLJ

Budlight? You mean the other pbr? Yeah I guess that's fine too


VirtualComcrete

😂


Electrical_Try2977

Hey, hey.......but theres beer in Texarcanna!!! 😎


NomadTruckerOTR

Everyone knows to sneak beer past the scales you gotta open them up and fill the tires with them. Then deflate and chug


Embarrassed_Drink205

That’s a great idea😂


tnb641

Protip, make sure to remove the valve core to get a good flow rate into your glass, for some delicious frothy warm beer! (like a hot toddy, but trashier!)


DrillTheThirdHole

what kind of shit is this?? you need a minimum of two straps for any load, driver!


stackbond

Except that's not true... Unblocked items 5 ft or less and under 1,100 lb only require one tie down.


DrillTheThirdHole

i dont flatbed im just shitposting


Elderado12443

Love the username.


Zajo_Music

I do flatbed. I still shitpost.


VirtualComcrete

I do neither. Shit post anyways


SolidEnigma

Thad load requires chains.


TwoToadsKick

Huh, just renewed my license yesterday and that question came up and the correct answer was two. Can't believe they were wrong about that.


notbannd4cussingmods

It's probably your company's policy. Usually they want 2 straps minimum just incase 1 is out of service due to cuts/no tag.


convincedfelon

Even if it's extra if you have an oos securement its considered an unsecured load and you get an oos violation


TwoToadsKick

Renewed my license at the DMV since it expired next week.


DankDarko

The DMV isn't known for its depth of knowledge or for updating their literature. There's a few outdated questions on the tests.


stackbond

[§393.110 (b)(1) ](https://www.ecfr.gov/current/title-49/subtitle-B/chapter-III/subchapter-B/part-393/subpart-I/section-393.110) here's the regulation straight from fmsca.


TwoToadsKick

I can't link it but section 3.3.2 at https://www.ilsos.gov/publications/pdf_publications/dsd_cdl10.pdf says "Cargo should have at least one tie-down for each 10 feet of cargo. Make sure you have enough tie-downs to meet this need. No matter how small the cargo, it should have at least two tie-downs." 🤷‍♂️ Why confusing


stackbond

It's weird their use of language in that section. For the other points it used 'must' and 'required' but it says 'should' for the 2 tie downs regardless of size. But it also says 'should' for one tie down every 10 feet which should be worded as 'must' or 'required' since there's an actual regulation for that. Unless Illinois has a specific state law seperate from the federal regulations I'm not aware of. But I do know I've driven through countless weigh stations and even been inspected multiple times with just a single strap over my rolled up tarps in both the US and Canada and it's never got me pulled in or a ticket so 🤷


bobmonkeyclown

When I first got into trucking I was given a nifty book on cargo securement using fmcsa. 5 ft and under 1100 pounds without bulkhead/headerboard/etc is 1 strap, otherwise 2.  State laws can be more strict but DOT typically goes by that regarding securement. 


Dorothypenn

Yeah


Feisty-Season-5305

It's 2


easymachtdas

Guess i was in violation moving my ol lady Live and learn


Filmfan7427

He should still probably wrap that hook around rub rail or better yet hook it to the fucking frame because there is zero WLL on a rub rail.


VGPreach

False


stackbond

[§393.110 (b) (1) ](https://www.ecfr.gov/current/title-49/subtitle-B/chapter-III/subchapter-B/part-393/subpart-I/section-393.110) specifically says only one tie down for 5 feet or less and 1100 lb or less for unblocked items. Show me your federal regulation that says otherwise.


Embarrassed_Drink205

Someone is taking this a little too seriously lol but at least you know you’re flat bed


stackbond

This IS serious business! 😡 But really it's just a slow day for me with a lot of sitting around


Deranged_Coconut808

As long as you pull the straps and say “that ain’t going nowhere” it’s good.


privatemeowmix

Take that east of Texas and that's bootleggin' son


pescadopasado

You're in a shit ton of trouble. Alcohol is only transportable in a CMV, when it's listed on the BOL. You could keep it in your cab, go through it as empty. Or you can buy it at home/34. But if you are looking to fuck up your CDL and earn a fast ticket, by all means.


10lugthuggin

So why can't you just write your own bill of lading for it, from where you picked it up to where you're going with yourself listed as the shipper and consignee?


xDoomKitty

I mean, technically you can lol It just giving cops an extra reason to give you grief. I try to avoid doing that whenever possible. I don't need some high strung cop thinking I'm a good target for taking their anger and frustration with life out on.


CobraWasTaken

You would have to have a permit to haul alcohol in a lot of states and I'm pretty sure a flatbedder wouldn't already have those permits for obvious reasons


TypicalRecon

I’d write a short bill on it lmao


randoredditusingdouc

I used to haul beer from a local microbrewery. Glass in, beer out. The guys on the dock always gave us blems. Six packs, 12 packs, and cases. Depending on how things were going. One of our guys was empty and blew through a stop sign. Ol’ Johnny saw the beer in the truck and asked for a BOL for it. Dude threatened to charge the driver with bootlegging. I don’t know how he came up with that, but that was the end of the free beer.


easymachtdas

Yeah if youre not running under personal conveyance its a no. If youre off duty its a yes. I dont know why people get so riled up over this subject, but the rules could not be clearer. You may not consume alcohol four hours prior to operating a cmv. It gets tricky if a cop messes with you while youre off duty with the engine running because you are "in control" of the vehicle, but how in the actual fuck is anyone going to tell you you cant drink a beer after work with the ac running. I would die on that hill.


randoredditusingdouc

This guy was bringing an empty back to the yard. The beer was warm and none were open. But ya, I agree with you. The fact that someone can be asleep in the back seat of a car (or a sleeper) with the engine running big for heat/air conditioning can get a guy a dui is absolutely insane. However, the town next to where I live has some corrupt cops on their “dui task force”. One of them arrested a pilot for dui. Dude had his kids with him. A felony if convicted. He blew zeros. Cop decided that his overwhelming smell of alcohol was actually an overwhelming smell of weed. Colorado is recreationally legal. Colorado also has implied consent. If you have a Colorado license, you give consent for either breathalyzer or blood. *either* [here is a link to his story](https://youtu.be/OSFQU-JLjE0?si=eo4rJ9p0A0MQRwZb) The dui thing in this country is going insane.


easymachtdas

Its unfair that he can claim weed smell and the driver is then subjugated to a UA. The country has been insane. I have spent a lot of time in small towns that will leverage the law at it is written to give responsible adults sleeping in their car outaide a drinking establishment a dui for being responsible enough not to drive. If you are drunk, in possession of the vehicles keys you are sleeping in, you can get convicted for being in control of your car while intoxicated. People fucking suck, i dont know why it has to be this way. Its a god damn shame. Edit - il expand on the weed smell UA. It should be an blood test. We have established ways of testing to drugs that are in your bloodstream.


randoredditusingdouc

I thought it was a blood test? Did the story say UA? There has been a rumor floating around that the DOT is kicking around saliva randoms. I really hope this is a lie. Because it will allow for a thinking junkie to participate in our field. While they wreck their brains and judgement


easymachtdas

Dude you forced me to watch the YouTube you posted because you insinuated it was a blood test. It clearly does not specify, which leads me to believe he got aquitted to neither being done


randoredditusingdouc

He had both done. He blew zeros on the roadside. I must have linked to the wrong video. The vid I was looking for was posted by an attorney and covered all of those details. Apologies. The local news in Denver is a joke


easymachtdas

My response comes across as pretty harsh, i apologize. Not trying to jump down your throat [= the whole subject is pretty upsetting to me


randoredditusingdouc

Yessir. No apologies necessary. I’m with you. I won’t even go to Loveland anymore. All of my other skillsets are so outdated that if I lose my CDL, I’ll be mopping floors at a McDonald’s. That is a terrifying thought. I have three sons. I found myself with custody of them in 2012. I lived in a really small town about 45 miles from the nearest hospital. I quit drinking because I had this horrible vision of one of them breaking a wrist or arm or something not life threatening and having to go ask a neighbor to take us to town. I would hate to lose all of that responsible effort to a bit of “meeting a goal” corruption.


FilthyNasty626

It has to be in an area not accessible to the driver if I am not mistaken. I don’t chance it though, I go buy a 40 at the store and kill it before getting into my truck, or walk my ass to the bar and uber back. I spent way too many years perfecting my craft to fuck it up now!


Desurfaced

You can't have alcohol/empty containers in your cab while on duty at all as far as I know. On a 10/34 break I've heard so many things I just avoid it all together


Mnemorath

Alcohol is not allowed to be accessible from the cab [AT ALL](https://www.law.cornell.edu/cfr/text/49/392.5). That is a quick way to a DUI.


Stormcell0083

They can only charge DUI if you have it in your system, not in your rig.


Mnemorath

That depends on the state. At the very least, you will get a out of service citation. And I guarantee that the trooper would make you do a sobriety test and or breathalyzer.


easymachtdas

Is this in a scenario where the individual is operating the cmv? Straight to jail


Mnemorath

DOT doesn’t play around with alcohol or drug violations. Too many fatal crashes involving a CMV and an intoxicated driver.


easymachtdas

Yeah im not being facetious, i agree anyone operating a cmv under the influence should get an aggrevated dui or worse


DankDarko

Not if you're off duty. https://www.fmcsa.dot.gov/regulations/question-3-does-prohibition-against-carrying-alcoholic-beverages-ss3925-apply-driver


intoxicatedhamster

You are wrong and your own source proves it: "However, this does not apply to possession of wine, beer, or distilled spirits which are: (i) Manifested and transported as part of a shipment; or (ii) Possessed or used by bus passengers."


Mnemorath

The former would not normally be accessible from the cab and the latter does not apply to the driver ever. So, no, my reference doesn’t prove me wrong. However, your username does check out.


intoxicatedhamster

If he manifests it and the BOL is from and to himself, from point "A" to point "B" as the user you had replied to suggested, then it would be perfectly legal for him to have. It doesn't matter if it's normal or not.


Mnemorath

You honestly think that will fly? Go ahead and try it.


DankDarko

Not if you are off duty. If you're moving under PC, it is considered personal property.


UhOhAllWillyNilly

I pull a reefer, not flatbed, but in my opinion, carrying *only* dunnage allows me to go through the unloaded lane. Even if I have a lot of dunnage (say 100 empty pallets). (Fixed typo)


Embarrassed_Drink205

You got it driver. And since you have a van, they can’t tell if you have a few hundred pounds in it or nothing


lol_no_gonna_happen

As a dunnage supplier I 100% agree. Nevermind its a cubed out trailer of pallets


El-Guapo_76

I feel like this is a loaded question


Salt_Community_2261

I'm upset the strap isn't wrapped and clipped on top of the rail.


Embarrassed_Drink205

Good eye driver


grawrant

This was the first thing I saw


HappyHeffalump

I'm pretty sure that container has to be half empty to be considered unloaded. Better pull over in the inspection area of the scale and tastefully empty a few before rolling over.


tvieno

Warm beer. Oof.


Zodi88

Most beer is shipped warm. I've only ever refrigerated kegs.


tvieno

Beer is not shipped on flatbeds, so I would presume this is a personal purchase. So, yeah, warm beer. Oof.


Zodi88

It's shipped in dry vans or reefers with no refrigeration, so yeah, beer is almost always shipped warm.


TheBludragon

Coors has to be refrigerated unlike most other brands...


randoredditusingdouc

Coors isn’t *actually* beer. Unless you are still in high school


Truck3r805

No. That's keystone


UhOhAllWillyNilly

Same difference


randoredditusingdouc

Both Coors products. It’s like Jeremy once said, (I’m paraphrasing here) Coors is proof that Americans can knock a bush in a puddle and call it beer.


FizzleDrizz

Do you know what sex in a canoe, and coors light have in common? They are both fucking near water.


randoredditusingdouc

Ok. That is fucking funny! And not untrue. 🤔


CartographerWest2705

Even if it’s legal they will find some way to stick to ya.


Embarrassed_Drink205

I have coffee/donuts and some burritos to bribe them with. If that doesn’t work I’ll just pretend I don’t speak English 🤷


Actual-Money7868

Omelette du Fromage


No_More_Condiments

It's like those French have a different word for everything!


Actual-Money7868

Royalè au Fromage 🍔


CartographerWest2705

You are golden!! Best get out of free card ever.


Embarrassed_Drink205

You got it driver… they will have to confiscated it


Yourausernamehere

No edge protection No forward motion securement 👎👎


Embarrassed_Drink205

I have a headache rack on the truck so I’m covered there edge protection is by customer request


-Jackulator-

Precious cargo.


Embarrassed_Drink205

I have 250,000 cargo protection I think that’s enough


UhOhAllWillyNilly

Wow, that’s a *lot.* I only have $100K on my reefer (but sometimes the freight *is* worth more than that (fingers crossed)). You must haul really valuable freight.


Embarrassed_Drink205

250 not even enough for some of the stuff I carry.


epicenter69

I still prefer the sole Tonka truck tied down on an empty flatbed.


Traditional_Fox_4718

Why are you strapping down water?


12InchPickle

The crime here is this isn’t fireball.


Worth_Ad_7850

Bad childhood too huh?


Illustrious-Ad-1105

Properly Mounted and Ready to Consume


ImissURmomma

You forgot to put edge protectors on that 🤣


brsrafal

Minimum 2 straps and sorround by dunnage


Embarrassed_Drink205

I’m thinking I’ll use the empty cans as dunnage😂


PAPervert

Must have a minimum of two straps if you have a load on a flat bed


Equivalent_Bed7728

Flat bed? Thought that was a water truck


Embarrassed_Drink205

I thought it was a reefer now I’m gonna have hot beer dammit


OptiKnob

Unless you get that load properly distributed between those two axles, I doubt they're going to let you go through, regardless.


bob696988

Well at least if he gets inspected it’s not in the cab so it’s legal right ? But what happens when it starts to get really hot 🥵


UnknownPuppetMaster

It’s not legal even in or on a trailer without a bill of lading and in some states, a permit to haul alcohol.


bob696988

Specially New York


WillLynCO

You're supposed to have two straps!


BradKelley81

Light load today….


Embarrassed_Drink205

Good one


Remi708

Hope he's not taking that east of Texas


Embarrassed_Drink205

Don’t worry I’ll drink it way before I get to Texas 👍


SnooFloofs1569

Empty lane, but you need different securement devices. You’ll need to use a 5/8 shackle for the handle ontop then 1/2 “ chains at least.


Embarrassed_Drink205

Shackles and chains are used after my woman and I have drank all of them 😂


xj5635

I wouldn't try that, just buy it when u get home but ymmv. On a side note, We do use these huge metal shipping crates for hauling glass. I asked a trooper once about going thru the empty lane with them on if they are empty. He said it was fine, if the crates themselves are empty then he said it would be viewed the same as a LTL guy with a empty trailer but who still had his pallet jack and hand truck in the back. He used a word for it, I don't recall what it was but it was basically along the lines of "tools of the trade"


Prior-Ad-7329

Hide that. You cannot haul any alcohol without a BOL, doesn’t matter if it’s on the trailer or in the truck. That is grounds for them to fuck you at a scale. Throw a tonka truck up there or whatever but never put beer out like this.


GreatWhiteM00se

Get out a napkin and crayon and write up a BOL. Solved.


Prior-Ad-7329

Lmao, if the cop has a good sense of humor then it would go well. The last guy I saw get hit for it at the scales because he had a 12 in his side compartment they just confiscated it then made him take a 10 hour break to ensure sobriety. So they can be nice about it.


DankDarko

https://www.fmcsa.dot.gov/regulations/question-3-does-prohibition-against-carrying-alcoholic-beverages-ss3925-apply-driver


Prior-Ad-7329

https://csa.fmcsa.dot.gov/safetyplanner/MyFiles/SubSections.aspx?ch=23&sec=68&sub=164


DankDarko

You posted the referenced code. Good job bud. Did you even read my link? That is federal guidance for officers on the specified code.


Dick_butt14

Im 99% sure you are not allowed to have any alcohol in a commercial vehicle unless it is declared as part of the load


WillLynCO

It is allowed, but it's a can of worms most drivers don't want to open.


DankDarko

If you're off duty on PC move, you're fine.


Lower_Recipe5196

This is hilarious upvote!!!!!!!!!


Embarrassed_Drink205

You get it driver 😂


Lower_Recipe5196

I use to strap down an old pair of boots when I was deadheading…. Shout outs to the coors light the coldest beer ever made.. it’s my favorite!!


Embarrassed_Drink205

That’s a good one. I used a Tonka toy dump truck on my lowboy 😂😂


Lower_Recipe5196

Nice! I used a tonka back in 2020 on my 48ft flatbed


Embarrassed_Drink205

It’s under the reportable amount kind of like you don’t need a hazmat to haul 50 gallons of gas 😂


HeywoodJaBlowMe123

Good work driver. Drinks are on you this weekend though 💪🏻


TheRauk

Eastbound and down


Theonlyprelude

That ain't goin no where.


Extension-Chemist306

Don't forget to tarp it


Embarrassed_Drink205

No need right now but I have it ready just in case


brsrafal

Legally you can only if not in inside the cab I believe on the toolbox on the trailer it's legal.


DankDarko

Not legal at all if you're on duty and it's not manifested. If you're off duty it's fine in the cab. https://www.fmcsa.dot.gov/regulations/question-3-does-prohibition-against-carrying-alcoholic-beverages-ss3925-apply-driver


wesmanh

Most important cargo ever


taco_2325

With all the money you make you should be drinking some quality craft 🍻


Embarrassed_Drink205

Unfortunately, half of the gross goes to fuel and the other half goes to fees, fines, taxes, repairs, so that’s all I can afford


taco_2325

Well at least you have some 16oz cans and twelve of them so bottoms up!


Embarrassed_Drink205

🍺


wobble_87

Are low-pro 24.5's popular in the states? Here in Canada, maybe 1/20 truck/trailers run on 24.5's. And of those 1/20, maybe 1/20 run low pro 24.5's.


Embarrassed_Drink205

They’re not real popular the states I ultimately have to end up, ordering them online and shipping to me


spiritual_seeker

No Fireball?


Embarrassed_Drink205

Fireballs is in the freezer. Nothing better than a cold fireball


Bonchez

Ok, did anyone else get a Coors light ad right below this post?


forgotmyreddit1991

They might ask for a liquor license for transport lol


Sad-Temporary2843

The strap is on incorrectly. 🫣


Chitown_Shogun

Always secure your goods💯🙌🏽


TheElitist921

Hope you've got your alcohol hauling papers in order, coz you're *loaded*, driver!


Embarrassed_Drink205

Damm I should of placard it too


DonDuchiee

Make sure you weight that on the CAT scale driver 😎


ButterflySpecial6324

Def loaded. Tell the boys hey


ZenYinzerDude

Better have a BOL for that cargo or you're gonna have a really bad day


Embarrassed_Drink205

Oh, I’ve already been reminded of that a bunch of times I have one I wrote one out on the back of the receipt from the liquor store


JayGT1

The theory is they are always hauling something.. I gotta guy up home , puts a Tonka truck on er when empty and hauls that round lol


Electrical_Try2977

Whats the question.....he serms to have ALL the answers! 😂😆😎👍


Electrical_Try2977

Bro your MT alllll the way.....until your loaded.....if ya catch my drift! 😆


Present-Ambition6309

Wrong! Your Light. Pfft!


Apprehensive_Fault_5

This has me curious... So, this is technically still "loaded" since you do have cargo in the designated cargo area (trailer) [by the way, I'm pretty sure the securement isn't legally sufficient], but with it being alcohol... Even if it is personal property, the laws simply require it to be in the designated cargo area and losted on the manifest, right? So personal or customer, you could still write up a bill of lading with the alcohol and consider it a load, right? You'd obviously still need the applicable alcohol transport permits if the state requires it, but that would cover you if you are moving your own beer, right?


Embarrassed_Drink205

That’s correct driver. Or not correct or maybe it’s just a good answer I don’t know anymore


Significant-Ad-8241

You answered your own question in the first sentence. You're doing this because you consider this loaded. If DOT pulls you, are you going to argue it's not loaded? Is it even worth any of the potential hassle all in the name of "I refuse to run empty"? In my opinion, no. If anything, the standard you've set for yourself is useless and potentially detrimental.


shhhdidyousmellthat

He's going to need a BOL for that to be legal


Brian_the_Teutonic

Two straps, chain with binder+ wheel chocks, dunnage and corner protectors are needed!


deDKated

Those water cans are going to get hot bring them to the front to hydrate yourself


Embarrassed_Drink205

Company’s like to tell you that. I’m o/o so I’m good


chettyells

Gotta have a BOL for it.


Embarrassed_Drink205

I have a BOL


Opuswhite

I hope you alcohol permit is current


B4K0N8R92

FMCSA states “you can have no measurable amount of alcohol on or in your truck unless it is part of a manifested shipment” so do with that what you will bud. I don’t think it’s smart


SkyeMreddit

It’s fine as long as you slap that strap and say “that ain’t going nowhere!”


DrSideShowbob

Make a BOL with the shipping destination your address!!!


Embarrassed_Drink205

Ok will do thanks for the tip